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subasurf
subasurf
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2 Apr 2012 9:44pm
Tough situation.
It's already been said, but don't blow up and forbid her from doing anything. You'll regret it, of that I am sure. Make sure she is given a chance to explain and tell her side of the story. If she feels that you'll actually listen then things are far more likely to go smooth.

Your approach to this has to be very cool and calculated...which cannot be easy in these situations.

I've lost two very close friends who were great guys to drugs. One killed himself and one overdosed 36 hours before rehab on one of those real bad batches of H that hit Perth. The 5hit can get anyone.

Best of luck mate. What a 5hitty situation to find yourself in. **** drugs and **** the dealers. If hell existed, I'd expect them to have their own special area.
sn
sn
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sn sn
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2 Apr 2012 10:05pm
mineral1 said...
I F....... HATE STREET DRUGS, AND F.... DRUG PUSHERS


same here, my youngest sister is messed up real bad from pills and weed, cant hold a job, borderline hysteria round the clock, affected our family heavily.

luckily our step mum was a psyc. nurse and spend many years dealing with similar- and our family being heavily Salvation Army helped us cope with a very tough time.
It still isnt easy- My sister is now in her 40's and married, and we reckon the bloke that married her is either an angel- or idiot. She will never hold a decent job, even basic stuff like cleaning or gardening cant hold her attention.
We still get phone calls at all hours with a shaky stressed out voice on the other end.
I swear- if I ever find the mongrel that did this to our family, julimar forrest will have a well fertilised patch.

I spent years working at a big beachside hotel in scarborough-being the bloke who could open deadlocked doors I was often first on the scene of overdoses and suicides (half assed attempts, overdoses and the occaisional successful one)
I have fiddled doors open to see walls painted in blood,and other stuff.
One where a young lass skinned her arm with her fingernails,
a similar one from a bloke who tried castrating himself,
another time,a bloke that jumped from 17th floor- aiming for the lamp post outside the pommy pub directly underneath- missed and hit the limestone wall- and burst like a cheap snagger on the barbie. not nice first thing in the morning.took me ages to hose the area down- couldnt get it all- seagulls were too fast.

I used to come home sometimes feeling like I had been in a warzone.

Anyone that tells me they can handle thier drugs is only fooling themselves.

As a last note- before my step mum retired, she was based at Bently mental outpatients clinic.
Over 80% of thier workload was from marijuana induced psychosis, the other 20% were from "regular" stress, other drugs other stuff.
then speed, extacy, meth arrived big time just as she retired. it was a good time for her to retire.

Stephen
smicko
smicko
WA
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2 Apr 2012 10:12pm
e0422713 said...

I thought id breach the mistrust when we found out she did not attend the party or the sleep over and came home the next day. 15 yrs old


Geez Luke I feel for you ya poor bugger, not a nice situation to be in.

I think your quote above is the perfect explanation as to why you were in her drawers- "If you're going to break our trust in you how can you expect us to trust you? We were worried about you and looking for a means of contacting you....."

Still not going to make it any easier. Don't know whether you've had any experience with pills etc yourself but if you haven't do some research. And I don't mean sites that just say "DON'T!" That approach won't work, you'll need to go in with a balanced attack. Remember what it was like to be a teen yourself.

Fark I'm dreading this $hit!! I feel for you mate, I really do



Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
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2 Apr 2012 10:16pm
sn said...
I have fiddled doors open to see walls painted in blood,and other stuff.
One where a young lass skinned her arm with her fingernails,
a similar one from a bloke who tried castrating himself,
another time,a bloke that jumped from 17th floor- aiming for the lamp post outside the pommy pub directly underneath- missed and hit the limestone wall- and burst like a cheap snagger on the barbie. not nice first thing in the morning.took me ages to hose the area down- couldnt get it all- seagulls were too fast.

I used to come home sometimes feeling like I had been in a warzone.

Anyone that tells me they can handle thier drugs is only fooling themselves.



