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The is a chapter where he asks what would have happened if an airline regulator had introduced compulsory locks on plane cockpits. What wouldn't have happened is 9/11.
It really doesn't matter whether you believe some crusty sand _______ decided to precisely collapse two over insured worthless buildings on a public holiday for the purpose of maximum death, or if you believe it was the nefarious act of others, one thing is for sure,if you believe this to be true you've never heard of a locksmith.
By that argument, why would anyone ever lock a door anywhere?
Indeed, a skilled, well prepared and equipped attacker could make short work of such a lock to access the cockpit.
But they'd have to use tools that could pass basic metal detector, have a period of attacking the lock without discovery or alerting the occupants. And that becomes even harder if there is a simple bolt only on the interior of the door.
Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..psychojoe said..remery
The is a chapter where he asks what would have happened if an airline regulator had introduced compulsory locks on plane cockpits. What wouldn't have happened is 9/11.
It really doesn't matter whether you believe some crusty sand _______ decided to precisely collapse two over insured worthless buildings on a public holiday for the purpose of maximum death, or if you believe it was the nefarious act of others, one thing is for sure,if you believe this to be true you've never heard of a locksmith.
Is this where conspiracy theories start? Lack of comprehension? Lack of noticing details?
It wasn't a public holiday. People were at work there.
The attackers would have been very surprised that the buildings collapsed. No one thought that they would, until they did. If they had, people would have been told to evacuate immediately, but they weren't.
Oh yeah, that's some good Kool aid.
Not that I care since I'm not a fan of conspiracy theories, but if the building were near capacity on the day the toll would've risen ten fold.
And when I'm dying to fly a plane into a building for maximum destruction I always bank it neatly for impact to minimise, wait I mean maximise damage to the surrounding buildings.
Select to expand quoteD3 said..psychojoe said..remery
The is a chapter where he asks what would have happened if an airline regulator had introduced compulsory locks on plane cockpits. What wouldn't have happened is 9/11.
It really doesn't matter whether you believe some crusty sand _______ decided to precisely collapse two over insured worthless buildings on a public holiday for the purpose of maximum death, or if you believe it was the nefarious act of others, one thing is for sure,if you believe this to be true you've never heard of a locksmith.
By that argument, why would anyone ever lock a door anywhere?
Indeed, a skilled, well prepared and equipped attacker could make short work of such a lock to access the cockpit.
But they'd have to use tools that could pass basic metal detector, have a period of attacking the lock without discovery or alerting the occupants. And that becomes even harder if there is a simple bolt only on the interior of the door.
Ooh we're getting somewhere here. Now let's fit all cockpits with toilets because having the captain and first officer use the flight deck toilets mid flight is far too risky.
Select to expand quotepsychojoe said..D3 said..psychojoe said..remery
The is a chapter where he asks what would have happened if an airline regulator had introduced compulsory locks on plane cockpits. What wouldn't have happened is 9/11.
It really doesn't matter whether you believe some crusty sand _______ decided to precisely collapse two over insured worthless buildings on a public holiday for the purpose of maximum death, or if you believe it was the nefarious act of others, one thing is for sure,if you believe this to be true you've never heard of a locksmith.
By that argument, why would anyone ever lock a door anywhere?
Indeed, a skilled, well prepared and equipped attacker could make short work of such a lock to access the cockpit.
But they'd have to use tools that could pass basic metal detector, have a period of attacking the lock without discovery or alerting the occupants. And that becomes even harder if there is a simple bolt only on the interior of the door.
Ooh we're getting somewhere here. Now let's fit all cockpits with toilets because having the captain and first officer use the flight deck toilets mid flight is far too risky.
I've got a better idea, you brainstorm all the potential ways to hijack an aeroplane and come up with solutions, you can then advise the aviation industry.
Or you could start a new thread
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Indeed, a skilled, well prepared and equipped attacker could make short work of such a lock to access the cockpit.
