Osama Bin Laden is Dead!

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Diver
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4 May 2011 1:24pm
Osama was essentially stateless, he was no longer a Saudi Citizen and he wasn't a Pakistani citizen either. He selfishly ensured his own well being and choose to live by his own rules, so why should any set of rules of fairness be applied to him?

Sitting in a compound well within Pakistan meant he could be well away from the action and misery that he helped to create.

The conspiracy theories will grow and the actual details of how this all came to pass will never be fully known.

Without celebrating the death of any human being, I reckon the ends justified the means in dealing with him in the way that they (the US) did.

I will most probably cop a pasting for the above, but my belief is that he had it coming and that that the fight that he was picking was ultimately going to be his undoing.
qwerty
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4 May 2011 4:31pm
Here's your proof of how he was caught. Case closed.


sausage
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4 May 2011 4:43pm
choco said...

"Osama dumped in the ocean?Did they forget what happened with Megatron"....


or more importantly what happened to little Gizmo in Gremlins
japie
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4 May 2011 4:58pm
Spent a lot of time waiting around because of the weather today, and to ease the boredom I turned on the truck radio and tuned into ABC News Radio.

All fecking day they continued to tell me that the reason they have not released any photo's was because it was potentially inflammatory.

They must take our stupidity for granted. I fail to see how showing a photo of Osama Bin Deadawhile can be any more inflammatory than invading Iraq on falsified evidence, occupying Afghanistan for ten years, invading Libya and killing over a million muslims, and supporting Israel in the occupation of Palestine that makes Apartheid proponents look like angels.

As with all of the "investigations" into events surrounding 911 they have got rid of the forensic evidence ASAP.

Now I wonder why that is?

japie
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4 May 2011 5:18pm


BabaORiley
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4 May 2011 3:55pm
100th reply. hip hip hooray
theDoctor
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4 May 2011 6:56pm

it is heartening to see people use their scepticism to question things (exceptions given to die hard dollards the like of pweedas, ginger pomp & co)
GreenPat
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4 May 2011 7:10pm
japie said...

The problem is with the term "conspiracy theorist". It is used so loosely but in an all encompassing manner, to the extent where anyone who is sceptical of what is thrown at us by the mainstream media is labelled a conspiracy theorist.


So is the 'conspiracy theorist' theory a conspiracy?
SomeOtherGuy
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4 May 2011 7:21pm
japie said...

The problem is with the term "conspiracy theorist". It is used so loosely but in an all encompassing manner, to the extent where anyone who is sceptical of what is thrown at us by the mainstream media is labelled a conspiracy theorist.


So... you're saying you'd prefer pweeda's "conspiracy idiot" then?
theDoctor
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4 May 2011 7:21pm
exactly

(Iwas exactlying to greenpat. then someotherguy jumped in)
Poida
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4 May 2011 5:29pm
nebbian said...

Does anyone else think it strange and sickening... that someone has been deliberately killed and the world's leaders are applauding?

Without a fair trial, without a chance to speak...

We're all just a bunch of savages at heart


very "Old Testament" an eye for an eye
he didnt make a lot of friends in the west, considering his work on 911
I try and look at it like he was a casualty of war
japie
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4 May 2011 7:42pm
SomeOtherGuy said...

japie said...

The problem is with the term "conspiracy theorist". It is used so loosely but in an all encompassing manner, to the extent where anyone who is sceptical of what is thrown at us by the mainstream media is labelled a conspiracy theorist.


So... you're saying you'd prefer pweeda's "conspiracy idiot" then?


I am in the fortunate position to know very well what I am. It is therefore irrelevant what anyone calls me, I am used to seeing people come round to my way of thinking.

And it is generally on a time to IQ ratio
poor relative
poor relative
WA
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4 May 2011 6:02pm
I find all this hard to believe.
I find there is little evidence to say he is dead.

I find all those USA'ers in there "our sh!t don't stink" society as bad as the terrorists themselves. To see them shouting cheering and carrying on about the death of someone who has never been brought to trial over the atrocities mildly disturbing to say the least.

It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets.
Voltaire


bjw
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4 May 2011 8:35pm
Unrich Relo

It's a bit harsh to say people celebrating the death of Bin Laden are as bad as a Terrorist who kills hundreds of people.

So should we lock up those celebrating people in Guantanimo Bay?

Not that I don't understand your point, but if a family member of mine was killed in 9/11, Id probably be cheering too.
Mark _australia
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4 May 2011 7:11pm
Went to a coffee shop today and had a Osama Bin Latte

White fluffy head with 2 shots in it
felixdcat
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4 May 2011 7:23pm
This morning, from a cave somewhere in Pakistan, Taliban Minister of
Emigration, Mohammed Omar warned Australia that if military action against
Iraq & Afghanistan continues Taliban authorities will cut off Australia's
supply of Cab Drivers and if this action does not yield sufficient
results, Telstra Customer Service Reps will be next, followed by
Centrelink Officers, Telemarketers and finally, Queensland Doctors.

THIS IS GETTING UGLY!!!!!!




knigit
knigit
WA
319 posts
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4 May 2011 7:42pm
Not really sure how I feel about it all but what were the alternatives?

If they had caught him and put him on trial I suspect that he would have been tried somewhere where he would have fried anyway.

No doubt he's a martyr to some, but the longer and more drawn out his trial and sentance would have been would only have got him more support with fanatics. To me the "freedom fighter" living in a cushy mansion and shot dead in his pj's is a better result than him getting executed later.