Hey apparently if we legalise everything it will be all cool
No dealers means no organised crime and stuff.

And none of the above will happen.

Yeah right.

saltiest1
saltiest1
NSW
2568 posts
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3 Apr 2012 12:19am
when i was about 14 a freind of our family showed some photos of 50 year old men and women. well they were actually about 20 to 30 years old and crack heads.
he was head of the kings cross area drug command in the police. so many interesting stories, all made my mind up to stay away from that stuff.
best of luck with it all mate. i have got no idea on how to tackle that one, but if you see fit, can you keep us in the loop as to how it goes as like me, there are others here thatd appreciated the success and not so successful results to learn from you.
e0422713
e0422713
WA
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2 Apr 2012 10:57pm
I asked her if she had anything in her room that was illegal
She said no
I have images of the real pills and shown her.
She now has bolted since 6 pm and the cops say i can list her missing till after 24 hrs
subasurf
subasurf
WA
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2 Apr 2012 11:00pm
...and so it begins

Going to be a long night mate, but keep it together.
Underoath
Underoath
QLD
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3 Apr 2012 1:10am
e0422713 said...

I asked her if she had anything in her room that was illegal
She said no
I have images of the real pills and shown her.
She now has bolted since 6 pm and the cops say i can list her missing till after 24 hrs


Chances are shes would be at her best friends/bfs house.

Praying for you and your daughter.
RPM
RPM
WA
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RPM RPM
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2 Apr 2012 11:11pm
You can't blame her for doing the houdini... What did you expect?

As DM stated you went in her dresser drawers and that in any kids rulebook is a red card..Next time she'll be smarter and hide things much better, I would if I were her and living under your roof.

In fact she's is prob around at her boyfriends right now on the pingers reading seabreeze...... What suspicions made you go through her stuff anyways??? Only way out is to tell her you are pissed and to not bring the stuff in the house again..

Kids are gonna do pingers with or without your permission or approval.. Same as drinking and smoking... What can you do besides voice your opinion? You were young once so keep that in mind. Have you ever smoked weed or similar????

She's prob out of pocket 120 bucks now. That's gotta hurt a 15 yo more than dad throwing a wobbly...

Long story short.. Be thankful she didn't have meth or Ice...
e0422713
e0422713
WA
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2 Apr 2012 11:40pm
she has come home......
busterwa
busterwa
3782 posts
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2 Apr 2012 11:50pm
I would of just replaced them with panadol.

smash back 2 of them put the last one in "beloveds wine (your wifeys )" (without out her consent like a responsible adult)Then rubb dencorub on your bell-end and drill her jackhammer till she cant walk
GPA
GPA
WA
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GPA GPA
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2 Apr 2012 11:53pm
^^^
Good news! Phew.... a mate's 15yo daughter did a runner that lasted 4 days... that was not good. She was staying with some boy she met on FaceBook .

Take a deep breath and have the talk... say what you need to say but try not to get angry and raise your voice. She's not an adult - but she thinks she (nearly) is.

Good luck.
smicko
smicko
WA
2503 posts
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2 Apr 2012 11:53pm
e0422713 said...

she has come home......


Good, I hope it all goes well for you all.

Buster, you are a sick unit
busterwa
busterwa
3782 posts
3782 posts
3 Apr 2012 12:06am
She is feeling betrayed because you went thru her personal zone.. I think every adolescent goes thru experimental stages. When i was at that age i was invincible.Me and my friends went thru a trail stage with the drugs thing i think a small percentage got hooked unfortunately.
When i grew up mum would do all the snooping My mum was pretty lenient. If you pissed mum of enough shed tell dad.. Then you be up for a complete asswhoopin. We used to run away but a few day later come back when the money run out and hunger pains kicked in.
youngbull
youngbull
QLD
826 posts
QLD, 826 posts
3 Apr 2012 2:35am
Glad to here she is home safe and sound..

