brody1 said..

Laurie runs this site like his a king and answers to no one

Well - Laurie created Seabreeze, and owns Seabreeze, so as far as I am concerned - that makes him the Boss!


Rupert and SN, they cant go one post without trying to elevate themselves via mentioning they were in the military,

When did I say I was in the military?


stephen

Just a thought...
Have you ever considered the fact that this guy, who spends pretty much everyday at the beach im assuming, surfs too? And probably has done for years. As much as not having any "choice" sucks, I can first hand say these guys are just doing their job. After numerous body recoveries and attempted CPR's, and on people the last thing they need or want is for people to act like jerks when they're just doing their job.
You've got a job I'm assuming? You're a tax payer just like them? Suck it up. Sounds like they gave you decent warning to get out the water and you didn't.
Do you save over 60 people a day from drowning all day everyday in summer? (Check the paper) Have you performed CPR on a guy that's clearly dead but you have to keep going because it's your job?

There were sharks at mettams for the last 2 months, which has resulted in ongoing media coverage. Imagine if a shark siting (usually at the actual trig beach itself for it to be closed) and not down further, in which they did not do their job and you got bitten. Imagine the media. The guy would probably get his ass teamed, you'd probably try and sue, and all because you wanted to have your "choice". Who cares if you get bitten? I dont, do whatever you want. But don't try and point the blame on the people who try and look out for your welfare mate.
And to the person who says "they signed up for this". Yeah they did, but they still don't ask to be abused by people who are doing the wrong thing.
Pay the fine mate. You were clearly in the wrong. If you've got enough time to try and fight it, I'd say go and do some volunteer work on the holidays and weekends at the beach. Then maybe you'll start listening to what they say.

Here's our shark alarm

No I'm not :) I frequent the site but honestly this is the first post that has provoked me to respond. I don't have to know or be a beach inspector to realise the same thing that volunteers and lifeguards go through probably happens to beach inspectors.
It's a simple matter of respecting the job they do at the beach, paid or unpaid. They're trying to help. Not everyone in a position of authority is trying take advantage of people. If you respect people regardless of who they are, generally you get a good response back :)

I reckon that if your board is under 6'6" you should have to wear a life jacket.

A high vis one.

Taytay said...
No I'm not :) I frequent the site but honestly this is the first post that has provoked me to respond. I don't have to know or be a beach inspector to realise the same thing that volunteers and lifeguards go through probably happens to beach inspectors.
It's a simple matter of respecting the job they do at the beach, paid or unpaid. They're trying to help. Not everyone in a position of authority is trying take advantage of people. If you respect people regardless of who they are, generally you get a good response back :)

I can appreciate that the authoritarian figure had his safety in mind when tried to call him out of the surf, but for him to be issuing a fine for this is ludicrous, on so many levels.

It sounds to me like the council have invented a regulation to allow this. It wouldn't surprise me if this or another similar case got taken to court and the council was found to have overstepped their jurisdiction. Since when do they have 200m of ocean in their boundary?

This whole business of issuing fines for not obeying vocal orders should remain in the powers of police, no one else.

jbshack said...

Lambie said..
So - just asking ? - if I was out surfing with a proven shark deterrent system on my board would I be exempt from the loud hailer ?? and subsequent LC fine?
What was the fine for again ? - disobeying a loud hailer ?? I read this thread and all I could think of was the Monty Python skit about 'bring out the dead - like - I'm out surfing and not dead yet - Oh shut up or Ill fine ya!!!

I find this thread hilarious that its all about someone whinging he was warned about a shark in the water

It's the fact he got fined for it that's got everyone in opposition warmed up. I don't think anyone thinks it was a bad thing he got warned of a shark.

Subsonic said..

jbshack said...

Lambie said..
So - just asking ? - if I was out surfing with a proven shark deterrent system on my board would I be exempt from the loud hailer ?? and subsequent LC fine?
What was the fine for again ? - disobeying a loud hailer ?? I read this thread and all I could think of was the Monty Python skit about 'bring out the dead - like - I'm out surfing and not dead yet - Oh shut up or Ill fine ya!!!

