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DrRog
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3 Aug 2015 10:38am
samsturdy said..

Thanks DrRog. The boat next to me has the blocks on the mast and the owner says he has to ease the lazy jacks so that
the mainsail will form its proper shape. A boat a little further away has his blocks out on the spreader and with the extra width
created doesn't need to do that, so I'm seriously considering putting my blocks on the spreader, but hey.....any info is
better than none.


Yes, I looked at this yesterday actually. There was a very slight line on the main where one line was. I'm guessing it may have impacted it by a few mm only. I guessed it wouldn't have much effect. Better to go out on the spreaders (about a third?) it seems.
samsturdy
samsturdy
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3 Aug 2015 11:08am

Yes I agree, about one third out. Your stack pack pics are excellent info, thanks for posting them.
Jolene
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3 Aug 2015 9:23am
samsturdy said..

Thanks DrRog. The boat next to me has the blocks on the mast and the owner says he has to ease the lazy jacks so that
the mainsail will form its proper shape. A boat a little further away has his blocks out on the spreader and with the extra width
created doesn't need to do that, so I'm seriously considering putting my blocks on the spreader, but hey.....any info is
better than none.


Hey Sam,
He may of been talking about easing the lazy jacks so they are not holding the boom up like a topping lift. If the boom is held up it would be near impossible to get the correct mainsail shape.
samsturdy
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3 Aug 2015 12:35pm


OK Jolene, I understand. I'll have a chat next time I see him. Although it will be interesting to hear
what other forum users say.
HG02
HG02
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3 Aug 2015 1:30pm
samsturdy said...


OK Jolene, I understand. I'll have a chat next time I see him. Although it will be interesting to hear
what other forum users say.


Mine from memory are at least half way out on both mast spreaders sam
Ill dig out a old photo if i can
Tonight
samsturdy
samsturdy
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3 Aug 2015 3:58pm


Thanks HG that's great. It seems the local boats are 50/50 mast or spreader. I can really see the sense in
spreader mounted blocks if mast mounted blocks are going to interfere with the mainsail. It seems DrRog
would be a little happier if his blocks had been mounted a little further out on his spreaders, so I might as
well get it right from the start.
Glad to see Driftwood coming along so nicely HG.
Just been reading Keensailers idea of wanting a maintenance/financial free boat...........as if.
Ramona
Ramona
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3 Aug 2015 7:03pm
samsturdy said..


Thanks HG that's great. It seems the local boats are 50/50 mast or spreader. I can really see the sense in
spreader mounted blocks if mast mounted blocks are going to interfere with the mainsail. It seems DrRog
would be a little happier if his blocks had been mounted a little further out on his spreaders, so I might as
well get it right from the start.
Glad to see Driftwood coming along so nicely HG.
Just been reading Keensailers idea of wanting a maintenance/financial free boat...........as if.


This is a short video I made a few weeks ago when we were discussing Lazy jacks. While sailing the lazy jacks and topping lift is eased off. You will notice the SS thimbles don't actually touch the sail. Ignore the flapping leech on the headsail, the leech line had come loose and I sorted it later in the day.

samsturdy
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3 Aug 2015 7:30pm


Thanks Ramona, just the job. I noted that your blocks are about a third of the way along your spreader as DrRog and I had
discussed. That reinforces my decision to do the same. Thanks mate.
McNaughtical
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4 Aug 2015 3:09pm
HG02 said...
McNaughtical said..
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I would love to take mine back to this in side. The window I have out is the one in the picture here behind the heater and above the cupboard in the corner.









I then coated the marine ply with thinned epoxy a couple of times

This is what I did Mc Nautical and epoxy glued the marine ply to the fiberglass using Bote cote E glue its a thicker epoxy two part about thick as tooth paste



I then added more bote coat e glue to the inside cut and ground and sanded it out so it matched the port light frame and slide in without force. I used sikaflex but now Id probably use Fix it instead or Dow corning 4200 ( i think its called)I think its called to seal the port lights to the ply wood frames

In your case Id make the frames with just the inside cut out for the port lights and leave the outer part of the ply wood rectangular to take up what you had broken . on your inside panel trim the out side so it fits into what you have cut out so later you can fill in and sand back to it blends into the rest of your old panel.
What I also did was make the cut out larger than the port light needed and filled this in with bote cote e glue and sanded that back till the port light frame could slide in. ( my idea of doing this was so the plywood have far less chance of any rot in ten years time
Also you would not need thick plywood like I used just the same thickness as the ply that exist from the original damaged plywood you have

So you would cut the inner damaged ply out make a new piece to fit in what you have cut out and then trace the port light cut out
Paint the new ply wood with thinned epoxy and then glue it to the existing outer skin of your boat and glass matt it in place sealing the internal ply
Some one else might have a better Idea
If Bretts out there hes good for some ideas and knows his stuff




Ok H G.....
simplicity
simplicity
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5 Aug 2015 4:13pm
Before:

After:



The shipwright has been busy. Rotten timberwork replaced, frame for hatch rebuilt, deck ready to go back on.

