jbshack said...



I do and i have..

For what its worth I believe that the Ocean is out of balance. Im not sure on the answer but i think it best left alone as much as possible. Honestly the threat of being killed by a Shark is still so low its just plain ridiculous to even argue it. IMHO

I love the ocean. If i was a hiker and my wilderness areas were being destroyed I'd be just upset. Honestly i'm surprised that people don't seem to care about her. I'd prefer to walk away from the water for the right reasons than destroy it for my own selfish gain

Oh and wanting to spend millions and millions of dollars on making people feel safer were that money could be channelled to fight child hood cancer, or feeding the third world children is selfish in my eyes.

doggie said...



I think 2 & 3. Catch two, tag one and "thin out" the other one.

One idea that I thought was good, drag dead whales out to sea and let them feast on them and tag away as they do it. Then put more of those sounder things the yellow bouys along the coast and track the hell out of them. Then make a website that gives you live readings.

Big ask I know.

SP said...



Twice, did you? Did you read the other stuff I posted or even my replies.. Id guess No as usual... You just post and dont care about others thoughts, its all you, the data in Subas, report is in many cases bastardised version of the data that is freely available on the DPI site, but you didnt look at any of that.... You didn't even look at it and draw your own conclusions, you merely repeated what a marine professor has written, it doesn't mean he is right, are you saying the DPI all their scientist etc are wrong with there research? Don't worry You just keep posting... You won't a solution but you don't want anything that goes with it... Or even hear the other side of the debate, anyway there was a reason I stayed out of this and I intend to do it again as of now. You don't reach solutions by talking over others JB..

Zuke said...



An each way bet doggie!

Actually, I have been thinking about your idea for a while too. The second one about dragging dead whales out to sea and tagging the hell out of them. Also installing a lot more of the tracking beacons but most importantly letting me (and everyone else) have real time access to the data!

Why is it a secret?

kwalkington said...

think u've been voted out jb

Hamsta said...



Crocs. There is also evidence that Crocs have taken people, some who were tourists and others who were intoxicated and those who were right place/wrong time. Crocs lifecycle is different to sharks (shorter) and they have eggs with a relatively high rate of survival.

Dingos. I think that the rouge Dingos could be captured and released away from areas popular with tourists etc. Educating people who may come into contact with Dingos may/may not work as some people would still like to feed them etc.

Bears. Apart from the 'piddling and stinking' variety that gets high on leaves, we don't have Bears here (although Wombats look a bit like a Bear that never learnt to walk and they can be aggressive little fu%&ers) In Canada and the US, Bears that become overly agressive are either moved or shot, which is a shame as it is typically the pressure put on their habitat by humans that causes interactions and sometimes aggression. I'm no Bear expert but I do know quite a few Canadian folk who are outdoorsy types and are pretty astute regarding Bears. (yeah, I know, weak anectdotal evidence)

Lions. MMMMmmmmm. Again, I suspect that it is the pressure being put on their habitat that causes the interactions that lead to fatalities.

Hippos. Fark me these things can be sociopathic and I am so glad they don't live in the oceans. Again, the pressure put on their habitat by 'progress' is why I suspect Hippos come into contact with humans. Either that or they are just evil mutherf(^*rs who suffer constantly from the pain of projectile diarrhea.

The one common link between Man v's Wild is that Man has usually f*(cked something up somewhere that has lead to an imbalance which has further compounded the problem of interaction in non controllled environment ie. Man outside cage and animal inside cage.

Only my opinion and I am not offering empirical support for what I am typing. I'm not a vegetarian, nor a vegan, I simply hold animals in pretty high regard, like most people. EDIT I figure my dietry habits come at the expense of animals (bacon especially) so perhaps I am 'compensating' for that with my views regarding sharks.

jbshack said...



There seems to be three schools of thought. Or argument in this case. The first is just people who want to flame anyone who is different to them, to argue for there side by just attacking people. That's called Bullying.

The second is the group who want proof of the numbers. Even though the pro's are saying there numbers are at decline. Even you Woodo are saying you want evidence of how many there are? Well you wont get a actual exact count but the experts are saying at best (all be it with a estimated/calculated guess) that they are at critical levels.

Then there is the third group like me who say well i'm prepared to air on the side of what the experts are saying and i can see that although it would be horrible to get attacked or eaten i think the risk is still worth it for me to surf. I don't want to change the ocean onto something its not. I'm keen to live in harmony with it and ill take the risk. Its really not as high as the media has everyone thinking.

I started again in this thread as i was keen to see what people thought of the WA government commissioned report that was realised today. I even asked a question on how do you think we can cull and by that, were would you put nets, drums? and no one has even bothered to respond. Just the usual its crap, you're wrong, you think you own the forum. The stupid type of reply that makes me wonder why i tried to think anyone else has a answer. Beyond the word Cull you'll need to start thinking a little harder.

If any of you actually did bother you would see there is a section asking for your response to the report. The government want to hear what you have to say, luckily they don't read these forums so if you want to knock out my replies than you'll need to do so on there website

Woodo said...




Only just about?
Same.
Anyway I'm off to cook some fresh Baldy I caught on the weekend.
(That's baldchin groper for those that were thinking something else)

SP said...



He can have an opinion, it's good he does, its good he has an opinion that he sees clearly and thinks is valid..... And willing to argue.

However, it is pretty stupid to dismiss the entire east coast programme and the science that has gone into over many years and say it is incorrect or doesn't work, the evidence viewed by a statistical or quantitative method has been effective in lowering shark number and the number of occurrences with humans, to say other wise is wrong.

From an environmental point of view it has not been good but every decision has pros and cons... It's up for governments and scientist to weigh these up and come up with an acceptable soloution. That's how democracy and society works.

Suba, would you have any idea how many are taken in countries where they're not protected?

subasurf said...

Gotta love how the politicians are already using this as a way to slam each other.
Guess the opposition government thinks they can make science happen faster.