2014 Fanatic Falcons have arrived.

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Zeusman
Zeusman
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15 Sep 2013 9:37am
Leroy13 said...
5.30am Zeussmann??????. In the immortal words of Shakespeare. "Get thee to a training Session!" (Taking my son to one that's my excuse!!) You Qlders take it serious!!! Best time of the day however. Have Fun. I'll drop him and then go for a paddle on my 12'6" Naish MC Jav Carbon/Kevlar. See if I can get within 20 minutes of you guys times. You blokes ( and gals) really do have an incredible set up which is paying dividends. Congratulations and
Cheers Leroy


0530am start at work unfortunately. Coffee & the Breeze helps me wake up!
Kieranr
Kieranr
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526 posts
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15 Sep 2013 1:51pm
@Viatormundi:
Falcon Vs Allstar is a tough one. I really like both.
My falcon is a 14 x 27.25" and my Allstar is 14 x 25" so it's not a fair comparison.
The Allstar is faster flat water as you would expect of a narrower board but the falcon is more stable on the rougher stuff as you would expect of a wider board.
I have paddled the 14 x 24.75" falcon so I'll try to compare that to the 14 x 25" Allstar.

Allstar:

1). Nice and light.
2). Pretty durable for a lightweight carbon board.
3). Accelerates well off the line.
4). Easy to keep at speed, good glide.
5). Very stable for its width(sunken deck helps. I came from a 12'6" x 28" Naish Javelin GX and the Allstar is more stable)
6). Easy to turn, one step back and a cross bow works best I think.
7). Pretty good to catch bumps.(does require fast footwork and good balance to keep the nose up)
8). Surfs well, great fun catching big fat waves and then just hanging out on the tail.
9). Lacks volume in the nose I feel.
10). Standing position is pretty far forward so that didn't quite suit me as it required a lot of movement back and forth once on runners and waves
11). Tends to get dragged about and swamped in very messy chop and swell.

Falcon:
1). Fantastic handle for carrying.
2). Addition of soft handles up front very handy.
3). Construction quality seems very good with high attention to detail.
4). Great glide once up to speed.
5). Picks up little bumps very, very well. This it's real shining quality I feel.
6). At least as stable as the Allstar if not a little bit more as it seems to ride over chop and wash rather than go through it. I was very pleasantly surprised by how stable the 14 x 24.75" was and almost changed my order for one!! I highly recommend people try both 24.75" and the 27.25".
7). Seems very similiar flat water speed wise. It feels a bit strange at first the way the water peels off the bow, doesn't feel fast but it is.
8). Easy to turn with the new further forward fin position. This becomes especially evident when on a wave and you can turn by leaning with your hips.
9). Surfs very, very well. More stable on waves when you are on the tail.
10). Stability really comes into play when up and moving, can feel a bit rolly at low speed or when stationary.
11). Flat deck is easy to maneuver around on.
12). Further back standing position and high volume nose means less moving back required when on runners.

I really like both so I'm keeping my Allstar for flat water and the falcon is for DW.
Coque
Coque
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15 Sep 2013 5:06pm
Kieranr, are you talking about the 2013 or the 2014 AllStar???



Thanks!
Kieranr
Kieranr
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15 Sep 2013 7:13pm
2013 Allstar.
Dash
Dash
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15 Sep 2013 7:53pm
That's a good review, thanks
Coque
Coque
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51 posts
16 Sep 2013 3:11am
Kieranr said..

2013 Allstar.




Thanks!

I feel like the 2013 has enough volume on the nose and it's a great DW and surfing 12'6. The best i've ever tried for sure.

Can't wait for the 2014!
viatormundi
viatormundi
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92 posts
16 Sep 2013 4:19am
Thx Kieranr for the comparison.
surf4fun
surf4fun
WA
1313 posts
WA, 1313 posts
16 Sep 2013 9:12am
Coque said...
Kieranr said..

2013 Allstar.




Thanks!

I feel like the 2013 has enough volume on the nose and it's a great DW and surfing 12'6. The best i've ever tried for sure.

Can't wait for the 2014!


If you are talking about the 12'6x25 All Staf it is completely different to all the other All Stars in terms of volume distribution, a lot more in the nose and tail compared to all the other All Stars.

Sorry to hijack.
NNSUP
NNSUP
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16 Sep 2013 11:19am
Having now done another time trial on the new Falcon it does seem that the flat water speed is similar to the 2013 model. The difference as stated previously is in choppy conditions. From a racing perspective the ability to navigate through wash and the improved stability will positively impact flat water times.
Reef to reef this weekend. Last year I would have raced the 27.5 off shore but due to the improved stability I'll try the 24.75 this year. will be interested to see what it is like in a long off shore race in comparison.
Coque
Coque
51 posts
51 posts
16 Sep 2013 3:55pm
surf4fun said..

