Vaccine who has it who hasn't who won't?

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FormulaNova
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1 Aug 2021 7:21pm
kiterboy said..
FormulaNova said..

kiterboy said..

FormulaNova said..


kiterboy said..


FormulaNova said..
Maybe we can make it easy and anyone that's a grandparent should just accept that they have had their time and be ready to choof off?




Ahh...now I get where you're coming from, grandpa.




Hey, I know you are still trying to find out who your dad is, but I aint your grandpa. If I were I would deny it anyway, so who knows?



I already know you aren't my grandad, I'm not missing any chromosomes.



I am not your father either, but good luck with the search!


You couldn't be anyone's father, lacking testicles like you do.


Well, I'm not your mother either.
kiterboy
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1 Aug 2021 8:18pm
FormulaNova said..

kiterboy said..

FormulaNova said..


kiterboy said..


FormulaNova said..



kiterboy said..



FormulaNova said..
Maybe we can make it easy and anyone that's a grandparent should just accept that they have had their time and be ready to choof off?





Ahh...now I get where you're coming from, grandpa.





Hey, I know you are still trying to find out who your dad is, but I aint your grandpa. If I were I would deny it anyway, so who knows?




I already know you aren't my grandad, I'm not missing any chromosomes.




I am not your father either, but good luck with the search!



You couldn't be anyone's father, lacking testicles like you do.



Well, I'm not your mother either.


You're definitely someone's though.
Kamikuza
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1 Aug 2021 10:41pm
lotofwind said..
I would have been happy with class-C, but Ill take the A.


I imagine anyone would be happy with a C when they're accustomed to Fs.
eppo
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1 Aug 2021 9:04pm
Well you tried Japie. The kids are in the school yard again.
By the way just because you are skeptical of this particular vaccine doesn't mean you are an antivaxer. But the simpletons love the black and white conclusions and labels i suppose.



ps the emerging data doesnt look good. 12000
deaths, independently verified with a 86 percent chance that the vaccine caused it. Scientific published papers written on it - no information from the CDC. Peter M said that 50 deaths would normally be enough to pull the plug on any drug/vaccine. Most definitely near 200. Scary stuff putting a vaccine into your body at the DNA to produce a foreign spike protein. Never been done before. No turning back if you do.

So does this guy sound like some shmuck sitting on a toilet using google to you? Man id bet hes more qualified than anyone here is in their own field.
Mr Milk
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1 Aug 2021 11:23pm
It's a real pity that Seabreeze wasn't around during the blitz.

"the Luftwaffe is coming to bomb us"

"Quick, build shelters"

"The Germans have done huge damage in Europe"

"Not a problem for me, they only kill weaklings"

"The shelters have been built and we're going to use them even if the cement isn't fully set"

"OK weaklings can use them"

"Unfortunately, a person was injured in a shelter when a brick fell on them"

"See, I told you the shelters are more dangerous than the bombs"

"The Germans have developed better bombs"

"So what, I've been out in the streets in my village near Land's End and no bomb has landed within cooee"
Gboots
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2 Aug 2021 7:12am
lotofwind said..






Gboots said..
Doesn't make you anti Vax wanting to ensure it is safe.




Well if you dont trust the Vax, you fit the exact definition of what an anti Vaxxer is.

"Antivaxxer definition, a person who distrusts or is against vaccination,"





I don't like one movie . I am an anti movie-er ?


If i have had one vaccination does that make me pro-vax ?

How about "I want to take the vaccination once I have had adequate assurance that it has been adequately tested ". That makes me pro safe - vax and anti-untested vax
theDoctor
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2 Aug 2021 9:15am



theDoctor
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2 Aug 2021 9:34am
japie
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2 Aug 2021 9:37am
eppo said..
Well you tried Japie. The kids are in the school yard again.
By the way just because you are skeptical of this particular vaccine doesn't mean you are an antivaxer. But the simpletons love the black and white conclusions and labels i suppose.



ps the emerging data doesnt look good. 12000
deaths, independently verified with a 86 percent chance that the vaccine caused it. Scientific published papers written on it - no information from the CDC. Peter M said that 50 deaths would normally be enough to pull the plug on any drug/vaccine. Most definitely near 200. Scary stuff putting a vaccine into your body at the DNA to produce a foreign spike protein. Never been done before. No turning back if you do.

