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pweedas
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8 Feb 2009 4:09pm
Sambo! You're still alive!!!! It's a miracle!!

I thought from what you have been telling us that you would surely be dead by now from fluoride poisoning. Even drinking bottled water I thought you would be dead from the tap water fumes and maybe kissing people who actually drink tap water.
I will drop back next year and check for your more recent posts. So if you are still alive be sure to post one otherwise I will take it that you have succumbed to the dreaded fluoride poisoning.
theDoctor
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8 Feb 2009 6:48pm
sarcasm.... i smell sarcasm
pweedas
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8 Feb 2009 5:20pm
theDoctor said...

sarcasm.... i smell sarcasm


No. I think that's probably just my under odour de armament not working too well in this hot weather. I will fix it up right now doctor with a quick swim perhaps.
evlPanda
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9 Feb 2009 5:54pm
Hang on hang on...
If it's industrial waste they can't get rid of...?

Nnnneeeeeooooooowwwwwww. There goes the logic train.
theDoctor
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9 Feb 2009 7:15pm
and there's the clincher.... there is no logic to it, yet 'they' still do it.

and tell you straight faced that it is safe.

yet tell you with the same straight face not to mix infant formula with fluoride water because the fluoride makes it unsafe.
and tell you also not to let children swallow fluoride toothpaste and to supervise their brushing, because ingesting fluoride toothpaste is unsafe.

..... how will they regulate how much fluoride a person is ingesting by just dumping it in the watersupply....?

will thirsty people be more affected..?

what about thirsty infants...?

what about people who take baths as opposed to those who shower, will they be absorbing more fluoride..?

i'm no constitutional expert but, is it not illegal for this government to mass medicate a population against their will....?

at the very least, if you're not concerned about the health effects of long term fluoride exposure,questioning the legality of fluoride in the water, will get you out of having to pay another water bill, ever....(well goin' on four years now anyway)

nevermind that fluoride is used in cockroach baits and as a rat poison... maybe thats why rats have such strong teeth.. (i threw in that sarcsm bit for you pweedas)
Samb0
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9 Feb 2009 8:02pm
pweedas said...

Sambo! You're still alive!!!! It's a miracle!!

I thought from what you have been telling us that you would surely be dead by now from fluoride poisoning. Even drinking bottled water I thought you would be dead from the tap water fumes and maybe kissing people who actually drink tap water.
I will drop back next year and check for your more recent posts. So if you are still alive be sure to post one otherwise I will take it that you have succumbed to the dreaded fluoride poisoning.



I have been poisoned by worse than that, try cisplatin , etoposide, and bleomycin. Oh that bleo is great stuff! I'm sure you'd like it.
Samb0
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9 Feb 2009 9:45pm
'Allo! 'Allo! Wot's going on in OZ?



www.ukcaf.org/


evlPanda
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10 Feb 2009 12:11pm
theDoctor said...

and there's the clincher.... there is no logic to it, yet 'they' still do it.


You missed the train.

"...helped industry get rid of waste it could not discard into the ocean or landfill."

Why can't industry discard it as landfill but can discard it into the water supply?
This doesn't make any sense. If you say "yes" you have missed the logic train yet again.

This is like a joke that you are just not getting. Do you get it?

... and then I read about dihydrogen monoxide.
evlPanda
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10 Feb 2009 12:19pm
Poor Relative: Can you send me a face palm, I need one. Why am I bothering?
wave knave
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10 Feb 2009 10:49am
maybe its not about getting rid of industrial waste, or preventing tooth decay....


'' Fluoridation
Mind Control of the Masses

By Ian E. Stephens
From an article in Nexus Magazine August/September 95

Despite damning evidence on fluoride toxicity, bureaucracies and multinationals continue to pollute our drinking water and mess with our physical and mental health

Extracted with permission from his 1987
self-published booklet The Dickinson Statement:
A Mind-Bogging Thesis

Part 1

This story has a beginning, it has a middle but it has no ending. The 'ending' will undoubtedly be written in countless hospital records, on tiny gravestones, in the bones of the crippled and on the hearts of the bereaved. Even so, the true cause of the 'ending' will never be advertised. One record that slipped past the establishment net is duplicated herein but, believe it or not, the existence of this 'death certificate' has been denied, in writing and to overseas scientific inquiry, by Australian administrators.

