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Created by remery > 9 months ago, 3 Jul 2024
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FormulaNova
WA, 15086 posts
3 Oct 2024 11:23AM
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japie said..
Pratt is a pommie thing. Might be prat. The boarding school was the boarding school from hell. St Michaels in Soni. Run by the Rosminian order. It features on the internet.

Kiddy fiddlers. Hence my interest in things depraved and the motivations for.


Yeah, I remember you mentioning something about the place. I suspect it was common in some of these places around the world. It happened in Aus as well.

Pcdefender
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3 Oct 2024 12:56PM
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lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/52-scientists-and-academics-excessive

The Australian Government should immediately suspend the use of Pfizer and Moderna Covid vaccines due to accumulating evidence of high levels of synthetic DNA contamination in the shots, which present a "substantial risk" of genomic integration and long-term health impacts, including cancers, say leading scientists and academics.

In a letter to Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, Russell Broadbent, independent MP for the federal seat of Monash, said that "immediate action through a suspension of these products is critical to mitigate further risk", after independent testing of Australian vials of modified RNA (mod-RNA) Covid vaccines detected residual synthetic DNA at levels up to 145 above the legal limit.

The letter, circulated to all Australian MPs and Senators, is co-signed by 52 scientists and academics, many at the top of their fields, including Professor of Oncology Angus Dalgleish, Emeritus Professor Wendy Hoy, an expert in chronic disease, Emeritus Professor Robert Clancy, an immunologist who developed a bronchitis vaccine, geneticist Professor Alexandra Henrion Caude and microbiologist Professor Sucharit Bhakdi MD.

psychojoe
WA, 2235 posts
3 Oct 2024 2:51PM
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Pcdefender said..
lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/52-scientists-and-academics-excessive

The Australian Government should immediately suspend the use of Pfizer and Moderna Covid vaccines due to accumulating evidence of high levels of synthetic DNA contamination in the shots, which present a "substantial risk" of genomic integration and long-term health impacts, including cancers, say leading scientists and academics.

In a letter to Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, Russell Broadbent, independent MP for the federal seat of Monash, said that "immediate action through a suspension of these products is critical to mitigate further risk", after independent testing of Australian vials of modified RNA (mod-RNA) Covid vaccines detected residual synthetic DNA at levels up to 145 above the legal limit.

The letter, circulated to all Australian MPs and Senators, is co-signed by 52 scientists and academics, many at the top of their fields, including Professor of Oncology Angus Dalgleish, Emeritus Professor Wendy Hoy, an expert in chronic disease, Emeritus Professor Robert Clancy, an immunologist who developed a bronchitis vaccine, geneticist Professor Alexandra Henrion Caude and microbiologist Professor Sucharit Bhakdi MD.


I've never heard of this bronchitis vaccine. Can you post a link?

Pcdefender
WA, 1607 posts
3 Oct 2024 3:30PM
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Did you look at the link to the video i posted around 3 days ago?

Carantoc
WA, 7188 posts
3 Oct 2024 7:49PM
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FormulaNova said..
In English, capitalising something often means its a proper noun, i.e. a name. The clear use of "Pratt" in this context, with two tees has both a capital and the wrong spelling of 'prat'. Maybe Japie has someone he has had history with called 'Pratt'? Who knows.

I watch enough English TV programs to know what the word 'prat' means.


I don't mean to be a pedant but ...... WHAM .......FormulaNova just stole my crown.

Legendary move. Gotta give 'im 11/10 for that.

Carantoc
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3 Oct 2024 7:52PM
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fangman said..
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I am just not sure how to judge the comp. Ideas anyone?
It probably needs some CAPS LOCK, use of 'their' and a lol or two, but other than that I am open to suggestions.


I got an idea.

Carantoc won.

Carantoc
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3 Oct 2024 7:58PM
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D3 said..
And yet, she's invited as some kind of expert to participate in a Congressional Roundtable on American Health and Nutrition.
In fact, most of the people invited don't have qualifications or expertise in Health and Nutrition (there was at least one MD and a couple of Psychs), instead most of them are on-line "Wellness" personaloties selling their onwn brands of unregulated (and generally unproven) supplements.


