Spot on Tobes

And once again slave displays his ignorance for all to see.

Peter Lynn Snr invented the arc style kite to be used exclusively on the water.
It was in the very early days, when inflatos were absolute ****e, and I guess Peter correctly assumed he could do better.

But thats not quite right either. Peter invented a kite that would auto zenith so he could launch and then fly the kite himself, without input while he lifted and carried his kite trimaran or cat down to the water. Another benefit was that the kite would fly above him if he crashed the boat or needed to make adjustements to the boat once on the water. He is an absolute master at sailing those boats and flying his kites awesome to see!
I think he has moved onto a monohull design now.

So we see the ignoramus, slaveknob, is completely wrong again.

Whats the name of the old inflato.

Nah won't name it because he will be proven wrong again.

And I am off to hawaii tonight for 2 weeks to spend gazillions and suffer in the strong wind and warm weather.

Cya and

Aloha

Steve

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Originally posted by poor relative

Thank f**k for that.
Have a good trip stay away from computers.

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Jeez Rellie.....that avatar pic is a deadset shocker

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Originally posted by poor relative

She's lovely and looking at you Mr Bonk.....

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I don't know which 'quality' impresses me more....the mono-brow or the Sydney Harbour sized overbite

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Originally posted by Kitepower Australia

Spot on Tobes

And once again slave displays his ignorance for all to see.

Peter Lynn Snr invented the arc style kite to be used exclusively on the water.
It was in the very early days, when inflatos were absolute ****e, and I guess Peter correctly assumed he could do better.

But thats not quite right either. Peter invented a kite that would auto zenith so he could launch and then fly the kite himself, without input while he lifted and carried his kite trimaran or cat down to the water. Another benefit was that the kite would fly above him if he crashed the boat or needed to make adjustements to the boat once on the water. He is an absolute master at sailing those boats and flying his kites awesome to see!
I think he has moved onto a monohull design now.

So we see the ignoramus, slaveknob, is completely wrong again.

Whats the name of the old inflato.

Nah won't name it because he will be proven wrong again.

And I am off to hawaii tonight for 2 weeks to spend gazillions and suffer in the strong wind and warm weather.

Cya and

Aloha

Steve

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lol.
So there you have it in a nutshell, MrBonk.
Your question has been answered by a nut.
Kitepower has revealed the true purpose for auto-zen.

And just in case we have all forgotten what the question was after 9 long pages....
'PL kites auto-zenith' ?
Well...I believe it's a question.
It ends with a question-mark so it must be.
Anyway, here's the answer.
(I'm trying not to laugh).

The auto-zenith was invented by Peter Lynn so he could fly his kite...
while at the same time carry a kite-trimaran down to the water.
lol.
Hey, that's funny.

I mean,
if I was going to do a spot of kitetrimaraning,
I'd probably carry the boat down to the waters edge first...
and then launch and fly the kite.

I can just picture Peter struggling with the awkward vessel,
dragging the three hulls thru the soft sand towards the water,
and all the time the kite is hovering above him,
like an overbearing flying-foreman supervising the labour.

And while the sweat trickles down the front of his wetsuit from all the heavy work,
he's probably thinking that maybe something lighter would go better with kiting.
Maybe....maybe a surfboard would go better with kiting.
YES...a board.
Let's call it a kiteboard.

Hi,

I just want to remind everybody that Peter Lynn, as much as few of us don't like his kites, was a pioneer in what today is the modern kitesurfing.
He put on the line his time and money trying a number of ideas, some of them successful, some of them bizarre (like the tri-catamaran pulled by kites), some just ...
Do not forget the great idea of "seakityes" (like the Peel) which you cast in the water, let them go downwind and they take off with just a little bit of air inside, and as they climb, the cells are filling with air. I had one of those, I was launching in the water and in less than 30 seconds the kite was up ready to go, with sheer power and lots of de-powering.
However, he is very successful in Europe, and his kites are very sought, some of te “pro’s” kiters are using his "dunas" very successful.
We have to admit, without Peter and his theories and kites, we would not have today the variety of kites we can choose from.
If we like it or not, he's work left a deep mark in what kitesurfing is today.
And this is why, I appreciate him very much.

Love my dunas

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Originally posted by silviu

Hi,

I just want to remind everybody that Peter Lynn, as much as few of us don't like his kites, was a pioneer in what today is the modern kitesurfing.
He put on the line his time and money trying a number of ideas, some of them successful, some of them bizarre (like the tri-catamaran pulled by kites), some just ...
Do not forget the great idea of "seakityes" (like the Peel) which you cast in the water, let them go downwind and they take off with just a little bit of air inside, and as they climb, the cells are filling with air. I had one of those, I was launching in the water and in less than 30 seconds the kite was up ready to go, with sheer power and lots of de-powering.
However, he is very successful in Europe, and his kites are very sought, some of te “pro’s” kiters are using his "dunas" very successful.We have to admit, without Peter and his theories and kites, we would not have today the variety of kites we can choose from.
If we like it or not, he's work left a deep mark in what kitesurfing is today.
And this is why, I appreciate him very much.

