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Created by remery > 9 months ago, 3 Jul 2024
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FormulaNova
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30 Aug 2024 7:23AM
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Pcdefender said..
Bill Gates the master or expert on everything seemingly........he is a scientist, expert on vaccines, expert on their theory of man made global warming - you name it this guy is an expert.

Is there anything this puppet is not an expert in?


When you have billions of dollars at your command, no job, plenty of time, and want to improve the world, its amazing the people you can hire to give you expert opinions on all sorts of things.

Imagine an expert on vaccines. Bill Gates could have hired them to give a discussion about the future of vaccine research in the next ten years. See how that works?

Me, I have to research dodgy stuff on the internet and come up with a loose understanding of how it all works.

See how much difference there is in the way we would understand things? Bill Gates would have a better understanding because someone would have explained it to him, and even if they didn't he can just refer the questions to them.

Not really hard to offer expert opinions when you can hire good people to help you now is it?

(Don't get me started on how I have met so many managers in my life that don't delegate and think they are the single source of knowledge in the universe. They ARE idiots and should be tasked with doing their own gall bladder surgeries.)

FormulaNova
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30 Aug 2024 7:33AM
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fangman said..
Anyhoo, I am almost too afraid to ask, but what's the issue the CT mob have with a 15 minute city? Is it something to do with herding sheep?


It is because as most of us get older and fatter, walking 15 minutes is a struggle. Unless it is walking around Woolies with a packet of chips and a bottle of coke inhand.

I am therefore proposing 43 minute cities. They are much more achievable.

remery
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30 Aug 2024 8:25AM
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D3 said..
Why don't they claim the wins they actually got?

It was because of some observed signals in monitoring systems like VAERS that the Astra Zeneca and J&J vaccines were limited or removed from use.


I think the AstraZeneca vaccine was removed because it was safe and effective against the early variants. As the virus moves on, so must the vaccines.

remery
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30 Aug 2024 8:27AM
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FormulaNova said..

Pcdefender said..
Bill Gates the master or expert on everything seemingly........he is a scientist, expert on vaccines, expert on their theory of man made global warming - you name it this guy is an expert.

Is there anything this puppet is not an expert in?



When you have billions of dollars at your command, no job, plenty of time, and want to improve the world, its amazing the people you can hire to give you expert opinions on all sorts of things.

Imagine an expert on vaccines. Bill Gates could have hired them to give a discussion about the future of vaccine research in the next ten years. See how that works?

Me, I have to research dodgy stuff on the internet and come up with a loose understanding of how it all works.

See how much difference there is in the way we would understand things? Bill Gates would have a better understanding because someone would have explained it to him, and even if they didn't he can just refer the questions to them.

Not really hard to offer expert opinions when you can hire good people to help you now is it?

(Don't get me started on how I have met so many managers in my life that don't delegate and think they are the single source of knowledge in the universe. They ARE idiots and should be tasked with doing their own gall bladder surgeries.)


I've met one of Bill's advisers, she was really smart. She was very polite but quickly worked out she was wasting her time with me.

D3
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30 Aug 2024 8:28AM
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But it was limited to a particular demographic that was found to have less reaction to it, once those warning signals were investigated.

fangman
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30 Aug 2024 8:31AM
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FormulaNova said..

fangman said..

FormulaNova said..


fangman said..
I am a bit confused about this 'sheeple' thing and I think I missed the point. Herd behaviour is one of the most success strategies in nature to avoid predation. That is, it's the lone sheep that gets eaten. But from what I gather, there are proponents for the lone sheep strategy. I am obviously missing something. Anyone care to point a cognisant argument for me?




Are you an idiot!?? You clearly haven't been reading the correct memes!

Sheep AND People. Get it! Sheep follow each other, and the portmanteau of 'sheeple' clearly shows that these are stupid people following each other.

Of course, it is not quite clear if conspiracy theorists are creating their own irony with this 'slur' but who needs to look at these things too deeply?

I think if we weren't 'herd' people, we wouldn't have evolved much past the swinging from trees bit, let alone speech, upright walking, larger brains, and all that other jazz.

Again, please don't apply logic to this. 'Sheep and People' = Sheeple. It's as clever as we get.



