Yes you are a busy-body-bully who thinks they are the beach police. You surf such isoltaed areas with average surf, I don't even know why u r commenting, you wouldnt see any surf rage or bullying. You can only assume what is going on on the Gold Coast. If you think the pro's are being supported here you are wrong. Occy's latest remarks made him more enemies than friends. You are both living in fairy land, sorry locals fairy land.
I can tell you that in the 70's I surfed North Naerrabeen and Dee Why point regularly and I wasn't a local. I got to surf there unhindered because I bullied the local bullies into submission. That is how it worked. It is not much different now expect the bullies hide behind surf clubs with a look of propriety. Occy eroded the surf industries credibility in the last few weeks, hopefully irrepairabley.
I can tell you that as far as the locals here are concerned, bodyboarders are invisible and so are young kids 14 and under if they feel like it.
First day I paddled out the back at D'Bah, I hadn't said one word, hadn't even paddled for a wave and was told to F##K off over there with the beginners. this was said 3 times in a week for no reason. These idiots started a war that I may not win, but they won't either if I can help it. I have plenty of support even though I have a less than tactless approach at times. You and Appsy are obviously part of the deluded, non-thinking, frightened majority. That's why you disagree with me. You enjoy yourselves.
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appsy said...So if I go for a surf now and see two guys fighting or worse one guy getting the s..t beat out of him (local or non local) and i step in to assist (break it up).....I'm a bully. I call it intervention or perhaps preventing someone from serious injury.I think anyone in today's community would appreciate a act of kindness if they were attacked (by a bully local).
Very similar to walking down the street and seeing someone seriously assaulted and standing their doing nothing.
I'm pretty educated and I believe in the state of NSW you don't need a victim of "surf rage" to put someone before the court. In the state of NSW the correct charge is called "affray". If the laws becoming a joke... speak to your local member of parliament and get legislation changed.
As for board rider clubs....their awesome. They do not promote violence, in fact the club I'm involved in promotes community awareness and is a positive environment for young children and families to be involved in.
I'm a member (sometimes) of the Sydney paddle board club and have yet to see casso, goatman, dc or any other member act in a violent way towards surfers or any member of the public.
My short board club has a very strict policy any one gets in trouble with the cops... your no longer allowed in the club.
Have a good day localiser maybe come down to the sth coast of nsw one day and ill show you how nice us "bullys, board rider member, stand up paddle boarder" can be.
Hi Doggie....your a champ. WA rocks.
Localiser said...Boardflicker, friend of a boardflicker, if you think you are good enough to pull them apart, you still think you're bully enough to stop a fight. You still have bully tendencies. Pulling them apart might cause you more problems than it's worth, unless you are a bigger bully than the two of them put together. You appear to see your self as smoe sort of police.
You might be surprised who I know. You may not know me, but I know most of you.
I don't believe that surf rage is worse than normal, it fluctuates depending on the behaviour of those who call themselves locals.
Queensland Police can charge anyone with public nuisance if the want. The burden of proof is almost zero proof. The law is a joke. The problem would be finding independent witnesses, as most of you know each other in some way or other. And most visitors wouldn't support a local if their life depended on it.
If you locals want more respect and control, control the bullies in your ranks. It is the few bullies in your ranks that label you all bullies. If you think a surf break doesn't have bullies, just look at any good surf break e.g. North Narra, Dee Why Point, Bondi and Cronulla. What about the rock at Cabrita that says, "LOCALS ONLY." You may think it's funny, I just think whoever wrote it is a F***wit and the visitors are still intimidated by the silent form of bullying. Then we have the Bra boys at Maroubra and some f***king idiot made a movie about these idiots. They should be retrospectively charged and locked up, not celebrated. It is all a big joke. Except to the bullies who enjoy the benefits of creating a heirarchy.
No locals, no heirarchy.
Go and watch the movie the "Experiment", the democratic majority in this movie are the gutless cowards who can't think for themselves, so they follow the bigger bully and p**s on his head. The democratic majority is what creates a system that we all complain about, but we say we have to accept the system. The only reason you accept the system is because the majority are too weak. The weak are satisfied with licking the bigger bully's backside to maintain their level in the pecking order.
"The Experiment" is based on an experiment conducted by Standford University's Pysychology Department, it is one of the most interesting studies, if not the most interesting to every psychologist with regard to human behaviour. Just like all human behaviour it happens in degrees and whether you like it or not, this is what is happening in the surf around the Gold Coast. While you are part of the bullies you think you are doing nothing wrong. But remember that when someone who has no fear and refuses to be bullied comes along, just like there is in the movie, the bubble just may burst if pushed in the right direction. Before you comment go and watch the DVD, otherwise you have no intelligent foundation to rebutt me. Human beings behave like animals and it is no different in the surf.
It is sad to say that while you have 2 sides, locals & non-locals there will always be conflict. We are all the same, unless being a local provides you with special treatment, why would you want or need to be a local?
Paul Burt said on the news, "Remember! Respect the locals."
I say, "Respect your fellow human."
Maybe changing entrenched local habits might help.
appsy said...Read my comment again before you start dropping my name on this forum.
My comment re surf rage was "if you see em pull em apart". Not once have i promoted aggreesive local behaviour.
"Appsy and his so called local buddies" you don't f...ing know me or who my "local buddies" are.
I can't believe how much crap you have gone on with about Police targeting surf rage.
Localiser said...This just goes to show that Appsy and his so-called local buddies want to decide what justice they will dish out on their chosen break. The only group of surfers you get at a break that might be big enough to mete out justice are the so-called locals. So if the surfers resolve their problems, the local bullies will be doing it as always. You so-called locals are the problem. "Please" tends to work better than "F@#K OFF!", but you so-called locals with the bunch-of-grapes mentality want an instant fix. You locals hog the waves, continually snake, bend the rules and then complain at the slightest indiscretion.
You think your remarks here are funny. What is easily seen in your remarks is that there is a bully mentality behind them. You may not be able to see this, but it is glaringly obvious to others.
The solution is to remove the locals from the water, or restrict the locals who live within 25 kilometres of the beach, to 4 so-called locals at a time.
I can handle 4
Dazza65 said...
What about the good old days when if someone dropped in you just flicked your board at them!!! That all stopped however once lawyers and assault charges got thrown into the fray. In reality it was a bloody stupid and dangerous thing to do. I recall having a board flicked at me once and seeing it whistle past my ear. A big older local saw it, went over to the board flicker who was a young kid and throttled him, nothing severe just scared the crap out of him. The kid was in tears and I bet he never flicked a board again.
I therefore tend to Agree with Appsy on this one, its something surfers need to take control of as a group. This raises another problem, how many time have you heard of the third person in coming out worse off.............