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user

1140 posts

user

WA, 1140 posts

3 Feb 2008 5:52pm

Kimbo is a Kitesurfer, the other guy is a Windsurfer !

To top it all off, kitesurfers are are happy with YELLOW arrows !

Green arrows mean we break out the small kites !

Beat that!!

I know I can't beat you windsurfer guys. There are too many of you sitting on your computers waiting for green arrows.
Reminds me why I gave up Windsurfing.

CJW

NSW

1731 posts

CJW

NSW, 1731 posts

3 Feb 2008 8:07pm

I think the low end for a windsurfer is the same as a kite surfer. I can plane in 10kts on my big gear, can you comfortably kite in that? The other day I was out, it was light, i'd guess 10-12kts. The kiters couldn't stay upwind, couldn't really jump, I sailed 2 km up the coast for a bit of a cruise then came back, they were all standing around and complaining how **** the wind was, I had a good laugh.

The difference is once it hits about 15kts the kites hit their strides, they can boost huge air and probably do most of their tricks etc. Windsurfing you can start do to a bit of freestyle stuff but you really need 20kts plus to start busting out in the waves jump stylez. So kites no doubt have a wider range within which they can do all of their freestyle tricks etc.

However when you're right down in the low end it's the same for both sports imo, big sails, big kites, it all gets sluggish.

kitecrazzzy

2184 posts

kitecrazzzy

WA, 2184 posts

3 Feb 2008 6:33pm

i dont care if someone's out there on polesurfer or kite as long as they are out there... funny thing is by that logic kitesurfing is better as you can get out a lot more.
last winter there where 2 awesome days at dutchies that i had to myself, the best waves for kiting or windsurfing you could imagine in perth, i had them to myself as the wind was too light for windsurfers one the one day and the second only one pollie was out there but heaps of surfers.

it doesnt matter if "your not really riding the waves" because at the end of the day the windsurfers didnt even get on the water.

frant

VIC

1230 posts

frant

VIC, 1230 posts

3 Feb 2008 8:33pm

CJW said...

I think the low end for a windsurfer is the same as a kite surfer. I can plane in 10kts on my big gear, can you comfortably kite in that? The other day I was out, it was light, i'd guess 10-12kts. The kiters couldn't stay upwind, couldn't really jump, I sailed 2 km up the coast for a bit of a cruise then came back, they were all standing around and complaining how **** the wind was, I had a good laugh.

The difference is once it hits about 15kts the kites hit their strides, they can boost huge air and probably do most of their tricks etc. Windsurfing you can start do to a bit of freestyle stuff but you really need 20kts plus to start busting out in the waves jump stylez. So kites no doubt have a wider range within which they can do all of their freestyle tricks etc.

However when you're right down in the low end it's the same for both sports imo, big sails, big kites, it all gets sluggish.

Come on! This is starting to get far too civil.
Bring back the Gays on Trays versus poleys taunts. Yesterday my wife said to me "My what a big pole you have" Yes I replied enthusiastically, thats because my new 8.5 Koncept uses a 490 mast with a 20cm extension compared with a 400 mast for my 5 metre sail. "Oh" she replied choking back tears, "I thought it was because of my new underwear."

So call me a poley anyday

aus301

QLD

2039 posts

aus301

QLD, 2039 posts

3 Feb 2008 7:57pm

la la la...gays, teabaggers, polies who cares.

There would be no kitesurfing without windsurfing, so respect your roots you ungratefull pack of ballerinas.

As for kitesurfing being an extreme sport...give me a break. I have tried to sit through the KWPT stuff on fox and after about 10 mins it gets real boring. Extreme sports are marketing hype and rubbish. The extreme stuff happens when nobody is watching.

And as for it being better and all that, hmm how many times has a kite come close to a wind powered speed record? And I am yet to see kites featured in the olympics. There is too much focus on the "cool" of kitesurfing, but in reality it is a very one dimensional sport.

