Not yet,
I can only go by the photos sent me by Wollemi,
I'm waiting on his feedback
But she also has nose damage from hitting a dock or another boat,
I was prepared to repair this, being way above the water line it didnt bother me too much,
but the hull repair is another story,
Firstly I dont know if I can access the inside of it, and even so,
It is a major repair,
and could turn into a major hull rework,
Even If I were confident of a repair of this magnitude,
I cant get it done in short time frame I have

Charriot said...

Very sorry,just to read it is hard. If you need one day fresh air I can take you to Westernport. Mick

I saw your pic of malua........ Is that your boat,?
very very nice,
Maybe when I win tatts ( for sure I've got the right numbers this time, )
Or were they for powerball,?
Later mick, appreciate the offer !!!
Might take you up one day,

hmmm, ok, what do you think of this one then,
The photos I got from the broker for some reason didnt sow the amount of rust here
The block is my main mast stay, If the rust has gone in down there
could this mount be compromised?

1100 is a bargain, just not a bargain for you mate.Get your money back, if not put it down too exp.If you are worried about the money then you realy dont understand the costs of having a 18 foot yacht, let alone a 33footer. would be perfect for someone locally to her.

Heaps of cheap boats local to you.do your research on here before doing the ebay gamble.

i think i can see a $20k hole in that one. bummer.

cantswm4**** said...

yeh, brokers name is :
Jonathan Frearson
Regatta Sailing
2C Margaret St
Woolwich NSW 2110

Nah, not worried about the money,
I'll put it down to experience,
Too much hassle to get the cash back,

If that broker led you into believing you or anybody else could get that boat from Sydney to Melbourne by sea before Christmas, he should be horsewhipped.

Looks to me like the boat was a mooring minder and you have bought a liability that could cost you more than what it is worth to deal with.

Check your paperwork (contract, registration etc) and if the change of registration has not gone through yet cancel the transfer and flick the boat back on to the broker and make it his liability.

Letting the boat sink is NOT an option as dealing with the wreck could cost you PLENTY.

Seriously mate, I think the yacht is too far gone to be worth spending what it will cost to make it a thing again.

I recently sold a 36 ft mast and boom for $1,500 and winches are always saleable.

That engine is a 4 cylinder, probably 30-40 hp, and presumably has a gearbox attached and if not seized, tidied up could be worth $2,000 to $4,000 to somebody.

Accepting that you might have blown $1,100 is fairly easy and with a motor vehicle you can always get scrap value (you know all about that) but boats are a different thing (ie mooring fees, slipping fees, hardstand etc.).

I am not being negative because I am a positive realist but if that boat is now in your name irrevocably, you have some decisions to make, and soon, before it costs you more than what you have paid for it.

I wish you the best of luck with it, sincerely.

cantswm4**** said...

yeh, brokers name is :
Jonathan Frearson
Regatta Sailing
2C Margaret St
Woolwich NSW 2110

Nah, not worried about the money,
I'll put it down to experience,
Too much hassle to get the cash back,

I know Jonathon quite well. As a matter of fact I bought the yacht in my avatar from him.
I almost bought a Cole 35 off him off eBay earlier but was pipped at the post by some lucky bastard. I went to Sydney to view the boat first though and Jonathon was very honest about its condition, history and why he was selling it. I was offered the boat on the spot for $10,000 and should have taken it [cold molded Cole 35 with all the gear, needed a new deck and engine rebuild]. I had a reserve on it of $12,500 and was easily winning but in the last second was beaten. The winner was a shipwright I think and hauled it away up the coast on a truck. I was in contact with Jonathon for several days after the auction in case the buyer did not show. The yacht was called "Tactical Response". Plenty of Sydney Hobarts behind her. About $10,000 worth of lead in the keel, massive two speed winches, quality gear everywhere, superb mast and sails. I was going to take my fishing vessel to Sydney and tow her home.
Jonathon runs Regatta yachts brokerage out of Woolwich marina. Apart from the usual yachts listed he sells what is commonly called mooring minders. These boats are usually what yacht clubs etc commission Jonathon to sell on their behalf for reasons such as not paying mooring fees etc.
He is actually a really nice bloke.

Anyone reading this and owns Tactical response I hate your guts!

cantswm4**** said...

hmmm, ok, what do you think of this one then,
The photos I got from the broker for some reason didnt sow the amount of rust here
The block is my main mast stay, If the rust has gone in down there
could this mount be compromised?

I would be more concerned with silver rope over the roller/fairlead with out any parcelling to prevent abrasion.

Did Jonathon offer to deliver by sea for this vessel? He usually does for 30 miles or so at least.

what to do, what to do
half of you say its not bad fix it, the other half say its beyond repairs.
Now I'm the first to say I know nothing about cement boats,
so I have to base my next move on this information.

I never said the broker told me I could sail it as was,
I told him my only option was to sail it back, and asked him relevant questions about doing this, his answers led me to believe it was in a complete state and needed only minor work,
the broker seemed very intelligent and helpful to me,
Responding with answers to all my questions
I am more annoyed because the answers I was given don't match her condition
And there is allot of things missing that you would expect on a complete boat,
(maybe they got stolen)
My belief is that the engine got swamped when the stern and hull were damaged at some time,
leading me to the assumption the damage was major,
And the repair was obviously not done properly (probably just bogged over the old rio)
Thinking it's too late now, as the rust will have set in and done its job
Without resorting to remeshing the full length of her hull,
(just a laymans insight)

Sold by an experienced boat person I would expect mention of this once they knew I was opting to sail it
I have not done any paper work on her yet,
So I suppose she still belongs to someone else,

I looked into sinking her, I just need to apply for a permit, strip her of gear, and tow out to X marks the spot,
What else can you do with an unwanted cement hull,
I recon it would be a little hard to get her to the local tip
and She wont burn, ( could have made a good sausage sizzle )
CHEERS all,

I can work around the distance, If i can get cheap mooring.

the way I see it, I have 4 options
1. keep the boat, move to cheap moor, slowly repair, sail over next xmas
PROS, time to get experience,
can do a better job on repairing everything,
CONS, may be a waste of time and money If the stern/hull damage is beyond repair, which looks to be 50/50 at the moment.
would need dry dock to repair properly

2. I can give her away to the first person with their hand up
PROS, all headaches gone
CONS, none

3. strip her out and sink her,
PROS, may recover my money
CONS, will take up valuable time and more money

4. try to resell on EBAY
PROS, may get more than I payed
CONS, still have to pay mooring in the interim.
may not sell at all

cisco said...

It is a hard one cantswim.

I see what Ramona says and he knows his stuff.

Your main problem is the boat is in Sydney and you are in Melbourne.

If you lived in Sydney, sorting the boat out could be quite viable.

Maybe the broker can help you in some way so it is worth giving him a call again.

Thats a good outcome cantswim. Lots of good advice from all in this forum. I am not a sailor but own a stink boat (as a yachtie friend of mine calls it) but always enjoy the good info on various topics in here. I hope you find something to give you many good years on the water.

smelly with the fumes and noise and all things not peaceful like when sailing.

Ha ha. At least she is still on the water today not stuck home with a vomitey eleven year old

I don't know Jonathon Frearson but I know the owner and a number of others at Woolwich Marina and they are good people. My previous boat was around the corner in the Lane Cove river so they were my local marina. I bring my current boat from Pittwater to Woolwich for any major rigging work.
I am very pleased that Jonathon has done the right thing for you. I will be able to recommend him to others.
All the best with the next purchase, it is in your blood now.

Apart from the poor sap who unwittingly now buys the boat not knowing any better thinking that they are getting a bargain.