So does this guy sound like some shmuck sitting on a toilet using google to you? Man id bet hes more qualified than anyone here is in their own field.


I do actually care a great deal about current events. I spent the greater part of my youth under a totalitarian regime and emigrated here to escape that.

I wrote in the burned annals of HW that it would be doctors with integrity who would shine the light of truth on this "pandemic" back in April last year. The manipulators underestimated the medical fraternity and it is going to bite them in the arse in a big big way.

The devastation they've deliberately created is going to be their nemesis because this is without a doubt a coordinated attack on the human race with specific goals in mind namely totalitarian control and population reduction.

This is not just my conclusion but that it the Investigative Corona Committee in Germany.

"Since mid-July 2020, the Corona Committee has been conducting live, multi-hour sessions to investigate why federal and state governments imposed unprecedented restrictions as part of the Coronavirus response and what the consequences have been and still are for people."

These people are not light weights. They've accumulated an astonishing quantity of quality information from experts in many fields around the world.

It is going to be very interesting times ahead.
psychojoe
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2 Aug 2021 7:41am
theDoctor said..



There's a possibility that it's actually the vaxxed killing the unvaxxed, there's some data that points to it but so long as we demand 100% Vax saturation we can stop that pesky data affecting share prices.

The sharp spike comes at the point vaccines were introduced.
Just correlation, not necessarily causation.



FormulaNova
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2 Aug 2021 7:57am
psychojoe said..

There's a possibility that it's actually the vaxxed killing the unvaxxed, there's some data that points to it...


I don't understand this comment. What does it mean that it could be the vaccinated killing the unvaccinated?

Can you explain it without a meme or screenshot of some random's posting. I know others here like to post like that but its the equivalent of just getting a random person on Facebook to give you an opinion.

Just out of interest, I am curious about your knowledge? Do you work in the health field or something? Your posts seem to often have a lot of technical information in them and I am curious as to whether you work in that area or are just an interested person.
Buster fin
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2 Aug 2021 8:19am
I got the Pfizer vax on Saturday. Started getting a sore arm at injection point that night as expected. Also started getting muscle pain in my left pectineus which has now moved more to my iliopsoas. It's a struggle to stand up/sit down, and I think I'll be off work all week. I maaaaaay have developed it sitting in a weird way watching the olympics on Sat arvo, but I can't help thinking it's vax related.
And of course the surf is pumping for the first time in ages.
Kamikuza
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2 Aug 2021 10:32am
FormulaNova said..
I don't understand this comment. What does it mean that it could be the vaccinated killing the unvaccinated?

Can you explain it without a meme or screenshot of some random's posting. I know others here like to post like that but its the equivalent of just getting a random person on Facebook to give you an opinion.

Just out of interest, I am curious about your knowledge? Do you work in the health field or something? Your posts seem to often have a lot of technical information in them and I am curious as to whether you work in that area or are just an interested person.


The vaccines are "forcing" the virus to mutate and become more contagious. And if vaccinated people can still spread it, and they're out their doing their thing with the lack of "care" that you'd expect, then the unvaccinated are going to get it and with the risk of mortality higher ... there you go.

There's tons of information out there, with reliable medical professionals giving sensible points of view, and not the fear-mongering un-named "experts".

... don't know how you couldn't be interested in this, given the effect it's been allowed to have.
FormulaNova
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2 Aug 2021 8:39am
Kamikuza said..
FormulaNova said..
I don't understand this comment. What does it mean that it could be the vaccinated killing the unvaccinated?

Can you explain it without a meme or screenshot of some random's posting. I know others here like to post like that but its the equivalent of just getting a random person on Facebook to give you an opinion.

Just out of interest, I am curious about your knowledge? Do you work in the health field or something? Your posts seem to often have a lot of technical information in them and I am curious as to whether you work in that area or are just an interested person.


The vaccines are "forcing" the virus to mutate and become more contagious. And if vaccinated people can still spread it, and they're out their doing their thing with the lack of "care" that you'd expect, then the unvaccinated are going to get it and with the risk of mortality higher ... there you go.


I was asking psychojoe's comment on this, but your's is just as good.

What do you mean by the vacccines are forcing the virus to mutate?
bobajob
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2 Aug 2021 10:56am

2nd Astra today.

The doctor said there is a 1 in 2,000,000 chance of death from the vax.

The doctor said there is a 1 in 2000 chance of dying from an angiogram.