Meh. Greta got an invite to the UN to tell the whole world exactly what we must all do for the next 50 years.And that was based just on her ability to skip skool. And no roundtable discussion, just a rant.


remery
WA, 3709 posts
3 Oct 2024 9:14PM
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Ignorant dross pretending to be smart is almost as funny as watching Fawlty Towers.

Pcdefender
WA, 1607 posts
3 Oct 2024 10:00PM
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Kill the mis info bill


D3
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4 Oct 2024 4:20AM
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Carantoc said..

D3 said..
And yet, she's invited as some kind of expert to participate in a Congressional Roundtable on American Health and Nutrition.
In fact, most of the people invited don't have qualifications or expertise in Health and Nutrition (there was at least one MD and a couple of Psychs), instead most of them are on-line "Wellness" personaloties selling their onwn brands of unregulated (and generally unproven) supplements.



Meh. Greta got an invite to the UN to tell the whole world exactly what we must all do for the next 50 years.And that was based just on her ability to skip skool. And no roundtable discussion, just a rant.




Were there any actual experts in attendance?
Or was it all just opionated rants?

D3
WA, 1506 posts
4 Oct 2024 5:04AM
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Carantoc said..

D3 said..
And yet, she's invited as some kind of expert to participate in a Congressional Roundtable on American Health and Nutrition.
In fact, most of the people invited don't have qualifications or expertise in Health and Nutrition (there was at least one MD and a couple of Psychs), instead most of them are on-line "Wellness" personaloties selling their onwn brands of unregulated (and generally unproven) supplements.



Meh. Greta got an invite to the UN to tell the whole world exactly what we must all do for the next 50 years.And that was based just on her ability to skip skool. And no roundtable discussion, just a rant.




Is this irony?





japie
NSW, 7145 posts
4 Oct 2024 7:58AM
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Pcdefender said..
lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/52-scientists-and-academics-excessive

The Australian Government should immediately suspend the use of Pfizer and Moderna Covid vaccines due to accumulating evidence of high levels of synthetic DNA contamination in the shots, which present a "substantial risk" of genomic integration and long-term health impacts, including cancers, say leading scientists and academics.

In a letter to Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, Russell Broadbent, independent MP for the federal seat of Monash, said that "immediate action through a suspension of these products is critical to mitigate further risk", after independent testing of Australian vials of modified RNA (mod-RNA) Covid vaccines detected residual synthetic DNA at levels up to 145 above the legal limit.

The letter, circulated to all Australian MPs and Senators, is co-signed by 52 scientists and academics, many at the top of their fields, including Professor of Oncology Angus Dalgleish, Emeritus Professor Wendy Hoy, an expert in chronic disease, Emeritus Professor Robert Clancy, an immunologist who developed a bronchitis vaccine, geneticist Professor Alexandra Henrion Caude and microbiologist Professor Sucharit Bhakdi MD.


See those are the wrong scientists Pete.

Now in a sane world a sane gubmint would have been proactive a long time ago. Trials would have been completed, data collected and a rational decision implemented.
Well truth be told in a sane world there would be no commercial input into medical matters. Or politics.

So we plod on down the track at loggerheads with one another and nobody really knows the definitive truth.

Same old same old.

The way we are going it will all be swept under the carpet as our attention is focused on where the next nuclear attack is going to take place.

The world is controlled by psychopathic freaks.

remery
WA, 3709 posts
4 Oct 2024 10:47AM
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wideawake_media's Rob Deics is a fine example ignorant dross. There are many many more, almost all of them seeking money or attention. Which I suppose makes them more manipulative than ignorant. But then, the gullible are easily manipulated.

Pcdefender
WA, 1607 posts
4 Oct 2024 2:50PM
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lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/super-fit-triathlete-suffers-deadly



Doyle said she had "no health problems whatsoever" before getting two doses of the jab in mid-2021 and was the epitome of health and fitness.

She had won medals competing in triathlons, participated in Ironwoman and half-marathon events, and trained 15 hours a week on top of her job as a fitness instructor.

"My life was all about sport, being full-on active," she told Daily Mail Australia.

"Fit as a fiddle, I was really strong."

Doyle, who migrated to Australia from Sweden in 1989, took the Covid vaccine after being led to believe that it would protect her aging parents.

"I wasn't anti-vaccine, I had no reason to be, but I have never had a flu jab in my life. I was never sick, always healthy," she said.

