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D3
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2 Oct 2024 5:00AM
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Why do so few of Japies Xitter, Telegram and Rumballs content creators have any qualifications in the fields where they're creating so called "conflicting evidence"?

remery
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2 Oct 2024 10:41AM
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Of course you took the time to read the actual study? Did you see this part...

"Overall, the increased risk of serious hematologic and vascular events after SARS-CoV-2 infection was found to be significantly higher and more prolonged than after vaccination.
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we do not know whether SARS CoV-2 infection occurred before or after vaccination in patients admitted for MI after the start of vaccination in Madrid.
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The combination of vaccination and natural immunization against SARS-CoV2 may also adversely affect the outcome of patients with type 1 infarction in the medium term, although we were not able to demonstrate this association. Further studies are needed to confirm these results."

Pcdefender
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2 Oct 2024 12:16PM
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This speech was scheduled to be played in a parliamentary special meeting at the UK Parliament. Conveniently, due to "sound issues", it was never played.


x.com/wideawake_media/status/1840712924135924007


remery
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2 Oct 2024 12:39PM
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Pcdefender said..
This speech was scheduled to be played in a parliamentary special meeting at the UK Parliament. Conveniently, due to "sound issues", it was never played.


x.com/wideawake_media/status/1840712924135924007




www.thejournal.ie/debunked-mike-yeadon-pfizer-covid-19-vaccines-5447489-May2021/

japie
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2 Oct 2024 4:00PM
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remery said..
japie said..

Words on a page. What caused the excess mortality the kicked off shortly after the jibby jab.





You tell us. You're the one who commented that actuaries know what they are talking about. And actuaries are saying that excess deaths have nothing to do with vaccines.

If you're going to talk the talk, you should be able to walk the walk. It's not like dress up day at school when you pretended to be a scientist.


You have a penchant for misrepresenting things that have been said on these pages and this is one of them. I did not nor have ever said that actuaries passed any judgement on what was causing the excess deaths. What I said was that actuaries data was accurate with regard to the number of people who die.

That was it. They were the ones that pointed out that there was a hike in excess deaths. It's likely that there was almost no errors of statistical importance in that data.

Why do you so frequently use emotive language when you are communicating? Do you have a psychological issue?

japie
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2 Oct 2024 4:11PM
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Fascinating! We had a situation where a select few pharmaceutical companies had the opportunity to profit by hundreds of billions of dollars ( which they did), for developing a product which was only useable under emergency use authorisation EUA.



I'm trying to fact check that $ claim but when I add up the profits of the big vaccine suppliers from what I can find easily I'm getting less than $50B, and that includes all their revenue, not just the covid vaccine. So I think your source is a bit dodgy


You are probably right, it may well be dodgy. I used Google. Regardless they made an awful lot of money. As did so many. I've read that it was the biggest wealth transfer in history. Might be might not be. We do know that an awful lot of money changed hands. Tax payer will pick up the bill. Don't they always!

japie
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2 Oct 2024 4:36PM
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D3 said..
Why do so few of Japies Xitter, Telegram and Rumballs content creators have any qualifications in the fields where they're creating so called "conflicting evidence"?


You are presuming that you know who they are?

japie
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2 Oct 2024 4:46PM
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remery said..
Pcdefender said..
This speech was scheduled to be played in a parliamentary special meeting at the UK Parliament. Conveniently, due to "sound issues", it was never played.


x.com/wideawake_media/status/1840712924135924007




www.thejournal.ie/debunked-mike-yeadon-pfizer-covid-19-vaccines-5447489-May2021/


This is tedious. Anyone who is a critic of the Covid narrative regardless their stature in their given field prior to Covid is automatically vilified, fact checked, anal probed, character assasinated and dragged through the court of Covid cultists.

Anyone who has a desire to seek out the truth of the matter listens to what those people have to say. Particularly if they had a well established reputation prior to Covid. Mike Yeadon is one such.

People who are not drawn to listen to voices which oppose the official narrative basically remain ignorant.

remery
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2 Oct 2024 2:54PM
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japie said..

Time advances and I begin reading reports of excess mortality. Quite significant reports of excess mortality. Very significant actually. Like 40% in some areas and we are talking about millennials. To put it in perspective a 10% rise is equivalent to a 200 year flood.

The data came from the insurance business. This data is rock solid. Insurance companies do not get it wrong.



After the vaccines were deployed excess mortality amongst millennials skyrocketed.
There has been no attempt to ascertain the cause which is very strange because the covid mortality was minuscule in comparison, it occurred in large part in the elderly and the morbidly ill and the powers that be spent hundreds of billions combatting it.

remery
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2 Oct 2024 4:06PM
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japie said..

This is tedious. Anyone who is a critic of the Covid narrative regardless their stature in their given field prior to Covid is automatically vilified, fact checked, anal probed, character assasinated and dragged through the court of Covid cultists.

Anyone who has a desire to seek out the truth of the matter listens to what those people have to say. Particularly if they had a well established reputation prior to Covid. Mike Yeadon is one such.

People who are not drawn to listen to voices which oppose the official narrative basically remain ignorant.


What is tedious is the endless posting of misinformation and disinformation. Conspiracy theorists perception of the "truth" is... anything they believe in. Science is not a belief system.

japie
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2 Oct 2024 6:41PM
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Go you good thing go!

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.:

"You look at that pandemic, you look at the management, the disaster, the Brown University, they closed all the schools, the Brown University studies said our children, our toddlers in this country lost 22 IQ points. A third of children are now going to be taking remedial education and many believe they will never recover. The GMAC scores are down.

