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IFocus
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20 Aug 2021 6:49am
warwickl said..

Razzonater said..
Thank you sea breeze

I waited 12-14 weeks after registering and today at lunch they jammed that sweet sweet Pfizer into my body.
After the jab I got to sit in a chair for 15 minutes and an orange juice

see how I pull up tomorrow but it seems the 5G network in my house is working better already.

Really wished they mixed a bit of lsd in with the Pfizer at least that would of made the waiting room a bit more entertaining

On a serious note, all those who gave personal reports in this thread I appreciate it,

Will report in on second jab and any affects positive or negative from this one



No orange juice with AZ so guess its required as part of the early boost with Pfizer.


Had my 2nd AZ yesterday took Panadol before no side effects arm feels OK looking forward to a surf today.

No orange juice or pops to suck on while waiting the 15mins... fu(king annoying
FormulaNova
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20 Aug 2021 7:01am
IFocus said..
warwickl said..

Razzonater said..
Thank you sea breeze

I waited 12-14 weeks after registering and today at lunch they jammed that sweet sweet Pfizer into my body.
After the jab I got to sit in a chair for 15 minutes and an orange juice

see how I pull up tomorrow but it seems the 5G network in my house is working better already.

Really wished they mixed a bit of lsd in with the Pfizer at least that would of made the waiting room a bit more entertaining

On a serious note, all those who gave personal reports in this thread I appreciate it,

Will report in on second jab and any affects positive or negative from this one



No orange juice with AZ so guess its required as part of the early boost with Pfizer.


Had my 2nd AZ yesterday took Panadol before no side effects arm feels OK looking forward to a surf today.

No orange juice or pops to suck on while waiting the 15mins... fu(king annoying


The orange juice was just a 5G booster for those in low signal areas, so you should be okay. As more and more people get the shot coverage gets better and better.
psychomub
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FormulaNova
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20 Aug 2021 7:30am


Really? Do you not watch these things before you post them?
japie
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20 Aug 2021 9:36am
Pugwash said..

japie said..





Smug man waiting in line for 56th booster thinks back to the 17th wave when the anti-lockdown, anti-vaccine protesters were last at the vaccination centre. Sure, he'd noticed them getting fewer and fewer since the 10th wave, but none at all? Where did they go?


www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56005488?utm_source=seabreeze.com.au
japie
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20 Aug 2021 9:58am
lotofwind said..

If they wanted people to believe their call for mass protest they shouldnt have tried to prove their claims using Peter A. McCullough who has had all his covid 19 theories completely proven false and have been well proven to have actually increased the spread of covid in Brazil based on his opinion.



Really?

Tell me something. Why would an eminent physician disseminate false medical information?

Do you think perhaps he'd had an attack of Lotifwinditis and his brain had stopped functioning?

The pharmaceutical industry has unlimited funds available. They use a portion of this to malign physicians and medicines that stand to affect their profit margins.

Here is an example for you. The study published in the Lancet, (the medical publication which used to be considered the pinnacle of medical journalism), published the article which sunk hydroxychloroquin based on a trial which was fraudulent. The article was subsequently retracted but not until after the damage had been done.

Google the pharmaceutical fines issued. If you think they've suddenly developed a conscience you're even more stupid than I originally thought.

And if you think I'm likely to tell you what my movements are you're equally delusional.

Bro

ahrp.org/the-lancet-published-a-fraudulent-study-editor-calls-it-department-of-error/
airsail
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20 Aug 2021 10:04am
japie said..

Pugwash said..


japie said..






Smug man waiting in line for 56th booster thinks back to the 17th wave when the anti-lockdown, anti-vaccine protesters were last at the vaccination centre. Sure, he'd noticed them getting fewer and fewer since the 10th wave, but none at all? Where did they go?



www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56005488?utm_source=seabreeze.com.au


See, vaccination works, 117 and going strong
lotofwind
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20 Aug 2021 10:44am
Another scary day in Gov. control lockdown,
I am worried though, I just rode down the beach and as you can see, no swell. But there was swell here yesterday? Is it the gov. controlling Huey to stop the waves so we stay at home ??

All jokes aside, its a magic day out side today, get out there, go for a ride, walk, swim etc to get some exercise and make the most of this perfect day.
Life is good.
D3
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20 Aug 2021 8:47am
a disease that is killing a minuscule percentage of elderly and sick people


Hey Japie, I dunno, I thought the Australian thing to do would be to protect our most vulnerable population.

Early on we had the option to do it voluntarily, but we're a pretty selfish nation these days.

And the way you make that statement really makes it sound like you don't care about anyone who is old and/or sick.

You saying the current measures are worse than the disease, well I suppose we'll find out now that's poised to get into our remote indigenous population.

But, you know the suicide rate in NSW dropped last year, first time in years.
Pugwash
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20 Aug 2021 9:00am
japie said..

