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Poll - barnets shark control

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Created by Oldmate78 > 9 months ago, 29 Jan 2014
Toph
WA, 1876 posts
1 Feb 2014 12:26AM
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I've given my opinion on another thread so wasn't going to do so here. But if this has become the Seabreeze poll, then I'm for it. The only white pointers I want to see this weekend come in pairs on the beach.

Sorta over it at the moment though. I might go over to the windsurfing forum and find somebody to teach me how to windsurf.

Brunty
WA, 4 posts
1 Feb 2014 1:33AM
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GREEN
SHark culkl is a step in the right direction of protecting recreational ocean users until something better comes along what the hell do u do??
I like Sharks they protect people from getting hurt by Greenies.
Greenies should be the ones being culled
Especially the ones that love eating Meat or Fish as watching them being slaughtered is just hideous
I don't know what to say but lets get stick into the Sharks over 3m in Perth WA forever
That way these lil cute sharks can play water polo with the greenies because they know where to draw the line on everrrryyyytttghhhhiiiinnnnggggg
I would hope everyone around the world understands one thing ... Ron & Valerie Taylor Fxxked us all twice
Once when they went on a Shark Culling Escapade after getting munched as an act of revenge
Then Twice they were feeling guilty and saving the Sharks until they reach prehistoric dinosaur size now and just eat any **** going
HONESTLY humans are part of the ocean especially in Perth its water paradise
Most of the croc head greenies don't even go in the ocean
I hope they understand the problem is them .... too much conservation do goody good doism in Perth & WA has created a sharks paradise WA IS NOW A SHARK MACCA DRIVE THRU . CANT GET A FEED GET A HUMAN THEYRE NICE AND SLOW.
To think that Sharks are stupid and cant hunt try asking any Cray boat the sharks are like puppies following them around.
Barnett is at least showing some balls and doing something to keep a balance and try & save its human population & beautiful coastal recreational life
When a dog bites a human it gets smoked
When a shark bites a human ... how the fxxk does anyone expect to track it down
I surf my kids swim in the ocean my mates dive & fish
Its our ocean too
Something has to be done
Well done Barnett at least you have some balls
Stuff off Greenies and work on saving humans or something else.
The whole thing is balance
Right now sharks somehow have adopted the persona of a cute little puppy if you ask any idiot fighting for them
Theres 10 fold sharks around Perth and WA because of dickheads who think its smart to protect them instead of over fishing fish ???

GO BARNETT!!
LETS GO SURFING!!

kiterboy
2614 posts
1 Feb 2014 7:58AM
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DARTH said...
Woodo said..

DARTH said...
MDSXR6T said..

Didnt a bloke over east get killed by a tiger late last year?

A tiger shark is a tiger shark no matter what ocean, estuary or river they swim in. They will still attack a human being.


So just kill them all then , I didnt hear about anyone getting killed by a tiger shark last year. Do you have a link??

Cause that's what we're going to do. "Kill them all" Typical response from the anticull. Nice one Jb, I mean darth.


So far they have caught two small tiger sharks, Im sure they wont kill them all but Im sure Im not the only one to see this is a waste of tax payer money.

Above all my biggest issue with the drum lines is that it won't work and will in fact bring more sharks closer in that would normally stay offshore.


You didn't read jb's report did you doggiedarth?
The sharkies have to be in the vicinity of the baits to be attracted by them.
ie- the ones hooked are already close to shore.

Ian K
WA, 4169 posts
1 Feb 2014 12:23PM
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The policy is crazy on so many accounts. Environmental factors aside, you now have a 2.6 metre shark released off Cottesloe. Left to its own devices it would now possibly be cruising off a remote beach maybe south of Bunbury. But now it's pissed off, disorientated, low on oxygen, swimming in circles and folks have cancelled a weekend at the beach just because they know it's there. Not that a drowsy 2.6 metres shark would have much of a bite.. would it?
www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-01/shark-protests-wa-catch-and-kill-perth/5232480

"After the first capture, Surf Lifesaving WA used Twitter to warn swimmers at Cottesloe to exercise caution, as a 2.6 metre shark had been released one kilometre from shore.
This morning there were reports an undersized shark had been found dead on a shark drum line off Perth's Leighton Beach."

What sort of caution? You're either in the water or you're not.