All of the scoring of IQ and our children's intelligence are down. This did a terrible, terrible blow to our country. And what was the point of it all? Well, we look at what the outcome was. And the outcome was that they shifted. They closed all of the small business in this country. 41% of black-owned businesses will never reopen.
They shifted money upward. They strengthened these big tech institutions like Amazon and Facebook and Instagram and YouTube and Google. And they weakened Main Street and small business and the American worker and they shifted $4.3 trillion from the American middle class to this new oligarchy of billionaires, which is the biggest outcome, the biggest shift in world history of wealth and a shift in power. We gave our government all these new powers.
And I want you all to remember three things, three rules. One is that when you give a government a power, it will never voluntarily relinquish it. Second rule, that if you give him a government of power, it will ultimately abuse that power to the maximum extent possible. And the third rule is that nobody ever complied their way out of totalitarianism.

So what are we going to do if they ever try to do this again? We're going to resist, resist, resist.
What are we going to do if they try it again? Resist! What are we going to do? Resist!"

D3
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2 Oct 2024 4:43PM
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japie said..

D3 said..
Why do so few of Japies Xitter, Telegram and Rumballs content creators have any qualifications in the fields where they're creating so called "conflicting evidence"?



You are presuming that you know who they are?


Well, obviously Mike Yeadon is one of them.

japie
NSW, 7145 posts
2 Oct 2024 8:17PM
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Follow the science. Yes it's America. Australia following hot behind.

Alex Clark testifies at senate hearing on chronic disease:
"My average listener, like me, is a woman in her late 20s and early 30s. And we demand accountability for how the millennial generation was turned into a science experiment without our informed consent for the sake of enriching big pharma, big ag, and big food.

Millennial women have started to have kids for the first time, and they are disillusioned with how hard it has become to not only get pregnant, but also raise kids who are healthy, happy, and mentally well. Today, I am proud to represent them.

The poisoning of our food and the environment is the issue for these independent women. It is devastating us and our children. My name is Alex Clark and I host Culture Apothecary. By virtually every measure, millennials are more health conscious than any generation before us, but at the same time, we are also the sickest. That is, until our children end up surpassing us. The next generation of children is predicted to not outlive their parents if we continue on the trajectory that we are currently on. When in human history has that ever been the case? We are fatter than any prior generation at this age. We're having more fertility issues. New cancer diagnoses in the U.S. are projected to top 2 million for the first time this year, and these new cases are almost all driven by young people. This is according to American Cancer Society data.

What happened?

Growing up, millennials were handed health advice that was inaccurate, mistaken, or downright fabricated. Almost everything that we were taught about food and health was made up. The only guidance that we received on what to eat came in 1992 via the Food Pyramid, a completely manipulated work of fake public health crafted by the Department of Agriculture.
The food pyramid told us that all fat was bad, a lie. It told us to make complex carbs like pasta, bread, and processed breakfast cereal the bedrock of our diet, not because it was healthy, but because it was the most profitable recommendation for big ag and big food. We became the first generation subjected to sugary, fattening, inflammatory foods, deliberately engineered to be as addictive as heroin, thanks to the food companies buying the scientists from the cigarette companies for that exact purpose.

In the 80s and 90s, the same era as the food pyramid scam, youth obesity tripled from 5% to 15%. Today in 2024, close to half of all American kids are overweight or obese. Now why are you surprised? Ultra processed foods make up 70% of the calories that kids eat now.

Now, most of us millennial girls got our first period when we were 13 to 15 years old. Pediatricians wasted no time telling us that there was a magic pill that could solve all of our problems in a 10-minute wellness checkup with no informed consent about the risks or side effects. What problems were we solving exactly? A couple pimples. We were advised to not worry about learning to track our cycle or understand our hormones.

No conversation about how our likelihood to experience anxiety or depression would increase by 80% on the pill.

10 to 15 years went by on the hormonal birth control pill. We stayed on the pill because no one advised us it was only ever supposed to be taken temporarily. Then we wanted to have children. We got off birth control for the first time in our adult lives only to discover that we had major fertility issues that the hormonal birth control hid. Infertility is going up 1% every year.
Suddenly, starting a family means spending tens of thousands of dollars on IVF and other fertility treatments because even more medical interventions are always the first solution rather than addressing the root causes of the problem.
If the IVF even works, millennial moms are seeing the same drama play out for their own children, but on a far greater scale. They want to raise healthy kids, they do. But where can they go for info? The studies are bought and paid for by the food companies. They look for unbiased info on the news, but that's funded by Big Pharma.
In 2022, the pharmaceutical industry spent an average of $1 billion per month on advertising in the United States. What news company is going to risk reporting the truth if it means missing out on advertising dollars like that? Their pediatrician, these moms, pediatrician, had less than a day of nutrition training in all their years of medical school. They don't even know what seed oils are when they ask about them.
If one of my listeners has a child today, there is a one in 50 chance that child will have a deadly peanut allergy, four times what it was just a few decades ago. And that rate is rising. Children today are about 20% more likely to develop type one diabetes than they were 20 years ago. Childhood cancer rates are rising a percentage point every year, asthma is up, so is ADHD, allergies, virtually every type of psychological disorder.

In 1980, autism was diagnosed at a rate of just three or four per hundred thousand kids. Today, a newborn child has a one in thirty-six chance that he or she will be autistic. And that rate is also rising every year. Who cares about politics if the next generation is dead or close to it before they can even vote?

In 1985, newborn millennials had to follow a schedule of just a handful of vaccines. Today, a child following the recommended vaccine schedule will receive up to 70 shots by the time they turn 18, including 27 before he or she turns 2, and as many as 6 shots in a single visit. Are all these shots producing healthier kids? According to the data, no. Are we allowed to even ask? Also, no.

Some parents who've asked too many questions about the recommended vaccine schedule can find themselves reported to Child Protection Services. Or they will get kicked out of their pediatrician's office for not being compliant. This is America, the land of the free. Parents are being held hostage. They did not sign up to co-parent with the government. We want a divorce.
But there's more. Remember when I said that my generation had our first period at 13 or 15? Today little girls are starting their periods at 8 or 9 and they are getting pubic hair as young as 5 or 6. Is it their drinking water, their food, chemicals and personal care products that other countries have banned? Don't ask, don't tell.