I find this thread hilarious that its all about someone whinging he was warned about a shark in the water

It's the fact he got fined for it that's got everyone in opposition warmed up. I don't think anyone thinks it was a bad thing he got warned of a shark.

So can you imagine the way he must have talked and treated to the inspector to get the ticket

Get pulled over by a cop and give them a mouth full, see how well that goes for ya

So what was the fine actually for?
What did the fine say?

Yep take it to court.

Spend 2 days at court and lose 2 days pay if working (~$300).

The ranger/beach inspector will not remember from the other people that he has fined over the past 3 months, but will say that it was you anyway. He had forgotten about 5 minutes after issuing the fine, and moved onto the next issue. He will not remember the other numpties in the water, nor where the shark was at the time.

The magistrate will not be interested, so will find in the government's favour.

So you will then pay an increased fine (~$1k) and court and witness cost (another $1k?).

So instead of $250, you will be a couple of k out of pocket. You could then refuse to pay that, and on it goes.

But heck give it a try - it is only money. Go for it. Looking forward to the next installment

Bigwavedave said..
Pretty sure you lent your car to a mate that day!!

then he'd be told to fill a stat dec saying who drove the car and their address…..like any traffic/council infringement.

and i don't think D.Duck from Disneyland would cut it.

Cobra said...
i piss myself laughing when people advise others to fight it in court.

"A man who is his own lawyer has a fool for a client". Especially if you seek advice from the Internet.

I too believe this thread is laughable. IT IS NOT THE JOB OF A LOCAL COUNCIL TO TELL PEOPLE WHEN THEY CAN OR CAN'T SURF. End of story.

kiterboy said...

DARTH said...

kiterboy said..

DARTH said...
About two years ago maybe longer we were surfing down at Secret Harbour wasn't the best a bit side shore and lumpy but waves were ok.

Mate swore he saw a fin I didn't, 10mins later the SLS in the rib came up to us to warn us of a sighting and we should think about going in.

Heaps of people didn't, we did.

I'm not willing to risk getting injured or killed. No bravado here.

At the end of the day it's your choice if you want to get fined or not, no matter what the law is.

Ah, so you're saying that we can choose to be fined or not, regardless of the law?

Far out you have the comprehension of a 2yo haha

No, thats not what I'm saying fool. It's your choice to stay out or come in. Stay out, get fined. Come in, you don't.

See how that works you idiot

Hate to break it to ya, but that is EXACTLY what you said.

Your emoticon only responses add more to the conversation than when you try to sound clever.

I am an English teacher and if you ask me you either fail for not being capable of inferential and contextual reading, or you fail for being a smart arse and deliberately misreading.

Take your pick.

thedrip said..

kiterboy said...

DARTH said...

kiterboy said..

DARTH said...
About two years ago maybe longer we were surfing down at Secret Harbour wasn't the best a bit side shore and lumpy but waves were ok.

Mate swore he saw a fin I didn't, 10mins later the SLS in the rib came up to us to warn us of a sighting and we should think about going in.

Heaps of people didn't, we did.

I'm not willing to risk getting injured or killed. No bravado here.

At the end of the day it's your choice if you want to get fined or not, no matter what the law is.

Ah, so you're saying that we can choose to be fined or not, regardless of the law?

Far out you have the comprehension of a 2yo haha

No, thats not what I'm saying fool. It's your choice to stay out or come in. Stay out, get fined. Come in, you don't.

See how that works you idiot

Hate to break it to ya, but that is EXACTLY what you said.

Your emoticon only responses add more to the conversation than when you try to sound clever.

I am an English teacher and if you ask me you either fail for not being capable of inferential and contextual reading, or you fail for being a smart arse and deliberately misreading.

Take your pick.

You missed the part where noone asked you, Mr English teacher.

You can't fail for both possible outcomes of an assessment, one has to be right.
I either fail the comprehension and pass on the deliberate misreading, or I pass on the comprehension and fail on the deliberate misreading.

Fail for you, Mr Teacher.