Who thinks we are heading for a recession?

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bjw
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21 Jun 2011 7:21pm
EBAY > $AUS > $US
adolf
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log man
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29 Jun 2011 10:00am


Isn't it great of these doyens of capitalism, come together in this "cheese off" to advise us all on what gun they will use to shoot each other when the end comes. And so cheerful, or was that the glazed look on their faces due to all the Botox, hair transplants and porcelain veneers that cause that permanent surprised look. FFS, and enough of the "buy my gold and silver "sales pitch already!!!
j murray
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29 Jun 2011 9:51am

Would that be My Big Fat Greek Recession we are looking forward too
ADS
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ADS ADS
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29 Jun 2011 10:56am
Isn't it great of these doyens of capitalism, come together in this "cheese off" to advise us all on what gun they will use to shoot each other when the end comes. And so cheerful, or was that the glazed look on their faces due to all the Botox, hair transplants and porcelain veneers that cause that permanent surprised look. FFS, and enough of the "buy my gold and silver "sales pitch already!!!


I don't like a fair bit of what was said in that video however, it's typical of the socialist left that when anyone states something they disagree with they are personally attacked and insulted. Just look at the global warming and carbon dioxide tax debates for example.
Shame
log man
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29 Jun 2011 5:06pm
Aw, come on ADS, are you telling me that if anyone of these sactimonious prats turned up on your doorstep you wouldn't "release the hounds". Surely on that list of the most trustworthy occupations that gets published every year, the professions of "self help book author" "financial guru" and "Nazi prison camp dentist" would be grouped fairly closely together. These people make my skin crawl.
dinsdale
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29 Jun 2011 3:12pm
ADS said...
log man said...
Isn't it great of these doyens of capitalism, come together in this "cheese off" to advise us all on what gun they will use to shoot each other when the end comes. And so cheerful, or was that the glazed look on their faces due to all the Botox, hair transplants and porcelain veneers that cause that permanent surprised look. FFS, and enough of the "buy my gold and silver "sales pitch already!!!


I don't like a fair bit of what was said in that video however, it's typical of the socialist left that when anyone states something they disagree with they are personally attacked and insulted. Just look at the global warming and carbon dioxide tax debates for example.
Shame

Wait till barn disagrees with you . You're right however, it is "... typical of the socialist left ...", not just on these forums.

whippingboy
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29 Jun 2011 3:51pm
Quote from a US real estate investment advisor John T Reed

"Rich Dad, Poor Dad is one of the dumbest financial advice books I have ever read. It contains many factual errors and numerous extremely unlikely accounts of events that supposedly occurred.

Kiyosaki is a salesman and a motivational speaker. He has no financial expertise and won't disclose his supposed real estate or other investment success.

Rich Dad, Poor Dad contains much wrong advice, much bad advice, some dangerous advice, and virtually no good advice."

Poida
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29 Jun 2011 4:05pm
^^^^ thats fairly obvious

maybe they have speculated in the gold and silver also
adolf
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29 Jun 2011 4:10pm
whippingboy said...

Quote from a US real estate investment advisor John T Reed

"Rich Dad, Poor Dad is one of the dumbest financial advice books I have ever read. It contains many factual errors and numerous extremely unlikely accounts of events that supposedly occurred.

Kiyosaki is a salesman and a motivational speaker. He has no financial expertise and won't disclose his supposed real estate or other investment success.

Rich Dad, Poor Dad contains much wrong advice, much bad advice, some dangerous advice, and virtually no good advice."




LOL Never heard of him - who tf is john t reed - does he work with Ray White?

Heard of that Rich Dad Poor Dad dick - he wrote a few best sellers.
dinsdale
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29 Jun 2011 5:49pm
Yep, I still reckon there's the recession to end all recessions on its way. Timing is the big question - not if, but when.
http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/mikeshedlock/2011/06/29/china_credit_bubble_will_be_pop_heard_round_the_world/page/full/
and
globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/
cisco
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30 Jun 2011 3:01am
When my thoughts stray to such depressing matters as this I like to head on down to "The Church of What's Happenin Now" aka the Storey Bridge Hotel and listen to this gal and her guys.

She has a good understanding that everything will be alright.



and here Blind Dog Donnie gets it on at Woodford.



Momma just don't allow no negative thoughts 'round here.

adolf
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4 Aug 2011 9:01pm
The mother of all recessions is coming and it looks like it's coming fast and hard. Still plenty of employment in Australia so I'm not quite sure how this one is going to play out, how deep we will sink and for how long. I wonder when Swan is going to first say the "R" word - I'm guessing early September.

Retail has already crashed, housing is looking weak. Probably when China tells us it won't need quite as much coal this month - that's when the reality will hit us.
kiteboy dave
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4 Aug 2011 11:27pm
Quick, everyone flee, the end is coming!
saltiest1
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4 Aug 2011 11:48pm
isnt a recession 3 or more terms of negative growth of gdp?
adolf
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4 Aug 2011 9:55pm
saltiest1 said...

isnt a recession 3 or more terms of negative growth of gdp?


technically a recession is 2 quarters of negative gdp growth and we just had one in the first quarter of 2011. We have just finished the second quarter and the figures will be announced by the ABS in September.