Girls are still being pressured to get on birth control, by the way, without informed consent, but now they get the added bonus of an antidepressant to go with it. Two for one special. Just to reiterate the war on moms in this country, today virtually everything a child eats or drinks will be served on a plastic plate in a plastic bottle or be eaten from a plastic container with plastic utensils. Human breast milk now contains thousands of microplastics.
If you need formula, you can't find it without inflammatory seed oils or soy. Parents have to order it and buy it from Europe. Does this all seem overwhelming to you? Good. This is what the American mom deals with every day.
The typical American parent today has to worry about a job, about their children's education, about all the things that a parent has always had to worry about.

They shouldn't also have to deal with the added stress of finding the poison that lurks in almost everything their child eats or drinks. The American dream is that a parent will be able to raise children who are better off than themselves. But now that dream is vanishing, not just on an economic level, but a biological one. Unless we break this spiral, we will fall into a death spiral of unhealthy parents raising even more unhealthy kids that will bankrupt this country. As RFK Jr. has said, the last thing standing between a child and an industry full of corruption is a mom. Let's make it easier for them."

remery
WA, 3709 posts
2 Oct 2024 9:00PM
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japie said..
Go you good thing go!

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.:

"You look at that pandemic, you look at the management, the disaster, the Brown University, they closed all the schools, the Brown University studies said our children, our toddlers in this country lost 22 IQ points. A third of children are now going to be taking remedial education and many believe they will never recover. The GMAC scores are down.

All of the scoring of IQ and our children's intelligence are down. This did a terrible, terrible blow to our country. And what was the point of it all? Well, we look at what the outcome was. And the outcome was that they shifted. They closed all of the small business in this country. 41% of black-owned businesses will never reopen.
They shifted money upward. They strengthened these big tech institutions like Amazon and Facebook and Instagram and YouTube and Google. And they weakened Main Street and small business and the American worker and they shifted $4.3 trillion from the American middle class to this new oligarchy of billionaires, which is the biggest outcome, the biggest shift in world history of wealth and a shift in power. We gave our government all these new powers.
And I want you all to remember three things, three rules. One is that when you give a government a power, it will never voluntarily relinquish it. Second rule, that if you give him a government of power, it will ultimately abuse that power to the maximum extent possible. And the third rule is that nobody ever complied their way out of totalitarianism.

So what are we going to do if they ever try to do this again? We're going to resist, resist, resist.
What are we going to do if they try it again? Resist! What are we going to do? Resist!"


RFK... now there's a mental giant.

remery
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2 Oct 2024 9:01PM
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D3 said..

Well, obviously Mike Yeadon is one of them.


Yes.

remery
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2 Oct 2024 9:05PM
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Follow the science. Yes it's America. Australia following hot behind.

Alex Clark testifies at senate hearing on chronic disease:
"My average listener, like me, is a woman in her late 20s and early 30s. And we demand accountability for how the millennial generation was turned into a science experiment without our informed consent for the sake of enriching big pharma, big ag, and big food.

Millennial women have started to have kids for the first time, and they are disillusioned with how hard it has become to not only get pregnant, but also raise kids who are healthy, happy, and mentally well. Today, I am proud to represent them.

The poisoning of our food and the environment is the issue for these independent women. It is devastating us and our children. My name is Alex Clark and I host Culture Apothecary. By virtually every measure, millennials are more health conscious than any generation before us, but at the same time, we are also the sickest. That is, until our children end up surpassing us. The next generation of children is predicted to not outlive their parents if we continue on the trajectory that we are currently on. When in human history has that ever been the case? We are fatter than any prior generation at this age. We're having more fertility issues. New cancer diagnoses in the U.S. are projected to top 2 million for the first time this year, and these new cases are almost all driven by young people. This is according to American Cancer Society data.

What happened?

Growing up, millennials were handed health advice that was inaccurate, mistaken, or downright fabricated. Almost everything that we were taught about food and health was made up. The only guidance that we received on what to eat came in 1992 via the Food Pyramid, a completely manipulated work of fake public health crafted by the Department of Agriculture.
The food pyramid told us that all fat was bad, a lie. It told us to make complex carbs like pasta, bread, and processed breakfast cereal the bedrock of our diet, not because it was healthy, but because it was the most profitable recommendation for big ag and big food. We became the first generation subjected to sugary, fattening, inflammatory foods, deliberately engineered to be as addictive as heroin, thanks to the food companies buying the scientists from the cigarette companies for that exact purpose.

In the 80s and 90s, the same era as the food pyramid scam, youth obesity tripled from 5% to 15%. Today in 2024, close to half of all American kids are overweight or obese. Now why are you surprised? Ultra processed foods make up 70% of the calories that kids eat now.

Now, most of us millennial girls got our first period when we were 13 to 15 years old. Pediatricians wasted no time telling us that there was a magic pill that could solve all of our problems in a 10-minute wellness checkup with no informed consent about the risks or side effects. What problems were we solving exactly? A couple pimples. We were advised to not worry about learning to track our cycle or understand our hormones.

No conversation about how our likelihood to experience anxiety or depression would increase by 80% on the pill.