Kneeling
WA, 166 posts
1 Feb 2014 1:10PM
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Just one quick question why don't these people who are so dead against drum lining and saving the sharks doing nothing about the rape and pillage going on in the north of the state by another country (indo fishing boats) or is that different to what's happening here?

rampage4
WA, 8 posts
1 Feb 2014 3:14PM
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for for for

PS: was RBL but looks like poor RBL has been banned for life

didnt see many protestors at southern beaches and got abused by a car load driving past the beach thinking i was a protestor

saw a little mako head at kite beach the other day, looks like the sharks are culling each other, wonder what the protestors think about that.

gonefishin
WA, 4 posts
1 Feb 2014 6:23PM
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4

dmitri
VIC, 1040 posts
1 Feb 2014 9:39PM
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for


doing it on behalf of my son's godfather actually. he asked me.
he lives in quinns rock, wa and loves the ocean.

rampage4
WA, 8 posts
1 Feb 2014 10:18PM
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how many people in wa a few thousand at cott against the Drums pretty sad effort really, i love the eastern staters why dont they campaign against their own drums, much easier to campaign against ours. ours are only going to be there a few months of year too unlike theirs which work hard all the time

anyway good work usually a couple of thousand at cott anyway.

barnett doesn't care about the protest and cant back down now because of it.

as for the greenies about to attach themselves to the fishing boat- do you not think that barnett can guard his own boats with his own police force

good luck.

sometimes i think that some peoples only value add statement to the world is i'm a shark protestor

mikehunt
WA, 12 posts
1 Feb 2014 10:25PM
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on the fence, i dont like seeing people get eaten but the measures this government has taken are ridiculous and a waste of money , i dont think it will work at all and more attacks will occur

fatwa
TAS, 107 posts
2 Feb 2014 9:47AM
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For.
And if the protesters want to get serious, they'd chain themselves to the drum lines, not the boats.

PaddlePig
WA, 421 posts
2 Feb 2014 3:02PM
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Just to let all the pro cull people know, there are groups on face book that could do with the support. I've thrown myself behind them but I think if you have access to facebook you should too. Can't remember what they're called but one is SOS save out surfers or something like that. Just search pro cull. One guy has pictures on his boat opposing the rally with writing on surfboards . Help these guys out with a fantastic cause

PackraT
29 posts
2 Feb 2014 3:27PM
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Against. I'm yet to be convinced there's an increased risk of shark attack recently and so are most scientists.

www.sbs.com.au/news/wa-shark-frenzy-how-to-stop-a-runaway-train

Indeed, arguments by scientists pointing at no evidence of increased attacks or rising shark numbers or shifting behavior, and discussing possible effective actions and alternatives to culling have been thoroughly reported.



theconversation.com/shark-bite-statistics-can-lie-and-the-result-is-bad-policy-21789
The late shark biologist Aiden Martin noticed that shark bites follow the same pattern. "They can seem to occur in clusters... but the likelihood of any one individual being attacked by a shark at a given time and place and the average interval between any two attacks remains constant" he wrote.[/i]


Plus, there's other options (if you're convinced we need to take action).

theconversation.com/towing-sharks-out-to-sea-will-let-us-protect-people-and-sharks-22183
Well, there is: you just tow big sharks out to sea and let them go. And unlike the WA government's cull policy, this idea is actually backed up by scientific evidence.

The idea has already been tried in Brazil, where it reduced shark incidents by 97% with minimal environmental impact. By partnering with scientists, the government has reduced the risk to ocean users without resorting to killing threatened species.


Also, I don't think the collateral damage on the environment is worth it.

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
2 Feb 2014 3:29PM
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PaddlePig said..

Just to let all the pro cull people know, there are groups on face book that could do with the support. I've thrown myself behind them but I think if you have access to facebook you should too. Can't remember what they're called but one is SOS save out surfers or something like that. Just search pro cull. One guy has pictures on his boat opposing the rally with writing on surfboards . Help these guys out with a fantastic cause


Haha we saw them and everyone cheered them. You couldn't read their signs and everyone thought they were in support

Yeah a lot of you would like the Cull our sharks page too. That ones full of hate and anger

Oldmate78
172 posts
2 Feb 2014 3:34PM
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F me?? How hard can it be....I started this thread as a poll...not another 20 pages of drivel...

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
2 Feb 2014 3:38PM
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F me?? How hard can it be....I started this thread as a poll...not another 20 pages of drivel...