What follows is but a fractional part of the 'middle' of a story that began before the turn of the century and which was provoked by a statement contained in an "Address in Reply to the Governor's Speech to Parliament", as recorded in Victorian Hansard of 12 August 1987, by Mr. Harley Rivers Dickinson, Liberal Party Member of the Victorian Parliament for South Barwon. Hence the title.

The relevant Hansard abstract is reproduced herewith. It is emphasized that the writer imputes Mr. Dickinson with no other responsibility for the contents of this thesis than being the parliamentary 'trigger' which motivated it and the researched data which it contains.

"At the end of the Second World War, the United States Government sent Charles Eliot Perkins, a research worker in chemistry, biochemistry, physiology and pathology, to take charge of the vast Farben chemical plants in Germany.

"While there he was told by German chemists of a scheme which had been worked out by them during the war and adopted by the German General Staff.

"This was to control the population in any given area through mass medication of drinking water. In this scheme, sodium fluoride occupied a prominent place.

"Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluoride will in time reduce an individual's power to resist domination by slowly poisoning and narcotizing a certain area of the brain and will thus make him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him. "Both the Germans and the Russians added sodium fluoride to the drinking water of prisoners of war to make them stupid and docile."

In a book written by Dr Hans Moolenburgh of Haarlem, Holland, called Fluoride - The Freedom Fight, the author describes the ultimately successful endeavors to free the Dutch people from water fluoridation. (Those endeavors included the only properly conducted double-blind study ever done anywhere in the world into the effects of tap water [1 p.p.m.].) ......''
evlPanda
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10 Feb 2009 2:18pm
Well that explains emos.
Samb0
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10 Feb 2009 8:44pm
Hinterland Voice. February "09








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Wannabe
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8 Mar 2009 12:51pm


Samb0
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8 Mar 2009 11:04am
Wannabe said...






So I guess I will interpret that as OMG?
Samb0
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Samb0
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26 Mar 2009 10:40am

At least some people have the morals guts and principles to fight this absurd fraud!

www.coffscoastadvocate.com.au/story/2009/03/24/fluoride-protestors-vow-to-fight-on/


www.democracycentral.org.au

Samb0
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12 Apr 2009 5:25pm
New DVD available:


://www.fluoridealert.org/&feature=player_embedded





the fish
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13 Apr 2009 7:52am
harrytesties said...

for all things ufo, dealt with the honest skepticism that these things deserve check out www.rense.com .... towards the bottom of the page, there is a heading.... 'this month in ufo history'....
now, i have had an interest in this topic for many many years, have seen many things i cannot explain, and have spoken to many many people, whom, in their own right are considered contributing upstanding members of their communities, not flaky attention seeking whackos', who have also had their own unexplainable experiences... take a look, if you have time, at old news papers from the fifties and sixties, take note of how many stories there are of 'flying saucers' or 'flying disks'.. why are stories such as these no longer appearing in newspapers...? there are still hundreds if not thousands of sightings each year, in australia alone! google search... the battle of los angles 1942.... and then visit this site.... www.disclosureproject.org ..... and then if you really want to walk on the trippy side of things, check this out... www.zetatalk.com



mate you have way to much time on your hands-you should take up a watersport.

Are you one of those smokers who complain that you are being poisoned by car fumes?
why not just put in a rainwater tank and be the only "normal" one amongst us.
As the saying goes
"in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king".
But that probably wouldnt work as George W Bush has put flouride in the clouds as well.

For a (reputedly)dumb fkr he sure is credited with an awful lot of "mischief"!
myusernam
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13 Apr 2009 10:46am
i found it on the internet so it must be true....
Samb0
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Samb0
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22 Apr 2009 8:59am


www.baff.org.au

I hope you people in Barwon come out in full force on this one!








evlPanda
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22 Apr 2009 12:44pm
Samb0
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15 May 2009 8:19pm



BLUNDERING IDIOTS!


www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,25483547-952,00.html

www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/05/14/2570851.htm

THIS HIDEOUS ABSURD FRAUDULENT PRACTICE NEEDS TO BE STOPPED !!!!!!





