JulianRoss said..
To answer the original question:
1 Had my two doses
2 Didn't die
3 Had a reaction, but also didn't die
4 Can use the microwave oven without a buzzing noise in my head
5 Not being followed by any Government surveillance crews
6 Not really feeling like I need to buy a new computer, or any other Microsoft programs
7 Still can't understand conspiracy theories
8 I am really glad not to be living in Sydney.
9 Anyone catching waves?, if so tell us how it went in the surf report please.

That is exactly what brainwashed government controlled victim would say

Mobydisc said..
A vaccine protects the vaccinated from infection. The vaccination stimulates the body's antibodies to attack infection.

Why do individuals suffer a massive denial of rights as large corporations enjoy a large increase in profit?

You're not protected from infection, you're protected from serious consequences of an infection, because you already have antibodies to fight it off before it overwhelms your system. Example, measles still exists in the world today; we vaccinate children to greatly increase the odds that they don't die from it.

That's a good question. The profit thing is a bit secondary, borderline CRT IMO but the wholesale denial of civil liberties that people have just handed over is beyond belief.

It's remarkable to me that there is such fear amongst the authorities that we need to lockdown entire countries, but it's perfectly fine for employees of Amazon, Uber Eats, supermarkets, delivery food services etc etc to just rock around doing their thing with what I can only assume is an acceptable level of protection -- why can't the rest of us "non-essential" peons just go about our lives with the same precautions...?

My personal opinion is that the PCR tests are the wrong tests to use -- it would be like a breathalyzer that tests only negative or positive for alcohol, and then ensuring that the device is sensitive enough to return a positive result at *any* level of alcohol. It tells you nothing at all about the impairment of the individual tested.

Which is why you've got this bull**** talk about locking down, quarantines EVEN THOUGH people are completed vaccinated because OOH THE HORROR you can still get infected once vaccinated. Imagine locking people down because a couple dozen people tested positive for measles... or is that where we're heading?

AFAIK there's been no data proving that a positive PCR test means you're infectious and are going to get sick...? But sure, lets keep locking the world down because 0.000002% of the population returns a positive test....

Mostly unconnected to what you're talking about, sorry Moby

japie said..

cammd said..

japie said..

kiterboy said..

lotofwind said..

You guys will be the control group.....well....the group being controlled. lol

Says the one being controlled by the rampant fear mongering.

I started to reply to that but cancelled because I realised that it really was quite pointless!

Peter McCollough says in one of his interviews that it's almost as though a large percentage of doctors are in a trance.

Brian Gerrish from the UK Column delves into this phenomenon in depth. Been doing it for a fair while before the onset of Covid.

The British and French government have been colluding on the use of applied psychology in order to manipulate the population into accepting government policies. The UK government states in one of their documents on the subject that in the unlikely event that an individual realised that their stance on a policy has changed they will not be able to figure out how it happened.

Fear is a major factor in the technique.

I'm immune to it. As is everyone else who does not watch television, listen to the radio of read the mainstream papers.

lol, cant help but think your just gripped with another fear by reading all the non MSM stuff.

I guess it comes down to choose your fear hey.

Fixated but not fearful. Angry and optimistic.

Optimistic because the Covid narrative is getting shakier by the day and as it does the number of people who are coming to the realisation that they have been manipulated beyond the pale is growing proportionally.

The globalists have had far too much influence for far too long and this has the potential of bringing their infernal meddling to an abrupt halt.

I wish this was true Japie. But they have us by the balls. Remember the scientific reports into Weapons of Mass Destruction ? Well we didn't learn (or care enough) so they learnt that they can do what they want . 9/11 was the real tipping point in freedoms no matter what narrative of that event you believe . It was used - just like Covid - to pursue certain controls

I do not understand the whiners on this forum. Facts:
Crime is down
We are in the wealthiest 1% of the world population
We work a short week with heaps of time for water activities (purpose of forum)
We live longer and healthier than any previous generation
We can express or opinions no matter how stupid (egTrump)
No subscription to fight in a war
Vaccines have removed so many common illnesses eg polio and measles

We are so blessed. My dad was in Manchester in WW2 with no money.

Just get the jab to help the whole of our community. Don't just think of your self-indulged so important self.