But they'd have to use tools that could pass basic metal detector, have a period of attacking the lock without discovery or alerting the occupants. And that becomes even harder if there is a simple bolt only on the interior of the door.
avalon.law.yale.edu/sept11/faa_001.asp
"Concurrent with the rule, the FAA is also issuing a Special Federal Aviation Regulation (SFAR) to require operators to install temporary internal locking devices within 45 days on all passenger airplanes and cargo airplanes that have cockpit doors. Beginning on Oct. 17, the FAA issued a series of SFARs that authorized short-term door reinforcement by providing airlines and cargo operators with temporary relief from certain FAA standards. The major U.S. airlines voluntarily installed short-term fixes to doors on 4,000 aircraft in 32 days. The SFAR stated that a long-term fix that meets FAA requirements must be installed within 18 months.
Fortifying cockpit doors is a critical part of assuring the safety and security of our aviation system," said U.S. Transportation Secretary Norman Y. Mineta. "As we move forward, the Department of Transportation will continue to meet the challenges of protecting our nation's travelers and transportation infrastructure."
As announced by the President on Sept. 28, the FAA will administer a federal grant program to help the U.S. airline and cargo industry finance aircraft modifications to fortify cockpit doors, alert the cockpit crew to activity in the cabin and ensure continuous operation of the aircraft transponder. Funding may be provided through grants or cost sharing arrangements. The President requested $300 million from Congress to help fund these initiatives. Congress appropriated $100 million. Once the designs are ready and approved by the FAA, the agency believes that airlines will have an opportunity to install the doors during routine maintenance checks. The purchase and installation cost of an enhanced cockpit door is estimated at between $12,000 and $17,000. The total cost to airlines is estimated to cost between $92.3 million and $120.7 million over a 10-year period, including increased fuel consumption costs resulting from heavier doors."
In other new, the WHO has declared the end of Public Health Emergency of International Concern.
What this means
The WHO Emergency Committee believes three things:
1- COVID-19 is not unusual and unexpected.
2- Cross-border transmission can't (and won't) be stopped.
3- COVID-19 does not require a coordinated international response.
Reckon there'll be people who say this means that we should now just treat it as a cold.Even though this doesn't mean Covid 19 is gone or that we have exited the Pandemic period of this virus, people will be saying we should 'go back to pre-covid times and policies ', despite the fact we have an additional respiratory virus added to the list of things trying to kill us
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Or you could start a new thread
Welcome to Seabreeze. We don't do that here.
Select to expand quotepsychojoe said..FormulaNova said..psychojoe said..remery
The is a chapter where he asks what would have happened if an airline regulator had introduced compulsory locks on plane cockpits. What wouldn't have happened is 9/11.
It really doesn't matter whether you believe some crusty sand _______ decided to precisely collapse two over insured worthless buildings on a public holiday for the purpose of maximum death, or if you believe it was the nefarious act of others, one thing is for sure,if you believe this to be true you've never heard of a locksmith.
Is this where conspiracy theories start? Lack of comprehension? Lack of noticing details?
It wasn't a public holiday. People were at work there.
The attackers would have been very surprised that the buildings collapsed. No one thought that they would, until they did. If they had, people would have been told to evacuate immediately, but they weren't.
Oh yeah, that's some good Kool aid.
Not that I care since I'm not a fan of conspiracy theories, but if the building were near capacity on the day the toll would've risen ten fold.
And when I'm dying to fly a plane into a building for maximum destruction I always bank it neatly for impact to minimise, wait I mean maximise damage to the surrounding buildings.
When I am flying a plane at 500 mph at a building, I think I am lucky to hit it. I have had far too much practice playing Galaga, but when it comes down to it, aiming something at that speed with a decent amount of inertia, at something relatively narrow, you don't have too many choices about the placement of the plane.
Maybe you can reach out to one of your fellow skeptics on this forum. By now they would have had an investigation into the WTC attacks and solved the mystery. I mean, how unlikely is it that extremists that learnt how to fly planes in simulators could do this?
Have any of you people been across big projects? They are hard to manage or even be part of and get things synced up. Imagine the effort required for any of these conspiracies!
Select to expand quotepsychojoe said..D3 said..
Or you could start a new thread
Welcome to Seabreeze. We don't do that here.
