Mark _australia said...

Anyway. My marriage started off gay and now it isn't.

So you can have both. In fact it seems to be the norm

Are you married to a transexual?

adolf said...


My question is... what are the actual benefits?

I don't see the point myself, but I imagine it's the highest form of 'symbolically official' commitment between two people. Or maybe it's just they get to have a special day, rather than just fill out some boring tax forms..

Also it might appeal to them because people are against them doing it, which could be considered a result of them not being fully 'accepted' into society.

I'm all for it simply because it'll piss a bunch of people off.

...

The people who are most against gays are actually striking out in an attempt to repress their own desires..

“Nothing optional--from homosexuality to adultery--is ever made punishable unless those who do the prohibiting (and exact the fierce punishments) have a repressed desire to participate. As Shakespeare put it in 'King Lear', the policeman who lashes the whore has a hot need to use her for the very offense for which he plies the lash.”
― Christopher Hitchens,

laceys lane said...

i personally don't think its fair to the children to be raised in a same sex relationship that they have no choice in. i get the impression its more about their desires then the children

I personally don't think it's fair to children to be raised by:
dolebludgers
druggos
alcos
physically/mentally abusive parents
fighting or divorcing parents
teenagers
various other stereotypes

^^^ It's all about their desires not the children. However... short of physical abuse being noticed, society doesn't have much of a say in any of those cases.

At least a homarried (?) lesbi-hitched (?) couple really really wants that child and will treat it with great love and affection. They would generally be financially secure as well. Two loving happy parents and a stable loving home is probably what counts most.

adolf said...

stamp said...

adolf said...

Can someone tell me the difference in being married or not as to how it affects your life?

I've been married for 20 years, and the certificate that proves it from the State of Nevada, Las Vegas, with Elvis Presley embossed in the cover means very little to me.

It was the unwritten agreement that we made as partners, between us that cemented our bond.

Why would anyone need to get married?

it's not about marriage itself, it's about having the same options as everyone else. no one actually needs to be married

My question is... what are the actual benefits?

I don't know about here, but in italy, at least until a couple years ago even if you lived with your partner (straight or homo) for 40 years, if he/she got sick you wouldn't be able to took decisions in hospital, you couldn't take care of her/his children, you couldn't inherit like a married couple. so, in this case it makes total sense.

@laceys lane: I really don't understand why a gay couple couldn't be just as good as a straight couple to raise a child.

-it's not like "if a child is raised by gay it'll become gay", since I'm pretty sure a lot of gays are born in straight families...
-if it's about the "other kids teasing the child" I'd suggest to also eliminate kids with glasses, shorties, gingers, fatties...
-if it's about the "growing up with messed up values", first of all don't believe gay people goes around "indoctrinating" other people to become gay (even because it's not exactly a choice... I don't choose to like women, I just get boners when I see nicky whelan), secondly I can guarantee you that growing up in a straight family can mess you up just as easily.

Of course there might be gay people that are unsuitable to be parents, but I don't believe they are more than there are straight people unsuitable to be parents.

my 2 cents

i cant see y not

Mobydisc said...

Mark _australia said...

Anyway. My marriage started off gay and now it isn't.

So you can have both. In fact it seems to be the norm

Are you married to a transexual?

Im pretty sure he meant "Gay" as the proper Adjective, meaning "having or showing a merry, lively mood" which was the word that was adopted to describe the temperament of homosexual men.
A man can be Gay without being homosexual and a Homosexual can be a homosexual without being Gay.
Gay is such a Gay word.
A ****** is used to describe a Gay man too. A Fag is also a word for cigarette and both descriptions have common roots in that a ****** is actually a bushel of dried herbs or dried vegetable matter that is used for lighting fires. because Homosexual men were once burned at the stake by the Holy Inquisiton, and ******s were used to light the fires, ******s became another word for homosexuals and well its quite obvious why Cigarettes are known as F@gs. (lol even F@gs gets censored)

Anyway the main reason for gay marriage is legal rights, Ive known 5 boys I went to school with who had Lesbian mothers, 4 out of 5 of them are Heroin Addicted and are in and out of jail all the time for this, that and what not.

As for Gay couples adopting or having children, well much of their behaviour is based on Narcissism and attention seeking and so many many gaybo's will have children for the wrong reasons, not all, but many just want to fake the funk on front street, to get spots on talkback TV proclaiming how modern and out of the box they are, all the while making the kids suffer for their attention seeking behaviours, not much unlike many hetero couples.

adolf said...

Italy WTF. Who cares about homos living in Italy?

I specified it because I don't know if here it's the same, read it all, man

I'm in favour of gay marriages...
As long as both chicks are hot!

Oh, is this one of those WA, QLD things. Y'know like day light saving.

barn said...

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barn said...

adolf said...


My question is... what are the actual benefits?

The people who are most against gays are actually striking out in an attempt to repress their own desires..

barn you honestly don't believe that

You deleted the quote that summarised my opinion. Think of the Muslim men who want to ban women from wearing revealing cloths, they hate the cloths because it gives them ideas. Basically it's the same with you guys wanting to ban gays, I figure..

I know this topic is just about them getting married, but really, it's about them being gay and not hiding it. People don't want Gays to marry each other because people don't like Gays..

I see lots of ugly heterosexual couples, what they do in the privacy of their own homes is none of my business and I don't want to think about it because it's totally gross.. Do I wan't to ban ugly people from wedding each other? Not quite..

Don't like gays? two reasons I can think of..

No.1 They offend your God and you think you'll get kicked out of Heaven unless you actively hate on them..

No.2 You posses homoerotic desires and are afraid that if too many gays start prancing around being gay you won't be able to control yourself.

Thats such a popularist Cliche, I bet you frequent Cafes

Mark _australia said...

Anyway. My marriage started off gay and now it isn't.

So you can have both. In fact it seems to be the norm

ROFL Mark !!!

If it is legal for gays to get married, is it still legal for a priest to refuse to marry them on the basis of their being gay without being liable under antidiscrimination laws?

If it isn't, then the rights and beliefs of one group of society seem to be being advanced at the expense of another..

Of course, gays could still be married by a civil servent, etc.. But then I always associated "marriage" with religion (and losing half your assets)..

Either way it would seem the institution of marriage loses some of its (religious) value, which is maybe what straight marrying folk fear the most..

Since i'm neither religious or gay, i have zero vested interest and don't really care either way..

Mr. No-one said...

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I personally think openly gay people should not be in a position to influence children (TV, radio, teachers, parents,...)

but i suppose sport and music celebs who are wife-bashing, drug-addicted, promiscuous, alcoholic, racist, narcissistic, & adulterous are okay?

I saw a gay marriage the other day.

Somebody put a North sail on a Fanatic board.

Skid said...

I'm in favour of gay marriages...
As long as both chicks are hot!

I don't think you thought that comment through.