petermac33 said...
bombs going off prior to collapse of towers including in the basement.

Apologies if this has come up before, but what was the purpose of blowing up the towers AND crashing a plane into them? Wouldn't plane damage be enough? Would the government be worried that thousands of deaths on their own wouldn't be enough, so they had to demolish the buildings as well?

HEY! I can say butterflies on here now!!

evlPanda said...


Ignorant? Dude, you can't even tell us what chemical it is.

the chemicals have been listed in the first video post

evlPanda said...


Really man, you look for patterns where there are none. Anywhere. Everything is random noise. Absolutely everything.

seriously...? and you call me hippie

poor relative said...

cke was a well-known BBC television sports presenter and spokesman for the Green Party when, in 1990, he had an encounter with a psychic who told him he was a healer who had been placed on Earth for a purpose.[4] In April 1991, he announced on the BBC's Terry Wogan show that he was the son of God and predicted that the world would soon be devastated by tidal waves and earthquakes.[5] The show changed his life, turning him practically overnight from a respected household name into an object of ridicule.
At the heart of his theories lies the idea that a secret group of reptilian humanoids called the Babylonian Brotherhood controls humanity, and that many prominent figures are reptilian

Lemme recap (tee hee) what I said elsewhere:



Maybe not so delusional after all!

WTF thats not a chemtrail thats your PCs performance and you are not doing anything

poor relative said...


This guy has absolutely no credibility whatsoever.
How anyone can believe even half of what he says.

so what is credible....?

a bunch of people all on the same pay roll, dancing along to the paymasters tune...?

or someone who stands on his own and says here's something different, why not look at it from this way

thing is you can't prove him wrong, you can only poke fun without even listening to what he has to say first.

see yourself anywhere on this vid rellie...?

according to this video on C.S.I, you are unpatriotic if you believe in chemtrails!

FlySurfer said...... turns out he said on TV in the 80's he was the Son of God, a new prophet... but his career took off after that with speaking engagements... and I came here :)

I know you conspiracy theorists aren't particularly rigorous in your research but that was higher up on this page! And it was 1991

theDoctor said...

poor relative said...


This guy has absolutely no credibility whatsoever.
How anyone can believe even half of what he says.

thing is you can't prove him wrong, you can only poke fun without even listening to what he has to say first.

see yourself anywhere on this vid rellie...?

um... hello...... we are still waiting for you to prove these chemtrails with something other than youtube.

japie said...


Come on Ginger Pom - try sitting down and opening your mind and think over the arguments. Just try and break free of the shackles! Let a chink of light in for crying out loud

There are plenty of shackles to break free of. Chemtrails and 911 probably aren't included in them. In fact, they're a distraction to some of the better people (and a lot of the idiots)

Human beings are irrational enough. Read these books...

Irrationality by Stuart Sutherland
Black swan by Nicolas Nassim Taleb
Tricks of the mind by Derren Brown

and if you're really into conspiracies look up "Dehomag"

I do not need to read a book to tell me about the irrationality of many human minds. The evidence is our muted acceptance of the system imposed on us by a very small section of society.

In a world where there is a proven excess of food and medication, why do we allow kids to starve to death? Why is there so much corruption and why are people trying to continually **** one another over? Why do we use scarcity for an excuse to start wars when there is more than enough for everyone?

Profit. This whole society has been manipulated into slavery and we want it! All for the benefit of that section of the human race that holds sway. They use their media, their government, their education system and their money to flood us with bull**** at the same time as keeping us focused on this inane treadmill.

They hold on to outdated resources and maintain "scarsity" to keep profits up even when we are bombarded with technological advances that make the possibility of free energy a reality for the whole world. And we do it at the expense and the environment, knowingly with no real plan.

And we have become so dumbed down that we cannot see the wood for the trees.

All we need is there! They get our children to give their lives to their cause, profit. They don't care about us and they have got us right where they want us.

You don't think there is a conspiracy? I think it has got beyond that and it is rotten from the top to the bottom.

When I was a kid our mum did not have to work and did not when we were small. Most families now are based on two incomes and the delinquency and ignorance is directly proportional. How can that be good for us?

Look at this insane degradation of the environment. Only a tosser would argue the degree we are ****ing it up. And for what? Profit. I just hope that it does not take much longer for the whole world to see the light because that will be the start of the new age where creativity will be limitless.

Oh and read Bill Creeches book, the Five Pillars of TQM. Might sort some of your management problems out though I doubt it. He was a big proponent of leadership, team work and involvement. One time Colonel in command of the US air force acrobatic team. Good read!

petermac33 said...

i watched the first 50 minutes of this David Icke video last night.......very informative.....and right on the money.

what he is trying to get across is we live in a MATRIX

that is our REALITY of how we perceive things to be is.......controlled largely by the Military Industrial Complex.....of which the mainstream media is a part of.

look at the suppression of information on chemtrails, 1200 Architects + Engineers for 911 Truth, the use of depleted uranium in Iraq + Afghanistan.[Gulf War Syndrome]

the mainstream media[by and large] will not touch on these issues. this information is being SUPPRESSED by the mainstream media.

this filtering of news is what David Icke is trying to get the people to wake up to in this video.

That's one of the possible realities. Another is that David Icke is selling baseless nonsense that he plucks out of his own diseased brain to sell to gullible people in order to make a PROFIT.

All you guys should seriously consider reality number 2... it could set you free!

.. except that in science, a possibility is a HYPOTHESIS which, when developed and fully fleshed out becomes a THEORY. When the theory is accepted as fact then it becomes a LAW.

So going from a theory to an hypothesis is actually going back a step.

But what evidence are you looking at? Hard evidence that you can touch/feel or you tube evidence?

We can babble on about this stuff for ages and the thread will get as big as the funny images one. Funny really

petermac33 said...

i prefer to look at the evidence MYSELF and then decide what is fact.

ever heard the saying BLACK is WHITE and WHITE is BLACK?

You can DECIDE anything can be what you want it to be in petermacworld. But I think at least SOME of us are talking about reality. Y'know... what happens out in the fresh air and sunshine of good old mother Earth? And I can't help but think that you ain't one of that number.

Mini nukes... thanks petermac, I haven't laughed so much for ages. You can red flag this one now too if you like!