the right to bear arms is one thing- the right to bear several large calibre fully automatic assault rifles is another...

It's too late now.

Make guns illegal, all the good people hand them in, then it would be a free for all for the crooks.

^^^ Or do what they did here - hand in semi-autos to be crushed, my father (farmer) handed in his shotgun and watched it put through the bender, only to have the law lifted shortly after!

While America does have the most, it isn't just them,

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/07/20/the-worst-mass-shootings-of-the-past-50-years/

That news article has a list of shootings, sure America has a few, but Tasmania still has one of the worst, Finland has had a couple.

The gun law thing is a tough one. In a country like Australia, I think something like this is unlikely because I don't think an actual criminal does it. It's gotta be a crazy person.

Surely no normally minded person would do this (im not defending them either, they should be locked up for good). And I can't see some bikie member/some other crook going on a rampage like this killing innocent people.

I don't know the stats, but I'm guessing a small percent of Australians own a firearm. Giving it less chance of landing in a nut jobs hands, making less chance of a mass killing.

Americans need guns incase the king of England comes over and starts bossing people around.

the right to bear arms is one thing - yet it is probably better than the right to arm bears...

evlPanda said...



Canada has more guns per citizen and nowhere near the violence. There is as much violence in many other countries too, of course. More even.

no, it doesn't. it was 13th in 2007.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country

Mobydisc said...

Americans need guns incase the king of England comes over and starts bossing people around.

I think that most would argue that the danger is from their own military and the fruit cakes who control it!

japie said...

Why is it that nearly all of these shootings take place in a country where there is a heavy government agenda to disarm the people? Was for a long time a supporter of disarmament, changed my tune now.

I dont think the US government is trying to disarm anybody, the NRA make sure of that!!

doggie said...

japie said...

Why is it that nearly all of these shootings take place in a country where there is a heavy government agenda to disarm the people? Was for a long time a supporter of disarmament, changed my tune now.

I dont think the US government is trying to disarm anybody, the NRA make sure of that!!

Rednecks vote, they like guns, there are lots of them in America so the Guvament just like here panders to the largets segments of the poulation, Ours is working families. theres is gun totting red necks...

i read this yesterday.. good article.

www.smh.com.au/world/coping-with-the-natural-disaster-of-firearms-crime-in-america-20120722-22i79.html

Macroscien said...

What is the purpose for having a gun at all?
If gun is to protect you from another people then what about another end of the scale ?
Countries that people don't have guns at all .....
Is it safer to live then in US ?

No, I wouldnt think so.

The UK has stricter laws than us and have less gun related crime.

The cause of all these problems is obviously people moving away from God. Gay marriage, womens rights, equality, abortion, Muslims, atheists, all that. It's like in Ghostbusters when everyone was mean to each other and all that purple goo started building up in the sewers.

Squid Lips said...

The cause of all these problems is obviously people moving away from God. Gay marriage, womens rights, equality, abortion, Muslims, athiests, all that. It's like in Ghostbusters when everyone was mean to each other and all that purple goo started building up in the sewers.

There is a god? I dont think religion has got anything to do with it. These people are fkn nutters!!

doggie said...

It seems that the laws over there are a bit out of date.

I would like to get Marks comment on this.

No you wouldn't.

doggie said...

Sailhack said...

^^^ Or do what they did here - hand in semi-autos to be crushed, my father (farmer) handed in his shotgun and watched it put through the bender, only to have the law lifted shortly after!

My Dad had a .22 Baretta semi auto, bloody nice gun. I really wanted to keep it as a keep sake. It was a sad day for me when it got crushed

What a shame doggie........... you could have kept it under a collector license!