Windsurfing had that same cool factor in the 80's and even into the 90's, but it passed as it will with kitesurfing. If your sport is truly as great as you say we will see how it weathers the inevitable down turn in popularity.

user

1140 posts

user

WA, 1140 posts

3 Feb 2008 7:12pm

You want fighting?

Here's World Heavyweight Champ,Wladimir Klitschko, kitesurfing !

Can't get the hang of the "embed" thing !

russh

3027 posts

russh

SA, 3027 posts

3 Feb 2008 8:58pm

user said...

You want fighting?

Here's World Heavyweight Champ kitesurfing !

Can't get the hang of the "embed" thing !

Yawn!

mkseven

QLD

2315 posts

mkseven

QLD, 2315 posts

3 Feb 2008 8:50pm

user said...

You want fighting?

Here's World Heavyweight Champ,Wladimir Klitschko, kitesurfing !

Can't get the hang of the "embed" thing !

Pumping up a kite is a workout

Mobydisc

NSW

9029 posts

Mobydisc

NSW, 9029 posts

3 Feb 2008 10:32pm

This thread started with a specific incident where a kite boarder collided with a windsurfer and injured the windsurfer. The kite boarder refused to apologise or admit any fault.

It really doesn't matter whether windsurfing is dying out or whether kite boarding will be legislated out of existance. What matters is common sense and ettiquet on the water.

If a windsurfer acts like an idiot on water, which I am yet to see, then they could cause injury or death by hitting someone.

If a kiter acts like an idiot they too can cause injury or death by hitting someone. Added to this their lines are very long and they take up a large amount of space. This adds to the danger, plus the apparent irresponsible attitude of many kite boarders means kite boarding is dangerous to bystanders. The 'bad' 'rad' attitude which comes from board sports or perhaps delusions caused by substance abuse, has no place when you are sharing the beach with people who don't care or are impressed by you and your hand grabs.

BundyBear

NSW

325 posts

BundyBear

NSW, 325 posts

3 Feb 2008 10:37pm

CJW

NSW

1731 posts

CJW

NSW, 1731 posts

3 Feb 2008 10:52pm

user said...

Can't get the hang of the "embed" thing !

Doesn't work with the .au in the http link yet. The link is the same either way so just remove the .au bit and it works. IE au.you____ = you___

aus301

QLD

2039 posts

aus301

QLD, 2039 posts

3 Feb 2008 9:56pm

he wouldn't have been smileing if he landed on that fin.

wonder if he apologised to the owner of the windsurfing kit, there is what the thread started about.

nebbian

6277 posts

nebbian

WA, 6277 posts

3 Feb 2008 9:01pm

aus301 said...

And as for it being better and all that, hmm how many times has a kite come close to a wind powered speed record?

Errr... the other day Tilmann heilig did over 50 knots for 500m on his kite, something that we poleys haven't yet quite achieved...

I don't care which is 'better' for anyone else, because windsurfing is better for me. Just like kiting is better for some other people.

And I had a sail today so it's all good

Richiefish

QLD

5612 posts

Richiefish

QLD, 5612 posts

3 Feb 2008 10:02pm

I hope nobody takes this banter too seriously. I mean after all, our planet is riddled with real, serious problems ,whilst we are just a bunch of over fed ,cashed up aussies playing in the water on various toys.

mineral1

4564 posts

mineral1

WA, 4564 posts

3 Feb 2008 9:15pm

Richiefish said...

I hope nobody takes this banter too seriously. I mean after all, our planet is riddled with real, serious problems ,whilst we are just a bunch of over fed ,cashed up aussies playing in the water on various toys.

Nar, this is our second favorite pass time when we are not on the water, we are pulling the pizzzzz out of each other.

[}:)]

If not on here, would be down the pub, at BBQ's or what ever

[}:)]

Cant believe its gone 7 pages

We back each other if somebody gets in the sh1t

Greenroom

7608 posts

Greenroom

WA, 7608 posts

3 Feb 2008 10:01pm

user said...

