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Rosscoe
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13 Feb 2012 10:11pm
Team Big Left have entered....
adolf
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13 Feb 2012 7:27pm
Sounds like a great event - good luck with the weather.
Simondo
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13 Feb 2012 10:49pm
We entered 4 paddlers, 3 boards, and a photographer today. So Geelong, Bellarine & Surf Coast have representatives.

And yes, Adolf we will need a tiny amount of luck. But there is a very reasonable chance that the wind co-operate.
DavidJohn
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13 Feb 2012 11:07pm
BruceT said...

footwear?...do you mean I need to buy some Crocs??




I think I'll wear mine.. .. maybe even some compression stockings.. er.. I mean compression socks..

DJ

Bnaccas
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14 Feb 2012 2:03am
Rosscoe said...

Team Big Left have entered....


Am I in that team?
DavidJohn
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14 Feb 2012 8:06am
Bnaccas said...

Rosscoe said...

Team Big Left have entered....


Am I in that team?


Maybe you're in the 'Big Left Over Person' team......... Just kidding..

I've heard that more than 25 of the 50 places got snapped up on the first day.. Don't miss out if you're still keen but haven't got around to doing it yet.

DJ

DavidJohn
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21 Feb 2012 8:50am
There's still plenty of places left for those who are keen but think they may have missed the cut.

Here's some more onfo.

DJ

Dear Mad Paddler,

Congratulations and thank you for registering to be part of history in the first organised SUP crossing of Port Phillip Bay and the longest SUP event in Australia!

We now have 37 paddlers registered - 12 solo individuals and 13 teams. We are capping the event at 50 paddlers (combination of teams and individuals) so please put the word out to your mad paddling friends. Remember the first 50 paddlers that register are entitled to the free Skybus courtesy bus.

The fund raising website is now up and we are encouraging you to put the word out to all your family and friends. We are hoping to raise $25,000 for a mobile ultra sound unit for the Sandringham Hospital Emergency Department. All donations are tax deductible. Every paddler needs to raise a minimum of $250 to qualify for the crossing.

http://www.givenow.com.au/sdmhmadpaddle

Please see the end of this email for a suggested email to family and friends.

The Mad Paddle will finish at the Sandringham Yacht club where we will have a big community BBQ. Your friends and family are welcome to join us. Comedian Tim Smith will be MCing the event . There will be loads of silent auction and live auction items. Please let us know if you would like to donate any items for the auction.

There will be a compulsory briefing at 5.00pm on March 17 in the training room at the Sandringham Yacht club. The briefing will also be available via webcast - more details to follow.

Medical indemnity forms will be sent out next week. These will need to be completed and returned prior to the race.

Let's show how generous Mad Paddlers are and support the cause.

For those of you that registered other people for the paddle, please forward on this email to them

Regards,

The Mad Paddle Organising Committee




Dear family and friends,

On Sunday March 18, I will be paddling across Port Phillip Bay with a bunch of equally Mad Paddlers. Please help me and my fellow paddlers raise $25,000 for a mobile ultra sound unit for the Sandringham Hospital Emergency Department. All donations are tax deductible.

Donations can be made at http://www.givenow.com.au/sdmhmadpaddle

When donating, please complete the "Email Notification" section with my email (so I know when you have donated) and the "Who are you sponsoring" section with my name so that we can track donations by paddler.

The Mad Paddle will finish at the Sandringham Yacht club where we will have a big community BBQ from 12 noon. Family and friends are welcome to join us. Comedian Tim Smith will be MCing the event . There will be loads of silent auction and live auction items.

More details of the Mad Paddle can be found at www.supvic.com/2012-mad-paddle-registrations/

Thanks,
adolf
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21 Feb 2012 9:18am
PTWoody said...

So the plan is for this to be a 40km paddle but the course is entirely wind direction dependent. The only set and non negotiable parameter is the finish, which has to be at Sandringham Yacht Club.



So if it's a howling 30knott North Easterly - what will be the 40km course?

Last time I looked there was no waterway between Ringwood with Sandringham.
PTWoody
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21 Feb 2012 12:33pm
adolf said...

PTWoody said...

So the plan is for this to be a 40km paddle but the course is entirely wind direction dependent. The only set and non negotiable parameter is the finish, which has to be at Sandringham Yacht Club.