Something I agree with you on!
Time to end the thread then? Talking about 9-11 ? Or do I have to take my pain and suffering out in domestic terrorism form?
Only took 18 months of suffering for the fu ktards to admit my auto immune disease was because of there misinformation.
How much will it pay? If I were to die tomorrow with my current three dependents. My partner who is the mother of my 6 month old girl and my mother who is currently in the hospital due to mental health illnesses. These illnesses associated with her being fear mongered into telling me to get vaccinated. She's blaming herself for her son being poisoned.They would get a maximum payout of 600k. Not tooting my own horn but this is what I'd get in 2.5 years easily If I was still fit n healthy. If I had no dependants Service Australia would pay out a maximum of 80k.
So formulanomates etc next time you keep promoting these ineffective medical procedures just remember your life's worthless.
80k for poisoning and then killing a fellow human being is all your eff in worth. AT THE MOST.
Putting a junkie kid on centrelink cost the taxpayer more then 2.5 times that per annum.
heres a link to all those who have common sense and a basic understanding of logic.
Have a listen and try prevent this from ever happening again. 
open.spotify.com/episode/43D9PMFx0j9BdbpcS9meBY?si=UFSOFXUsTO-sJt_R-q3LGA
Select to expand quoteFlying Dutchman said..
It's easy to talk **** and hide behind an anonymous username that's why it matters.
This might be him
Well, I don't think I'm one of the unlucky ones. Uninfected so far and I've had my 5th jab last week. I thought it might give me some kind of reaction because I felt very chilled a few hours after the 4th shot on Bastille Day last year.
This time it went the opposite way, I felt hot and sweaty a few hours later.
But I know why both reactions occurred. The 4th shot was on a cold day and I couldn't be bothered to turn on the heater until the sun went down. Last week I was planning to go out, but my jumper was still a bit damp from the wash. I thought it would dry quickly enough just by wearing it, but that didn't seem to be working, so I took it off and hung it over the passenger seat in the car and dried it using the car heater. 30 minutes at 40C+ did the trick and saved me reporting a vaccine injury
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Well, I don't think I'm one of the unlucky ones. Uninfected so far and I've had my 5th jab last week. I thought it might give me some kind of reaction because I felt very chilled a few hours after the 4th shot on Bastille Day last year.
This time it went the opposite way, I felt hot and sweaty a few hours later.
But I know why both reactions occurred. The 4th shot was on a cold day and I couldn't be bothered to turn on the heater until the sun went down. Last week I was planning to go out, but my jumper was still a bit damp from the wash. I thought it would dry quickly enough just by wearing it, but that didn't seem to be working, so I took it off and hung it over the passenger seat in the car and dried it using the car heater. 30 minutes at 40C+ did the trick and saved me reporting a vaccine injury
Wow! How insulting.
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How much will it pay? If I were to die tomorrow with my current three dependents. ... .They would get a maximum payout of 600k. Not tooting my own horn but this is what I'd get in 2.5 years easily If I was still fit n healthy. If I had no dependants Service Australia would pay out a maximum of 80k.
You would get $600k after tax in 2 and a half years if you were working? Sh!t, I need to become a carpenter! That's an excellent amount of money. I have never earned that amount of money.
The $80k is pretty poor though. Very disappointing.
Are they now providing assistance to you, aside from what they would payout if you died? What amounts are they providing for that? Hopefully not as insulting as $80k.Select to expand quote
So formulanomates etc next time you keep promoting these ineffective medical procedures just remember your life's worthless.
80k for poisoning and then killing a fellow human being is all your eff in worth. AT THE MOST.
Putting a junkie kid on centrelink cost the taxpayer more then 2.5 times that per annum.
I feel special. You have singled me out and given me my own nickname and all. Everyone else gets ignored and grouped into 'etc'. It's okay.
If you have followed the discusson on the Spanish Flu, consider the chance that you could have just died in a pandemic. There would be no discussion on what could have been or should have been. I know you have said that you would prefer to be dead, but no, you will get out of this and life will go on. The people that died from Covid in this pandemic had no choice and aren't around to talk about it.
