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evlPanda
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5 Mar 2008 6:37pm
NotWal said...

evlPanda said...

NotWal said...


Aren't they intended to help people with meditation by giving them an insoluble puzzle to contemplate when they are supposed to be meditating?


WTF is an insoluble puzzle?


As much as I hate to Panda to bating Dr Evil I will go to the dictionary just for you....

in·sol·u·ble Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[in-sol-yuh-buhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective
1. incapable of being dissolved: insoluble salts.
2. incapable of being solved or explained: an insoluble problem.


I'm still not sure, all my puzzles dissolve in water.
NotWal
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5 Mar 2008 7:45pm


I'm still not sure, all my puzzles dissolve in water.


Mine disolve in beer. lots of it.

nebbian
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6 Mar 2008 3:21pm
Hey Harry,

Have you come across the Stephenville, Texas UFO yet? (Appeared above an airport on Jan 19, also Feb 9, lots of people saw it and took photos/videos)

Here's one video:
www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/3218/

Some more info:
www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1384&category=Environment



BoDiddly
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6 Mar 2008 6:42pm
Check out:

Damninteresting.com

That's a good read!
evlPanda
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6 Mar 2008 8:01pm
nebbian said...

Hey Harry,

Have you come across the Stephenville, Texas UFO yet? (Appeared above an airport on Jan 19, also Feb 9, lots of people saw it and took photos/videos)

Here's one video:
www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/3218/

Some more info:
www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1384&category=Environment



I think people have seen UFOs. That is a video camera on low light settings pointing at... almost anything. Sorry, but worst UFO vid ever.

Samb0
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6 Mar 2008 9:38pm
harrytesties said...

noticed today that the latest edition of 'new dawn' magazine again has a story on the fact and fallacies of fluoride.......


Got a copy at my newsagent. Never read this magazine before. Good article on fluoride, as well as many others. Pretty interesting piece on the global economy. Talking in trillions is just such obscene amounts of money.

I gotta say there has been quite a variety of subject matter brought up on this discussion that I did not expect. Some funny items, others off the subject but great reading , plenty to think about and question. That UFO video looks to me like night sky graffiti. (love this spell check)
Did anyone notice if the patterns that were in focus repeated or were they all different?

Chemotherapy, now that's a real money making poison!
harrytesties
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6 Mar 2008 11:41pm
hey another really great read is uncensored magazine, like new dawn, nexus and hard evidence, but glossy well put together and welll referenced so you can take each article further and make up your own mind, its a quarterly new zealand mag, new ones just about out now.... if you're even a little bit interested in knowing what really might actually be happening in the world whilst we are obsessed with wind, check it out...... www.uncensored.co.nz
evlPanda
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7 Mar 2008 12:03pm
If that was a UFO vid these are aliens:
(can't reference some flickr images anymore, tricky. You'll have to click)

www.flickr.com/photos/johnwhite/367901857/

(really good pic by the way, ,worth the click)
nebbian
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7 Mar 2008 10:21am
Maybe Mr. Panda, but consider this:

Many people (in the region of a dozen) people took photos and videos of this event, all described it the same way, the videos match up from different angles, and it's not something I've come across before.

Those images aren't individual frames of the video, the symbols were each projected for around half a second. You can see this when the operator zooms in -- each symbol is shown for around 12 consecutive frames.

Maybe someone set up a big hot air balloon with a whole heap of those LED strings, and a controller to make it not repeat the same pattern twice... but to do this near an airport takes guts. I'm reasonably certain that something was in the air at that time, but whether it was aliens is another story.
stribo
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7 Mar 2008 12:28pm
Interesting how the lights are forming symbols.Similar lights have been seen forming crop circles..........I wonder if some crop circles where found nearby or have been found in the area before...

Que Xfiles theme song....
Mark _australia
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7 Mar 2008 11:53am
I couldn't be bothered watching a long video when I'm on slowband.
Sounds interesting as the same thing was seen in Mexico and Texas a few days apart right?
harrytesties
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7 Mar 2008 1:07pm
for all things ufo, dealt with the honest skepticism that these things deserve check out www.rense.com .... towards the bottom of the page, there is a heading.... 'this month in ufo history'....
now, i have had an interest in this topic for many many years, have seen many things i cannot explain, and have spoken to many many people, whom, in their own right are considered contributing upstanding members of their communities, not flaky attention seeking whackos', who have also had their own unexplainable experiences... take a look, if you have time, at old news papers from the fifties and sixties, take note of how many stories there are of 'flying saucers' or 'flying disks'.. why are stories such as these no longer appearing in newspapers...? there are still hundreds if not thousands of sightings each year, in australia alone! google search... the battle of los angles 1942.... and then visit this site.... www.disclosureproject.org ..... and then if you really want to walk on the trippy side of things, check this out... www.zetatalk.com
evlPanda
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7 Mar 2008 3:26pm
nebbian said...