Pugwash said..


japie said..






Smug man waiting in line for 56th booster thinks back to the 17th wave when the anti-lockdown, anti-vaccine protesters were last at the vaccination centre. Sure, he'd noticed them getting fewer and fewer since the 10th wave, but none at all? Where did they go?



www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56005488?utm_source=seabreeze.com.au


I don't know about you, but I always click web links with no explanation of what they are. Always.

BTW, care to share your thoughts on what is on the other side of that link?
Macroscien
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20 Aug 2021 12:13pm
Pugwash said..


japie said..



Pugwash said..




japie said..








Smug man waiting in line for 56th booster thinks back to the 17th wave when the anti-lockdown, anti-vaccine protesters were last at the vaccination centre. Sure, he'd noticed them getting fewer and fewer since the 10th wave, but none at all? Where did they go?





www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56005488?utm_source=seabreeze.com.au




I don't know about you, but I always click web links with no explanation of what they are. Always.

BTW, care to share your thoughts on what is on the other side of that link?



Probably not much.Just a message that you just inherited 100 mln dollars from Nigerian King.Now you could be missing on this all.Go back, click twice to double your fortune now!
Pugwash
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20 Aug 2021 10:43am
Macroscien said..


Pugwash said..




japie said..





Pugwash said..






japie said..










Smug man waiting in line for 56th booster thinks back to the 17th wave when the anti-lockdown, anti-vaccine protesters were last at the vaccination centre. Sure, he'd noticed them getting fewer and fewer since the 10th wave, but none at all? Where did they go?







www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56005488?utm_source=seabreeze.com.au






I don't know about you, but I always click web links with no explanation of what they are. Always.

BTW, care to share your thoughts on what is on the other side of that link?





Probably not much.Just a message that you just inherited 100 mln dollars from Nigerian King.Now you could be missing on this all.Go back, click twice to double your fortune now!




I'm in.

Pugwash
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20 Aug 2021 11:01am
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kiterboy
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FlySurfer
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Pugwash
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20 Aug 2021 12:56pm
kiterboy said..




OMG!! Covid vaccination turns you into Nicholas Cage???

C'mon... at least post something credible... like Covid vaccination turns you into Hugo Weaving --> Agent Smith
Harrow
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20 Aug 2021 3:31pm
Sydney 9pm curfew? Just brilliant. My local Coles is open until 10pm, so let's make the store more crowded now between 8pm and 9pm.
D3
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20 Aug 2021 2:18pm
Pugwash said..

kiterboy said..





OMG!! Covid vaccination turns you into Nicholas Cage???

C'mon... at least post something credible... like Covid vaccination turns you into Hugo Weaving --> Agent Smith


Actually there was a VAERS submission a few years back byva guy who claimed the flu shot massively increased his cellular mass, made him extremely irritable and affected the pigmentation of his skin.

Apparently, because they didn't remove it as a spurious report, he had to call them up and ask if they actually believed the flu shot turned him into the Hulk.
UncleBob
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20 Aug 2021 5:17pm

A little something to lighten the mood.
lotofwind
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20 Aug 2021 5:45pm
UncleBob said..

A little something to lighten the mood.





I think the Australian youtube clip makes more sense and scientific data than the American videos telling Australians to go and protest.
I mean if you cant trust Kevin Bloody Wilson or Murry the wiggle then who can you trust.
eppo
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20 Aug 2021 9:43pm
Harrow said..
Sydney 9pm curfew? Just brilliant. My local Coles is open until 10pm, so let's make the store more crowded now between 8pm and 9pm.


Well we all know covid is much more contagious after 9pm. So curfews as well hey. Keeping us safe lads, keeping us safe. Do the "right thing" now.
theDoctor
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21 Aug 2021 12:57am

this whole care about community garbage you jabbed idiots espouse...
you don't know the names of the families who've lived in your street for the last 10yrs.
reports from friends in Indonesia, vaccine trucks come into town, days later people start dying, old people but not sick. young people going into commas and seizures.
towns and villages running vaccine trucks of of town, throwing rocks at them. next week, tucks return under kompasis guard. days later, old people start dying again, young people get sick.
western Sydney is in curfew lock down, as much to isolate people from each other so news of adverse reactions don't spread, as to condition the demographic. people are dying in numbers, despite what lotofnoidea thinks he believes
Brent in Qld
Brent in Qld
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21 Aug 2021 5:00am
lotofwind said..

UncleBob said..

A little something to lighten the mood.






I think the Australian youtube clip makes more sense and scientific data than the American videos telling Australians to go and protest.
I mean if you cant trust Kevin Bloody Wilson or Murry the wiggle then who can you trust.