"heres a link to all those who have common sense and a basic understanding of logic" - I am not sure that's true but I will reserve my judgement until I get a chance to listen to it. Often these discussions are using logic but the presumptions are not necessarily correct.
Select to expand quotehitch_hiker said..Flying Dutchman said..
It's easy to talk **** and hide behind an anonymous username that's why it matters.
This might be him
It might be, but the mask makes it hard for proper ID
Select to expand quoteok said..
How much will it pay? If I were to die tomorrow with my current three dependents. My partner who is the mother of my 6 month old girl and my mother who is currently in the hospital due to mental health illnesses. These illnesses associated with her being fear mongered into telling me to get vaccinated. She's blaming herself for her son being poisoned.They would get a maximum payout of 600k. Not tooting my own horn but this is what I'd get in 2.5 years easily If I was still fit n healthy.
Maybe I misunderstood this? This seems to suggest that they will pay you loss of earnings and other costs:
www.marsdens.net.au/services/injury-compensation-law/covid-19-vaccine-scheme/#:~:text=There%20is%20no%20overall%20cap,pain%20and%20suffering%2C%20is%20%24693%2C500.00.
But they are lawyers, so no doubt are suggesting the most optimal result.
Does this mean they will pay you loss of earnings, in your case 600k/2.5 each year? $240k? Even if they then taxed that, it is a large amount.
The link also seems to suggest that they will payout $664K in the case of a death (no dependents), and an additional amount per dependent under 21yo of 13 to 61k. It seems a bit different to your figures. Is that the difference between getting a lawyer to do it or is it lawyer optimism? The linked amounts make more sense as why should you get $600k if you have children and only $80k if you don't?
My brothers brother in law got myocarditis but took a $20k government payout because he couldn't work anymore and needed the money. Ruined his life and lost his **** job at Big W anyway. He is struggling to support his young children and wife. I think by him accepting the crappy 20k now makes the case settled and he can't sue for more if he dies or his condition worsens.
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My brothers brother in law got myocarditis but took a $20k government payout because he couldn't work anymore and needed the money. Ruined his life and lost his **** job at Big W anyway. He is struggling to support his young children and wife. I think by him accepting the crappy 20k now makes the case settled and he can't sue for more if he dies or his condition worsens.
I know a big woman who slipped on a grape in a supermarket and got more than twenty grand. Because she's obese her medical bills were many thousands but how on earth does that even come close to forced disability by government, this doesn't feel like justice.
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In other new, the WHO has declared the end of Public Health Emergency of International Concern.
What this means
The WHO Emergency Committee believes three things:
1- COVID-19 is not unusual and unexpected.
2- Cross-border transmission can't (and won't) be stopped.
3- COVID-19 does not require a coordinated international response.
Reckon there'll be people who say this means that we should now just treat it as a cold.Even though this doesn't mean Covid 19 is gone or that we have exited the Pandemic period of this virus, people will be saying we should 'go back to pre-covid times and policies ', despite the fact we have an additional respiratory virus added to the list of things trying to kill us
NSW currently has 1,292 people in hospital with COVID, 31 in ICU, 53 dead over the past week.
Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..ok said..
How much will it pay? If I were to die tomorrow with my current three dependents. My partner who is the mother of my 6 month old girl and my mother who is currently in the hospital due to mental health illnesses. These illnesses associated with her being fear mongered into telling me to get vaccinated. She's blaming herself for her son being poisoned.They would get a maximum payout of 600k. Not tooting my own horn but this is what I'd get in 2.5 years easily If I was still fit n healthy.
Maybe I misunderstood this? This seems to suggest that they will pay you loss of earnings and other costs:
www.marsdens.net.au/services/injury-compensation-law/covid-19-vaccine-scheme/#:~:text=There%20is%20no%20overall%20cap,pain%20and%20suffering%2C%20is%20%24693%2C500.00.
But they are lawyers, so no doubt are suggesting the most optimal result.
Does this mean they will pay you loss of earnings, in your case 600k/2.5 each year? $240k? Even if they then taxed that, it is a large amount.