The last recession we had in Australia was in the 1990s - we are due.
log man
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5 Aug 2011 12:16am
adolf said...

Mark Faber has awesome accent, has been pretty accurate with his forecasts and has good quotes



The federal government is sending each of us a $600 rebate. If we spend that money at Wal-Mart, the money goes to China. If we spend it on gasoline it goes to the Arabs. If we buy a computer it will go to India. If we purchase fruit and vegetables it will go to Mexico, Honduras and Guatemala. If we purchase a good car it will go to Germany. If we purchase useless crap it will go to Taiwan and none of it will help the American economy. The only way to keep that money here at home is to spend it on prostitutes and beer, since these are the only products still produced in US. I've been doing my part.


sorry Adolph but I just noticed that at 12 seconds a back shot of Mr. Faber shows he has a pony tail................ enough said!
adolf
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4 Aug 2011 10:31pm
Marc Faber makes me want to grow a whispy pony tail and talk about gloom doom boom all day long.

I don't know if it's that Swiss accent, his arrogance or what he says. I just like the package.
GreenPat
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5 Aug 2011 3:03pm
All quiet in here despite the last 18 hours of trading?
kyteryder
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5 Aug 2011 3:13pm
^^^
I think everyone must be talking to their stock broker or on Commsec, instead of Seabreeze.

FlySurfer
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5 Aug 2011 3:26pm
I'm sitting sweet :)
log man
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5 Aug 2011 3:33pm
GreenPat said...

All quiet in here despite the last 18 hours of trading?


I reckon it's a sad indictment that on a surfing/sailing watersports forum we're talking about our stock market positions instead of waves, boards, sex and politics. FFS
patsken
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5 Aug 2011 1:42pm
whippingboy said...

Quote from a US real estate investment advisor John T Reed

"Rich Dad, Poor Dad is one of the dumbest financial advice books I have ever read. It contains many factual errors and numerous extremely unlikely accounts of events that supposedly occurred.

Kiyosaki is a salesman and a motivational speaker. He has no financial expertise and won't disclose his supposed real estate or other investment success.

Rich Dad, Poor Dad contains much wrong advice, much bad advice, some dangerous advice, and virtually no good advice."







.....and a US real estate advisor is some-one you really wouldn't want to listen to at the moment I would think !!!! It's one salesman slagging off another.
Sailhack
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5 Aug 2011 3:53pm
My shares haven't dropped at all...then again, I don't have any.
poor relative
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5 Aug 2011 2:11pm
I dont get it interest rates stay low, goods get cheaper, dollar is stronger than ever against US$ so stuff is realy cheap there - why should i worry?
GalahOnTheBay
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5 Aug 2011 4:16pm
I don't understand why people have shares, the market now has nothing to do with raising capital any more, and everything to do with speculation, fear mongering, manipulation and profiteering.

This book is not bad bed time reading for those interested:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fooled_by_Randomness

Taleb sets forth the idea that modern humans are often unaware of the existence of randomness. They tend to explain random outcomes as non-random.

Human beings:

overestimate causality, e.g., they see elephants in the clouds instead of understanding that they are in fact randomly shaped clouds that appear to our eyes as elephants (or something else);
tend to view the world as more explainable than it really is. So they look for explanations even when there are none.


So why are the markets worth 4% less than they were yesterday? What changed? Nothing. Apart from fear and/or a small group of people / organisations making a whole pile of money.
kyteryder
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5 Aug 2011 4:23pm
Sailhack said...

My shares haven't dropped at all...then again, I don't have any.


If you have superannuation then you may have shares in your portfolio.

Im the same no shares except super.

Lucky im not going to retire for another 30 years
adolf
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5 Aug 2011 5:11pm
log man said...

GreenPat said...

All quiet in here despite the last 18 hours of trading?


I reckon it's a sad indictment that on a surfing/sailing watersports forum we're talking about our stock market positions instead of waves, boards, sex and politics. FFS


Sorry, why is discussing the economy any more of a sad indictment on a surfing/sailboard watersports forum than talking about David Hicks, CO2 Tax, Mr Bean, Shane Warne's freaking unusual face, or anything else on shooting the breeze?

Please explain.
Pugwash
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5 Aug 2011 5:24pm
FlySurfer said...

I'm sitting sweet :)


I'm tweeting sheet
log man
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5 Aug 2011 7:32pm
adolf said...

log man said...

GreenPat said...

All quiet in here despite the last 18 hours of trading?


I reckon it's a sad indictment that on a surfing/sailing watersports forum we're talking about our stock market positions instead of waves, boards, sex and politics. FFS


Sorry, why is discussing the economy any more of a sad indictment on a surfing/sailboard watersports forum than talking about David Hicks, CO2 Tax, Mr Bean, Shane Warne's freaking unusual face, or anything else on shooting the breeze?

Please explain.


I don't know, it's kind of .....wrong
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