Maybe Mr. Panda, but consider this:

Many people (in the region of a dozen) people took photos and videos of this event, all described it the same way, the videos match up from different angles, and it's not something I've come across before.



Must've been really, really amazing because at around 4:30 in the video somebody is nagging the videographer, or Eric, to come back inside to finish the game.

My guess - Lasers.

stribo
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7 Mar 2008 2:49pm
They must have had their inertia canceler on full bore after they disengaged the wormhole excavator.
Samb0
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10 Mar 2008 9:22pm
harrytesties said...

hey another really great read is uncensored magazine, like new dawn, nexus and hard evidence, but glossy well put together and welll referenced so you can take each article further and make up your own mind, its a quarterly new zealand mag, new ones just about out now.... if you're even a little bit interested in knowing what really might actually be happening in the world whilst we are obsessed with wind, check it out...... www.uncensored.co.nz


Got it! Yes some amazing articles. Good read
pweedas
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10 Mar 2008 10:36pm
Geez Sambo. Are you still alive?
Didn't they start the fluoridation last week?
I thought at the very least you would have been in hospital suffering from toxic shock.
rattman
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11 Mar 2008 9:36am
pweedas said...

Geez Sambo. Are you still alive?
Didn't they start the fluoridation last week?
I thought at the very least you would have been in hospital suffering from toxic shock.



Maybe somewhere did start, but 80% of qld will have it done in 2 years, 90% within 4 years. 26/02 was when the planning for fluoridation was to be announced and budget done for it.

The end of this document
www.health.qld.gov.au/fluoride/document/fluoride_120208.pdf has the actual order of treatment (not the actual day)
Samb0
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11 Mar 2008 9:40am


yep still here!

Samb0
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11 Mar 2008 10:57am
pweedas said...

Geez Sambo. Are you still alive?
Didn't they start the fluoridation last week?
I thought at the very least you would have been in hospital suffering from toxic shock.



Have you ever been in hospital suffering from toxic shock Pweedas? I have and it sure ain't fun.
pweedas
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11 Mar 2008 1:29pm
Samb0 said...

pweedas said...

Geez Sambo. Are you still alive?
Didn't they start the fluoridation last week?
I thought at the very least you would have been in hospital suffering from toxic shock.



Have you ever been in hospital suffering from toxic shock Pweedas? I have and it sure ain't fun.


What happened? Did you drink too much?
Tell me more.
evlPanda
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11 Mar 2008 3:36pm
My wife used to vomit at the colour orange. True story. (weird or what???)

I wish people would have more consideration for people in this predicament. The Netherlands in particular.
Samb0
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11 Mar 2008 5:16pm
pweedas said...

Samb0 said...

pweedas said...

Geez Sambo. Are you still alive?
Didn't they start the fluoridation last week?
I thought at the very least you would have been in hospital suffering from toxic shock.



Have you ever been in hospital suffering from toxic shock Pweedas? I have and it sure ain't fun.


What happened? Did you drink too much?
Tell me more.


I was given a chemotherapy poison called "Bleomycin" that I am allergic to and it almost killed me. Shivering and hot at the same time, breathing but not getting any oxygen, was the worst day of my life. Don't even like to think about it. Chemo is a very barbaric and cruel "treatment" .
pweedas
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11 Mar 2008 6:06pm
Samb0 said...

pweedas said...
What happened? Did you drink too much?
Tell me more.


I was given a chemotherapy poison called "Bleomycin" that I am allergic to and it almost killed me. Shivering and hot at the same time, breathing but not getting any oxygen, was the worst day of my life. Don't even like to think about it. Chemo is a very barbaric and cruel "treatment" .


Holy Moly!
I wont argue with you there.
There was a big blue recently about the worthlessness of chemotherapy.
The results from some research by an Australian doctor ( I think his name was Prof Morgan) going through buckets of records showed a minimal benefit attributable to chemo but because of the way the results are presented, it made it look as though they had a 50% success rate.
The argument went something like this.
Those who underwent chemotherapy had a 4.5% recovery rate.
Those who didn't had a 3% recovery rate.
Those pushing the chemo barrow therefore claimed a 50% improvement, (which is technically true ), but the gullible joe bloggs takes this as meaning he has a 50% chance of recovery.
Wrong!
He has a 4.5% chance of recovery, which is only slightly better than the recovery rate if he went home and took an asprin and enjoyed the rest of his life, rather than being slowly poisoned by chemo.

