jn1 said...Macroscien said...Did I write anywhere that I want to design board, build, sell at profit to all SB ???Leave me alone ?
I have reread your top post. I don't like what you said about copying (plagiarising) somebodies design and then getting a Chinese manufacturer to make it. It stinks. I am sorry if I have offended, but I just can't shine this ****.
Not at all. Think about that. We could build community board (only one model !)
a) SUP
b) Beginner like Starboard GO
c) Wave Board
d) fancy freestyle board
e)speed board
f) Slalom or free ride board
For me the most desirable is the last one: slalom or freeride
now capacity:
a) 50L - advantage is that need the least materials

b) 80 L - just a sinker for me - so high wind only
c) 110 L - I could do almost everything with size like that - no wind , good wind , strong wind, flat or chop, even waves
d) 150 L -we are entering light wind sailing or very beginner board territory
e) 200L - I think that is just waste of material unless we building SUP or family board to accommodate the whole lot including small dogs on-board
Material used:
( I have seriously no idea how board is build but for example)
-glass over foam
--Carbon fiber - that is my preference as materials are not that expensive in comparison to the rest of production cost
-polypropylene moulded board - like my lovely old big BIC that is indestructable like T35 Russian tank
-Inflatable windsurfer - price may do down up to $20 and you could use as spare bed in family emergency
If we decide to go for slalom board and start shaping and design - what ether we do we come close to very similar shape.
If you paint all top 110 L boards plain WHITE: JP, RRD, Starboard, Carbon Art , Fanatic and few others - to remove any trademarks - I very doubt you will be able to recognize which one is which brand as they all looks very similar now in this optimal shape.
So now if one of our SB members that build boards for top performing racers in his small workshop is willing to share his latest design for our community work - the resultant design will be very similar to all mentioned above.
Which is just perfect for me as I am not looking for any revolution al solution just well performing board design to latest trends.
As I said I am not boat builder , shaper etc. so is not up to me to design the board - I could be mere test rider

and helper to carry heavy boxes or sweeping our production warehouse.
Now is up to you to to say one board do you want and come with concept for a such board

As for overwhelming about killing our retail outlets - this is not a case at all - one averaged board model will not do a dent in their profit - vice versa - many new entrants and enthusiast to shop for all other stuff - sails , fins accessories and then board for specific needs.
IMO at this moment the progress for entering windsurfers from beginer to intermediate at lease is halted by using inadequate equipment at best.
Everybody is ridding what is available on second-hand market at the time - all sorts of bards completely inadequate for skills and conditions.
Ie Wave boards on flat waters - to small -and non performing in light winds
clumsy big boards - that will never teach you proper gibing.
IMO if you put advanced beginner straight from Starbord GO on good modern 110L slalom board , without needs to pass over all stash of outdated boards the progress in skill development will be immediate.
Then after while people could migrate to their favourite speciality board - go on waves, for speed or do jumps and trick.
Possibly that is not a case here in Aussie but in Germany that driving licence is treated much more seriously driving lesson is provided on quite descent cars in carefully controlled manner and normal life condition.
What the result is we all know - nobody is capable of driving 200 km/h legally here.