Razzonater said..
After registering and waiting around 10 weeks as an under 40 year old ( just)
I have received notification that I can now get a dose of Pfizer ( Western Australia)
However I have to wait until the last week of august for it, I'm okay with that.
Im ok with getting the vaccine for the greater good.
I spent a lot of time in India working and they still have polio there, people fully grown adults with twisted legs and working.
hard physical labour carrying scaffold with one leg being dragged along.

Did they rush it out, yep absolutely, is it the best solution???? Probably not,,,, are we all going to get COVID eventually... 100% for sure

Its nice to live in a country with choices, and I choose to get my vaccine and get my passport and travel through some long indo tubes again once possible, hopefully it helps my parents, your parents, grandparents and elderly relatives get back to some normality.

The business and mental damage that the draconian measures have done are probably worse already than what the virus would have done if it was let loose..
On the other hand the only reason we didn't lose thousands and thousands of Australians is because of them.

Im all for conspiracy's but this virus is real, and so are the long health term effects.

Id rather take my chance with the vaccine than the virus.

next update will be when they have banged that sweet sweet Pfizer into my arm, can't wait...

I hope the microchips make me smarter

I really like this comment. I decided it deserves more than a green thumb.
I'm on the other side of the fence in regards to the vaccines that are currently available, but nonetheless I agree with everything you said.

Mobydisc said..
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To me this means what is on offer are not vaccines, they are something else. We hear those who are vaccinated do not suffer as much if infected as those who are not vaccinated. To me this means the vaccinations are not vaccines, they are something else.

A vaccine protects the vaccinated from infection. The vaccination stimulates the body's antibodies to attack infection. This is what being vaccinated traditionally means.

Here Moby, if you really want to know why these vaccines are not the same as for other viruses, read this. It answers what you want to know.

www.abc.net.au/news/health/2020-04-17/coronavirus-vaccine-ian-frazer/12146616

When you understand it, you can understand why its not as simple as getting a few doses and being good to go.

Before now, vaccines for coronaviruses hadn't been done successfully.

Gboots said..

No it just means we have some really stupid people out there in our community who are so incapable of looking after themselves the government has to come up with other creative ways to look after them.

Like the way people can't be forced to get help for mental health issues...you have to get creative to help people sometimes often for the greater good of the community they chose to live in.

Attempting communication in the language of the ancients this morning, memes. I believe by doing so this reposting of someone else's creation makes me an equal authority to the original author or at least, qualified to tear down those who disagrees with my opinions.


Please disregard the above post if you primarily communicate by meme or URL copy/pasting. Your transition to the matrix is already complete and are part of the network aimed at reducing human numbers on the planet. Have a nice day, thanks from your sponsors.

psychojoe said..

hilly said..
I do not understand the whiners on this forum. Facts:
Crime is down
We are in the wealthiest 1% of the world population
We work a short week with heaps of time for water activities (purpose of forum)
We live longer and healthier than any previous generation
We can express or opinions no matter how stupid (egTrump)
No subscription to fight in a war
Vaccines have removed so many common illnesses eg polio and measles

We are so blessed. My dad was in Manchester in WW2 with no money.

Just get the jab to help the whole of our community. Don't just think of your self-indulged so important self.

Yep, we live in a crime free tax haven with zero homelessness and great social services, there's no domestic violence, no racism, and the poorest children are given the best chance in life, and Christian Porter was stood aside not promoted when he was accused of something an Australian man has never done. It's only because every politician and public advisor we have have never been found guilty of any indiscretion that I feel confident in blindly following any and all directives

You have the choice not to. That is very rare in history and now.

Just to be clear on this particular vaccines mechanism. Vaccines traditionally inject a "safe" amount of the disease molecules which causes the immune system to attack it - hence developing antibodies.
this vaccine hijacks your cells DNA production systems to then produce the spike covid protein. THEN the bodies immune system attacks the spike protein that YOUR body has produced.


Probably the reason why variants can still infect you and cause issues. But probably can reduce the effects having dealt with the same family of spike proteins


anyone else got an issue with injecting something that manipulates your DNA to protein synthesis systems?? First time in medical science history this has been used.
that is we have to stop thinking about this vaccine as similar to other vaccines used in the past because it isnt. The underlying mechansim is vastly different.


I could be wrong above but thats my understanding thus far.

eppo said..
Just to be clear on this particular vaccines mechanism. Vaccines traditionally inject a "safe" amount of the disease molecules which causes the immune system to attack it - hence developing antibodies.
this vaccine hijacks your cells DNA production systems to then produce the spike covid protein. THEN the bodies immune system attacks the spike protein that YOUR body has produced.