Speaking of trust & we reckon seppos want 'free the peeps to accelerate the spread' protests in AUS. This will justify moving in here via NZ before chynah makes its final push to dominate our real estate markets.

www. someone told my aunt they saw it on YouTube .com

Surely the communist states of NSW & Vic must be on the watchlist by now to receive some Guantanamo freedumbs from a few friendly occupying forces? After all, uncle sam needs to send his biggest industry somewhere after successfully freeing Afghanistan.

Anyway, go Eagles. F'n crap season....

Please ignore this post as it confuses the hypothetical junctures of the many pointless threads of philosophical insignificance that continue to dominate general dialogue. Have a nice weekend and remember to say something nice now & then. Thanks from your sponsors.
japie
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21 Aug 2021 8:55am
D3 said..

a disease that is killing a minuscule percentage of elderly and sick people



Hey Japie, I dunno, I thought the Australian thing to do would be to protect our most vulnerable population.

Early on we had the option to do it voluntarily, but we're a pretty selfish nation these days.

And the way you make that statement really makes it sound like you don't care about anyone who is old and/or sick.

You saying the current measures are worse than the disease, well I suppose we'll find out now that's poised to get into our remote indigenous population.

But, you know the suicide rate in NSW dropped last year, first time in years.


D3 the protection of the most vulnerable is critical in order to maintain our humanity. Absolutely agree with you and it wasn't meant to come across that way.

I mentioned a few posts back that I'd watched the testimony of a lady who had worked for the WHO a few years back with a team of health professionals developing a strategy for pandemic response.
Unfortunately I cannot find it.

But

She was justifiably upset that all of their work has been completely ignored to be replaced with the haphazard f^ckedupness we now have.

The strategy broadly entailed exactly the same thing that Scott Atlas was recommending in the Land of the Brave and the Free. (Capitals for your benefit Lotsoffart)!

Isolate and protect the vulnerable.

Namely (but not only) the elderly.

Now I don't know exactly what happened here in Australia but I do know this. The exact opposite was done in the UK and the US where thousands of hospitalised AND infected elderly were returned from hospitals to old age facilities.

This resulted in at least 10,000 deaths in the UK and some estimates go as far as 100,000.

By following WHO recommendations.

Not only was this tragic it was criminal and in many peoples estimation deliberate. The NHS has been mucking with End of Life Pathways for years and there's a stack of evidence that some institutions and doctors are going about it VERY enthusiastically.

What we are experiencing at the moment is more of the same only it's encompassing the whole of NSW.

I envy you your faith in our advisors but assure you it's goals are control and a drive for mass stabbing.
kiterboy
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21 Aug 2021 7:16am
japie said..
I envy you your faith in our advisors but assure you it's goals are control and a drive for mass stabbing.



Indeed...

childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/cdc-manipulated-data-create-pandemic-unvaxxed-narrative/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=bf51f1d7-a5e5-4c65-97da-c3e7b0ac1a25

'By using statistics from a time period when the U.S. as a whole was largely unvaccinated, the CDC is now claiming we're in a "pandemic of the unvaccinated," in an effort to demonize those who still have not agreed to receive this experimental gene modification injection.'

Here's what Canadian viral immunologist and vaccine researcher Dr. Byram Bridle told Ingraham about the claim that we're in a pandemic of the unvaxxed, and that the unvaccinated are hotbeds for dangerous variants:

"Absolutely, it's untrue to be calling this a pandemic of the unvaccinated. And it's certainly untrue . that the unvaccinated are somehow driving the emergence of the novel variants. This goes against every scientific principle that we understand.

"The reality is, the nature of the vaccines we are using right now, and the way we're rolling them out, are going to be applying selective pressure to this virus to promote the emergence of new variants. Again, this is based on sound principles.

"We have to look no further than . the emergence of antibiotic resistance .
The principle is this: If you have a biological entity that is prone to mutation - and the SARS-CoV-2, like all coronaviruses is prone to mutation - and you apply a narrowly focused selective pressure that is nonlethal, and you do this over a long period of time, this is the recipe for driving the emergence of novel variants.

"This is exactly what we're doing.
Our vaccines are focused on a single protein of the virus, so the virus only has to alter one protein, and the vaccines don't come close to providing sterilizing immunity.

"People who are vaccinated still get infected, it only seems particularly good at blunting the disease, and what that tells you therefore is that these vaccines in the vast majority of people are applying a nonlethal pressure, narrowly focused on one protein, and the vaccine rollout is occurring over a long period of time.
That's the recipe for driving variants."
japie
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21 Aug 2021 9:25am
kiterboy said..

japie said..
I envy you your faith in our advisors but assure you it's goals are control and a drive for mass stabbing.




Indeed...

childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/cdc-manipulated-data-create-pandemic-unvaxxed-narrative/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=bf51f1d7-a5e5-4c65-97da-c3e7b0ac1a25

'By using statistics from a time period when the U.S. as a whole was largely unvaccinated, the CDC is now claiming we're in a "pandemic of the unvaccinated," in an effort to demonize those who still have not agreed to receive this experimental gene modification injection.'

