japie said..

D3 said..
Who is still banking their Covid treatment hopes on ivermectin?

Yup

Looks like it has a role to play along with vaccines, good hygiene, mask wearing, healthy living etc what kami" mentioned in Japan). But there's no money in a non patent decades in use, drug.

It needs to be in the conversation at the very least but alas it is not for obvious reasons (serious amounts of cencorship).
This is not a conspiracy theory it's just the practicalities of business and big pharma are in business game of maximising profits - and so they should be.


Without profit based innovation the drive to develop new drugs would not eventuate. I've experienced this personally looking at treatments for my sons condition. American options make Australia look they are still in the Stone Age. No matter what you think about our US brothers, sisters and "they's", they get sh1t done.


that's the reality of the two edge sword world we live in.

For anybody that is wondering what the point of vaccination is, or with an interest in how this virus works you should watch this

iview.abc.net.au/show/cracking-covid

micksmith said..

And this is the kind of totalitarian socialism bull**** that's going to happen more and more. Governments taking away our freedom

no mate that's the goverment trying to keep you and every one else safe! As simple as that!

And if you think this is socialism than you obviously have noooo idea what are you talking about.

D3 said..
Have you looked atbother countries? Like one of our closest neighbours? Whom we have a large tourist link with?

They're definitely past the threshold

NZ? They have very low exposure to the virus though, shutting both the international airports almost immediately, so if they don't lockdown it may well rip through the population. The government has backed itself into a corner by pursuing an eradication policy, as they'll have to keep locking down and closing borders. Without an effective vaccine, they've killed international travel.

japie said..
Two interesting videos of Pete McCollough giving testimony. First one to Texas senate way back when, the second about a month back speaking to Reiner Fuellmich.

www.bitchute.com/video/rKP61hruGxIt/

Sorry Japie but Peter McCollough comments have been proven inaccurate and misleading.
healthfeedback.org/claimreview/vaccines-are-a-safer-alternative-for-acquiring-immunity-compared-to-natural-infection-and-covid-19-survivors-benefit-from-getting-vaccinated-contrary-to-claims-by-peter-mccullough/

gs12 said..

micksmith said..

And this is the kind of totalitarian socialism bull**** that's going to happen more and more. Governments taking away our freedom

no mate that's the goverment trying to keep you and every one else safe! As simple as that!

And if you think this is socialism than you obviously have noooo idea what are you talking about.

You can fool some of the people

Interesting fact, roughly $20 a shot of Pfizer or astra Z , 12cents a shot for Ivermectin. Now before you get on your high horses let it be known I have nothing against vaccination, what I do object to is deception.
Why is it the health authorities can't agree on so many issues regarding the vaccines, why is it that a vaccine used for decades for several medical issues is frowned upon? Could it possibly be that Ivermectin now free of patent doesn't bring enough $$$$, could it be that simple. I have read some states within India are using Ivermectin with startling results in the way of recovery and prevention. I have also heard ( but not confirmed) the same use in Kenya, with the same outcome.

Kamikuza said..

Safe from... what? They don't care about other infectious diseases, but suddenly this is a bridge too far...? I guess you'll be cool with flu season lockdowns when that rolls around next, huh?

uhm I don't know, like people dying?

I still have lot of friends and family in Europe. Lot of them got covid earlier this year.
A relative (a male in early forties) has been in intensive care for almost 4 months and is likely going to die. Several friends of the same age as me are still recovering 2-3 months later.
I work in IT and lot of our support teams are based out of India - I hear almost weekly that someone lost a relative. Seasonal flu does not do this.
If that is not good enough reason to get vaccinated and wear a mask, I don't know what is.

Look, to be honest I don't like the restrictions either and I think government should push much harder for people to get vaccinated.
And those who choose not to, well you make your own choices but you should understand the risk and bear the consequences.

gs12 said..

micksmith said..

And this is the kind of totalitarian socialism bull**** that's going to happen more and more. Governments taking away our freedom

no mate that's the goverment trying to keep you and every one else safe! As simple as that!

And if you think this is socialism than you obviously have noooo idea what are you talking about.

Dear me are you that naive. Read your history books and just for the record Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny are not real. Governments are interested in one thing and one thing only - keeping power. There may be a side affect though of "keeping us safe". But it never has and never will be their primary motivation


But In all fairness, I feel a combination of all approaches (including ivermectin), masks, vaccines, health education ,coordinated and well built centres for international and state travel to resume.



lock downs are an easy sell, politically sensible but do more damage than good to the populations health and well being and also the economy (which are intrinsically linked).

what's not happening is an open discussion about such matters. The social media giants and cutting off any discussion from those that don't fall in the line with the current doctrine by a health system very vulnerable to capture and manipulation.

Novavax 51 million doses by year end . why is this not being talked about ? It seems to have the least side affects

And here was me thinking HW and the hard done by one who's name can only be whispered had been condemned to the wilderness. . . .
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Guess not. . . .

Rupert said..
And here was me thinking HW and the hard done by one who's name can only be whispered had been condemned to the wilderness.

Psst -- you can always choose not to click

Something for the Pro Ivermectiner's to look

www.medscape.com/viewarticle/954681 www.medscape.com/viewarticle/954681

Looking at the real Data not Just MetaData
micksmith
If your paying 12c a dose for Ivermectin you have got veterinary grade
Better make sure you get the dosage right for you body weight.
At the very least you will have no parasites living in you

Delta is a different breed and I doubt the premier has the stupidity to do what's required.

The protests start.
abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/france-visitors-indian-made-astrazeneca-vaccine-78899114