IMO from reading all the post sounds like most people don't care that you could have
drugs/guns ect under your own roof.
They can have all the privacy they want when they move out.

There should alway's be a VERY CLEAR line drawn about how you respect your parents decisions and what goes on in the house and what is in it.

What RPM said about you should be thankful she could be doing meth/ice, Is BS.
eg: I am so thankful I took 1 x'tasy not 2 and only spent a week in hospital.

There is nothing to be thankful for, she had drug's = she used or is using.

Some people have stated some very good ways to deal with it. There is always an
external influence, that's where I would start.

I have tried a good portion of substances. A good hobby will always win over drug's.
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
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3 Apr 2012 11:03am
Teenage brains:
www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2011/10/





sausage
sausage
QLD
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3 Apr 2012 11:35am
Interesting topic - I've got 12 years before my daughter becomes a teenager!

Anyone see Bob Carr on ABC breakfast News this morning. Very interesting debate about wasting police resources going after end users as opposed to concentrating on the importers / dealers. www.brisbanetimes.com.au/politics/federal/drugs-war-a-failure-that-bred-criminals-20120402-1w8v3.html
Rex
Rex
WA
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Rex Rex
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3 Apr 2012 9:53am
sausage said...

Interesting topic - I've got 12 years before my daughter becomes a teenager!




Keep your family unit tight and lots of communication, keep the kids on a short leash. The biggest problem is all the slack arse parents that let their kids run wild - it puts pressure on all the parents trying to do the right thing.
K Dog
K Dog
VIC
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3 Apr 2012 11:58am
The legalisation arguement is as old as QLDERS trying to introduce day light savings.... you can't cure dumb.... they will never do it.

Agree with the reasoning he gives though.... catching users is useless.... catch and shut down manufacturers......



evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
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3 Apr 2012 1:13pm
K Dog said...

The legalisation arguement is as old as QLDERS trying to introduce day light savings.... you can't cure dumb.... they will never do it.

Agree with the reasoning he gives though.... catching users is useless.... catch and shut down manufacturers......


Not quite the idea.

''The key as I see it is to try to reduce substantially the profit potentially able to be made by criminal activity in the drug trade and the only way to do that as I see it, ultimately, is to legalise, regulate, control and tax all drugs.''


The idea, I take it, is to make the product both safer and practically worthless to criminals: legalisation and regulation.

You have to admit, after 40 years, the current approach does not work. It's ironic; the more successful the current strategy is, the higher the value of the product, the more profit for people peddling it.
boofta
boofta
NSW
179 posts
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3 Apr 2012 1:53pm
It's a reasonable idea to de-criminalise some drugs.
Some are so addictive that dealers should be shot!
This meth crap only takes one dose to destroy you.
Yet the kids all want to try, they believe they can
stop whenever they feel like it, WRONG, it will kill you.
Even pot will eventually pickle your brain, I guess it
helps if you don't have the brains not to start you
will certainly not have the sense to stop.
Please go and rob somewhere else when your addicted.
jbshack
jbshack
WA
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3 Apr 2012 11:53am
I think a big point is most of the kids today have never seen or understand the hard side of life. Most wouldn't even believe you if you told them.

I believe that you can punish her as she has broken a rule by bringing drugs into your house. But make her punishment something to learn by. Make her accompany you to a homeless shelter. Let her see what drugs can do to you. (not saying all homeless people are druggies) I know it sounds hard but take her to a known prostitute hangout, see how she likes that, even go and sit down at the local booking station on a Sat night.. Reality is what today's kids understand.

I agree a good hobby or sport is the best deterrent. That and for the girls looking good is what i'm working on. My Daughter is 11 and son 8 so I'm about to start down your path.

Thanks for sharing and best of luck.
harry potter
harry potter
VIC
2777 posts
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3 Apr 2012 2:50pm
It may help to talk to her or show her pictures of where eccies are made, clandestine labs are usually disgusting and criminal mixers often cut in other substances to help their bottom line.

