Gee don't think i'll eat beef again

dirtyharry said...

4 Corners? Beef?

You mean like this?

lol, I wish, 4 corners ABC on Australian cattle slaughtered in Indonesia, talk about butchery.

Aaaah.

A bespectacled man once said: The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.

Note that the above is intended to relate to Australia as much as Indo (they're originally our animals after all).

im a bit ill now

Adoy said...

Ban live exports and keep the process, value adding, jobs and money in Australia Mate!

Except that Australians will always prefer to buy the cheap imports mate!

Smuggle drugs in a boogie board cover, get a life sentence. Torture animals. Get a slaap on the wrist no doubt.

I dont know what I found more distressing, the cow with it's head 3/4 decapitated tried to get up and run away or the one that had to watch 4 others be butchered and was quaking with terror.

Pweedas Just because one place closed down doesn't mean it has stopped...it looked like all of the places they visited had issues. I cant belive they have been trying for 11 years to stop this tuff.

I reckon we should just export beef to them and wack a halal sticker on the packet. cost of making the halal meat, 1c halal sticker.

FormulaNova said...

Adoy said...

Ban live exports and keep the process, value adding, jobs and money in Australia Mate!

I think these countries require that they get live animals as they need to slaughter them according to their religious requirements. If you ban the live export trade, you will lose that income as they will not accept animals already killed.

I didn't see the program, but I am assuming the way these animals were killed was particularly bad. Is there anyway to control this part of the process?

Was disgusting, some disturbing events indeed the last cow to be killed was shivering and shaking after watching all of the group having their throats cut slowly dying while being cut up in front of it (never seen a cow reacting like that, they truly have knowlege for what is about to happen).
One handler (killer) broke its tail because it wouldnt move while another was beaten because it wouldnt get up after having its leg clearly broken, it goes on...
If these religious freaks want to kill things this way they should have to come out here and do it in a humane controlled manner.

I didn't see the program, but from the above comments sounds horrific! As pweedas said, there must be a way to improve the treatment of the animals whilst we still supply the 'product'? It also sounds like a very inefficient way to kill a beast...educate the countries to show them that they can make money first by being 'more efficient' in their practices, whilst attempting to educate them on humane treatment of the animals.

We 'mainly' (can't say only, just what we keep at home) eat meat from family's/friend's properties...and we get involved in the process. The butchers used always treat the animals with as much dignity as is possible in that situation.

Sailhack said...

I didn't see the program, but from the above comments sounds horrific! As pweedas said, there must be a way to improve the treatment of the animals whilst we still supply the 'product'? It also sounds like a very inefficient way to kill a beast...educate the countries to show them that they can make money first by being 'more efficient' in their practices, whilst attempting to educate them on humane treatment of the animals.

We 'mainly' (can't say only, just what we keep at home) eat meat from family's/friend's properties...and we get involved in the process. The butchers used always treat the animals with as much dignity as is possible in that situation.

here's the link www.abc.net.au/iview/#/view/775504

We treat all animals like sh!t.

I urge you to check out this award winning docco.
Its fully disturbing but real.

video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6361872964130308142#

This is one of the many reasons why I am a vegetarian.

there's one major flaw in these religious manuals, they didn't build in an update system, what worked a thousand years ago doesn't apply in today's society

This topic came up a couple of years ago. I think it was animals being slaughtered in Saudi. They would slash the cow's eyes and blind them. Once they can't see the cattle quiet down and they can be managed more easily.

At risk of being branded a racist, I find religions in general to be offensive.

I can understand people taking comfort in having faith in some sort of deity or ideology.

I feel no sympathy for religions if they require you to:
- wear a special hat
- wear special clothes
- wear your hair in a special way (head or facial)
- remove parts of your body (unless there is a demonstrable medical or hygiene reason to do it)
- eat/not eat any foods for any other than nutrition and hygiene reason
- prepare foods in a ceremonial way (unless it is for hygiene reasons, or possibly, a philosophical reason to improve the treatment of animals. Maybe a ceremony requiring the people to appreciate the fact that animals are being killed or people are working hard to provide the food. Definitely not something requiring stuff be done to the animal or food.)
- get pregnant every time you have sex.
- forgo routine, mundane life saving medical interventions
- anything else that gives me the sh.ts

I didn't see the program but I'm guessing it's the same as this video for anyone else who missed it. The video starts with the Western bolt gun kill, then the Islam way..

://www.youtube.com/results%3Fsearch_query%3Dmeet%2Byour%2Bmeat%26aq%3Df&has_verified=1

This is a rundown on whats happening in the UK, halal is being allowed under the guise of 'multiculturalism' and respect for 'religious tradition'


If you are engaged in an act of cruelty, there is an easy, effective way to silence your critics and snatch some space to carry on. Tell us all that your religion requires you to do it, and you are "offended" by any critical response. Erect an electric wire fence around your nastiest actions and call it "respect".Continued..
www.johannhari.com/2010/11/19/we-should-not-tolerate-religious-excuses-for-extreme-animal-cruelty



Dinsdale again, how can you criticise another religion for being "Crack pot'.. Your all equally crackpot..

I grew up on Farms and have seen many animals killed. Saying that the above video shocks me so much that I had to turn it off.

Can anyone actually explain the religious benefit or why this is necessary for animals to be killed in such a way when there are clearly more humane ways to do it???

I'm off to search google, if I find anything useful I will post the links here.