"But with my family over in Sweden and my mom and dad getting old and sick - I thought, 'Oh, well, I am going to do this'."

Doyle's first dose left her with a sore arm - but her second jab, on July 4, 2021, was when it "all turned to s***," in what has been listed as a suspected adverse reaction with the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA).

Doyle said: "Literally the day after I woke up with a massive swelling under my armpit.

"It looked like a small water balloon sagging down under my ribs."

For the next two weeks, Doyle said she felt fatigued.

"Just walking around was starting to feel hard and I didn't know why," she said.

"Then, very, very suddenly, I had a very severe sharp pain in my lower abdomen. This radiated through to my lower back."

It worsened over the next few hours until her partner, Scott, took Doyle to hospital.

After a series of tests, Ms Doyle was told she had suffered an aortic dissection - a large tear of the lining on the inside of the heart.

"I was really scared, I was alone," she said.

Her partner wasn't allowed into the hospital due to Covid restrictions.

"I was in pain and I thought I might die here," she recalled.

"They also found [I had] an enlarged heart but no answers why.

"I had many scans and tests and was put on lots of medications. After five days I broke down, I was a mess."

It was just the beginning of a nightmare series of medical complications and surgeries - including undergoing grueling 12-hour cardiac surgery where she suffered organ failure and spent two weeks being fed through a tube.

"I was in and out consciousness and given heavy drugs that made me hallucinate so bad," she said.

"I was so scared. I was in pain and again I thought I was going to die."

She later suffered a hematoma (a pool of clotted blood), a pulmonary embolism (a clot blocking her right lung), and an infected skin graft that required more major surgery.

A few months ago, Doyle was back in the hospital for a gruelling 17-hour surgery because the initial aortic graft got infected and had to be replaced with a new synthetic one.

When Doyle's health troubles first began, she and partner Scott Elms, 53, desperately tried to find the cause.

"Scott wrote a massive list and at the very bottom was 'could it be the vaccines?'" Doyle said.

"Doctors said that couldn't be right because the vaccine goes into your arm, stays there for three days, and disappears."

Unconvinced, Elms got in contact with renowned Immunology Professor Nikolai Petrovsky from South Australia's Flinders University.

She said Professor Petrovsky gave Scott a "really clear description" that her injury could have been caused by vaccine spike proteins found in the bloodstream.

"He sent some links of other similar cases he had seen," she said.

Doyle says no one has offered the couple an alternative theory.

"They have looked for everything else, they have looked high and low for anything that could possibly be the cause and found nothing," she said.

"The only thing they have not looked for properly is the vaccine.

"In my opinion, the biggest problem we have in Australia is there is no testing facility for spike proteins.

"Where do we get things tested?"

The vascular surgeon who did her first surgery reported Ms Doyle as a suspected vaccine adverse reaction to the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA).

Her reactions to the vaccine are listed as aortic dissection and fibromuscular dysplasia under case number 659726 on the TGA database.

Thankfully, Professor Petrovsky was able to confirm that the "safe and effective" Covid mRNA vaccine was the cause of her near-death experience.

However, many other cases unfortunately end up swept under the rug.

remery
WA, 3709 posts
4 Oct 2024 5:41PM
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An aortic dissection from a vaccination. Ahahahaaaa. It took hitting a concrete pillar at 200kmh to dissect Princess Diana's aorta. Where to you find this garbage? I gave you excellent advice to use google scholar for your searches, but you continue to stalk cooker websites that tell you what you want to hear.

FormulaNova
WA, 15086 posts
4 Oct 2024 6:22PM
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remery said..
An aortic dissection from a vaccination. Ahahahaaaa. It took hitting a concrete pillar at 200kmh to dissect Princess Diana's aorta. Where to you find this garbage? I gave you excellent advice to use google scholar for your searches, but you continue to stalk cooker websites that tell you what you want to hear.


To be fair, he would have to understand what a aortic dissection is before you would expect him to think about it... and I guess we know that he just posts anything that furthers his cause for anti-vaxx, whether he understands it or not.

This was interesting, but I also admit I didn't read too much of it, so I am also a prat.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7293449/

I think in summary they are saying 'maybe Covid-19 caused it, maybe it didn't'.

There could be a heap of problems that are caused by Covid-19 and also by the vaccine for the same. Maybe we will get a much better understanding in time.