10 to 15 years went by on the hormonal birth control pill. We stayed on the pill because no one advised us it was only ever supposed to be taken temporarily. Then we wanted to have children. We got off birth control for the first time in our adult lives only to discover that we had major fertility issues that the hormonal birth control hid. Infertility is going up 1% every year.
Suddenly, starting a family means spending tens of thousands of dollars on IVF and other fertility treatments because even more medical interventions are always the first solution rather than addressing the root causes of the problem.
If the IVF even works, millennial moms are seeing the same drama play out for their own children, but on a far greater scale. They want to raise healthy kids, they do. But where can they go for info? The studies are bought and paid for by the food companies. They look for unbiased info on the news, but that's funded by Big Pharma.
In 2022, the pharmaceutical industry spent an average of $1 billion per month on advertising in the United States. What news company is going to risk reporting the truth if it means missing out on advertising dollars like that? Their pediatrician, these moms, pediatrician, had less than a day of nutrition training in all their years of medical school. They don't even know what seed oils are when they ask about them.
If one of my listeners has a child today, there is a one in 50 chance that child will have a deadly peanut allergy, four times what it was just a few decades ago. And that rate is rising. Children today are about 20% more likely to develop type one diabetes than they were 20 years ago. Childhood cancer rates are rising a percentage point every year, asthma is up, so is ADHD, allergies, virtually every type of psychological disorder.

In 1980, autism was diagnosed at a rate of just three or four per hundred thousand kids. Today, a newborn child has a one in thirty-six chance that he or she will be autistic. And that rate is also rising every year. Who cares about politics if the next generation is dead or close to it before they can even vote?

In 1985, newborn millennials had to follow a schedule of just a handful of vaccines. Today, a child following the recommended vaccine schedule will receive up to 70 shots by the time they turn 18, including 27 before he or she turns 2, and as many as 6 shots in a single visit. Are all these shots producing healthier kids? According to the data, no. Are we allowed to even ask? Also, no.

Some parents who've asked too many questions about the recommended vaccine schedule can find themselves reported to Child Protection Services. Or they will get kicked out of their pediatrician's office for not being compliant. This is America, the land of the free. Parents are being held hostage. They did not sign up to co-parent with the government. We want a divorce.
But there's more. Remember when I said that my generation had our first period at 13 or 15? Today little girls are starting their periods at 8 or 9 and they are getting pubic hair as young as 5 or 6. Is it their drinking water, their food, chemicals and personal care products that other countries have banned? Don't ask, don't tell.

Girls are still being pressured to get on birth control, by the way, without informed consent, but now they get the added bonus of an antidepressant to go with it. Two for one special. Just to reiterate the war on moms in this country, today virtually everything a child eats or drinks will be served on a plastic plate in a plastic bottle or be eaten from a plastic container with plastic utensils. Human breast milk now contains thousands of microplastics.
If you need formula, you can't find it without inflammatory seed oils or soy. Parents have to order it and buy it from Europe. Does this all seem overwhelming to you? Good. This is what the American mom deals with every day.
The typical American parent today has to worry about a job, about their children's education, about all the things that a parent has always had to worry about.

They shouldn't also have to deal with the added stress of finding the poison that lurks in almost everything their child eats or drinks. The American dream is that a parent will be able to raise children who are better off than themselves. But now that dream is vanishing, not just on an economic level, but a biological one. Unless we break this spiral, we will fall into a death spiral of unhealthy parents raising even more unhealthy kids that will bankrupt this country. As RFK Jr. has said, the last thing standing between a child and an industry full of corruption is a mom. Let's make it easier for them."


Words on a page. Lots of words, almost entirely drivel. Did you finish high school?

Mr Milk
NSW, 3115 posts
2 Oct 2024 11:32PM
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You know, besides wishing we could have Easter in October down under, I also wish the virus had come from birds instead of bats.
Corvid! That's something almost as good as the Black Plague
But the only fun we really had from the epidemic was early on in Italy when locked down socialising consisted of singing on balconies.
The croonervirus was born

D3
WA, 1506 posts
2 Oct 2024 9:53PM
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japie said..
Follow the science. Yes it's America. Australia following hot behind.

Alex Clark testifies at senate hearing on chronic disease:
"My average listener, like me, is a woman in her late 20s and early 30s. And we demand accountability for how the millennial generation was turned into a science experiment without our informed consent for the sake of enriching big pharma, big ag, and big food.

Millennial women have started to have kids for the first time, and they are disillusioned with how hard it has become to not only get pregnant, but also raise kids who are healthy, happy, and mentally well. Today, I am proud to represent them.

The poisoning of our food and the environment is the issue for these independent women. It is devastating us and our children. My name is Alex Clark and I host Culture Apothecary. By virtually every measure, millennials are more health conscious than any generation before us, but at the same time, we are also the sickest. That is, until our children end up surpassing us. The next generation of children is predicted to not outlive their parents if we continue on the trajectory that we are currently on. When in human history has that ever been the case? We are fatter than any prior generation at this age. We're having more fertility issues. New cancer diagnoses in the U.S. are projected to top 2 million for the first time this year, and these new cases are almost all driven by young people. This is according to American Cancer Society data.

What happened?

Growing up, millennials were handed health advice that was inaccurate, mistaken, or downright fabricated. Almost everything that we were taught about food and health was made up. The only guidance that we received on what to eat came in 1992 via the Food Pyramid, a completely manipulated work of fake public health crafted by the Department of Agriculture.
The food pyramid told us that all fat was bad, a lie. It told us to make complex carbs like pasta, bread, and processed breakfast cereal the bedrock of our diet, not because it was healthy, but because it was the most profitable recommendation for big ag and big food. We became the first generation subjected to sugary, fattening, inflammatory foods, deliberately engineered to be as addictive as heroin, thanks to the food companies buying the scientists from the cigarette companies for that exact purpose.

In the 80s and 90s, the same era as the food pyramid scam, youth obesity tripled from 5% to 15%. Today in 2024, close to half of all American kids are overweight or obese. Now why are you surprised? Ultra processed foods make up 70% of the calories that kids eat now.

