Sounds like a job for 'Localiser'.

chrispychru said...

Scotty88 said...

Sounds like a job for 'Localiser'.

quick,point the special light towards the sky and he will once again,be our saviour

he prefers jungle drums

lacey, you have been known to give "directions" in the surf .....but you are the expert

husq2100 said...

lacey, you have been known to give "directions" in the surf .....but you are the expert

'encouragement' is a better word don't you think.

mate i'm way down that pecking order these days.

**** i used to sup surf that place nearly twice a day for a year and a half

62mac said...

I maintain the Alley is sup heaven

Seriously is it the personand not the craft

its the person Mac not the craft

For those that were there, who had the right of way? Was the guy paddling out able to avoid hitting the guy surfing the wave?

i gave you red for being spoilt and for being sarcastic about it.

Hey husq
I am sure you just brought a naish! Was it you????? Cause if it was you where ripping............ Until someone got in your way! BTW even though your actions were justified, have you considered anger management classes! You angry angry man!

Hmmm wonder if this is the same Naish SUPer I saw out he Alley a couple of weeks back snaking and kick turning inside other SUPers whilst paddling back out after catching a wave and calling off drop ins after dropping in himself. Not a great way to make friends. Thing is you get these type of guys at all breaks and on all types of watercraft....my feeling is karma will sort them out.

Hey, at the end of the day if you surf overcrowded soft waves like the alley "sh#t" happens" always has and always will. If it gets to you then go to one of the many hundreds of beachbreaks not too far away and avoid all the dramas - surfing a few beachies might actually make some of you much better sup surfers.

billboard said...

Hey, at the end of the day if you surf overcrowded soft waves like the alley "sh#t" happens" always has and always will. If it gets to you then go to one of the many hundreds of beachbreaks not too far away and avoid all the dramas - surfing a few beachies might actually make some of you much better sup surfers.

I believe this day (sun) was 4 foot (remeber those waves on sat that the race crew delt with) now where are the new supr's going to go if a beach break is over 2 foot?

why should it be a case of letting those doing the worng thing keep doing it and forcing others out.....sounds like what has been doing this country in for the last 30 years....keep making rules around those doing the wrong which has a greater inpact on those doing the right thing

come back in 6 months after surfing your beachies and see if you surf better then "mr ver bad sup man"

lets clear up the facts AGAIN, "mr very bad sup man" was on the wave surfing AND called out to "poor innocent sup paddler" to stay where he was ( not to be a hero as you think but to communicate and stop a colision) "poor innocent sup paddler" kept paddling, "Mr very bad sup man" called out again, louder....he definitley had "poor innocent sup paddler's attention BUT he kept paddling FOR THE SHOULDER....and then paddled into the side of the "mr very bad sup man"

I have had to "oui" loudly at sup kooks that drop in after looking at you inside them on the wave....and this after they have done it more than once in a session...I was recently hit by a sup board becasue a kook started to paddle down the line for a wave I was on and I "oui'd" him, he stopped paddling and did nothing but watch, in which time, he became side on to the wave and as I went past on the low side, he got knocked off his board, him going over the back of the wave and his board projecting into me.....more bad behavior, having them paddle inside of people, not being able to turn their boards around etc is causing danger for everyone....

The best i saw was the guy on the 11-12 foot laird sitting out wide down the line, a surf boat was coming in,a fair way inside of him, and caught a wave.....at some point they started to or decided to turn off the wave drawing out in a big long arc. They called out to this guy that was the only one in their way (but a fair way off at this stage) he just stood there and looked at them, the boat kept coming for him, the stoke kept yelling, the guy kept standing....I started laughing about 10m before it was going to happen, and yep the sufboat ran clean over his sup and he bailed just in time.....HE HAD PLENTY OF TIME TO AVOID THIS, BUT DIDNT!

so Bill, how about I hire a bus and collect all these new learners and bring them to your secret spot at kingscliffe. There they will be come better surfers in no time, not have the aggression of bad sup people that must be in the wrong becasue they are better than them, and you will enjoy all your new buddies

poseidon said...

I agree that if you can't negotiate a beach break at 4ft on a sup then you shouldn't be at the points, but when you are on a wave flying down the line, no matter what is in front of you, you have a responsibility not to run over anyone, i mean straighten out or pull off if you need to, and then just have a quiet word to the person in the way. So huss, if you get run over , who's at fault, you or the person on the wave. I find it hard to believe you would be saying "sorry mate" if someone run into you while paddling out.

why does it keep falling back to the guy on the wave! the paddler had the same oppertunity and time to do more than one thing to avoid this incident AND WAS IN THE WRONG....but was clearly to set on paddling over the wave and nothing else. Stop blaming the other guy because he is better and "should have turned" what if he straightend up and at the same time the paddle decides at the last minute to try and go inside or etc etc etc...

so if I drive down the wrong side of the road and crash into you, you will be to blame because YOU didnt move and got angry with me......yeah RIGHT!

The so called aggression is not coming from a one off incident, but rather many incidents on regular occasions.

Why should SUP'rs be treated any different to SB and LB and get a free card....hell they wouldnt even be out there on a normal board.

There is a big surfboard shaped sign at the Alley with the basic rules cleary on them in picture form, maybe some need to go study this and practice before they put on their little booties and hats and paddle straight out through the surf zone into the middle of the line up

The paddler always has the responsibility, I think Husq is referring to this bit of surf ettiequtte, taken from
www.surfline.com/surfology/bill-of-lefts-and-rights/index.cfm?id=51320

When paddling out to or within a break, it's your responsibility to stay out of the way of riders on waves. This has its roots in the same thinking behind "don't drop in" - once a rider has selected and caught a wave, all other surfers should do their best not to interfere with his or her enjoyment of the wave. It's also extremely practical.



Let's face it: Few moves make less sense than paddling close to, or directly into, the breaking line of waves on the way to the takeoff zone. For one thing, natural waterflow through the lineup will make the trip a lot easier if you paddle clear and in open water. For another, not all surfers in the water will have the skills or inclination to avoid your prone board and body floating up into their paths. Therefore, always paddle out wide of the break, making sure you're not interfering with your fellow surfers' waves.
If you find yourself caught inside the whitewater line, don't cut across riders' tracks in a frantic attempt to reach the shoulder; maintain your position, pushing through the whitewater until the set passes, then go wide again into open water as quickly as possible. Paddling into the path of a surfer in the tube in order to save yourself a duckdive is extremely bad etiquette.

I didn't say the paddler has no obligation, but sometimes you can get caught in no mans land where the wave and surfer are bearing down on you and there is no easy clear option, and to then get run over and cop abuse is over the top. Which is the main issue I started with this thread, people carrying on like pork chops out in the surf regardless of who is to blame (most often both parties)

poseidon said...

I didn't say the paddler has no obligation, but sometimes you can get caught in no mans land where the wave and surfer are bearing down on you and there is no easy clear option, and to then get run over and cop abuse is over the top. Which is the main issue I started with this thread, people carrying on like pork chops out in the surf regardless of who is to blame (most often both parties)

Yep, but if you'd waited for 30 mins for a wave while people paddle way out the back, up your inside and dropping in and you get a good one and someone blows it for you by scrambling in they way when they could have turned right and took the wash and I understand how frustration can affect your judgement. Not that this is the case in this situation but I can understand how people get upset.