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FreeFerty

NSW

169 posts

FreeFerty

NSW, 169 posts

6 Jul 2008 3:19am

If this shows some people that more hold down is a good thing then next they will go to full boot. Its like boots=unix but straps=windows xp perohas these "backless bindings" are the os X that makes people realise straps are shinn anf something better is out there.

KiteAction

QLD

337 posts

KiteAction

QLD, 337 posts

6 Jul 2008 10:49am

Rowdy

give it up mate.

most of us just want to kiteboard and wakeboard and have fun without guys like you telling us that this is lame or this is not really that and you shouldnt call that this and if you do your gay ra ra ra...

sounds to me like youv lost the stoke

shame for you really I gusse???

It must suck having to worrie about all this "style" **** all the time.

anyway its windy so im out of here!

Cabron

QLD

363 posts

Cabron

QLD, 363 posts

6 Jul 2008 10:58am

Yes, Tried them....Fkn Amazing for comfort, foot coverage, support and even warmth on these winter days(believe it or not)...etc....however Yes you do feel a bit locked in for board offs etc, you just have to run them a little loose, and no problem. You can even adjust while riding. If you don't tuck the lace in, it annoys me to feel it flapping around, easy, reach dowwn and tuck it in

Downside, your toes get less sun, so less Zebra tanned toes this summer!!!

Stop ya whinging and try a set and make up your own mind, some people might not like the locked in feeling, fair enough, however if you don't like comfort, strap a piece of 1" webbing between two self-drilling screws on your board, and be done with it....plenty of foot tan then

Josh K

QLD

318 posts

Josh K

QLD, 318 posts

6 Jul 2008 11:17am

i like saffers post lol.

Kitepower Australia

NSW

4382 posts

Kitepower Australia

NSW, 4382 posts

6 Jul 2008 11:36am

No doubt about it, they are bindings, check how much of my beautiful foot they cover.

@Saffer
The only guys heard arguing these days in kite shops or on the beach when everyone else is out kiting is "wake"/"boot" riders.
They are aguing about the names of tricks, because none of them can remember the original names, and it doesn't matter to anyone except those that are locked in the IRON grip of cool (to quote Mr Walker).

And go into a wakeboard shop and ask for bindings, then stand back and get ready to answer fifty questions about what type you want!!

sir ROWDY

5378 posts

sir ROWDY

WA, 5378 posts

6 Jul 2008 10:52am

Hey kite action and a few others, i think you are missing what i am getting at. its the naming of the thing not the actual thing that i was saying is gay (although these things do look pretty silly) i love going fly boarding so there is no problem there ethier

Whatever floats your boat really, i think most you guys on here read to much into some posts, i am not about hating anybody, everyone is entiltled to ride exactly how they want. But when things get stupid im gonna step in and give my words, afterall its a forum it would be pretty boring if everyone just agreed and let the stupid stuff slide.

Hey to the pictures above it looks like you could use a smaller size?? you toes arent even making use of the toe ridge thing.

p.s. Hey kitepower, wrong again. it was aaron hadlow and his strapper buddys that started renaming things, the boot crew gave him **** for doing it from the very start. Now it looks like he has stopped it and at the same time realised wakestyle with boots is the future

EVERYONE: read saffers post before replying. It shows you why names are important, and is exactly what im getting at.

Kitepower Australia

NSW

4382 posts

Kitepower Australia

NSW, 4382 posts

6 Jul 2008 2:19pm

sir ROWDY said...

Hey kite action and a few others, i think you are missing what i am getting at. its the naming of the thing not the actual thing that i was saying is gay (although these things do look pretty silly) i love going fly boarding so there is no problem there ethier

EVERYONE: read saffers post before replying. It shows you why names are important, and is exactly what im getting at.

Saffers post is just as pointless and boring as yours, sorry mate, doubt anyone cares about what they are called really or if you think I'm always wrong, IMO.
Nor does anyone care who you blame for the silly renaming thing, its still going on and youse are still arguing over nothing.

But heaps of people are real keen to try them, because they are a significant improvement over all current straps and pads.

Yep, my feet are dainty and small (but beautiful too), and I may need the smaller size. When I was riding, my was more forward than in the pic and I could feel the toe rail.
I could adjust the Sync bindings so that I could not kick the board off, but it was still comfy, just a bit harder to get them on/water start.

What is it about most wakeboot kiters?
Their attitude is so stiff, and they always talk and ride like they are totally up themselves??
Are the boots too tight or are they in pain?
Enquiring minds need to know!

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

sir ROWDY

5378 posts

sir ROWDY

WA, 5378 posts

6 Jul 2008 1:05pm

hahahahahhaha. awesome.

Spacemonkey!