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Post a vid..

Actually, my original question was "How is it achieved?", not "Why was it invented?".

Mr Bonk,
After nine pages I agree with you, your initial question was not answered.
I don't want to disappoint you but, if I remember well, Peter Lynn by himself confessed that the first ARC's showed this fantastic property, by chance.
He tried to explain it as a result of the perfect balance of the kites, as they were the first kites manufactured using the CAD-CAM technology as well as some other aerodynamic improvements to the shape of the skins of the kite.
All these qualities were then improved in the subsequent Guerrilla. Bomba, Venom and Vortex.
So, like always in life, big discoveries are made "by mistake": you look to improve a little bit some qualities in a specific area and actually you get a huge, unexpected improvement in another area.
Such is life.

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Originally posted by windpig

Why don't you fly Peter Lynn kites.As the kite in your avatar looks like a inflatable ?

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I used for 5 years Peter Lynn kites.
I had three ARC's: 640, 810 and 1120.
Due to some reasons, last year, I decided to "convert" to BOW kites.
I still miss my ARC's

Good question

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Originally posted by poor relative

So why did you stop using Arcs?

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Originally posted by silviu

1. They were too old
2. Bows came along with almost same performance (except auto-zenith) and I got a good deal.
3. Needed some change
4. Some other reasons I dont want to talk about here.

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he actually found one of his PL's cheating on him with a box kite.

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Originally posted by windpig

Why don't you fly Peter Lynn kites.As the kite in your avatar looks like a inflatable ?

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I used for 5 years Peter Lynn kites.
I had three ARC's: 640, 810 and 1120.
Due to some reasons, last year, I decided to "convert" to BOW kites.
I still miss my ARC's

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Silviu,
I remember reading on the forum of your rescue with a downed kite awhile back.
Did that incident involve a doona ?
Is that why you converted to inflatos ?

It was actually the first or second time I was out with my brand new 16m Crossbow!!!!
The reasons I gave up the PL kites was nothing to do with the performance or quality of the kites, more to the level of service/support in Melbourne area.
End of story

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Originally posted by Spacemonkey!

Ahh now I think I get it, Silviu was busy kiting in the middle of the ocean as he does (who knows why), accidentally came unhooked, crashed his kite. It was a doona, couln't get it up in time, got stranded. Swapped to inflato's so he could keep kiting like a responsible guy 6km from shore without having to worry about sinkage...

Correct?

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Young fellow,

I just want to tell you first that I really appreciate most of your contributions, with little exceptions when they are too rude to my taste. But this is a personal matter.
Getting to the point of your last post, what do you know about me and my experience?
What do you know about Melbourne kiting? How do you know that I am kiting in the middle of the ocean? According with you I must be the most unsafe kite surfer, going out in the ocean 10 - 16 km?
Sorry young man, have you heard about Port Phillip Bay?
If you want to know about me: I started making and playing kites many, many moons ago when I was a little child. Kite making and playing was a passion and obsession for me all this years, up to the point I took kitesurfing as a dare.
My choice in kitesurfing is to cruise; I cannot afford to jump due to the landings, as my back will not appreciate such a severe treatment.
As such, I love cruising and enjoying the beauty of Port Phillip Bay, and when I go, I go. However I always have a PFD, a waterproof mobile phone and my GPS (some may say I am like Inspector Gadget, so what, it is my personal safety first) and always I am ready for a long swim, if shove will come (I always have my wetsuit or dry suit on me, summer or winter). And yes, I use a helmet and a board leash.
Very often I have my helmet camera with me, and I used to share my videos on Kitebeach website (unfortunately the old gallery was wiped off in the change).
Regarding the accidents, they come, unfortunately, when you expect them the least, however, I always stud up and let everybody know, to learn from my mistakes, and I accepted that I was at fault.
So, what's your problem young man?
Can't you just enjoy the kitesurfing?
I am sure you are pretty good in jumping and all this new "wake" style, which I find it very attractive and spectacular, and I am sure I would enjoy seeing you guys, when I will have the opportunity to come to visit again WA.
So, in the mean time if you have a problem with me, PM me and I will answer to you personally.

Cheers

Didn't mean to offend, wasn't my aim at all. Was just having stab in the dark you didn't really explain why you stopped flying them so I guessed. I was off the mark obviously. Still PL might be good kites but I still can't see them being compatible with freestlye.