Big difference Mark.

There is a big difference in the price of a Commodore and a Ferrari !
Your logic is illogical
There are only a few with a couple of hundred thousand dollars to spend on a toy.

If they were about the same price,the ratio of Ferraris would me much higher.
Commodores would still have large numbers because there is always a market for a larger car that carries more people.

Kites and windsurfing gear are basically the same price.So,a difference in user numbers is governed PURELY by choice.

And you know that Kites are really the wind driven version of a Ferrari !

Thats the real logic.

Greenroom,if you think that is the best comment you have read ever, you are very simple !!

You just go fly your Commodore while I sail my simple Ferrari

aido

50 posts

aido

WA, 50 posts

3 Feb 2008 10:02pm

moby disc said

The 'bad' 'rad' attitude which comes from board sports or perhaps delusions caused by substance abuse, has no place when you are sharing the beach with people who don't care or are impressed by you and your hand grabs.

nothing wrong with substance abuse

Wet Willy

TAS

2317 posts

Wet Willy

TAS, 2317 posts

4 Feb 2008 1:36am

Hear hear!!

We should spend some of our money on more serious things!

War, poverty, disease, kitesurfing - are you telling me we can't solve these problems if we all work together???

waveslave

4263 posts

waveslave

WA, 4263 posts

4 Feb 2008 12:24am

user said...

Whats wrong with being Gay ??

lol.
The haters don't love ya, User.
It's nothing personal, you know.
But what they truely despise the most.....
what they detest immensely......
and what they absurdly loathe to absolute excess.......
are your kitelines, mate.
Yep, the strings.
It's that simple.
[Scared rabbits caught in the headlights].
lol.

Mr. No-one

921 posts

Mr. No-one

WA, 921 posts

4 Feb 2008 12:26am

I dig the holden/ferrari theory, it's funny how the smart ones get it

.
Anyway ,I'm looking for a new sport because windsurfing is just to hard. It needs to be easy to learn, cheap like an old holden, can be done in very light wind because strong winds are scary, can be done wearing baggy pants, comes with an air pump that I can use to inflate my girlfriend with, a sport where everyone one the beach will think I'm special and take my photo and it all needs to fit in a big colorful handbag

.
Did I also mention it has to be EXTREME
Don't take this post to seriously

Spotty

VIC

1619 posts

Spotty

VIC, 1619 posts

4 Feb 2008 3:03am

When Kites and Windsurfers Dont Mix Well.....

Heard the low down today about the kiter/windsurfer collision at Inverloch in the last month. Nose of sailboard impacted kiter above groin to stomach region lots of blood lost and stomach etc exited large wound when wetty removed.. This of course resulted in him being airlifted to hospital.

So all, please exercise caution and safety especially when the wind is cranking, kites especially due to the power etc involved, windsurfers err, umm, err ...dont go fast close to others cause it will hurt.

Or if you really want to worry about something and get your back up...... start here

Boris

261 posts

Boris

261 posts

4 Feb 2008 8:28am

user said...

While you are watching us and standing around trying to come up with derogatary names,we are too busy ripping it up !

Only one problem with that. We are all yet to see a kiter "ripping it up". So far its only ever been "talking it up".

Richiefish

QLD

5612 posts

Richiefish

QLD, 5612 posts

4 Feb 2008 10:12am

Boris said...

user said...

While you are watching us and standing around trying to come up with derogatary names,we are too busy ripping it up !

Only one problem with that. We are all yet to see a kiter "ripping it up". So far its only ever been "talking it up".

I hope after you rip it up you put it in the bin.(strings too)

laurie

3889 posts

laurie

WA, 3889 posts

4 Feb 2008 12:39pm

Time to start a new topic, as this one now belongs in the "General" section as it has now diverted off from a simple windsurfing incident to opinions on war, race, sexuality and world order!

Let's not get to serious crew, and lets try and keep on topic.

ENJOY!

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