Astounding! Thanks FN. I will try to look at the words with the sheep pictures when I see them next time, I usually just fall asleep counting the sheep.
(Oh and all the same, just sending off my complaint about calling me an idiot)



In my defence I was asking if you were an idiot. I hope you didn't think I was actually calling you one

The only idiot I know is the one typing this into the laptop right now.


haha, no I didn't think you were calling me an idiot..., only an idiot would think that.

As for 15 minute cities, I can't see it working. It takes me 15 minutes just wandering around the house trying to find my keys, wallet, phone, glasses and then trying to remember where I was going in the first place.

fangman
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30 Aug 2024 8:51AM
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remery said..


I've met one of Bill's advisers, she was really smart. She was very polite but quickly worked out she was wasting her time with me.


Wow, I am impressed. I had no idea Bill had an adviser on windsurfing skills.

Brent in Qld
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30 Aug 2024 8:58AM
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FormulaNova said..

fangman said..
Anyhoo, I am almost too afraid to ask, but what's the issue the CT mob have with a 15 minute city? Is it something to do with herding sheep?



It is because as most of us get older and fatter, walking 15 minutes is a struggle. Unless it is walking around Woolies with a packet of chips and a bottle of coke inhand.

I am therefore proposing 43 minute cities. They are much more achievable.


43mn cities... pffft. Your just fear mongering now, stupid comment. Back on topic, vaccines for foetus in Gaza during Ramadan as NATO prepares to drop condoms on the Illuminati Vatican.

ausbinny
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30 Aug 2024 12:57PM
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remery said..

Pcdefender said..
Repeat there are 140 000 reports to the TGA so far.

These are reports of harm suffered some from individuals and some from medics.

Some have reported more than one injury so the number of people reporting is less than the 140 K.

Most who suffer never report their harm to the TGA database.

The figures are off the charts horrendous.

Safe and effective we were repeatedly told.



And you have evidence that most people who suffer never report their harm to the TGA database? Remember grade 5 numbers are important. Adding is easy, subtraction more difficult. Division... well you have no hope.


I didn't report mine, probably should have - too late now

Pcdefender
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30 Aug 2024 3:30PM
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ausbinny said..

I didn't report mine, probably should have - too late now


So what injury did you get after taking the shot?

remery
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30 Aug 2024 8:25PM
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Pcdefender said..

So what injury did you get after taking the shot?


Me? Nothing after the original, or any of the the boosters. Haven't had covid either. How about you?

Pcdefender
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31 Aug 2024 1:40AM
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I tend not to comply with coercion so no experimental; shots for me.

The inventor of the PCR test is on record as saying it does not test for a virus.

D3
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31 Aug 2024 7:24AM
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Really? You got his exact quote, with context?

remery
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31 Aug 2024 7:30AM
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Pcdefender said..
I tend not to comply with coercion so no experimental; shots for me.

The inventor of the PCR test is on record as saying it does not test for a virus.


Really? He spoke from the grave?!

Kary Mullis, the Nobel prize winning biochemist who invented the polymerase chain reaction (PCR) method, died on 07 August 2019 before the first case of covid was identified.

fangman
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31 Aug 2024 8:33AM
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Pcdefender said:
The inventor of the PCR test is on record as saying it does not test for a virus.




Also, Melchisedech Thevenot is on record as saying spirit levels will not test for drunkeness. (he is the dude that invented them a few centuries back)
You might want to do your own research on Kary Mullis and what the polymerase chain reaction actually does.

Pcdefender
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31 Aug 2024 1:30PM
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remery said..


Pcdefender said..
I tend not to comply with coercion so no experimental; shots for me.

The inventor of the PCR test is on record as saying it does not test for a virus.




Really? He spoke from the grave?!

Kary Mullis, the Nobel prize winning biochemist who invented the polymerase chain reaction (PCR) method, died on 07 August 2019 before the first case of covid was identified.



He is on record stating EXACTLY what i said.

fangman
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31 Aug 2024 1:51PM
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Pcdefender said..

remery said..


Pcdefender said..
I tend not to comply with coercion so no experimental; shots for me.

The inventor of the PCR test is on record as saying it does not test for a virus.




Really? He spoke from the grave?!