McNaughtical
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5 Aug 2015 6:35pm












Feeling a bit proud of myself...
Couldn't have got this far without your encouragement. .HG especially. ..thank you for the simple steps
andy59
andy59
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5 Aug 2015 9:25pm
McNaughtical said..












Feeling a bit proud of myself...
Couldn't have got this far without your encouragement. .HG especially. ..thank you for the simple steps


Wow!!!! Thats awesome Mcnaughtical.
SandS
SandS
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5 Aug 2015 9:48pm

i,m very impressed mcnaught !!! well done ... its coming along nice .... keep going !!!!
HG02
HG02
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5 Aug 2015 10:30pm
keep going Mc Nautical your doing well
samsturdy
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6 Aug 2015 10:52am


Absolutely McN, well done.
McNaughtical
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6 Aug 2015 2:36pm
Thanks guys
shaggybaxter
shaggybaxter
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6 Aug 2015 6:51pm
Wow McNaughtical. That my good lady, is really good.
I am impressed, we'll have to start calling you Jessica Watson soon, you're getting all self-sufficient on us!
Really nice work mate, well done.

shaggybaxter
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6 Aug 2015 6:57pm
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simplicity said..
Before:

After:



The shipwright has been busy. Rotten timberwork replaced, frame for hatch rebuilt, deck ready to go back on.



Hi Simplicity,
Nice! If I may ask, how long did it take your shipwright between the two photos?
(Please tell me it something like 4 weeks, or I'm going to feel terrible.)
I love seeing new timber work, but I seem to take forever to do even the simplest job.
It must feel good seeing it now
SB
HG02
HG02
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6 Aug 2015 8:43pm
Remember Mc Nautical
plys cheap so if you stuff a cut out just make an other till your happy and you get to use the other piece some where else for some thing else or project
Some time I scab some old packing ply from work and make that the template once its perfected and tracy it out on marine ply

Good work young lady
simplicity
simplicity
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7 Aug 2015 12:23pm
Shaggybaxter said..
















The shipwright has been busy. Rotten timberwork replaced, frame for hatch rebuilt, deck ready to go back on.











Hi Simplicity,
Nice! If I may ask, how long did it take your shipwright between the two photos?
(Please tell me it something like 4 weeks, or I'm going to feel terrible.)
I love seeing new timber work, but I seem to take forever to do even the simplest job.
It must feel good seeing it now
SB



SB, yes I've enjoyed watching this work progress, and learned a lot along the way. For example, the scarfing for the deck joint is 10:1. There's also been work in the framing down to and across the floor, all in solid timber. Yesterday the first layer of deck was glued in place, the second section is being laminated over the top this morning. It's being laminted in two layers to accommodate the camber across the cabin top. He's into the third week now, nearly finished. I'll try to post some more photos.
HG02
HG02
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7 Aug 2015 6:40pm
My masts will be dropped off later tonight and my Muir anchor winch arrive also , so Ive a very busy next few months to deal with . I like it not not has to be done .

McNaughtical
McNaughtical
NSW
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7 Aug 2015 7:43pm
Awww...you guys are so encouraging
Meg1122
Meg1122
QLD
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7 Aug 2015 8:11pm
Exciting times ahead HG :) and good work McNautical, love seeing you guys getting your boats together to go SAILING!!!!! (Don't loose sight of that in the getting together, this is just the hard yards to reap the rewards :) ).
Lazzz
Lazzz
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7 Aug 2015 9:29pm
Spent the past 3 days sanding back my mast to bare metal, one more day to go :(








cisco
cisco
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7 Aug 2015 10:16pm

She a big stick Larry. Are you going to paint it or leave bare?

If you are going to paint it, one of the best ally etch primers is International (formerly Epiglass) PA 10. You can overcoat it with just about anything.
HG02
HG02
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7 Aug 2015 11:15pm
Lazzarae said..
Spent the past 3 days sanding back my mast to bare metal, one more day to go :(









Hi Lazzarae

What did you use was far as sanding goes . Im about to start my masts mines old weathered anodize
DrRog
DrRog
NSW
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8 Aug 2015 12:01am
I did my mast a while ago - it's on page 23 of this thread (and here: http://www.adventuresinbob.com/the-big-re-rig-part-2/) . I just wonder if you should be removing the winches and fittings, Lazz? If there's corrosion under those you might be better off getting all that gone while you've got the mast down.

HG, I used a belt sander mostly and an angle grinder with a blue paint remover disc on it for any thicker stuff (eg. the 2-pac I painted on my boom before I decided not to paint the mast ). Best results were doing long, even strokes along the line of the mast. Can't recall the paper grade.
HG02
HG02
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8 Aug 2015 12:22am
Anodized masts i can remember reading to remove the aanodized also removes aluminium
As the anosizing is etched into the aluminium
To remove it you are also making your masts thiner
That worries me
DAMA
DAMA
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8 Aug 2015 12:35am
Did anyone find a coin under their mast once removed?
HG02
HG02
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8 Aug 2015 7:35am
DAMA said..
Did anyone find a coin under their mast once removed?



Dama the only thing Ive found under where the masts were is a lot of work and even above the mast more work
a doubloon would have been real nice
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