Mark _australia
WA, 23487 posts
4 Oct 2024 7:53PM
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Pete
correlation is not causation

high performing athletes have heart attacks and strokes etc.

an aortic dissection not long after the jab does not mean the jab caused it.

remery
WA, 3709 posts
4 Oct 2024 8:09PM
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Triathletes have, unfortunately, been dying prematurely for many years. It's what happens when you push your body to the limit.

fangman
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4 Oct 2024 8:15PM
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Mark _australia said..
correlation is not causation



I think we will continue to post this ad infinitum and it will continue to be an impenetrable concept.
Oh and congrats to Remery for managing to stay out of the sin bin for a record innings.

psychojoe
WA, 2235 posts
5 Oct 2024 4:52AM
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fangman said..

Mark _australia said..
correlation is not causation




I think we will continue to post this ad infinitum and it will continue to be an impenetrable concept.
Oh and congrats to Remery for managing to stay out of the sin bin for a record innings.


I dunno Fangman. You did post a chart showing the decrease in Covid deaths since the jabs came about. Let's all just be kind.

japie
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5 Oct 2024 10:21AM
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Mark _australia said..
Pete
correlation is not causation

high performing athletes have heart attacks and strokes etc.

an aortic dissection not long after the jab does not mean the jab caused it.


They do Mark. However the occurrence has increased in proportion to the increase in excess mortality.

Why?

D3
WA, 1506 posts
5 Oct 2024 8:57AM
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Has it really?

Got some actual specific numbers?

remery
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5 Oct 2024 9:55AM
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Ahh numbers... that old chestnut.

philn
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5 Oct 2024 1:34PM
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japie said..
Pratt is a pommie thing. Might be prat. The boarding school was the boarding school from hell. St Michaels in Soni. Run by the Rosminian order. It features on the internet.

Kiddy fiddlers. Hence my interest in things depraved and the motivations for.


WOW, I just googled this, I'm sorry you went through this.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kit_Cunningham

Pcdefender
WA, 1607 posts
5 Oct 2024 2:06PM
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Please take the time to read all 83 comments.....the elephant in the room


www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13920815/boy-dies-basketball-massachusetts-youth-club-george-levi-njuguna.html#newcomment

decrepit
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5 Oct 2024 2:33PM
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Pcdefender said..
Please take the time to read all 83 comments.....the elephant in the room

Hands up, anybody that's going to do this

philn
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5 Oct 2024 2:39PM
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decrepit said..

Pcdefender said..
Please take the time to read all 83 comments.....the elephant in the room


Hands up, anybody that's going to do this


I'll wait for the TLDR summary

Pcdefender
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5 Oct 2024 3:05PM
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Here are a few of the comments. Nearly all the comments are similar.

Very sad. One could easily speculate the root cause. Doesn't even need to be mentioned.




think about how often you saw these type of things 4 years ago or more compared to now? children, college athletes, celebrities and people you know or others through somebody you know who just was found dead

How awful, prayers for this young boy and his family and friends. Unfortunately, it was probably the jab. Shame on our government for forcing experimental vaccines on us.

Anything, but that one thing, could have caused it to happen.

Clearly was natural causes and NOTHING to do with the covid vaccine...

Vaxecuted.

I remember when this was an extremely rare occurrence AND you would also read what the exact cause was.

Why doesn't this article address THE OBVIOUS...did he get the clot shot??? it's been heavily documented that it causes heart inflammation etc in young boys. Elephant in the room! Big question on mind of most readers, IMHO. So sorry for him, had his whole life ahead.

Perfectly normal. Nothing to see here. Move along.

"safe and effective"

2-3 kids a week dying from heart issues wth is going on? I am a news junkie and there is definitely more of this happening ever since the clot shots.

jabs have consequences



FormulaNova
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5 Oct 2024 5:18PM
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I think Pcdefender said..
I am a news junkie and there is definitely more of this happening ever since the clot shots.



This is the sort of junkie that is strung out and will do anything for a shot of 'their-point-of-view', but the rest of the news is like panadol and you just don't want to know about it.

Pcdefender
WA, 1607 posts
5 Oct 2024 5:43PM
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Except the majority of the population now acknowledge the elephant in the room that the MSM keep from them.

Not everyone has the ability to delude themselves



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