Now, most of us millennial girls got our first period when we were 13 to 15 years old. Pediatricians wasted no time telling us that there was a magic pill that could solve all of our problems in a 10-minute wellness checkup with no informed consent about the risks or side effects. What problems were we solving exactly? A couple pimples. We were advised to not worry about learning to track our cycle or understand our hormones.

No conversation about how our likelihood to experience anxiety or depression would increase by 80% on the pill.

10 to 15 years went by on the hormonal birth control pill. We stayed on the pill because no one advised us it was only ever supposed to be taken temporarily. Then we wanted to have children. We got off birth control for the first time in our adult lives only to discover that we had major fertility issues that the hormonal birth control hid. Infertility is going up 1% every year.
Suddenly, starting a family means spending tens of thousands of dollars on IVF and other fertility treatments because even more medical interventions are always the first solution rather than addressing the root causes of the problem.
If the IVF even works, millennial moms are seeing the same drama play out for their own children, but on a far greater scale. They want to raise healthy kids, they do. But where can they go for info? The studies are bought and paid for by the food companies. They look for unbiased info on the news, but that's funded by Big Pharma.
In 2022, the pharmaceutical industry spent an average of $1 billion per month on advertising in the United States. What news company is going to risk reporting the truth if it means missing out on advertising dollars like that? Their pediatrician, these moms, pediatrician, had less than a day of nutrition training in all their years of medical school. They don't even know what seed oils are when they ask about them.
If one of my listeners has a child today, there is a one in 50 chance that child will have a deadly peanut allergy, four times what it was just a few decades ago. And that rate is rising. Children today are about 20% more likely to develop type one diabetes than they were 20 years ago. Childhood cancer rates are rising a percentage point every year, asthma is up, so is ADHD, allergies, virtually every type of psychological disorder.

In 1980, autism was diagnosed at a rate of just three or four per hundred thousand kids. Today, a newborn child has a one in thirty-six chance that he or she will be autistic. And that rate is also rising every year. Who cares about politics if the next generation is dead or close to it before they can even vote?

In 1985, newborn millennials had to follow a schedule of just a handful of vaccines. Today, a child following the recommended vaccine schedule will receive up to 70 shots by the time they turn 18, including 27 before he or she turns 2, and as many as 6 shots in a single visit. Are all these shots producing healthier kids? According to the data, no. Are we allowed to even ask? Also, no.

Some parents who've asked too many questions about the recommended vaccine schedule can find themselves reported to Child Protection Services. Or they will get kicked out of their pediatrician's office for not being compliant. This is America, the land of the free. Parents are being held hostage. They did not sign up to co-parent with the government. We want a divorce.
But there's more. Remember when I said that my generation had our first period at 13 or 15? Today little girls are starting their periods at 8 or 9 and they are getting pubic hair as young as 5 or 6. Is it their drinking water, their food, chemicals and personal care products that other countries have banned? Don't ask, don't tell.

Girls are still being pressured to get on birth control, by the way, without informed consent, but now they get the added bonus of an antidepressant to go with it. Two for one special. Just to reiterate the war on moms in this country, today virtually everything a child eats or drinks will be served on a plastic plate in a plastic bottle or be eaten from a plastic container with plastic utensils. Human breast milk now contains thousands of microplastics.
If you need formula, you can't find it without inflammatory seed oils or soy. Parents have to order it and buy it from Europe. Does this all seem overwhelming to you? Good. This is what the American mom deals with every day.
The typical American parent today has to worry about a job, about their children's education, about all the things that a parent has always had to worry about.

They shouldn't also have to deal with the added stress of finding the poison that lurks in almost everything their child eats or drinks. The American dream is that a parent will be able to raise children who are better off than themselves. But now that dream is vanishing, not just on an economic level, but a biological one. Unless we break this spiral, we will fall into a death spiral of unhealthy parents raising even more unhealthy kids that will bankrupt this country. As RFK Jr. has said, the last thing standing between a child and an industry full of corruption is a mom. Let's make it easier for them."


I think this sums up my point.

Who is Alex Clarke? What is her training and expertise that allows her to stand out as a source of "conflicting evidence "?

Or is she just another podcaster with opinions?

FormulaNova
WA, 15086 posts
2 Oct 2024 10:01PM
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japie said..
Follow the science. Yes it's America. Australia following hot behind.

Alex Clark testifies at senate hearing on chronic disease:
"My average listener, like me, is a woman in her late 20s and early 30s. And we demand accountability for how the millennial generation was turned into a science experiment without our informed consent for the sake of enriching big pharma, big ag, and big food.

Millennial women have started to have kids for the first time, and they are disillusioned with how hard it has become to not only get pregnant, but also raise kids who are healthy, happy, and mentally well. Today, I am proud to represent them.

The poisoning of our food and the environment is the issue for these independent women. It is devastating us and our children. My name is Alex Clark and I host Culture Apothecary. By virtually every measure, millennials are more health conscious than any generation before us, but at the same time, we are also the sickest. That is, until our children end up surpassing us. The next generation of children is predicted to not outlive their parents if we continue on the trajectory that we are currently on. When in human history has that ever been the case? We are fatter than any prior generation at this age. We're having more fertility issues. New cancer diagnoses in the U.S. are projected to top 2 million for the first time this year, and these new cases are almost all driven by young people. This is according to American Cancer Society data.

What happened?

Growing up, millennials were handed health advice that was inaccurate, mistaken, or downright fabricated. Almost everything that we were taught about food and health was made up. The only guidance that we received on what to eat came in 1992 via the Food Pyramid, a completely manipulated work of fake public health crafted by the Department of Agriculture.
The food pyramid told us that all fat was bad, a lie. It told us to make complex carbs like pasta, bread, and processed breakfast cereal the bedrock of our diet, not because it was healthy, but because it was the most profitable recommendation for big ag and big food. We became the first generation subjected to sugary, fattening, inflammatory foods, deliberately engineered to be as addictive as heroin, thanks to the food companies buying the scientists from the cigarette companies for that exact purpose.