The link also seems to suggest that they will payout $664K in the case of a death (no dependents), and an additional amount per dependent under 21yo of 13 to 61k. It seems a bit different to your figures. Is that the difference between getting a lawyer to do it or is it lawyer optimism? The linked amounts make more sense as why should you get $600k if you have children and only $80k if you don't?
Licensed carpenter running commercial business. It's not hard to make decent money when your fit fast and have a good crew of contractors.
You aren't allowed to engage a lawyer for the service Australia compensation which is why so many vaccine injured are taking it to a class action.
Im unsure what planet you're from but the one I'm from poisoning people for profit isn't acceptable. I've been told I have PERMANENT heart damage, risk of early death and they want to offer a few hundred to keep me quiet. Don't know what price you put on your existence but 600k isn't it. Can't even buy a 1 bedroom unit to house my family whilst I'm eaten by worms for 600k.
Select to expand quoteremery said..D3 said..
In other new, the WHO has declared the end of Public Health Emergency of International Concern.
What this means
The WHO Emergency Committee believes three things:
1- COVID-19 is not unusual and unexpected.
2- Cross-border transmission can't (and won't) be stopped.
3- COVID-19 does not require a coordinated international response.
Reckon there'll be people who say this means that we should now just treat it as a cold.Even though this doesn't mean Covid 19 is gone or that we have exited the Pandemic period of this virus, people will be saying we should 'go back to pre-covid times and policies ', despite the fact we have an additional respiratory virus added to the list of things trying to kill us
NSW currently has 1,292 people in hospital with COVID, 31 in ICU, 53 dead over the past week.
So tax payers spent all this money on vaccines etc for them to workk orrr ??
Select to expand quoteok said..remery said..D3 said..
In other new, the WHO has declared the end of Public Health Emergency of International Concern.
What this means
The WHO Emergency Committee believes three things:
1- COVID-19 is not unusual and unexpected.
2- Cross-border transmission can't (and won't) be stopped.
3- COVID-19 does not require a coordinated international response.
Reckon there'll be people who say this means that we should now just treat it as a cold.Even though this doesn't mean Covid 19 is gone or that we have exited the Pandemic period of this virus, people will be saying we should 'go back to pre-covid times and policies ', despite the fact we have an additional respiratory virus added to the list of things trying to kill us
NSW currently has 1,292 people in hospital with COVID, 31 in ICU, 53 dead over the past week.
So tax payers spent all this money on vaccines etc for them to workk orrr ??
For vaccines to work, people actually have receive the vaccine.
Less than 1/3 of population has had 4th dose (dose for this winter respiratory illness season)
About 2/3 population has had 3rd dose, so large numbers of the population haven't had the newest, polyvalent versions.
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Less than 1/3 of population has had 4th dose (dose for this winter respiratory illness season)
About 2/3 population has had 3rd dose, so large numbers of the population haven't had the newest, polyvalent versions.
Wonder why 2/3 of the public aren't keen on their 4th jab? They are safe & effective aren't they? What do they have to lose?
Pre-COVID there was about 1.8 million cases of Myocarditis each year worldwide. I wonder how they now determine which cases are caused by the vaccine and which are just bad luck/genes? Are the tax payers funding compensation for people who were going to get Myocarditis regardless of vaccination?
www.mdpi.com/2077-0383/10/4/603
Select to expand quoteFlying Dutchman said..D3 said..
Less than 1/3 of population has had 4th dose (dose for this winter respiratory illness season)
About 2/3 population has had 3rd dose, so large numbers of the population haven't had the newest, polyvalent versions.
Wonder why 2/3 of the public aren't keen on their 4th jab? They are safe & effective aren't they? What do they have to lose?
It's pretty obvious, but maybe not to you.
For a lot of people they saw the risk and the benefit and weighed it up. It has now changed with Omicron and its variants. For the original strain and Delta people would have seen the risk as somewhat higher.
I have had my 4th and it has been more than 6 months now, and almost 6 months since I actually had Covid.