Samb0
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19 May 2009 2:23pm


Over dosing mentioned in this article.


www.juneauempire.com/stories/011508/opi_20080115024.shtml







theDoctor
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19 May 2009 8:09pm
DRINK CRAP AND EAT CRAP... THEREFORE YOU ARE CRAP

SOMETHING WORTH READING-------
CANOLA OIL - RAPE IN A DIFFERENT GUISE
Before you buy your next bottle of cooking oil...
I think it's important that as many people as possible KNOW about the origins of this product. Then, if you choose to buy it, at least you're doing so with your eyes open.

Dear Editors

Recently I bought a cooking oil that's new to our supermarkets, Canola Oil. I tried it because the label assured me it was lowest in "bad" fats.

However, when I had used half the bottle, I concluded that the label told me surprisingly little else and I started to wonder: where does canola oil come from? Olive oil comes from olives, peanut oil from peanuts, sunflower oil from sunflowers; but what is a canola? There was nothing on the label to enlighten me, which I thought odd. So, I did some investigating on the Internet. There are plenty of official Canola sites lauding this new "wonder" oil with all its low-fat health benefits. It takes a little longer to find sites that tell the less palatable details.

Here are just a few facts everyone should know before buying anything containing canola. Canola is not the name of a natural plant but a made-up word, from the words "Canada" and "oil". Canola is a genetically engineered plant developed in Canada from the Rapeseed Plant, which is part of the mustard family of plants. According to AgriAlternatives, The Online Innovation, and Technology Magazine for Farmers, "By nature, these rapeseed oils, which have long been used to produce oils for industrial purposes, are... toxic to humans and other animals". (This, by the way, is one of the websites singing the praises of the new canola industry.)

Rapeseed oil is poisonous to living things and is an excellent insect repellent. I have been using it (in very diluted form, as per instructions) to kill the aphids on my roses for the last two years. It works very well; it suffocates them. Ask for it at your nursery. Rape is an oil that is used as a lubricant, fuel, soap and synthetic rubber base and as a illuminate for color pages in magazines. It is an industrial oil. It is not a food. Rape oil, it seems, causes emphysema, respiratory distress, anemia, constipation, irritability, and blindness in animals and humans. Rape oil was widely used in animal feeds in England and Europe between 1986 and 1991, when it was thrown out. Remember the "Mad Cow disease" scare, when millions of cattle in the UK were slaughtered in case of infecting humans? Cattle were being fed on a mixture containing material from dead sheep, and sheep suffer from a disease called "scrapie". It was thought this was how "Mad Cow" began and started to infiltrate the human chain. What is interesting is that when rape oil was removed from animal feed, 'scrapie' disappeared.

We also haven't seen any further reports of "Mad Cow" since rape oil was removed from the feed. Perhaps not scientifically proven, but interesting all the same. US and Canadian farmers grow genetically engineered rapeseed and manufacturers use its oil (canola) in thousands of processed foods, with the blessings of Canadian and US government watchdog agencies. The canola supporting websites say that canola is safe to use. They admit it was developed from the rapeseed, but insist that through genetic engineering it is no longer rapeseed, but "canola" instead.

Except canola means "Canadian oil"; and the plant is still a rape plant, albeit genetically modified. The new name provides perfect cover for commercial interests wanting to make millions. Look at the ingredients list on labels. Apparently peanut oil is being replaced with rape oil. You'll find it in an alarming number of processed foods. There's more, but to conclude: rape oil was the source of the chemical warfare agent mustard gas, which was banned after blistering the lungs and skins of hundred of thousands of soldiers and civilians during W.W.I. Recent French reports indicate that it was again in use during the Gulf War.

Check products for ingredients. If the label says, "may contain the following" and lists canola oil, you know it contains canola oil because is the cheapest oil and the Canadian government subsidizes it to industries involved in food processing.