So if it's a howling 30knott North Easterly - what will be the 40km course?

Last time I looked there was no waterway between Ringwood with Sandringham.


Anyone for Street SUP?
DavidJohn
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21 Feb 2012 1:00pm
If it's North on the day Port Melb to Sandy is do'able.. If it's a South wind then Frankston to Sandy is do'able.. Even with a howling Nor-Easter St Kilda to Sandy is very do'able.

I'm guessing we will get true Autumn weather and starting early is another good thing.. It's not often windy early.

Someone should arrange a windsurfing comp for that same day.. That's one sure way to get no wind..

DJ
BruceT
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21 Feb 2012 9:22pm
any interstaters joining us?
Serendip
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27 Feb 2012 9:31am
Yep , there will be a combined team,(vic / nsw) Im coming down from Bermagui to team up with a fellow Walk on water paddler living on the bay..
Great idea and a great cause, really looking forward to it.
Deano72
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27 Feb 2012 1:19pm
NSW / Vic combo.....This is going to be awesome!!
Better start training and double the length of the morning paddle
Does anyone know if any safety gear is required by organisers....PFD, etc.??
Didn't notice anything in previous posts.
250 plus litres of polystyrene foam wrapped in fibreglass and connected to your leg should be adequate personal floatation, shouldn't it??
PTWoody
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27 Feb 2012 3:09pm
PFD is mandatory, bring plenty of hydration too.
Serendip
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3 Mar 2012 8:50am
morning All,
I would like a copy of the sponsor letter so I can get it out to my friends, work mates etc to get the $$$$ rolling in, could someone lend a hand with this?
OG SUP
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3 Mar 2012 9:19am
Inbox an email addy and we will get you one

Phill
Deano72
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4 Mar 2012 4:43pm
OG SUP said...

Inbox an email addy and we will get you one

Phill


G'day Phill......is that written in code??
Translation please.

I dropped into the local kayak joint this arvo to get my PFD for the event.
Got the bum bag type.
According to the bloke at the shop and this:
http://www.transportsafety.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0016/45250/TSV-Paddle-Safe-Paddle-Smart-brochure.pdf
Everytime a SUP hits the water in Vicco less than 2 miles from the coast, be it in the surf, bay, lake, river, dam, etc. the rider/s needs to carry the following:
- PFD
- Bailing bucket (cause a SUP is not fitted with a bilge pump)

If more than 2 miles from the coast you also need:
- Waterproof bouyant torch
- 2 Hand held orange smoke signals
- 2 Hand held red distress flares
- Compass
- Spare paddle
- Approved EPIRB

Are the authorities for real......what a load of bulls@%t!!!!
I don't think even a 17'er would carry that much stuff.
Makes some sense for kayaks....but not SUPs.
Are we exempt from all of that gear, except PFD, in the Mad paddle because of the support vessels??

Next time you go SUP surfing make sure you don't forget your PFD and bucket!!
Maybe the bucket could be used as head protection, cause it is useless for anything else.
HumanCartoon
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4 Mar 2012 6:15pm
Deano72 said...

[b]
...Are the authorities for real......what a load of bulls@%t!!!!




Regs are under review, due later in the year. There was a thread on here about it a few weeks' ago. see:

www.seabreeze.com.au/
OG SUP
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4 Mar 2012 11:58pm
Deano72,

No code I meant send me an email (inbox me) for a copy of the Sponorship letter to the previous post!


Phill

Serendip said...

morning All,
I would like a copy of the sponsor letter so I can get it out to my friends, work mates etc to get the $$$$ rolling in, could someone lend a hand with this?



OG SUP
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5 Mar 2012 12:46am
Deano,

Woody would be able to fill you in on details, but I doubt that anyone is enforcing it at this time as it under review and from what I have heard the feedback has been very good and Transport Vic are in consulation with Both SUP Clubs.

To this point I have never seen anyone try to enforce these regs and we SUP surf regularly with people from both Parks and Vic Police!

The inflatable PFDs are a grey area and may or may not meet statutory requirements as they have to be deployed and then inflated which an unconcious person cannot do. I know they didnt meet spec for the Surfing Vic Marathon. If you want to meet regs purchase a paddling PFD.

