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Mister Dugong
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21 Oct 2010 8:58pm
waxman said...

elmo said...
















can we organise this as a full size screen saver please?
Sailhack
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22 Oct 2010 9:34am
Most conspiracies are assumtions made by public based on alternative theories thought up by 'experts' with no actual work to do...in this case, seeing a plane hitting the buildings makes more sense to me that this would be the cause of the collapse than any other 'theory' put forward - derr!

If I were to believe that it was a controlled demo, how did the pyros sneak around inside the office (probably wearing hi-viz safety gear!) drilling explosions into the structure, then cabling the detonators (although possibly remote detonation) without any of the workers knowing? Have you ever heard an industrial masonry drill???

Anyone with any construction knowledge knows that the buildings 'core' (mostly concrete liftshafts/stairwells) braces it from lateral movement, so regardless of what makes the building fall, it will drop near vertcally.
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22 Oct 2010 9:47am
Sailhack said...


If I were to believe that it was a controlled demo, how did the pyros sneak around inside the office (probably wearing hi-viz safety gear!) drilling explosions into the structure, then cabling the detonators (although possibly remote detonation) without any of the workers knowing? Have you ever heard an industrial masonry drill???




Maybe they just distracted all the male office workers by setting up the heaving bosoms as screensavers.
petermac33
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22 Oct 2010 7:16am
9-11 conspiracy discussed in parliament,first time ever.


www.truthnews.com.au/radio/wordpress/?p=1877


poor relative
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22 Oct 2010 7:25am
petermac33 said...

9-11 conspiracy discussed in parliament,first time ever.


www.truthnews.com.au/radio/wordpress/?p=1877





Julia Gillard said......

Julia Gillard has now gone on record in Federal Parliament saying that the substantive claims of the 9/11 truth movement are “stupid and wrong”,


LOL
elmo
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22 Oct 2010 7:30am
petermac33 said...

Baaa bbbaaaaaa baaaa baa baaa


www.truthnews.com.au/radio/wordpress/Whogivesafark





japie
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22 Oct 2010 10:35am
frant said...

Sailhack said...


If I were to believe that it was a controlled demo, how did the pyros sneak around inside the office (probably wearing hi-viz safety gear!) drilling explosions into the structure, then cabling the detonators (although possibly remote detonation) without any of the workers knowing? Have you ever heard an industrial masonry drill???




Maybe they just distracted all the male office workers by setting up the heaving bosoms as screensavers.


Almost right there. Wasn't our heaving bosoms from seabreeze, least I don't think so. Nevertheless most of the global population is distracted to the degree where they do not kow if they are Arthur or Martha.

Remember that box in 1984? Well it is up and running and very very effective.
petermac33
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22 Oct 2010 8:11am
majority don't have the foggiest idea what's going on,further they don't give a ...k!

1984 you can see it unravelleling day by day,majority don't give a ....

9-11 a conspiracy so what,at least we get cheap oil is attitude.

good article on henry makow on Mongolia,sums up what's really going on....not

that anyone ..... . ....
Bigwavedave
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22 Oct 2010 10:16am
petermac33 said...

majority don't have the foggiest idea what's going on,further they don't give a ...k!

1984 you can see it unravelleling day by day,majority don't give a ....

9-11 a conspiracy so what,at least we get cheap oil is attitude.

good article on henry makow on Mongolia,sums up what's really going on....not

that anyone ..... . ....



we don't give a sh1t about your crazy ramblings.....
lightwood
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22 Oct 2010 11:33am
Who is we?
poor relative
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22 Oct 2010 9:04am
petermac33 said...

majority don't have the foggiest idea what's going on,further they don't give a ...k!

1984 you can see it unravelleling day by day,majority don't give a ....

9-11 a conspiracy so what,at least we get cheap oil is attitude.

good article on henry makow on Mongolia,sums up what's really going on....not

that anyone ..... . ....


So what you going to do about it Petermac?
Now that you have discovered concrete evidence that beyond any shadow of doubt proves the entire world government is corrupt and slowly killing the masses - shouldn't you do something?

Oh you are....your posting on a water sports forum.

At least build a placard
Trant
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22 Oct 2010 12:53pm
petermac33 said...

majority don't have the foggiest idea what's going on,further they don't give a ...k!


I would think that most people are cynics, so they view the major media with a touch of scepticism. But they would view Youtube experts with a lot more scepticism.

Just out of interest, if the towers had been blown up by the US government. What would that have achieved over "simply" smashing two planes into them?
i.e. Do you think the US wouldn't have gone to war if the buildings had still been standing after the planes crashed into them? (Despite live video feeds of people jumping to their deaths out of burning buildings?)

Seems a bit of an overkill for a conspiracy in my humble opinion.

theDoctor
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22 Oct 2010 1:16pm
japie said...