Its gone mate you won..

WC Canvas
WA, 55 posts
2 Feb 2014 6:57PM
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5000 protesters on Cott Beach- that is way not enough to prove we should not cull (1.2 million people in W.A) Just saying. All the Beret wearing, Prius driving, Soy Chai latte drinking, Mung bean eating, save the everything Eco Nazi's. We went through all this a few years ago with the live sheep/cattle export protests in Freo. Whats happening with that? We are still doing live export. Just stop now, Shark tagging research and control of a few problem animals is already happening and will continue to happen. Go and make some hummus falafel and have a sing song around the camp fire some place else.

Sorry oldmate78 I got carried away - my poll is FOR

Oldmate78
172 posts
2 Feb 2014 7:31PM
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^^^^^dude you had me pissing my self laughing with the first half of that post!
The funny thing is although we get called pro cullers,,,I don't think any of us would support a full on cull. Mitigation strategy yes but not a cull. We all love the ocean. I was a donating member of the wilderness society for many years so I guess in a sense I am a chai latte drinking Mung bean eater as well. It's just that I don't consider this to be a cull. And I think all the propaganda is trying to paint it as one.
Woops broke my own rule for this thread!

Bonominator
VIC, 5477 posts
3 Feb 2014 12:23PM
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Ian K said..

The policy is crazy on so many accounts. Environmental factors aside, you now have a 2.6 metre shark released off Cottesloe. Left to its own devices it would now possibly be cruising off a remote beach maybe south of Bunbury. But now it's pissed off, disorientated, low on oxygen, swimming in circles and folks have cancelled a weekend at the beach just because they know it's there. Not that a drowsy 2.6 metres shark would have much of a bite.. would it?
www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-01/shark-protests-wa-catch-and-kill-perth/5232480

"After the first capture, Surf Lifesaving WA used Twitter to warn swimmers at Cottesloe to exercise caution, as a 2.6 metre shark had been released one kilometre from shore.
This morning there were reports an undersized shark had been found dead on a shark drum line off Perth's Leighton Beach."

What sort of caution? You're either in the water or you're not.


Yes crazy, but don't waste your breath lecturing some hard head west coast surfers and conservatives about how to respect nature - it's not in their nature.

Cue red thumbs. I bet I can go even redder than you.

Bonominator
VIC, 5477 posts
3 Feb 2014 12:28PM
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PaddlePig said..

Just to let all the pro cull people know, there are groups on face book that could do with the support. I've thrown myself behind them but I think if you have access to facebook you should too. Can't remember what they're called but one is SOS save out surfers or something like that. Just search pro cull. One guy has pictures on his boat opposing the rally with writing on surfboards . Help these guys out with a fantastic cause


It's not compulsory to surf in places inhabited by sharks when the water is grey and filmy. That's the best way to avoid being munched. The best way to minimise the risk, is don't surf there or just HTFU.

DARTH
WA, 3028 posts
3 Feb 2014 9:33AM
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kiterboy said..

DARTH said...
Woodo said..

DARTH said...
MDSXR6T said..

Didnt a bloke over east get killed by a tiger late last year?

A tiger shark is a tiger shark no matter what ocean, estuary or river they swim in. They will still attack a human being.


So just kill them all then , I didnt hear about anyone getting killed by a tiger shark last year. Do you have a link??

Cause that's what we're going to do. "Kill them all" Typical response from the anticull. Nice one Jb, I mean darth.


So far they have caught two small tiger sharks, Im sure they wont kill them all but Im sure Im not the only one to see this is a waste of tax payer money.

Above all my biggest issue with the drum lines is that it won't work and will in fact bring more sharks closer in that would normally stay offshore.


You didn't read jb's report did you doggiedarth?
The sharkies have to be in the vicinity of the baits to be attracted by them.
ie- the ones hooked are already close to shore.


Yes the undersize non gws

Oldmate78
172 posts
3 Feb 2014 10:21AM
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Bonominator said...
PaddlePig said..

Just to let all the pro cull people know, there are groups on face book that could do with the support. I've thrown myself behind them but I think if you have access to facebook you should too. Can't remember what they're called but one is SOS save out surfers or something like that. Just search pro cull. One guy has pictures on his boat opposing the rally with writing on surfboards . Help these guys out with a fantastic cause


It's not compulsory to surf in places inhabited by sharks when the water is grey and filmy. That's the best way to avoid being munched. The best way to minimise the risk, is don't surf there or just HTFU.