I don't know what you'll be cooking with tonight, but I'll be using olive oil and old-fashioned butter, from a genetically unmodified cow.
Here is more information.......... Canola oil from the rape seed, referred to as the Canadian oil because Canada is mainly responsible for it being marketed in the USA. The Canadian government and industry paid our Federal Food and Drug Administration (FDA) $50 million dollars to have canola oil placed on the (GRAS) List, "Generally Recognized As Safe". Thus a new industry was created. Laws were enacted affecting international trade, commerce, and traditional diets. Studies with lab. animals were disastrous. Rats developed fatty degeneration of heart, kidney, adrenals, and thyroid gland. When canola oil was withdrawn from their diets, the deposits dissolved but scar tissue remained on all vital organs. No studies on humans were made before money was spent to promote Canola oil in the USA. Adrenoleukodystrophy (ALD) is a rare fatal degenerative disease caused by a build up long-chain fatty acids (c22 to c28) which destroys the myelin (protective sheath) of the nerves. Canola oil is a very long chain fatty a acid oil (c22). Those who will defend canola oil say that the Chinese and Indians have used it for centuries with no effect, however it was in an unrefined form (taken from FATS THAT HEAL AND FATS THAT KILL by Udo Erasmus). My cholesterol level was 150. After a year using Canola oil I tested 260. I
switched back to pure olive oil and it has taken 5 years to get it down to 160. Thus began this project to find answers since most Doctors will say that Canola oil is O.K.

My sister spilled Canola oil on a piece of fabric, after 5 pre-treatings and harsh washings, the oil spot still showed. She stopped using Canola oil, wondering what it did to our insides if it could not be removed from cloth easily.

Our Father bred birds, always checking labels to insure there was no rape seed in their food. He said, "The birds will eat it, but they do not live very long.". A friend, who worked for only 9 mo. as a quality control taster at an apple-chip factory where Canola oil was used exclusively for frying, developed numerous health problems. These included loose teeth & gum disease; numb hands and
feet; swollen arms and legs upon rising in the morning; extreme joint pain especially in hands, cloudy vision, constipation with stools like black marbles, hearing loss; skin tears from being bumped; lack of energy; hair loss and heart pains. It has been five years since she has worked there and still has some joint pain, gum disease, and numbness. A fellow worker, about 30 years old, who ate very little product, had a routine check up and found that his blood vessels were like those of an 80 year old man. Two employees fed the waste product to baby calves and their hair fell out. After removing the fried apple chips from the diet their hair grew back in.
My daughter and her girls were telling jokes. Stephanie hit her mom's arm with the back of a butter knife in a gesture, "Oh mom" not hard enough to hurt. My daughters arm split open like it was rotten. She called me to ask what could have caused it. I said, "I'll bet anything that you are using Canola oil". Sure enough, there was a big gallon jug in the pantry.

Rape seed oil is a penetrating oil, to be used in light industry, not for human consumption. It contains a toxic substance. Even after the processing to reduce the erucic acid content, it is still a penetrating oil. We have found that it turns rancid very fast. Also it leaves a residual rancid odor on clothing.

Rape seed oil used for stir-frying in China found to emit cancer causing chemicals. (Rapeseed oil smoke causes lung cancer) Amal Kumar Maj. The Wall Street JournaL June 7, 1995 pB6(W) pB6 (E) col 1(11 col in). Compiled
by Darleen Bradley.

Canola oil is a health hazard to use as a cooking oil or salad oil. It is not the healthy oil we thought it was. It is not fit for human consumption, do not eat canola oil, it can hurt you. Polyunsaturated or not, this is a bad oil.

Be Sure to also read this informative report written by leading health expert Tom Valentine, Canola Oil Report. </columns/canola2f.htm>
Go to Ask Jeeves yourself: www.askjeeves.com/ <www.askjeeves.com/>; and type in = (Where does Canola Oil come from?) and see what you come up with.
Happy Frying,
Samb0
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21 May 2009 6:58pm
Is that why it is called con-nola? We are being conned on so many fraudulent claims ,hydrogenated fats to resemble butter, whether it be so called food, medicine, PVC , I am that Canadaola is not an edible oil. Will certainly make more of an effort to avoid this oil and anything cooked in it. Maybe that is why I don't enjoy hot chips any more.! Once the chips are in my guts it doesn't feel so good. Gees how many fish and chip shops use this crap! Might be ok to burn in your diesel engine though.

I do make sure that the items I make to eat at home are made with butter or extra virgin olive oil, virgin coconut oil is lovely too!

Excellent item to bring attention to Doctor!




CRAZYTAXI
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tatkins
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22 May 2009 3:24pm
Chk Chk Boom..........Doctor's theory blown away!

and i thought the Doctor had done some serious research.

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