I believe that if you were pulled up in the 400m or less from the coast "Surf Zone" and your clear intention is to SURF not transit from point A to Point B then your a surf craft, not a self propelled or human powered vessel and that would be simple to argue. Other paddle surfcraft include surf boards, rescue skis/ boards surf skis, OCs, wave skis etc etc.

Outside 400m live the very very grey areas.

Phill

Deano72 said...

OG SUP said...

Inbox an email addy and we will get you one

Phill


G'day Phill......is that written in code??
Translation please.

I dropped into the local kayak joint this arvo to get my PFD for the event.
Got the bum bag type.
According to the bloke at the shop and this:
http://www.transportsafety.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0016/45250/TSV-Paddle-Safe-Paddle-Smart-brochure.pdf
Everytime a SUP hits the water in Vicco less than 2 miles from the coast, be it in the surf, bay, lake, river, dam, etc. the rider/s needs to carry the following:
- PFD

- Bailing bucket (cause a SUP is not fitted with a bilge pump) as a SUP is a self bailing sealed cockpit fitted with permanent internal floatation I believe you would find that a bucket is not required but I could be wrong. Hollow SUP is another grey area.



If more than 2 miles from the coast you also need:
- Waterproof bouyant torch we also carry hi vis strobes
- 2 Hand held orange smoke signals miniflares
- 2 Hand held red distress flares miniflares
- Compass GPS and small ball compass- Spare paddle lay on board and paddle with hands
- Approved EPIRB Great idea dont have one!

I personally (not speaking for a club or anyone else and I dont have any issues nor do I ask anyone else to carry this equipment if they dont want to but kristi and I do) being required for 2miles plus infact I would aslo add floating waterproof UHF or VHF radio and a whistle

On several occassions recently we have had bad weather close in (includes yesterday) and paddlers could easily have lost orientation to shore ( they did and used GPS to realign) or a wind direction change could easily have happened so GPS and or compass is needed for what we do and how we do it!

Are the authorities for real......what a load of bulls@%t!!!!
I don't think even a 17'er would carry that much stuff.
Makes some sense for kayaks....but not SUPs.
Are we exempt from all of that gear, except PFD, in the Mad paddle because of the support vessels??

Next time you go SUP surfing make sure you don't forget your PFD and bucket!!
Maybe the bucket could be used as head protection, cause it is useless for anything else.


Deano72
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NSW
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5 Mar 2012 1:12pm
OG SUP said...


The inflatable PFDs are a grey area and may or may not meet statutory requirements as they have to be deployed and then inflated which an unconcious person cannot do. I know they didnt meet spec for the Surfing Vic Marathon. If you want to meet regs purchase a paddling PFD.
Phill


Thanks Phill
The guy in the kayak shop assured me that the bum bag type inflatable PFD's satisfy the regs.....already bought one.
Surely if they are OK for kayak they are OK for SUP.....you would reckon he knows what he is on about
Interesting Surfing Vic didn't think they were satisfactory.
Can we get an official deffinate determination as to wether on not these types of PFD's will be suitable for the Mad Pallde.....and future events.
No more 'grey'......either they do or don't satisfy the regulations.
No speculation.....something official.
If no one on Sea Breeze can give a deffinate answer I will follow it up with the authorities and let everyone know.
Cheers

OG SUP
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5 Mar 2012 2:29pm
Deano,

shoot PTWoody an email I am sure he can assist.

Regards

Phill

Deano72 said...

OG SUP said...


The inflatable PFDs are a grey area and may or may not meet statutory requirements as they have to be deployed and then inflated which an unconcious person cannot do. I know they didnt meet spec for the Surfing Vic Marathon. If you want to meet regs purchase a paddling PFD.
Phill


Thanks Phill
The guy in the kayak shop assured me that the bum bag type inflatable PFD's satisfy the regs.....already bought one.
Surely if they are OK for kayak they are OK for SUP.....you would reckon he knows what he is on about
Interesting Surfing Vic didn't think they were satisfactory.
Can we get an official deffinate determination as to wether on not these types of PFD's will be suitable for the Mad Pallde.....and future events.
No more 'grey'......either they do or don't satisfy the regulations.
No speculation.....something official.
If no one on Sea Breeze can give a deffinate answer I will follow it up with the authorities and let everyone know.
Cheers




Deano72
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5 Mar 2012 2:47pm
Thanks again Phill
I have sent an email to Transport Safety for an official determination.
May as well get it direct from the authority.
Will post their response on here when and if I get one.