2288 posts

Spacemonkey!

SA, 2288 posts

6 Jul 2008 3:41pm

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Kitepower Australia said...
They are able to be ordered by Cabrinha dealers now, although there is no stock in shops yet.
These will be one of the hottest items this summer, and will fit any board, must be used together.

Excellent video presentation here
www.cabrinhakites.com/

Full pricing details and product description here
www.kitepower.com.au/catalog/product_17393_Cabrinha_Sync__Backless_Bindings_cat_355.html

Any questions, ask away.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

Kitepower Australia said...
$149 a pair

Some of you bootboys really need to lighten up and stop sweating the little stuff, besides you guys are the ones that are famous for renaming things!! LOL's

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

For someone accusing people of being uptight about naming things incorrectly why are you soo dead set on calling them bindings when they are obviously straps. I mean if you don't really care what they are then why not settle and call them straps or is it becuase bindings are the flavour of the month and you want the straps to be seen as bindings. By posting this I just knocked you right back up to the top of the page, it is a shame.

I don't have any problem with the product, your business or you yourself but no doubt you will see this as an attack on all the above when all I am doing is disagreeing with a product label. Also this thread is a blatant pimp. See bolded.

vader

NSW

418 posts

vader

NSW, 418 posts

6 Jul 2008 4:11pm

there are alot of people out there that complain about there feet slipping out because of narrow feet and high arches .to me this looks like a great option for the flat fat footed impaired like me. i`d give em ago before making any comment! some people are narrow minded and bag things out if they look a little different. there loss i think.

Josh K

QLD

318 posts

Josh K

QLD, 318 posts

6 Jul 2008 4:17pm

kitepower bloke......

insults wont sell ur strap. lol

angie pangi

QLD

1782 posts

angie pangi

QLD, 1782 posts

6 Jul 2008 4:20pm

Footstraps or bindings?! Who cares really. Def not my kind of thing but thats just my opinion.
I perfer the option of being able to release my feet out of my straps when i want.
This kind of strap/binding has been around before, what makes these ones so special? And why are people getting so angery at eachother about them.

We all need some wind

XX angie

kitecrazzzy

2184 posts

kitecrazzzy

WA, 2184 posts

6 Jul 2008 2:38pm

that look like a good strap, they are a good imitation of LF's straps but called a binding, i disagree with their classification as this is the accepted terminology

Binding, elasticated straps around the liner to give full support of the foot.

Boots, Lace up with a ridged outer layer that supports the whole foot. Open toe or closed

Straps, you know what they are

Straps with heel thing [fittingly taken from a chicks website]

now those are the best of the three options, your so called binding is a strap. Calling them anything else is just stupid, like calling a vapour a bow, it isn't. It is a hybrid, the turbo and X-bow are real bows. Using the wrong terminology to cash in on the recent surge in binding use is annoying and your continual defence of it is the reason for all the negative responses to it... it doesn't even have a heel strap

user

1140 posts

user

WA, 1140 posts

6 Jul 2008 3:40pm

OK.

I don't have anything better to do ,so here goes:

Technically, it is the wake boarders that have changed the name of something !

i.e. referring to boots as "bindings"

The term "bindings" comes from skiing,and refers to the part on the ski that holds the boot on. Not the boot itself.

The history can be traced back to the 19th Century !

"Modern ski bindings are based on the Fennoscandian model of the 19th century. "

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ski_binding

Its obvious that the boots on snowboards came to be known as bindings,instead of the part that actually clips the boot on,or "binds" the boot to the board.

This then flowed on to Wake boarding. Even though the boot is fixed to the board.

poor relative

9106 posts

poor relative

WA, 9106 posts

6 Jul 2008 3:40pm

They are not boots these are boots

They are not straps these are straps

They are not bindins these are bindings

I wonder what they are ?

elemental

NSW

165 posts

elemental

NSW, 165 posts

6 Jul 2008 7:01pm

What about lace up slippers!

Saffer

VIC

4501 posts

Saffer

VIC, 4501 posts

6 Jul 2008 8:42pm

Kitepower Australia said...
@Saffer
The only guys heard arguing these days in kite shops or on the beach when everyone else is out kiting is "wake"/"boot" riders.
They are aguing about the names of tricks, because none of them can remember the original names, and it doesn't matter to anyone except those that are locked in the IRON grip of cool (to quote Mr Walker).

You can call it the iron grip of margeret thatcher for all I care, but its still just a wider copy of the LF Comp Straps and still friggen straps, not bindings. Nothing revolutionary, probably very comfortable and very nice, but still straps.