He was very unprofessional when it came to cardio bypass surgery as he didn't have the figures but said it's even higher than an angiogram.

I've have had all three now and survived.

Carantoc
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2 Aug 2021 9:05am
Queensland Chief Health Officer Dr Jeannette Young urged people to stay at home.

"We need to lock down really, really hard, the hardest we have ever locked down," she said.

"If you don't need to leave your house don't. I cannot understand why anyone would be in an office today. If you are in an office today, why aren't you at home?"

....

"There are far too many cars out on the road when I drove in to the office this morning."
japie
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2 Aug 2021 11:42am
Mr Milk said..
It's a real pity that Seabreeze wasn't around during the blitz.

"the Luftwaffe is coming to bomb us"

"Quick, build shelters"

"The Germans have done huge damage in Europe"

"Not a problem for me, they only kill weaklings"

"The shelters have been built and we're going to use them even if the cement isn't fully set"

"OK weaklings can use them"

"Unfortunately, a person was injured in a shelter when a brick fell on them"

"See, I told you the shelters are more dangerous than the bombs"

"The Germans have developed better bombs"

"So what, I've been out in the streets in my village near Land's End and no bomb has landed within cooee"



Strange!

SAGE documented the use of fear in order to drive home the Corona narrative.
No fighting on the beaches in this campaign!
japie
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2 Aug 2021 11:53am
FormulaNova said..

Kamikuza said..

FormulaNova said..
I don't understand this comment. What does it mean that it could be the vaccinated killing the unvaccinated?

Can you explain it without a meme or screenshot of some random's posting. I know others here like to post like that but its the equivalent of just getting a random person on Facebook to give you an opinion.

Just out of interest, I am curious about your knowledge? Do you work in the health field or something? Your posts seem to often have a lot of technical information in them and I am curious as to whether you work in that area or are just an interested person.



The vaccines are "forcing" the virus to mutate and become more contagious. And if vaccinated people can still spread it, and they're out their doing their thing with the lack of "care" that you'd expect, then the unvaccinated are going to get it and with the risk of mortality higher ... there you go.



I was asking psychojoe's comment on this, but your's is just as good.

What do you mean by the vacccines are forcing the virus to mutate?


Watch Geert Vanden Bossche's warning to the world.

This guy is recognised as being one of the world's leading authority's on vaccination.

Four months ago he predicted what would happen.


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westozwind
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2 Aug 2021 9:59am
So, out of all the commenters, who is a medical doctor, microbiologist, immunologist or epidemiologist? Do those skeptical honestly believe that these scientists (tens of thousands world wide) are all involved in a global coverup about vaccines? Your year 12 C grade in science is probably not enough to make you an "expert" no matter how many YouTube videos you watch.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche is a veterinary doctor who also has a Ph.D. in virology. He has not been involved in vaccine development, trials or rollout. Nice to throw stones from the outside.
japie
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2 Aug 2021 12:33pm
westozwind said..
So, out of all the commenters, who is a medical doctor, microbiologist, immunologist or epidemiologist? Do those skeptical honestly believe that these scientists (tens of thousands world wide) are all involved in a global coverup about vaccines? Your year 12 C grade in science is probably not enough to make you an "expert" no matter how many YouTube videos you watch.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche is a veterinary doctor who also has a Ph.D. in virology. He has not been involved in vaccine development, trials or rollout. Nice to throw stones from the outside.


Nice try.

Do not pass go or collect $200

He warned what would happen over four months ago.

It is happening.
bobajob
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2 Aug 2021 12:52pm
westozwind said..
So, out of all the commenters, who is a medical doctor, microbiologist, immunologist or epidemiologist? Do those skeptical honestly believe that these scientists (tens of thousands world wide) are all involved in a global coverup about vaccines? Your year 12 C grade in science is probably not enough to make you an "expert" no matter how many YouTube videos you watch.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche is a veterinary doctor who also has a Ph.D. in virology. He has not been involved in vaccine development, trials or rollout. Nice to throw stones from the outside.



Why yes that's true, my cardiologist only saved my life to perpetuate the sale of statins. It's a world wide cover up by all cardio thoracic surgeons and directed as such by big pharma.

