Mrgob said...
Those who have only ever been short board high octane windsurfers will eventually become bored after long enough, and move on to other sports. Seen it happen to far too many others!

Its being 20+ yrs on a short board.....when am i supose to get bored????

[b]barn said...

Windsurfer falling off the plane is a Windsurfer that has stopped working..

Everybody gets annoyed when their windsurfer stops working..

Longboarding was once....

exzackry...a big windsurfer will stay on the plane longer than a small windsurfer so the answer is a big windsurfer is better than a small windsurfer

SWS, 2 to 3 day sea journeys around islands, camping as you go, that kind of thing. It's a different mindset to normal windsurfing. The journey is the satisfaction, not the speed.

Longboarding hasn't 'died in the ass,' whatever that might mean. Nor is longboarding unchanged. (Modern rigs make a difference.) My Kona 1 typically planes in the mid 20 m.p.h. range when lit up, yet is a satisfying all rounder in less than planing conditions. Plenty of others must agree since it sells well enough.

As for getting bored, many found so when they bought into the short board image over function con for their non high wind sailing locations. Endlessly sitting in the car park talking, and waiting for something to happen p****d them right off! Image didn't match reality, so they left for more accessible sports!

Let's look at surfing as an example of what happens over time. Started with longboards then the boards got shorter and shorter they got more and more rocker. You couldn't find a longboard anywhere, you also couldn't even get a blank to make a longboard. Then the sport became more and more elitist. If you weren't on the latest tiny banana board you were a kook. Then one day everyone grew up, longboards came back cause they actually work for a majority of people. Look at your local beach you will see short boards longboards and a variety of hybrids. Participation is the key more people means more $s means more choice. Economics 101 people. I predict that over time we will see more people rocking around lakes on SUPs with and without sails. This summer there will be some light wind wave sailing happening which is good for the sport. There will always be elitist Rosetta around that will tell you that unless your on the shortest, fattest, roundest, latest shape your a tool, but as long as your doing it and you love what your doing the tool is them.

gregc said...

Let's look at surfing as an example of what happens over time. Started with longboards then the boards got shorter and shorter they got more and more rocker. You couldn't find a longboard anywhere, you also couldn't even get a blank to make a longboard. Then the sport became more and more elitist. If you weren't on the latest tiny banana board you were a kook. Then one day everyone grew up, longboards came back cause they actually work for a majority of people. Look at your local beach you will see short boards longboards and a variety of hybrids. Participation is the key more people means more $s means more choice. Economics 101 people. I predict that over time we will see more people rocking around lakes on SUPs with and without sails. This summer there will be some light wind wave sailing happening which is good for the sport. There will always be elitist Rosetta around that will tell you that unless your on the shortest, fattest, roundest, latest shape your a tool, but as long as your doing it and you love what your doing the tool is them.

Windsurfing has already gone through this. Compare a short board from the 80s or 90s to one of today. They are completely different in shape. The modern shaped boards do get on, and stay on the plane much more easily than the older thinner type of board. When I first rode a modern shaped board, a Tabou Rocket 140, I was amazed at how easily it planed and comfortable it was on the plane.

Of course short boards are not the answer for all windsurfers. Sometimes its enough to cruise around on a board designed for non planing conditions.

Hopefully the SUP craze will reinvigorate windsurfing. Suppers need to know that its much more fun to sail than to paddle.

Quote; (With regard to sea cruising on a long board.)

' Could do that in a dinghy.'

And short board blasting?

Could do that on a jet ski!!! (And faster, and in less wind.)

There's none so blind as those who cannot see!

Also, in what way is a large highly rockered compromise poor planing S.U.P. board superior to any designed for the job racing longboard? If proper longboards supposedly couldn't hold people in our sport, are are thought to have disappeared up their own backsides, how is an inferior sailing design supposed to do the trick?

If this topic gets to 13 pages, then bad luck will befall all those who have posted (including me).

Your mast will snap 1 kilometre from the beach for no apparent reason.

Your boom will collapse on the side that you need to get back to the beach with.

Your fin will drop out of its slot.

Be warned - the end (of this topic) is nigh!

Interesting

Robbie Naish does everything
Dave Kalama does everything
Mike Waltze does everything
Pete cabrinha does everything

Barn does one thing

A lesson in that for all of us

gregc said...

Interesting

Robbie Naish does everything
Dave Kalama does everything
Mike Waltze does everything
Pete cabrinha does everything

Barn does one thing

A lesson in that for all of us

Barney we should move to Hawaii like those 4 guys

KA360 said...

gregc said...

Interesting

Robbie Naish does everything
Dave Kalama does everything
Mike Waltze does everything
Pete cabrinha does everything

Barn does one thing

A lesson in that for all of us

Barney we should move to Hawaii like those 4 guys

lol, Mike Waltze? what is this the Aloha Classic II.. I would do everything also if I lived in Maui... Kinda what I have been saying??

How come Richie Myers and Doug Hunt didn't get a mention??

It would seem to me that there are a heap of actual watermen in oz unfortunately it would not seem that barn is one of them.

Once again barn trumpets that everyone that disagrees with him is a cock. Truth is that barn is a poor little man that does not actually do anything other than sail when it's macking. Pity that's only once a month or less

^^^ wtf? I think someone is a little overtired and needs a nap?

Dr J = the English lifestyle in oz. Can't surf don't want to lol. Almost Barn but not as flexible lol

www.peconicpuffin.com/.a/6a00d8341c890753ef0148c7bd6a3b970c-500wi


Hang on.....Dr J or Dr G ????

gregc said...


Ive got the ****s with all the people that pay out on what they can't or won't do. I'm tired of the bull**** that goes on. I'm sick to death of the ****ing bull**** that people who won't/can't do anything but one thing go on with to save their poor little egos.

Epic, I read this in John McEnroes voice..lol