In the 80s and 90s, the same era as the food pyramid scam, youth obesity tripled from 5% to 15%. Today in 2024, close to half of all American kids are overweight or obese. Now why are you surprised? Ultra processed foods make up 70% of the calories that kids eat now.

Now, most of us millennial girls got our first period when we were 13 to 15 years old. Pediatricians wasted no time telling us that there was a magic pill that could solve all of our problems in a 10-minute wellness checkup with no informed consent about the risks or side effects. What problems were we solving exactly? A couple pimples. We were advised to not worry about learning to track our cycle or understand our hormones.

No conversation about how our likelihood to experience anxiety or depression would increase by 80% on the pill.

10 to 15 years went by on the hormonal birth control pill. We stayed on the pill because no one advised us it was only ever supposed to be taken temporarily. Then we wanted to have children. We got off birth control for the first time in our adult lives only to discover that we had major fertility issues that the hormonal birth control hid. Infertility is going up 1% every year.
Suddenly, starting a family means spending tens of thousands of dollars on IVF and other fertility treatments because even more medical interventions are always the first solution rather than addressing the root causes of the problem.
If the IVF even works, millennial moms are seeing the same drama play out for their own children, but on a far greater scale. They want to raise healthy kids, they do. But where can they go for info? The studies are bought and paid for by the food companies. They look for unbiased info on the news, but that's funded by Big Pharma.
In 2022, the pharmaceutical industry spent an average of $1 billion per month on advertising in the United States. What news company is going to risk reporting the truth if it means missing out on advertising dollars like that? Their pediatrician, these moms, pediatrician, had less than a day of nutrition training in all their years of medical school. They don't even know what seed oils are when they ask about them.
If one of my listeners has a child today, there is a one in 50 chance that child will have a deadly peanut allergy, four times what it was just a few decades ago. And that rate is rising. Children today are about 20% more likely to develop type one diabetes than they were 20 years ago. Childhood cancer rates are rising a percentage point every year, asthma is up, so is ADHD, allergies, virtually every type of psychological disorder.

In 1980, autism was diagnosed at a rate of just three or four per hundred thousand kids. Today, a newborn child has a one in thirty-six chance that he or she will be autistic. And that rate is also rising every year. Who cares about politics if the next generation is dead or close to it before they can even vote?

In 1985, newborn millennials had to follow a schedule of just a handful of vaccines. Today, a child following the recommended vaccine schedule will receive up to 70 shots by the time they turn 18, including 27 before he or she turns 2, and as many as 6 shots in a single visit. Are all these shots producing healthier kids? According to the data, no. Are we allowed to even ask? Also, no.

Some parents who've asked too many questions about the recommended vaccine schedule can find themselves reported to Child Protection Services. Or they will get kicked out of their pediatrician's office for not being compliant. This is America, the land of the free. Parents are being held hostage. They did not sign up to co-parent with the government. We want a divorce.
But there's more. Remember when I said that my generation had our first period at 13 or 15? Today little girls are starting their periods at 8 or 9 and they are getting pubic hair as young as 5 or 6. Is it their drinking water, their food, chemicals and personal care products that other countries have banned? Don't ask, don't tell.

Girls are still being pressured to get on birth control, by the way, without informed consent, but now they get the added bonus of an antidepressant to go with it. Two for one special. Just to reiterate the war on moms in this country, today virtually everything a child eats or drinks will be served on a plastic plate in a plastic bottle or be eaten from a plastic container with plastic utensils. Human breast milk now contains thousands of microplastics.
If you need formula, you can't find it without inflammatory seed oils or soy. Parents have to order it and buy it from Europe. Does this all seem overwhelming to you? Good. This is what the American mom deals with every day.
The typical American parent today has to worry about a job, about their children's education, about all the things that a parent has always had to worry about.

They shouldn't also have to deal with the added stress of finding the poison that lurks in almost everything their child eats or drinks. The American dream is that a parent will be able to raise children who are better off than themselves. But now that dream is vanishing, not just on an economic level, but a biological one. Unless we break this spiral, we will fall into a death spiral of unhealthy parents raising even more unhealthy kids that will bankrupt this country. As RFK Jr. has said, the last thing standing between a child and an industry full of corruption is a mom. Let's make it easier for them."


Words on a page. Lots of words, almost entirely drivel. Did you finish high school?


I think Japie went to an English boarding school based on his vocabulary. I guess they taught quotes by important people in those days and not how to think.

Its a pity that he is locked into thinking almost everything is a conspiracy. You would think at some point "almost everything can be turned into a conspiracy" which would probably make you rethink your attitude to things.

Pcdefender
WA, 1607 posts
2 Oct 2024 10:08PM
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Words on a page. Lots of words, almost entirely drivel. Did you finish high school?


You learned well remery at high school, very well actually. Memorize and regurgitate - gold star to you but as far removed from intelligence as surely can be.

You are no scientist at least not in my mind.

You have been indoctrinated into a club full of liars.

Your faith is not Christianity but of scientism.

Scientism for those who are not aware is THEIR TAKE on every issue.

Any other take put forward on this forum you instantly attack with your scientism bible that has been downloaded into your indoctrinated brain.

Hopefully one day you will see the truth.

remery
WA, 3709 posts
2 Oct 2024 10:43PM
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You are no scientist at least not in my mind.


I'll take that as a compliment.

fangman
WA, 1906 posts
2 Oct 2024 11:57PM
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I am still not convinced that this thread is not just some giant piss-take. But given we have got to the 30 page mark, I think we should have a prize of Adam Savage T shirts;

" I reject your reality and substitute my own"

I am just not sure how to judge the comp. Ideas anyone?
It probably needs some CAPS LOCK, use of 'their' and a lol or two, but other than that I am open to suggestions.

japie
NSW, 7145 posts
3 Oct 2024 6:03AM
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I did go to boarding school. It was English although it was located in Tanzania.