I think I have a reasonable grasp on the science and appreciate that the strains are going to keep changing and the vaccine is always going to lag behind, pretty much like the flu vaccinations.
I am not sure if I am going to get my 5th. It doesn't look likely. But despite some on here saying that its 'safe and effective', we have all heard reports of people suffering adverse reactions. I wonder whether its likely to have an adverse reaction at all if you haven't already had one, but is the risk now worth it?
It sounds like you treat it as a religion; where you either hate vaccines or love them. I think you might be surprised that most people sit somewhere inbetween. Probably more negative sentiment due to social media influences though.
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Pre-COVID there was about 1.8 million cases of Myocarditis each year worldwide. I wonder how they now determine which cases are caused by the vaccine and which are just bad luck/genes? Are the tax payers funding compensation for people who were going to get Myocarditis regardless of vaccination?
www.mdpi.com/2077-0383/10/4/603
You have to have supporting information from your doctor/doctors to make a c;laim, so I am sure there has to be a significant link in order to get your claim to be successful.
I googled 'Covid and autoimmune' and there seems to be a few articles on the topic. Makes you wonder if the response to the actual virus is the same thing that some people are seeing in the vaccination?
I wonder how many 'anti-vaxxers' are cluttering up this compensation scheme by saying they had an adverse reaction when it was something insignificant? It seems 'they' seem to always know of someone personally that had a reaction yet the rest of us don't seem to know more than 'a friend of a friend'.
It doesn't take too much to see that the more distant you are from 'a friend' to see that the same adverse outcome could be reported as more common than it is.
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I wonder how many 'anti-vaxxers' are cluttering up this compensation scheme by saying they had an adverse reaction when it was something insignificant? It seems 'they' seem to always know of someone personally that had a reaction yet the rest of us don't seem to know more than 'a friend of a friend'.
Imagine having to deal with and listen to these people on a daily basis, trying to figure out if they are for real or just misguided losers, with a chip on their shoulder.
Oh, hang on.... that's what I'm doing!
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I am not sure if I am going to get my 5th. It doesn't look likely.
Damn who would have though FN would turn into an Anti-Vaxxer.
Select to expand quoteFlying Dutchman said..FormulaNova said..
I am not sure if I am going to get my 5th. It doesn't look likely.
Damn who would have though FN would turn into an Anti-Vaxxer.
Ahh, I should have known that the typical lack pf comprehension and noticing detail would have an anti-vaxxer thinking I had changed teams.
But most people are the same. They look at the risk and the benefit. Others just think 'someone out there' wants to do them harm with everything and immediately say no.
But to show that I have changed and agree with youse I am actually wearing aluminium foil on my head. Can't you see it in my photo? I wanted 'tinfoil' but I think we are being lied to when they say you can't get it or its the same thing. I think this 'aluminium' is actually amplifying my thoughts so that they can hear them.
I personally know someone that was abducted by aliens and the aliens told them the truth about 9/11 and chemtrails, and he/she agrees with me that depopulation is on the agenda and the first port of call is here.
Select to expand quoteFlying Dutchman said..D3 said..
Less than 1/3 of population has had 4th dose (dose for this winter respiratory illness season)
About 2/3 population has had 3rd dose, so large numbers of the population haven't had the newest, polyvalent versions.
Wonder why 2/3 of the public aren't keen on their 4th jab? They are safe & effective aren't they? What do they have to lose?
As a nation, we're pretty terrible at choosing to protect ourselves with vaccines.
Even the really effective childhood ones, with measles vaccination rates dropping below herd immunity thresholds occasionally, requiring the whole 'no jab, no play' policy to get numbers back up.
Let alone Flu vaccines.
Add to that baseline:
- People equating a vaccine with less than 100% efficacy with Zero efficacy
- vocal Covid minimisers, who keep claiming that low risk of death equals Zero Risk at all to people under 60
- Vocal groups campaigning that vaccines are more dangerous than the disease
-People claiming that Covid is over so therefore no precautions need to be taken.
-Vocal groups and individuals shaming people who do take precautions against Covid
Just to list a few reasons