Kary Mullis, the Nobel prize winning biochemist who invented the polymerase chain reaction (PCR) method, died on 07 August 2019 before the first case of covid was identified.



He is on record on stating EXACTLY what i said.


Maybe there is some confusion here: Can you please specify who you are talking about?The PCR is a method invented by Mullis that rapidly duplicates genetic material. In itself it does not do any 'test'. So I wonder if you are talking about someone other than Mullis and his polymerase methodology?

Pcdefender
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31 Aug 2024 1:51PM
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fangman said..

You might want to do your own research on Kary Mullis and what the polymerase chain reaction actually does.


Like you know more lol.

remery
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31 Aug 2024 3:02PM
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Pcdefender said..

He is on record stating EXACTLY what i said.


Are you talking about the comments he made over a quarter of a century ago regarding PCR and AIDS?

I remember Robby Naish saying in the 80's that a loop is not possible.

Pcdefender
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31 Aug 2024 3:23PM
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You lapped up the convid narrative better than anyone.

Remember they had us queuing 6 feet apart lol.

The masks - dirty pieces of material restricting our oxygen intake.

I am sure its woken up large numbers but judging by this forum there's still work to be done in the deprogramming department.

decrepit
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31 Aug 2024 3:33PM
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That's what's so frustrating about you Pete, you don't answer any questions!
Just smart alec come backs.

Pcdefender
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31 Aug 2024 3:47PM
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decrepit said..

Just smart alec come backs.





Nothing smart Alec about masks being dirty and restricting oxygen intake just plain and simple facts.

D3
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31 Aug 2024 4:09PM
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So masks can filter out O2 molecules but not viral pathogens?

fangman
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31 Aug 2024 4:13PM
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Pcdefender said..

fangman said..

You might want to do your own research on Kary Mullis and what the polymerase chain reaction actually does.



Like you know more lol.


Just in case you missed it:
Reposted Q -"Maybe there is some confusion here: Can you please specify who you are talking about?The PCR is a method invented by Mullis that rapidly duplicates genetic material. In itself it does not do any 'test'. So I wonder if you are talking about someone other than Mullis and his polymerase methodology?"

fangman
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31 Aug 2024 4:20PM
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Pcdefender said..


decrepit said..

Just smart alec come backs.







Nothing smart Alec about masks being dirty and restricting oxygen intake just plain and simple facts.



Because anecdotes are the gold standard for evidence. One of my oldest friends wears a mask 8-10 hours a day, and has done so for 30 years. He still competes in Ironman events at an international level. Imagine how awesome he would be if he wasn't so oxygen deprived!
lol

Pcdefender
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31 Aug 2024 4:22PM
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fangman said..

Pcdefender said..



decrepit said..

Just smart alec come backs.








Nothing smart Alec about masks being dirty and restricting oxygen intake just plain and simple facts.




Because anecdotes are the gold standard for evidence. One of my oldest friends wears a mask 8-10 hours a day, and has done so for 30 years. He still competes in Ironman events at an international level. Imagine how awesome he would be if he wasn't so oxygen deprived!
lol


So you are saying then they do not deprive the body of oxygen?

fangman
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31 Aug 2024 4:27PM
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Pcdefender said..

fangman said..


Pcdefender said..




decrepit said..

Just smart alec come backs.









Nothing smart Alec about masks being dirty and restricting oxygen intake just plain and simple facts.





Because anecdotes are the gold standard for evidence. One of my oldest friends wears a mask 8-10 hours a day, and has done so for 30 years. He still competes in Ironman events at an international level. Imagine how awesome he would be if he wasn't so oxygen deprived!
lol



So you are saying then they do not deprive the body of oxygen?


Do you a deal. You answer the questions put to you, and then I will answer yours.
Or are you just trolling for a reaction?

Pcdefender
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31 Aug 2024 4:42PM
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ok,so you point blank refuse to answer a yes or no question - i get it.

Pcdefender
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31 Aug 2024 4:45PM
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psychojoe
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31 Aug 2024 4:51PM
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I didn't click your link PCD. I'm pretty sure Kary said something to the effect of what you said. And that would have been true at the time. Of course now the science has evolved to a point where we can test a room full of people with the same virus and tell who had it first and who passed it on to who. It's amazing and quite fascinating.



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