Explain to her that you really have no way of knowing what is being put into the pills.
It just may make her think twice.

poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
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3 Apr 2012 3:06pm
boofta said...

It's a reasonable idea to de-criminalise some drugs.
Some are so addictive that dealers should be shot!
This meth crap only takes one dose to destroy you.
Yet the kids all want to try, they believe they can
stop whenever they feel like it, WRONG, it will kill you.
Even pot will eventually pickle your brain, I guess it
helps if you don't have the brains not to start you
will certainly not have the sense to stop.
Please go and rob somewhere else when your addicted.


Y'know kids read and hear stuff like this and it re-inforces the 'you don't know sh!t'
This post is a train wreck of mis-information and hype.
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
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3 Apr 2012 3:08pm
poor relative said...

boofta said...

It's a reasonable idea to de-criminalise some drugs.
Some are so addictive that dealers should be shot!
This meth crap only takes one dose to destroy you.
Yet the kids all want to try, they believe they can
stop whenever they feel like it, WRONG, it will kill you.
Even pot will eventually pickle your brain, I guess it
helps if you don't have the brains not to start you
will certainly not have the sense to stop.
Please go and rob somewhere else when your addicted.


Y'know kids read and hear stuff like this and it re-inforces the 'you don't know sh!t'
This post is a train wreck of mis-information and hype.


Yes I agree booftas post is full of crap, if ya dont know about it dont comment.....
Bone74
Bone74
380 posts
380 posts
3 Apr 2012 3:09pm
newo said...



Does she plan on travelling overseas?
There is no drug diversion for Ecstacy like there is for Cannabis.

IF she gets caught with even one... She won't be going to USA, Japan or Canada... plus others!

She will be charged with Possess Prohibited Drug. (On a criminal record it does not states what drug)... but I'm sure there will be chatter about it after her job interview when they look at her Police clearance.

www.police.wa.gov.au/404?item=%2fyoursafety%2falcoholanddrugs%2fillicitdrugsandthelaw%2ftabid%2f1468%2fdefault&user=extranet%5cAnonymous&site=wwwPolice

www.drugs.health.gov.au/internet/drugs/publishing.nsf/content/ecstasy


I tried to tell my youngest brother that he can't get to Canada with a drug charge (1 gram of coke just over a year ago $600 fine.)
His drop kick mates said he would be sweet.
He's actually a smart kid 28yo well actually an adualt in the eyes of the law
so he thought it would be sweet to just jump on a plane yesterday morning to spend a month. with his mates snow boarding.
I heard his already on his way back
some people just can't be told

just confirmed then by his mate refused entry to Canada for a minor drug conviction
let that be a lesson for ya kids
dinsdale
dinsdale
WA
1227 posts
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3 Apr 2012 3:21pm
Mark _australia said...

sn said...
Anyone that tells me they can handle thier drugs is only fooling themselves.

Hey apparently if we legalise everything it will be all cool
No dealers means no organised crime and stuff.

And none of the above will happen.

Yeah right.

Yea, I was wondering where FS had got to in this thread .

poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
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3 Apr 2012 3:23pm
Mark _australia said...


Hey apparently if we legalise everything it will be all cool
No dealers means no organised crime and stuff.

And none of the above will happen.

Yeah right.




Such a dumb thing to say.
Those things are happening already.
Maybe if drugs were decriminalised people might feel a bit safer in seeking assistance.
saltiest1
saltiest1
NSW
2568 posts
NSW, 2568 posts
3 Apr 2012 6:11pm
so, decrim drugs for who? 18 +? so what. the dealers will still have a market for the younguns, and those who want more than what they are allowed. silly debate. its only going to change the market, and new drugs will hit the streets.
kiterboy
kiterboy
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3 Apr 2012 4:34pm
yeah, I used to buy all my alcohol from dealers when I was under 18.
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