Remember that box in 1984? Well it is up and running and very very effective.


ha, orwell and huxley would be sitting watchin from their own special little place in hell screaming

"see you stupid frucking idiots, we frucking told you so!"

soma anyone....?
Carantoc
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22 Oct 2010 12:35pm
Trant said...

Just out of interest, if the towers had been blown up by the US government. What would that have achieved over "simply" smashing two planes into them?

Seems a bit of an overkill for a conspiracy in my humble opinion.



Yep, me too.

Got to wnder why, if you are going to blow up some buildings you disguise it by flying planes into them.

Why not disguise it with some crazy fundamentalists planting bombs in them ?

Wouldn't it be a bit easier ?

And why try to bring tower 7 down neatly (it's neat collapse is the basis of the theory). What is served by killing 2,000 people and bringing down such terror, yet making sure building 7 collapsed with the least amount of damage to surrounding buildings ? If the thoery is true why not just blow it up and cause maximum destruction for even greater effect ?
Carantoc
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22 Oct 2010 12:42pm
theDoctor said...

japie said...


Remember that box in 1984? Well it is up and running and very very effective.


ha, orwell and huxley would be sitting watchin from their own special little place in hell screaming

"see you stupid frucking idiots, we frucking told you so!"

soma anyone....?


But didn't Hertodotus say the same thing about the empiralisation of Rome and bemoan the loss of its republican roots ?

It is an old arguement, of which every generation has determine has occured during its own age, and that the past was freer and greater than the present.

If this were true then society would have imploded by now in an exponentially spiralling descent into tirany. It hasn't, unless I missed something.

Thus I conclude the premise is something grown from human evolution and the fear of it occuring, not from the reality of its occurance.
Carantoc
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22 Oct 2010 12:47pm
Has anyone yet calculated the resonant frequency of that (now famous) young lady's chest ?

The clip seems to show some decrease in amplitude over time. I believe this is not due to film editing, but to some natural effect.

er, not that I have been studying it.
doggie
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22 Oct 2010 1:06pm
Carantoc said...

Has anyone yet calculated the resonant frequency of that (now famous) young lady's chest ?

The clip seems to show some decrease in amplitude over time. I believe this is not due to film editing, but to some natural effect.

er, not that I have been studying it.


Its because there is too many of them, there should be more boobs tho (.)(.)
theDoctor
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22 Oct 2010 4:15pm
Carantoc said...


If this were true then society would have imploded by now in an exponentially spiralling descent into tirany. It hasn't, unless I missed something.




ummm, If thats your logic, then my guess is you wouldn't recognise an elephant in the room if it was to knock you over with its big grey schnoz and stomp on your chest..

read David Hicks' Guantanamo My Story for a glimpse of the tyranny that this world is spiralling into...

or watch one of the many documentaries that are available detailing our societies decent while we occupy ourselves with 'bread and circuses'... or boobs in doggies case

how very imperialistically roman of us....
Trant
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22 Oct 2010 4:34pm
theDoctor said...
watch one of the many documentaries that are available detailing our societies decent while we occupy ourselves with 'bread and circuses'... or boobs in doggies case


Do you have any thoughts of your own?

theDoctor
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22 Oct 2010 5:12pm
well yes actually, probably more than you do.

to me your mentality smacks of

accept the mainstream believe what you're told and be regarded as an intellectual free thinker.

view something that is not shown on today tonight or reported in the daily telegraph and form an opinion on it based rationally by what you have seen (from both sides) and be regarded as conspiracy fringe...

to me you don't have any thoughts that are your own, you don't have to question, investigate or think for yourself, your mind is already made up for you...

hence japies' orwell comment

want some more soma...?
Trant
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22 Oct 2010 5:32pm
theDoctor said...
to me your mentality smacks of

accept the mainstream believe what you're told and be regarded as an intellectual free thinker.

view something that is not shown on today tonight or reported in the daily telegraph and form an opinion on it based rationally by what you have seen (from both sides) and be regarded as conspiracy fringe...



Yet I'm not the one telling people to "read this", "watch this" or "listen to...."

So you're a free thinker?
log man
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22 Oct 2010 5:35pm
theDoctor said...

well yes actually, probably more than you do.

to me your mentality smacks of

accept the mainstream believe what you're told and be regarded as an intellectual free thinker.

view something that is not shown on today tonight or reported in the daily telegraph and form an opinion on it based rationally by what you have seen (from both sides) and be regarded as conspiracy fringe...

to me you don't have any thoughts that are your own, you don't have to question, investigate or think for yourself, your mind is already made up for you...

hence japies' orwell comment

want some more soma...?