Naturally, his report was not received with great praise from the medical profession in Australia. But oddly enough, he was given quite a good hearing in the USA and I believe they are looking into it further.

There was an interview on Radio National with a representative from the chemo group and he was saying that the test results were misinterpretted and that the success rate for chemo was much better than that.
When asked to put a figure on it he said "Something like 5 percent."
Well, even if that is true, it is still a pitifully poor success rate.

So if ever such an option is presented to me I will be asking what the absolute success rate is, not what some phony 'relative' success rate is.

But getting back to the fluoride, I don't think you will get that effect from a bit of fluoride in the water.
The past 40 years of fluoridation in WA has not presented as a deluge of toxic shock victims.
It has resulted in most people having much better teeth however, even when some kids seem to live on coke, lollies and chips.


pweedas
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11 Mar 2008 6:23pm
I just did a quick google to see if I could find the report.
If anyone is interested you can start here and follow it up.

www.simplyefficient.com.au/Newsletters/October07.htm

You might think that it doesn't concern you because you don't have cancer and you will look into it if and when you need to.
I can tell you that if you are given a diagnosis of anything like that your first reaction is one of shock and an urgency to do something about it fast.
Under those conditions you will probably do exactly what the doctor recommends because, after all, he's a doctor.
If you have a better appreciation of the situation you will be in a better position to make an informed decision rather than just blindly follow all the other sheep and go through the sheep dip.

{edit}
Also found a transcript of ABC interview with Prof Graeme Morgan.
very long but interesting. (well I think so.)

www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/8.30/helthrpt/stories/s1348333.htm

Rex
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11 Mar 2008 7:05pm
Thanks pweedas, I know someone that is facing that and will be very interested in the article.
Samb0
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11 Mar 2008 8:24pm
There are many much less invasive ways of treating cancer than chemotherapy but the establishment won't use them because there is so much money in chemo, in fact more people are making money from cancer than there are people dying from it.

www.1cure4cancer.com/controlcancer/information/natureofcancer/daybooks.html


harrytesties
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11 Mar 2008 11:27pm
www.cancertutor.com www.drday.com ...
pweedas
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12 Mar 2008 12:08am
hairytesties said...

www.cancertutor.com www.drday.com ...


This site here that Hairy has listed ( www.cancertutor.com ) mentions Dr Simoncini in Italy who has been working with the idea that cancer is initiated by a fungal infection of the candida variety. When I first heard this I thought he had slipped his trolley but the more I read on it, the more I think he might be onto something. He is not getting a lot of support from mainstream medicine at the moment because the cure is some sodium bicarbonate therapy, which is just ordinary baking soda.
And as you might imagine, a drug company is not going to make a killing flogging baking soda. So you can bet they are not cheering him on in any way.

He also doesn't seem to be in it to make a fortune for himself so that is another big plus when I try and assess the worth of an idea someone is pushing. It appears everything he finds is available for all to try anywhere in the world.

He has a website you can look up ( google simoncini sodium bicarbonate), and a few clips on u choob.
I think there is a clinic at Midland (WA) which is doing a few trials on the therapy as well.

You might say that it is still a form of chemotherapy. That is true.
The big difference is it has NO bad side effects. They give sodium Bicarbonate to babies to stop some fungal infections and it is completely safe.

Also, Sambo & Hairy, stop saying things that I have to agree with and say something silly that I can argue about!

{another edit}
Incidentally, someone I know who was diagnosed with advanced prostate cancer 10 years ago and recommended to undergo all the usual ops, chemo etc, told them all to go jump, quit his job and de-stressed completely and took up drinking green tea! Plus healthy diet. No other treatment at all.

After a couple of years it had completely gone and 10 years later, i.e. now, he is still free of it.
harrytesties
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12 Mar 2008 10:15am
well if you really want to niggle, its actually harry, not hairy, but anyway, i too know of people, males with prostate cancer, who have given the finger to mainstream upon diagnosis and have cured themselves... one very inspirational old fellow simply went on a hunger strike, for sixty days he ate nothing but freshly squeezed juices (he squeezed himself, or his daughter in law did), and when he went back to the clinic, the medico said the cancer had dissappeared, but would not go as far to say that he cured himself...... after sixty days, he tells me the first thing he wants to eat is a bananna, he kept himself positive and motivated by thinking of all the 'good' stuff he was gonna pig out on, and all he could bring himself to eat was a bananna.... years on i still see him at longevity meetings
CRAZYTAXI
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12 Mar 2008 11:31am

Harry said
years on i still see him at longevity meetings


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