I've a keen sense of humour. There is nothing more satisfying than watching a stuffed shirt(s) making a Pratt of himself.

japie
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3 Oct 2024 6:25AM
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japie said..
Follow the science. Yes it's America. Australia following hot behind.

Alex Clark testifies at senate hearing on chronic disease:
"My average listener, like me, is a woman in her late 20s and early 30s. And we demand accountability for how the millennial generation was turned into a science experiment without our informed consent for the sake of enriching big pharma, big ag, and big food.

Millennial women have started to have kids for the first time, and they are disillusioned with how hard it has become to not only get pregnant, but also raise kids who are healthy, happy, and mentally well. Today, I am proud to represent them.

The poisoning of our food and the environment is the issue for these independent women. It is devastating us and our children. My name is Alex Clark and I host Culture Apothecary. By virtually every measure, millennials are more health conscious than any generation before us, but at the same time, we are also the sickest. That is, until our children end up surpassing us. The next generation of children is predicted to not outlive their parents if we continue on the trajectory that we are currently on. When in human history has that ever been the case? We are fatter than any prior generation at this age. We're having more fertility issues. New cancer diagnoses in the U.S. are projected to top 2 million for the first time this year, and these new cases are almost all driven by young people. This is according to American Cancer Society data.

What happened?

Growing up, millennials were handed health advice that was inaccurate, mistaken, or downright fabricated. Almost everything that we were taught about food and health was made up. The only guidance that we received on what to eat came in 1992 via the Food Pyramid, a completely manipulated work of fake public health crafted by the Department of Agriculture.
The food pyramid told us that all fat was bad, a lie. It told us to make complex carbs like pasta, bread, and processed breakfast cereal the bedrock of our diet, not because it was healthy, but because it was the most profitable recommendation for big ag and big food. We became the first generation subjected to sugary, fattening, inflammatory foods, deliberately engineered to be as addictive as heroin, thanks to the food companies buying the scientists from the cigarette companies for that exact purpose.

In the 80s and 90s, the same era as the food pyramid scam, youth obesity tripled from 5% to 15%. Today in 2024, close to half of all American kids are overweight or obese. Now why are you surprised? Ultra processed foods make up 70% of the calories that kids eat now.

Now, most of us millennial girls got our first period when we were 13 to 15 years old. Pediatricians wasted no time telling us that there was a magic pill that could solve all of our problems in a 10-minute wellness checkup with no informed consent about the risks or side effects. What problems were we solving exactly? A couple pimples. We were advised to not worry about learning to track our cycle or understand our hormones.

No conversation about how our likelihood to experience anxiety or depression would increase by 80% on the pill.

10 to 15 years went by on the hormonal birth control pill. We stayed on the pill because no one advised us it was only ever supposed to be taken temporarily. Then we wanted to have children. We got off birth control for the first time in our adult lives only to discover that we had major fertility issues that the hormonal birth control hid. Infertility is going up 1% every year.
Suddenly, starting a family means spending tens of thousands of dollars on IVF and other fertility treatments because even more medical interventions are always the first solution rather than addressing the root causes of the problem.
If the IVF even works, millennial moms are seeing the same drama play out for their own children, but on a far greater scale. They want to raise healthy kids, they do. But where can they go for info? The studies are bought and paid for by the food companies. They look for unbiased info on the news, but that's funded by Big Pharma.
In 2022, the pharmaceutical industry spent an average of $1 billion per month on advertising in the United States. What news company is going to risk reporting the truth if it means missing out on advertising dollars like that? Their pediatrician, these moms, pediatrician, had less than a day of nutrition training in all their years of medical school. They don't even know what seed oils are when they ask about them.
If one of my listeners has a child today, there is a one in 50 chance that child will have a deadly peanut allergy, four times what it was just a few decades ago. And that rate is rising. Children today are about 20% more likely to develop type one diabetes than they were 20 years ago. Childhood cancer rates are rising a percentage point every year, asthma is up, so is ADHD, allergies, virtually every type of psychological disorder.

In 1980, autism was diagnosed at a rate of just three or four per hundred thousand kids. Today, a newborn child has a one in thirty-six chance that he or she will be autistic. And that rate is also rising every year. Who cares about politics if the next generation is dead or close to it before they can even vote?

In 1985, newborn millennials had to follow a schedule of just a handful of vaccines. Today, a child following the recommended vaccine schedule will receive up to 70 shots by the time they turn 18, including 27 before he or she turns 2, and as many as 6 shots in a single visit. Are all these shots producing healthier kids? According to the data, no. Are we allowed to even ask? Also, no.

Some parents who've asked too many questions about the recommended vaccine schedule can find themselves reported to Child Protection Services. Or they will get kicked out of their pediatrician's office for not being compliant. This is America, the land of the free. Parents are being held hostage. They did not sign up to co-parent with the government. We want a divorce.
But there's more. Remember when I said that my generation had our first period at 13 or 15? Today little girls are starting their periods at 8 or 9 and they are getting pubic hair as young as 5 or 6. Is it their drinking water, their food, chemicals and personal care products that other countries have banned? Don't ask, don't tell.

Girls are still being pressured to get on birth control, by the way, without informed consent, but now they get the added bonus of an antidepressant to go with it. Two for one special. Just to reiterate the war on moms in this country, today virtually everything a child eats or drinks will be served on a plastic plate in a plastic bottle or be eaten from a plastic container with plastic utensils. Human breast milk now contains thousands of microplastics.
If you need formula, you can't find it without inflammatory seed oils or soy. Parents have to order it and buy it from Europe. Does this all seem overwhelming to you? Good. This is what the American mom deals with every day.
The typical American parent today has to worry about a job, about their children's education, about all the things that a parent has always had to worry about.