Naming conventions are there for a reason, trying to keep standards so people actually know what everyone is talking about. Ask anyone what bindings are and they'll point to a pair of wake style bindings and ask anyone what they think the cab straps are and they'll say straps. Cabrinha can fool themselves into thinking they're bindings but they are not. There is already enough confusion in the motor industry because the idiots call stability control 45 different names simply because someone tweaks the thing a little and makes one wheel turn 5% slower and suddenly its now active stability control instead of plain old stability control, is that really how you want to see kiting? Before you know it every idiot will be calling any twintip with an extra fin a surfboard and a chicken loop an "active anchoring stability device" or some other crap like that. Is it really that hard to call a spade a spade? Or do you want to refer to them as long handled flat ended shovelling devices?

waveslave

4263 posts

waveslave

WA, 4263 posts

6 Jul 2008 8:19pm

Kitepower Australia said...

Strap.....Binding....whatever.
I'm no flatwater bandit........
but I reckon what you need for that stuff is a boot.
A positive connection to the board that incorporates a heel....
A back.
This backless Jesus sandal is softcock.

greenleader

QLD

5283 posts

greenleader

QLD, 5283 posts

6 Jul 2008 11:39pm

i've seen 20 guys use them and i've seen 20 guys actually like them.

now i've also seen a few guys bag the living sh1z out of them who have never even smelt them.

i like them.

every other kite company in the world is now waiting to get their hands on them to copy them!

kite baggers are traditionally the two liners who paid out on "chicken chokers" wakey wakey! (not even

at least 2 line wakers held out until there were no two line kites left to buy!

)
anyone heard about progress?

sir ROWDY

5378 posts

sir ROWDY

WA, 5378 posts

6 Jul 2008 9:46pm

this is perfect

felixk

QLD

312 posts

felixk

QLD, 312 posts

6 Jul 2008 11:46pm

greenleader said...

i've seen 20 guys use them and i've seen 20 guys actually like them.

now i've also seen a few guys bag the living sh1z out of them who have never even smelt them.

i like them.

every other kite company in the world is now waiting to get their hands on them to copy them!

kite baggers are traditionally the two liners who paid out on "chicken chokers" wakey wakey! (not even

at least 2 line wakers held out until there were no two line kites left to buy!

)
anyone heard about progress?

I don't think the argument here is about whether they are comfy or not... The simple fact is that Cabrinha is calling something that is obviously a strap a binding. Im sure they are a very nice piece of equipment and can definetly see how they would be better than a conventional strap but they are not a binding!

Kitepower Australia

NSW

4382 posts

Kitepower Australia

NSW, 4382 posts

6 Jul 2008 11:59pm

Laurie, I want to nominate Saffer and Spacemonkey and the forum Naming Police, surely this would be a better place and world if we had our very own Naming Police.

I think PR and User should get an honourable mention too, User for keeping it real and posting the facts about the root of the term binding and highlighting once again that the wake boys are the real criminals when it come to name rebirthing.

PR just because he has enlightened us all on what the various names of things are, except the last pic looks like really old smelly books.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

PS @ Angie - they are easy or less easy to get your foot out of, its completely up to the rider to choose the level of tightness, but even the looser setting will still give more support than a conventional strap.

They are not a copy of the LF strap ( which has inherent design flaws ), these are a completely new idea and design. The sides and the top of the BINDING adjust to fit your foot like a glove.

kitecrazzzy

2184 posts

kitecrazzzy

WA, 2184 posts

6 Jul 2008 10:24pm

wakestylers can name what ever they want what ever they want and this one they call gay, yes it's a very over used name for basically everything wakers see but there is a difference... they are not falsely advertising as they are not actually selling anything.

teabagg

NSW

141 posts

teabagg

NSW, 141 posts

7 Jul 2008 12:42am

a rose by any other name would smell as sweet....
... or a binding/strap by any other name would still attach to your feet...

Saffer

VIC

4501 posts

Saffer

VIC, 4501 posts

7 Jul 2008 9:26am

Kitepower Australia said...

Laurie, I want to nominate Saffer and Spacemonkey and the forum Naming Police, surely this would be a better place and world if we had our very own Naming Police.

I think PR and User should get an honourable mention too, User for keeping it real and posting the facts about the root of the term binding and highlighting once again that the wake boys are the real criminals when it come to name rebirthing.

PR just because he has enlightened us all on what the various names of things are, except the last pic looks like really old smelly books.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

PS @ Angie - they are easy or less easy to get your foot out of, its completely up to the rider to choose the level of tightness, but even the looser setting will still give more support than a conventional strap.

They are not a copy of the LF strap ( which has inherent design flaws ), these are a completely new idea and design. The sides and the top of the BINDING adjust to fit your foot like a glove.