Doctor, 1 and 2 , possibly 5 and, yep 10(especially the inability to recognise a good source and good information)
theDoctor
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22 Oct 2010 5:58pm

No you are the one who's telling us everything is fine and dandy, how our forefathers have delivered us and emancipated our society from the clutches of tyranny

and I'm the one giving you examples to the contrary

or atleast suggesting that maybe things are not quite what you believe them to be.

nothing is cut and dry, black or white, completely true or untrue

well it is, but at the same time it isn't

if you can get your head 'round that, you might be free enough to think for yourself

planes alone did not bring down those towers (planes had nothing to do with it)

you today tonighters mock the 'experts' who give evidence on documentaries that won't be shown on prime time but which are uploaded onto the very last bastion of relatively uncensored free speech we have, yet lap up the utter bullsiht that is presented by puppeted 'experts' bought and paid for by commercial interests...

I bet you all think there really is a ponds institute

I feel sorry for your kids

Trant
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22 Oct 2010 6:31pm
theDoctor said...


No you are the one who's telling us everything is fine and dandy, how our forefathers have delivered us and emancipated our society from the clutches of tyranny

and I'm the one giving you examples to the contrary

or atleast suggesting that maybe things are not quite what you believe them to be.

nothing is cut and dry, black or white, completely true or untrue

well it is, but at the same time it isn't

if you can get your head 'round that, you might be free enough to think for yourself

planes alone did not bring down those towers (planes had nothing to do with it)

you today tonighters mock the 'experts' who give evidence on documentaries that won't be shown on prime time but which are uploaded onto the very last bastion of relatively uncensored free speech we have, yet lap up the utter bullsiht that is presented by puppeted 'experts' bought and paid for by commercial interests...

I bet you all think there really is a ponds institute

I feel sorry for your kids




No, I've actually said little of what I believe, I've asked a relatively simple question because I'm quite sceptical of anything people tell me.

You & PM33 are the ones' professing to hold all the answers, I'm simply questioning what you're saying. Now, can you answer my question since you profess to know it all?

" if the towers had been blown up by the US government. What would that have achieved over "simply" smashing two planes into them?"

i.e. Why would there be a need to blow up some buildings that had just been hit by some airliners? Were the airliners not enough on their own?




petermac33
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22 Oct 2010 3:40pm
www.henrymakow.com/nwo_history_of_mongolia.html



the mainstream media is controlled by the corporatist oligarchy,the same oligarchy

that controls every country. ask yourself who benefits.

read the article to find out what they have done to Mongolia.


maxm
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22 Oct 2010 7:01pm
petermac33 said...

www.henrymakow.com/nwo_history_of_mongolia.html



the mainstream media is controlled by the corporatist oligarchy,the same oligarchy

that controls every country. ask yourself who benefits.

read the article to find out what they have done to Mongolia.





Y'know, peter, I'm convinced. Yep, every syllable. The intelligencia has been controlling the world since Moses was in shorts and socks.

And I think they're doing such a FAN-FUC-KING-TAS-TIC job that I just wish they'd come out from hiding so I could thank them. I know it's true because my free thinking tells me that things couldn't have improved so much without a guiding intelligence making it all happen.

If they'd just pushed a bit harder a bit earlier, my dad would've survived his heart attack and seen fifty. Now my old mum is the wrong side of eighty, has a heart problem, they take her in, fix it up and she goes home for dinner. (TRUE)

Where do I go to thank these people? I've asked you that before but you don't answer. So I'm assuming you don't have a clue, do you? How come?

You know every other tiny detail. How come you don't know that?

maxm
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22 Oct 2010 7:07pm
Hey! No asterisks!!
FlySurfer
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22 Oct 2010 7:41pm
Guys stop using my boobs!

They're mine you hear, MINE!


PS: The 9 year debate is a marker for cognitive ability... 2 bullets 3 hits? Fire demolitions?
There's an idea... if you're one of the stupid ones, why don't you start a new business "Jet Fuel Demolitions" way cheaper than thermite, RDX, C4...

log man
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22 Oct 2010 8:34pm
theDoctor said...


No you are the one who's telling us everything is fine and dandy, how our forefathers have delivered us and emancipated our society from the clutches of tyranny

and I'm the one giving you examples to the contrary

or atleast suggesting that maybe things are not quite what you believe them to be.

nothing is cut and dry, black or white, completely true or untrue

well it is, but at the same time it isn't

if you can get your head 'round that, you might be free enough to think for yourself

planes alone did not bring down those towers (planes had nothing to do with it)

you today tonighters mock the 'experts' who give evidence on documentaries that won't be shown on prime time but which are uploaded onto the very last bastion of relatively uncensored free speech we have, yet lap up the utter bullsiht that is presented by puppeted 'experts' bought and paid for by commercial interests...

I bet you all think there really is a ponds institute

I feel sorry for your kids




Yep, again, 1,2,3,and the edition of 7. this is like loony bingo
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22 Oct 2010 8:58pm
petermac33 said...

majority don't have the foggiest idea what's going on,further they don't give a ...k!



it must be nice for you to be part of the majority for once...

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