They shouldn't also have to deal with the added stress of finding the poison that lurks in almost everything their child eats or drinks. The American dream is that a parent will be able to raise children who are better off than themselves. But now that dream is vanishing, not just on an economic level, but a biological one. Unless we break this spiral, we will fall into a death spiral of unhealthy parents raising even more unhealthy kids that will bankrupt this country. As RFK Jr. has said, the last thing standing between a child and an industry full of corruption is a mom. Let's make it easier for them."




I think this sums up my point.

Who is Alex Clarke? What is her training and expertise that allows her to stand out as a source of "conflicting evidence "?

Or is she just another podcaster with opinions?



It really doesn't matter who she is other than the fact that she is a person. Contrary to your opinion there is no compulsory curriculum that has to be adhered to in order to voice observations.

Health outcomes in today's western world are concerning to put it lightly. There is a crisis. And it's actually quite satisfying to see that it is finally getting some political attention.

Allbeit by a mental giant who played a pivotal role in achieving environmental goals that the state funded burocracy deemed too difficult because the damage was done by powerful corporations.

D3
WA, 1506 posts
3 Oct 2024 4:54AM
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" there is no compulsory curriculum that has to be adhered to in order to voice observations. "

Correct.

But as someone who has no training or expertise in Health or Nutrition, the opinions and information she shares on her podcast are just that.
Conflicting opinions and observations, not Conflicting Evidence.

And yet, she's invited as some kind of expert to participate in a Congressional Roundtable on American Health and Nutrition.
In fact, most of the people invited don't have qualifications or expertise in Health and Nutrition (there was at least one MD and a couple of Psychs), instead most of them are on-line "Wellness" personaloties selling their onwn brands of unregulated (and generally unproven) supplements.

japie
NSW, 7145 posts
3 Oct 2024 8:20AM
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D3 said..
" there is no compulsory curriculum that has to be adhered to in order to voice observations. "

Correct.

But as someone who has no training or expertise in Health or Nutrition, the opinions and information she shares on her podcast are just that.
Conflicting opinions and observations, not Conflicting Evidence.

And yet, she's invited as some kind of expert to participate in a Congressional Roundtable on American Health and Nutrition.
In fact, most of the people invited don't have qualifications or expertise in Health and Nutrition (there was at least one MD and a couple of Psychs), instead most of them are on-line "Wellness" personaloties selling their onwn brands of unregulated (and generally unproven) supplements.


There is an obvious reason for that.

The NIH, MHRA in the UK, AIHW ( or whatever it is called) here in Australia have been the arbiters of health for a long time. There is a very very strong argument that the tax payer who has been funding them have been seriously diddled. As is evidenced by the state of health of the average jimmy on the street.

Seriously! Plonk yourself down on
a bench in a busy shopping centre and just look at the people. It's frightening and it is all ages! What is even more frightening is that the working man is going to be forking out to try to prolong the lives of these specimens!

The bureaucrats have been taking money under false pretences. If people like Alex did NOT stand up and shout the situation would not change.

Take a look at that revolting specimen in the US, Peter Hotez! With him in charge of the show any wonder people are on a descending spiral of ailing diseasedness!

FormulaNova
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3 Oct 2024 7:39AM
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I did go to boarding school. It was English although it was located in Tanzania.

I've a keen sense of humour. There is nothing more satisfying than watching a stuffed shirt(s) making a Pratt of himself.


Your vocabulary again makes this obvious. I used to work with a guy that spoke similarly, but at least in his case he was just a lot of hot air with very little substance. He did go to the right school though, which was the most important thing for him, and for getting jobs from the old boys apparently.

How does someone make a Pratt of himself? Changing his name? Marrying into the family and taking the wife's name?

As for senses of humour, they vary so much. I think they are highly dependent on the person and their audience. It's like saying 'someone must have a good sense of humour'. The same person could have you laughing non-stop and another person could be cringing in embarrasment.

japie
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3 Oct 2024 11:28AM
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Pratt is a pommie thing. Might be prat. The boarding school was the boarding school from hell. St Michaels in Soni. Run by the Rosminian order. It features on the internet.

Kiddy fiddlers. Hence my interest in things depraved and the motivations for.

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3 Oct 2024 10:08AM
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FormulaNova said..
How does someone make a Pratt of himself? Changing his name? Marrying into the family and taking the wife's name?

Prat
Basically someone whos a major idiot, or is delusional and dumb. Acts against logic and thinks hes self-righteous. AKA: Major dumbass.

Example Usage
"FormulaNova must like the sound of his own voice, posting all this rubbish on Seabreeze daily. What a prat."

FormulaNova
WA, 15086 posts
3 Oct 2024 11:21AM
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FormulaNova said..
How does someone make a Pratt of himself? Changing his name? Marrying into the family and taking the wife's name?

Prat
Basically someone whos a major idiot, or is delusional and dumb. Acts against logic and thinks hes self-righteous. AKA: Major dumbass.

Example Usage
"FormulaNova must like the sound of his own voice, posting all this rubbish on Seabreeze daily. What a prat."


I think a better explanation would be myscreenname/kiteboydave is a bit of a loser and needs to stop wasting time with multiple logins on Seabreeze. For someone so happy with his life, he doesn't seem to actually be happy. When you need two logins to start arguing with yourself, you know something is wrong, right?

Oh hang on. Sorry, I forgot what I was talking about again... it happens with old age.

In English, capitalising something often means its a proper noun, i.e. a name. The clear use of "Pratt" in this context, with two tees has both a capital and the wrong spelling of 'prat'. Maybe Japie has someone he has had history with called 'Pratt'? Who knows.

I watch enough English TV programs to know what the word 'prat' means.



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