It seems ironic we're worried about the long term effects of a vaccine when you consider all the crap we put in our bodies, alcohol, nicotine, sugar, salt, saturated fats, etc, on a daily basis.
psychomub
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2 Aug 2021 10:57am
westozwind said..
So, out of all the commenters, who is a medical doctor, microbiologist, immunologist or epidemiologist? Do those skeptical honestly believe that these scientists (tens of thousands world wide) are all involved in a global coverup about vaccines? Your year 12 C grade in science is probably not enough to make you an "expert" no matter how many YouTube videos you watch.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche is a veterinary doctor who also has a Ph.D. in virology. He has not been involved in vaccine development, trials or rollout. Nice to throw stones from the outside.


Not so much a coverup, but a reluctance for those with doubts to speak up due to the hysteria surrounding Rona.

Also the data on the virus , the jabs etc is so new and confusing, it is very difficult to make an informed statement.
Gazuki
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2 Aug 2021 11:01am
I thinks it's all hilarious. How's scared this generation is.

When grandad was young his county asked him to go to war for the country. Him and his mates literally went to hell and didn't ask a question.

This generation is asked to get one needle and they carry on like it's end of days. Just do what your country needs us to do to beat this **** and get back to normal. What the country is asking isn't much when you think about it.
kiterboy
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2 Aug 2021 11:03am
Gazuki said..
... and get back to normal.


Another one deluded.
Brent in Qld
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2 Aug 2021 11:03am
Nice try

WHO said millions would die if Covid-19 wasn't taken seriously, that was 18+ months ago.

It is happening.
bobajob
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2 Aug 2021 1:24pm
psychomub said..

westozwind said..
So, out of all the commenters, who is a medical doctor, microbiologist, immunologist or epidemiologist? Do those skeptical honestly believe that these scientists (tens of thousands world wide) are all involved in a global coverup about vaccines? Your year 12 C grade in science is probably not enough to make you an "expert" no matter how many YouTube videos you watch.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche is a veterinary doctor who also has a Ph.D. in virology. He has not been involved in vaccine development, trials or rollout. Nice to throw stones from the outside.



Not so much a coverup, but a reluctance for those with doubts to speak up due to the hysteria surrounding Rona.

Also the data on the virus , the jabs etc is so new and confusing, it is very difficult to make an informed statement.


Funny isn't it, we won't have a jab because its all so new even though 99.99%of the medical profession give it the ok because it may just save your life.
Yet we'll swallow every last Bg Mac, pizza, kfc, etc which has been around for ever and 99.99% of the medical profession condemn it because its almost guaranteed to kill you.
kiterboy
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2 Aug 2021 11:27am
I'm curious as to why there is so much talk about the increase in new cases of the 'Delta' strain.It's all we're hearing about...x many new cases today! x many new cases today again!!
Are there any numbers on the CFR for the super-contagious 'Delta' strain?
kiterboy
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2 Aug 2021 11:32am
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33113270/

Results of the study: COVID-19 vaccines designed to elicit neutralising antibodies may sensitise vaccine recipients to more severe disease than if they were not vaccinated. Vaccines for SARS, MERS and RSV have never been approved, and the data generated in the development and testing of these vaccines suggest a serious mechanistic concern: that vaccines designed empirically using the traditional approach (consisting of the unmodified or minimally modified coronavirus viral spike to elicit neutralising antibodies), be they composed of protein, viral vector, DNA or RNA and irrespective of delivery method, may worsen COVID-19 disease via antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE). This risk is sufficiently obscured in clinical trial protocols and consent forms for ongoing COVID-19 vaccine trials that adequate patient comprehension of this risk is unlikely to occur, obviating truly informed consent by subjects in these trials.
Gboots
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2 Aug 2021 1:46pm
I have a child doing HSC. I really don't want them to have the vaccine yet. But they may be forced to (or no HSC). I can't force to take or not to take . I have carefully warned her that there may be consequences but who am I to hold her back for the rest of her life . I am feeling pretty stressed about this at moment . One thing for me to be at risk . A totally different story when it's your pride and joy. I am not sure how I would deal with it if she had major side effects .
evlPanda
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2 Aug 2021 1:46pm
eppo said.. ps the emerging data doesnt look good. 12000 deaths, independently verified with a 86 percent chance that the vaccine caused it.



It does sound suspicious, indeed.

Explanation: There are far more high-risk people that are vaccinated than low-risk people that aren't.

It's akin to saying "there's an 86% chance old age caused it".
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