Not true...a number of recent WA attacks have been on beach breaks with clear water in the middle of the day.

DARTH
WA, 3028 posts
3 Feb 2014 10:26AM
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Oldmate78 said..

Bonominator said...
PaddlePig said..

Just to let all the pro cull people know, there are groups on face book that could do with the support. I've thrown myself behind them but I think if you have access to facebook you should too. Can't remember what they're called but one is SOS save out surfers or something like that. Just search pro cull. One guy has pictures on his boat opposing the rally with writing on surfboards . Help these guys out with a fantastic cause


It's not compulsory to surf in places inhabited by sharks when the water is grey and filmy. That's the best way to avoid being munched. The best way to minimise the risk, is don't surf there or just HTFU.

Not true...a number of recent WA attacks have been on beach breaks with clear water in the middle of the day.


Also not true, most were in the morning before 9am and at reef breaks, Wedge was the only beach break.................

lortap
WA, 57 posts
3 Feb 2014 11:52AM
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whippingboy
WA, 1104 posts
3 Feb 2014 3:14PM
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Yay for seabreeze,,
Now a right wing rabble rousing site

Slack
WA, 685 posts
3 Feb 2014 8:08PM
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pweedas
WA, 4642 posts
4 Feb 2014 12:09AM
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results up to here;-
Page one ..........,12 for : 12 against
Page two ........., 22 for : 2 against
Page three ,....... 15 for : 1 against.
Page four, ,. . . . .. 2 for: 1 against
Page 5 to here. . . 9 for : 1 against

plus one on the fence ?
plus 1 vote to HTFU, but I didn't count that either way.
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Total ..... . . . . . . 60 for : 17 against, 1 on fence, and 1 to HTFU

approaching close to four out of five agree with the cull. 22% are against.

Bonominator
VIC, 5477 posts
4 Feb 2014 11:19AM
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I guess trying to HTFU is for some people, just too hard to do.

So that's THTHTFU.

lurch
WA, 312 posts
4 Feb 2014 10:05AM
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DARTH said..

Oldmate78 said..

Bonominator said...
PaddlePig said..

Just to let all the pro cull people know, there are groups on face book that could do with the support. I've thrown myself behind them but I think if you have access to facebook you should too. Can't remember what they're called but one is SOS save out surfers or something like that. Just search pro cull. One guy has pictures on his boat opposing the rally with writing on surfboards . Help these guys out with a fantastic cause


It's not compulsory to surf in places inhabited by sharks when the water is grey and filmy. That's the best way to avoid being munched. The best way to minimise the risk, is don't surf there or just HTFU.

Not true...a number of recent WA attacks have been on beach breaks with clear water in the middle of the day.


Also not true, most were in the morning before 9am and at reef breaks, Wedge was the only beach break.................


Just for your info
Wedge 9am Saturday morning, Dolphins is reef and sand.
Umbies 930 am Saturday morning also reef and sand.
Both days the swell was max 2 foot in 4 foot of water.

DARTH
WA, 3028 posts
4 Feb 2014 10:09AM
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lurch said..

DARTH said..

Oldmate78 said..

Bonominator said...
PaddlePig said..

Just to let all the pro cull people know, there are groups on face book that could do with the support. I've thrown myself behind them but I think if you have access to facebook you should too. Can't remember what they're called but one is SOS save out surfers or something like that. Just search pro cull. One guy has pictures on his boat opposing the rally with writing on surfboards . Help these guys out with a fantastic cause


It's not compulsory to surf in places inhabited by sharks when the water is grey and filmy. That's the best way to avoid being munched. The best way to minimise the risk, is don't surf there or just HTFU.

Not true...a number of recent WA attacks have been on beach breaks with clear water in the middle of the day.


Also not true, most were in the morning before 9am and at reef breaks, Wedge was the only beach break.................


Just for your info
Wedge 9am Saturday morning, Dolphins is reef and sand.
Umbies 930 am Saturday morning also reef and sand.
Both days the swell was max 2 foot in 4 foot of water.


So they wernt in the middle of the day, Dolphins where you take off from is sand, the reef is way out the back.

Why are you trying to make things sound different to what they are?? Strange thing this shark argument



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