Coque said...
Kieranr said..

2013 Allstar.




Thanks!

I feel like the 2013 has enough volume on the nose and it's a great DW and surfing 12'6. The best i've ever tried for sure.

Can't wait for the 2014!


If you are talking about the 12'6x25 All Staf it is completely different to all the other All Stars in terms of volume distribution, a lot more in the nose and tail compared to all the other All Stars.

Sorry to hijack.




I was talking about the 27.5''...

Mollzy
Mollzy
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17 Sep 2013 10:22am
The range is now up online and a movie teaser aswell.

OMG i can't wait to go back to maui to downwind after watching that little teaser on fanatic site!!

www.fanatic-sup.com/content/products/sup/falcon_carbon/index_eng.html#.Ujbb3idatqs.facebook

XX angie

ooppss and that's why you should always log out of the shop computer Molly Walker hahahaha
weiry
weiry
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5396 posts
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17 Sep 2013 8:54pm



m

y new baby has arrived yeeeeew,
im only a kook so no review from me
took the board for a maiden paddle this arvo on the local estuary in a 20k wind i was very happy ,because i didnt fall
but i did make a mental note

in 20k wind never paddle 2km downwind away from the car, then paddle back
62mac
62mac
WA
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17 Sep 2013 6:56pm
hahaha I did that a couple of years ago,bloody hard work on a 10.6 surf 666
weiry
weiry
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17 Sep 2013 9:00pm
62mac said..

hahaha I did that a couple of years ago,bloody hard work on a 10.6 surf 666


bugger that mac i would of left it in the mangroves
Marcolan
Marcolan
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2 posts
27 Sep 2013 4:29am
NNSUP said...
[br]Great way to finish the day being the 1st punter in Oz to pick up a 2014 Fanatic Falcon. New paddles from Ke Nalu as well. Thanks WindsurfnSnow, Fanatic and Ke Nalu.




What is the thickness of 12??6" Falcon 2014? Nose, middle and tail.
viatormundi
viatormundi
92 posts
92 posts
28 Sep 2013 5:57am
Kieranr,
I need your help. You said that 2013 AllStar 14x25'' and 2014 Falcon 14X24.75'' are similar in stability right, maybe Falcon little bit more stable. Unfortunately we don't have any of those boards here to test. I wonder if 24.75'' or 27.25'' Falcon would be better for me. I weigh 81kg and have no problem to paddle on 2013 Allstar 14X25''.
Today I tested 2014 Allstar 14X25.5'' and it is less stable than 2013 14X25''. It has less rocker and sure faster in flat water but less open ocean version compared to last year.
Marcolan
Marcolan
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2 posts
28 Sep 2013 9:27pm
NNSUP said..
BrisKites said..



enuenu said..



Looks like a massive design change from my 2013 12'6" Falcon.

What combinations of length & width are they available in?

Is that bottom profile (rail to rail) a bit of a belly, flat or concave?

Do they have ledge style carry handles?

Are the Flys and All Waves also being changed a lot?




24.75" and 27.25" in 12'6" and 14' the 30" model shape remains unchanged from last year.

Flat up front convex at the tail

Ledge handle

Changes to the Allwave but Official release date still a couple of weeks away.


Also a big nose which is riding over waves ratter than digging in like the 2013 model.

Agree with Skebstebamal, Sam Parker and I think similar or just marginally faster flat water speed but there is a big difference in swell and downwind, I was very surprised how easily the 2014 model picked up small swell.

The board comes with 2 handle straps as well as the new carry handle.


What??s the thickness of the 12'6"? nose, middle and tail?
DavidJohn
DavidJohn
VIC
17570 posts
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29 Sep 2013 8:37am
Marcolan said..

What??s the thickness of the 12'6"? nose, middle and tail?


It's pretty thick in the tail.. even thicker in the middle.. and super-duper thick in the nose.

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/SUP/Stand-backshes-gunna-blow/

DJ
Kieranr
Kieranr
NSW
526 posts
NSW, 526 posts
29 Sep 2013 12:41pm
Viatormundi: based on what you have said I'm guessing you could handle the 24.75".
It's hard for me to reccomend a board when you can't trial it yourself. I definitely needed the 27.25" for ocean paddling.
What works for me may not suit you, that said though if you could handle the 2013 25" allstar in ocean conditions then you should be fine on the 24.75" fanatic.
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