Here's what Canadian viral immunologist and vaccine researcher Dr. Byram Bridle told Ingraham about the claim that we're in a pandemic of the unvaxxed, and that the unvaccinated are hotbeds for dangerous variants:

"Absolutely, it's untrue to be calling this a pandemic of the unvaccinated. And it's certainly untrue . that the unvaccinated are somehow driving the emergence of the novel variants. This goes against every scientific principle that we understand.

"The reality is, the nature of the vaccines we are using right now, and the way we're rolling them out, are going to be applying selective pressure to this virus to promote the emergence of new variants. Again, this is based on sound principles.

"We have to look no further than . the emergence of antibiotic resistance .
The principle is this: If you have a biological entity that is prone to mutation - and the SARS-CoV-2, like all coronaviruses is prone to mutation - and you apply a narrowly focused selective pressure that is nonlethal, and you do this over a long period of time, this is the recipe for driving the emergence of novel variants.

"This is exactly what we're doing.
Our vaccines are focused on a single protein of the virus, so the virus only has to alter one protein, and the vaccines don't come close to providing sterilizing immunity.

"People who are vaccinated still get infected, it only seems particularly good at blunting the disease, and what that tells you therefore is that these vaccines in the vast majority of people are applying a nonlethal pressure, narrowly focused on one protein, and the vaccine rollout is occurring over a long period of time.
That's the recipe for driving variants."


Absolutely precisely.

Which is exactly why Geert Vanden Bossche never got ANY mainstream air time.
airsail
airsail
QLD
1600 posts
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21 Aug 2021 9:58am
kiterboy said..

japie said..
I envy you your faith in our advisors but assure you it's goals are control and a drive for mass stabbing.




Indeed...

childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/cdc-manipulated-data-create-pandemic-unvaxxed-narrative/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=bf51f1d7-a5e5-4c65-97da-c3e7b0ac1a25

'By using statistics from a time period when the U.S. as a whole was largely unvaccinated, the CDC is now claiming we're in a "pandemic of the unvaccinated," in an effort to demonize those who still have not agreed to receive this experimental gene modification injection.'

Here's what Canadian viral immunologist and vaccine researcher Dr. Byram Bridle told Ingraham about the claim that we're in a pandemic of the unvaxxed, and that the unvaccinated are hotbeds for dangerous variants:

"Absolutely, it's untrue to be calling this a pandemic of the unvaccinated. And it's certainly untrue . that the unvaccinated are somehow driving the emergence of the novel variants. This goes against every scientific principle that we understand.

"The reality is, the nature of the vaccines we are using right now, and the way we're rolling them out, are going to be applying selective pressure to this virus to promote the emergence of new variants. Again, this is based on sound principles.

"We have to look no further than . the emergence of antibiotic resistance .
The principle is this: If you have a biological entity that is prone to mutation - and the SARS-CoV-2, like all coronaviruses is prone to mutation - and you apply a narrowly focused selective pressure that is nonlethal, and you do this over a long period of time, this is the recipe for driving the emergence of novel variants.

"This is exactly what we're doing.
Our vaccines are focused on a single protein of the virus, so the virus only has to alter one protein, and the vaccines don't come close to providing sterilizing immunity.

"People who are vaccinated still get infected, it only seems particularly good at blunting the disease, and what that tells you therefore is that these vaccines in the vast majority of people are applying a nonlethal pressure, narrowly focused on one protein, and the vaccine rollout is occurring over a long period of time.
That's the recipe for driving variants."


So what is the answer? Should we stop vaccination, seems like that is what you are suggesting. Where to then for NSW and Vic?
Rupert
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21 Aug 2021 10:39am
Japie said; "Tell me something. Why would an eminent physician disseminate false medical information?"


Tell me something. Why would tens, hundreds, thousands or tens of thousands of his peers NOT support his "medical information?"I mean even Wakefield had some support from his peers before being a proven fraudster and drummed out.
Rupert
Rupert
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21 Aug 2021 10:44am
Japie said; "Which is exactly why Geert Vanden Bossche never got ANY mainstream air time."


Maybe because his peers dont agree with him?

The Doomsday Prophecy of Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche | Office for Science and Society - McGill University
psychojoe
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WA
2241 posts
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21 Aug 2021 1:31pm
Now this from a recent journal article confirms what I'd suspected since the emergence of Delta.
At the end of the article it states that vaccines have been employed to reduce the spread, but with no comment about that. Given the number of breakthrough infections I'm poised to wonder if the asymptomatic vaccinated cases are spreading more than ever before.-------

A comparison of Ct values showed a significant decrease in the Delta compared to Alpha with no significant differences between unvaccinated and vaccinated groups.
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