EDIT
NO I WONT!!
Refer race organisers.
PTWoody
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5 Mar 2012 3:10pm
Deano you are stirring up a hornets nest here. For 12 months, a Victorian SUP safety advisory committee, under the auspices of Surfing Victoria has been working with Transport Safety Victoria towards a favourable outcome for when the new marine safety regulations come into affect mid year. Can you please, PLEASE contact me privately before posting any response from government sources?

Also, it doesn't matter what a bloke in a kayak shop says about PFDs, if Surfing Victoria decides for their race that you cannot wear a bumbag PFD, then bad luck, they make the rules for their race. If the law of the land requires more stringent safety requirements, then so be it, but when it's an event organiser insisting on the greater safety requirements, that's something you have to cop if you want to enter an event. It's not a grey area. If I, as a race director am required to sign off on the safety of a number of competitors as they head out to sea, then I'm not going to accept the argument of a bloke in a kayak shop.

The technical directors of the Mad Paddle will determine whether or not bumbag PFDs are acceptable for this event. They will be discussing this matter in the next day or two and they will make known their decision.
Deano72
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5 Mar 2012 3:40pm
Thanks PTWoody.....fair response.
I apologise to all involved for 'stirring'......I didn't realise this was such a contentious issue having not trawled through old threads on the subject.
Now that I have read some of the earlier stuff, I have a better understanding.
I look forward to hearing of the tech directors verdict and there one day being a general concensus amongst the many authorities as to requirements.
Cheers
JonathanC
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6 Mar 2012 11:17pm
In response to the queries about pfd' s, any type 1 2 or 3 rated pfd will be acceptable for the Mad Paddle. That includes bum bag inflatable style pfd's, the only requirement is that they meet the relevant Australian Standards and are labelled as such.

We will be paddling in groups of about 10 paddlers and sticking together, each group will be accompanied by a support boat.

The fleet will be shadowed by a Coast Guard Launch with two medico's on board. There will never be a safer way to do the 'crossing'.

Anyone still waiting and thinking about it...come on, it will be a fantastic day.

If you are worried about the distance, enter as a team and we will match you up with someone to complement your skill and speed. Many of the teams consist of a strong paddler and a not so strong paddler to spread the load.

If a team or individual is struggling we will do the best we can to help them make the distance, even throw a strong paddler onto their board for a while to help keep things moving along.

This is a fundraising event and most definitely not a race, the aim is to make it fun for everyone that enters.
Duckbits
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7 Mar 2012 6:13pm
I'm glad about the bumbag type pfd as I just had mine serviced and certified.
I have tried paddling in all manner of other PFDs and the bumbag type is the only sort that I can actually paddle in.
(I should probably add that I'm a PRONE paddleboarder!)
(many of you probably would recognise me)
and YES I'm in. I will be joining you on this mad mad paddle AND I'm not the only loony on my knees this time :)
Btw will the support boats be carrying any extra water or do we have to carry our our full supply?
OG SUP
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7 Mar 2012 6:16pm
Hey Woody and JC,

How can we get a certified receipt to those who pay cash?

Phill
JonathanC
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7 Mar 2012 8:59pm
Duckbits said...

I'm glad about the bumbag type pfd as I just had mine serviced and certified.
I have tried paddling in all manner of other PFDs and the bumbag type is the only sort that I can actually paddle in.
(I should probably add that I'm a PRONE paddleboarder!)
(many of you probably would recognise me)
and YES I'm in. I will be joining you on this mad mad paddle AND I'm not the only loony on my knees this time :)
Btw will the support boats be carrying any extra water or do we have to carry our our full supply?



Hey Duckbits, boats can carry extra water or whatever you need..bandaids for your knees

JonathanC
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7 Mar 2012 9:01pm
OG SUP said...

Hey Woody and JC,

How can we get a certified receipt to those who pay cash?

Phill


Hi Phil, preference would be to make donations through the website but if that doesn't work - no problem to create a receipt on SUP Vic letterhead.

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