Probably the reason why variants can still infect you and cause issues. But probably can reduce the effects having dealt with the same family of spike proteins


anyone else got an issue with injecting something that manipulates your DNA to protein synthesis systems?? First time in medical science history this has been used.
that is we have to stop thinking about this vaccine as similar to other vaccines used in the past because it isnt. The underlying mechansim is vastly different.


I could be wrong above but thats my understanding thus far.

My understanding is that you're completely wrong.
I don't have a degree in virology but I can assure you that it's old technology, maybe 20 years but only used in veterinary medicine, with some suggesting it's only the instability of the components that stopped it from coming to the human market earlier, which is feasible, but I'd say bull****.
And while it's only recently been demonstrated that RNA is used by DNA in repair function, that's not the same as free RNA being incorporated in DNA, but that right there is enough to make me think this field of science is still in its infancy

hilly said..
I do not understand the whiners on this forum. Facts:
Crime is down
We are in the wealthiest 1% of the world population
We work a short week with heaps of time for water activities (purpose of forum)
We live longer and healthier than any previous generation
We can express or opinions no matter how stupid (egTrump)
No subscription to fight in a war
Vaccines have removed so many common illnesses eg polio and measles

We are so blessed. My dad was in Manchester in WW2 with no money.

Just get the jab to help the whole of our community. Don't just think of your self-indulged so important self.

Hilly . I understand your comments .
But for many it is not about ourselves but about our younger children. I just don't think there are enough assurances for those less than 20 to have this specific vaccination at this point . Meningococcal vaccinations ? Yes 100 % they should receive . Similar with other such as measles or chicken pox. Tried and tested and also high risk defence mechanisms .

Mobydisc said..
To me this means the vaccinations are not vaccines, they are something else.

A vaccine protects the vaccinated from infection. The vaccination stimulates the body's antibodies to attack infection. This is what being vaccinated traditionally means.

Here is a summary of why infections of the upper respiratory tract are difficult to protect against and effectively why you can still catch this virus in your respiratory tract while the rest of you has immunity to it.

From www.abc.net.au/news/health/2020-04-17/coronavirus-vaccine-ian-frazer/12146616


He said the challenge is that coronaviruses have historically been hard to make safe vaccines for, partly because the virus infects the upper respiratory tract, which our immune system isn't great at protecting.

"For each virus or different bacterium that causes a disease, we need a different vaccine because the immune response that's mounted is different," Dr Labzin

There are several reasons why our upper respiratory tract is a hard area to target a vaccine.
"It's a separate immune system, if you like, which isn't easily accessible by vaccine technology," Professor Frazer told the Health Report.

Despite your upper respiratory tract feeling very much like it's inside your body, it's effectively considered an external surface for the purposes of immunisation.

"It's a bit like trying to get a vaccine to kill a virus on the surface of your skin."

Your skin, and the outer layer of cells in your upper respiratory tract act as a barrier to viruses, stopping them getting into the body.
And finding a way to neutralise the virus "outside" of the body is very difficult.

evlPanda said..

eppo said..
This vaccine hijacks your cells DNA production systems to then produce the spike covid protein. THEN the bodies immune system attacks the spike protein that YOUR body has produced.

Anyone else got an issue with injecting something that manipulates your DNA to protein synthesis systems?? First time in medical science history this has been used.

that is we have to stop thinking about this vaccine as similar to other vaccines used in the past because it isnt. The underlying mechansim is vastly different.


I could be wrong above but thats my understanding thus far.

This mechanism is amazing. There is no other way to put it.

Just to be clear the mRNA vaccines do not hijack your DNA. They use the CELLS, not the cell's DNA. The DNA is not touched, or interacted with, at all. Doesn't need to be.

In your body it works like this: DNA > mRNA > Cell > protein.

VOX has a 5 minute overview of how it works for the layman:

That we can use our own bodies as a pharmaceutical factory is the future. This will be used for so much more than just vaccines.

Heil Gates!

...where did that come from?

I didn't have seven minutes for your video, but the article below conflicts with one line of your comment

scitechdaily.com/new-discovery-shows-human-cells-can-write-rna-sequences-into-dna-challenges-central-principle-in-biology/