Come on Steve, for once get off the Cabrinha pimp train and come back to reality. I think Pete could tell the latest 9m has more low end than a FS SA2 19m and you'd come sprout it here parrot fashion. You can't tell me you honestly think they are bindings, and if you do, then I feel sorry for you. If you'd said at the beginning "Yes, I agree its a strap" you would have ended all this ****. Instead you insisted on going off and getting dictionary definitions of words to try backup your bull**** argument which you know is crap. You can argue what you want about the terms, but get a reality check, 99% of kiters know what a real binding is and they definitely aren't going to point at the Cabrinha strap when the reference comes up, so why the #&$$ are you trying to back it up?

Your ranting and raving has done you no favours. As usual, you've lost more potential customers here, I ride straps and I'm now 100% sure I won't be trying the Cabrinha's after your crap attitude.

The LF was the most comfy of last years strap, if its not a copy, whats with the laceup? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that they started with the Comp and changed it from there. Can you honestly say they went back to the drawing board and came up with the lace up concept on their own? Thats like saying the Waroo was never based on the original bow concept and that Best went off designing a C and came up with it on their own as well.

KiteAction

QLD

337 posts

KiteAction

QLD, 337 posts

7 Jul 2008 9:45am

They way I have been explaining them to my customers is not to think of them as a "binding" as such and more that they are an improvement on a foot strap.

Kitepower Australia

NSW

4382 posts

Kitepower Australia

NSW, 4382 posts

7 Jul 2008 11:31am

Saffer, sounds like suffer you know?
They are bindings (they could be straps!! or even sandals), however, thats what I am going to call them, because thats what Cab ( www.cabrinhakites.com/ )call them and thats what I have to call them when I order the things, ok?

You can call them painintheheads, I really don't care, ok?

Saffer said...
Your ranting and raving has done you no favours. As usual, you've lost more potential customers here, I ride straps and I'm now 100% sure I won't be trying the Cabrinha's after your crap attitude.

Thats says a lot about you, much, much more than it does about me.

Are you serious about the lace up thing??
So anything with laces owes its design origin to the LF comp strap?
Wonder if people in the shoe business would agree??

What about those lace up things that women wore 200 years ago? Ah forget it, they must have seen an early LF Comp strap.

You need to broaden your pimp perspective, look at the picture closely, can you honestly say that the LF comp and the Sync BINDING are the same, or that the Sync is a direct copy (or even similar)??

So you don't like Cabrinha, join the back of the farqueue.
Maybe drop the effort for the other team and let us who want to talk about these new BINDINGS get on with it.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

Macca Wollongong

NSW

295 posts

Macca Wollongong

NSW, 295 posts

7 Jul 2008 12:37pm

steve what size is your foot?

they look alot larger than i imagined they would be

Saffer

VIC

4501 posts

Saffer

VIC, 4501 posts

7 Jul 2008 1:42pm

Kitepower Australia said...

Saffer, sounds like suffer you know?
They are bindings (they could be straps!! or even sandals), however, thats what I am going to call them, because thats what Cab ( www.cabrinhakites.com/ )call them and thats what I have to call them when I order the things, ok?

Sorry Steve, they are not bindings, if you feel the need to call them bindings then I feel sorry for you. If flysurfer called their foils bow kites would you call them that just because the manufacturer do?

As i said before, they are really nice straps, probably the best on the market right now, but they are straps, take the back off a set of bindings and they look nothing like these.

Kitepower Australia said...

Are you serious about the lace up thing??
So anything with laces owes its design origin to the LF comp strap?
Wonder if people in the shoe business would agree??

What about those lace up things that women wore 200 years ago? Ah forget it, they must have seen an early LF Comp strap.

Actually yes. Anything with laceups with straps on a probably kiteboard do. Lets put this into perspective, using laces with straps in kiteboarding is unique. Every manufacturer has been bringing out straps using velcro or screws for the last 7 or 8 years, LF brings out lace ups that work really well and you are trying to tell me that it just happens to be co-incidence that Cabrinha brought a similar design out a year later? You also trying to tell me that Cabrinha don't check out opposition products to see where they can improve on their own? Yeah right!

Kitepower Australia

NSW

4382 posts

Kitepower Australia

NSW, 4382 posts

7 Jul 2008 2:03pm

Flysurfer could not and would not call one of their foil kites a bow kite, very poor anology Saffer, Naming Police HQ, will be notified of your retarded effort.

The Sync's easily fit within the definition of the word binding and the term commonly accepted in watersports as a binding.
A boot is not the only thing that has ever been called a binding.

NSI, actually called their laced, dial tightened contraption, a binding too, they were miles ahead of the beloved wake origin LF brand creation (LF Comps).
Yep the NSI Binding was the original I think, not LF!!

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

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