They should've just flown a f***ing jumbo into his house, called it an accident and never mentioned that he lived there. At least then we wouldn't have to listen to more conspiracy sh1te*.

*Air crashes linked to increased chemtrail activity...
cranky
cranky
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4 May 2011 8:20pm
One group of terrorists killed the leader of another group of terrorists, business as usual tomorrow.
choco
choco
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4 May 2011 10:07pm
R.I.P Osama Bin Laden- World Hide & Seek Champion 2001-2011
Poida
Poida
WA
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4 May 2011 9:14pm
here's a new conspiracy
just like donald trump did to obama

obama is saying that bin laden is dead just so bin laden will have to reveal himself to prove otherwise, then, they will shoot him.

booyaa
Macroscien
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5 May 2011 1:13am
Who get this $50,000,000 reward?
busterwa
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5 May 2011 12:01am
Macroscien said...

Who get this $50,000,000 reward?




ginger pom
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5 May 2011 8:34am
theDoctor said...


it is heartening to see people use their scepticism to question things (exceptions given to die hard dollards the like of pweedas, ginger pomp & co)



I read the other questions and agreed with them. I haven't repeated any of the quotes that have already been repeated.

Please can you indicate any of my statements above that indicate that I think assassination was the right thing to do....

I love your idiotic definition of skepticism that is based on broadly following what you think....

petermac33
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WA
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5 May 2011 7:25am
had a strange experience last night at sports club.

Canadian guy starts talking to me about obl possible death.

i remember talking to him years ago about evidence in Loose Change documentary, he thought i was off my rocker,so i was not really interested in talking to him about obl.

anyway,i cut to the chase real quick and told him this obl death is all fake and anyway he had nout to do with 911.

to my surprise he agreed with me! then went through the physical evidence proving it was a you know what a .........

funny thing was, just after he left out front door,the bloke running the club who overheard our conversation said 'you know i used to respect that guy,not anymore.'

sums up why so few are willing to go there.



j murray
j murray
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5 May 2011 10:43am

Felix...d...cat, you missed two major points

it now appears we are to get thousands of Indians

to fix the mining shortfall, and we are building them an ,

anfo plant in south australia where they will make explosives

Could this be "Custers last stand" allover agen ???? Scary..
frant
frant
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5 May 2011 1:44pm
petermac33 said...

had a strange experience last night at sports club.

Canadian guy starts talking to me about obl possible death.

i remember talking to him years ago about evidence in Loose Change documentary, he thought i was off my rocker,so i was not really interested in talking to him about obl.

anyway,i cut to the chase real quick and told him this obl death is all fake and anyway he had nout to do with 911.

to my surprise he agreed with me! then went through the physical evidence proving it was a you know what a .........

funny thing was, just after he left out front door,the bloke running the club who overheard our conversation said 'you know i used to respect that guy,not anymore.'

sums up why so few are willing to go there.






Too many party drugs have a known side effect of creating paranoid delusions.

What I really like now is how they shot him in self defence as he was reaching for a weapon. They were just going to cuff him and read him his rights otherwise.
log man
log man
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5 May 2011 7:17pm
cranky said...

One group of terrorists killed the leader of another group of terrorists, business as usual tomorrow.


Bit harsh!! America, a terrorist country, MAN!
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
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5 May 2011 6:10pm
The USA military has unveiled their newly issued bodybags.....
....called the Osama Bin Liner



ginger pom
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5 May 2011 8:23pm
The US isn't exactly blameless. There wasn't much stopping American troops (and private contractors like haliburton) from killing random iraqis, except for American public opinion... which was ambivalent if it meant something to oil prices or house prices.

OBL's death can't be compared to his victims either.

A Going to work on 911 and being killed at your desk by a jet place crashing into your office (unless you were evil because you worked in financial services or unless you believe it was the us government)

B Being killed by armed forces after claiming to have caused the death of civilians. And not as collateral damage, but because you regard them as guilty because of their association with their governments eg 7th July bombings - OBL said that because the UK people re-elected labour then they were to blame for the bombings and therefore deserved it....


The US is pretty bad to be honest but I'm trying to think of a large country (>50m people) that doesn't have a pretty poor record ... any suggestions?

It would have been better if OBL had been taken and tried, but under what law and in what country. That said, shooting an unarmed man to avoid having the complexity of a trial is a pretty poor justification. There would have been an opportunity to find the moral high ground.

That said, at least he died quickly and relatively humanely. A lot of the food we eat would die slower...

My sister works for a charity in London that deals with victims of torture and a lot of their former patients are now employed by the charity. I've met a few of them. There would have been a much easier opportunity to take the moral high ground, while the US was trying to find him. Less extraordinary rendition, less outsourcing of torture to Egypt... Guatanamo bay was a much stronger example of where the US could have been stronger morally. For every person in an orange boiler suit, there was a small shift towards radicalisation of islam - and inevitably this small shift would have taken people over the edge into direct action.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
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5 May 2011 6:38pm
ginger pom said...

That said, shooting an unarmed man to avoid having the complexity of a trial is a pretty poor justification. There would have been an opportunity to find the moral high ground.



How do we know that? They say he was reaching for a weapon and I cannot believe that OBL would not have had an AK47 in reach most of the time.
Maybe he was unarmed, but maybe others were shooting and the US guys went with "spray and pray" to clear the room and he happened to be shot too? Those guys want to go home to their family just like the rest of us. If he was shot by accident I would not care in the slightest as he was pure evil and driven by hatred.

Those who live by the sword....
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