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Created by ok > 9 months ago, 9 Apr 2023
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Flying Dutchman
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25 Apr 2023 11:15PM
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psychojoe said..
Air is mostly argon, which is super important, because carbon dioxide needs to be pushed out of the body by an inert gas.

"Nitrogen is the most abundant gas. It makes up 78.1% of air composition. Second is 'Oxygen' at 20.9%. Third most abundant gas is 'Argon' at 0.9%, and last among the four is 'Carbon Dioxide' at 0.03%."

psychojoe
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26 Apr 2023 1:02PM
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psychojoe said..
Air is mostly argon, which is super important, because carbon dioxide needs to be pushed out of the body by an inert gas.


"Nitrogen is the most abundant gas. It makes up 78.1% of air composition. Second is 'Oxygen' at 20.9%. Third most abundant gas is 'Argon' at 0.9%, and last among the four is 'Carbon Dioxide' at 0.03%."


Damn. I gotta stop letting chatGPT write all my stuff for me

japie
NSW, 7145 posts
26 Apr 2023 8:06PM
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ok
NSW, 1089 posts
26 Apr 2023 10:00PM
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www.instagram.com/p/CrfhUGau_B-/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
I'll just leave this link here for those still in denial and think that the jabs are "SAFE AND EFFECTIVE"

safe : protected from or not exposed to danger or risk; not likely to be harmed or lost.

effective : successful in producing a desired or intended result.

Flying Dutchman
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26 Apr 2023 8:53PM
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ok said..
www.instagram.com/p/CrfhUGau_B-/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
I'll just leave this link here for those still in denial and think that the jabs are "SAFE AND EFFECTIVE"

safe : protected from or not exposed to danger or risk; not likely to be harmed or lost.

effective : successful in producing a desired or intended result.


Thanks for sharing that OK. Will be interesting to see if the class action gets anywhere.

Pyschojoe, I was wondering something. Did you say you were involved in a trial for the Covid vaccine but got injured?

remery
WA, 3709 posts
26 Apr 2023 9:48PM
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Is that the guy who shot 40,000 elephants in a failed attempt to reduce desertification?

japie
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27 Apr 2023 9:32AM
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japie said..




Is that the guy who shot 40,000 elephants in a failed attempt to reduce desertification?


I don't think so.

What I do know is that when I was in Tanzania as a kid one of my old man's best friends was employed by the British colonial government to cull elephants.

Which came about as a result of faulty scientific deduction. Elephants were observed tearing down trees therefore get rid of elephants to prevent not realising that it was completely the natural cycle. Lots of similar stuff happened. For example clearing bush to get rid of Tsetse fly. Got rid of sleeping sickness but allowed tribal cattle herders to inhabit regions which couldn't support cattle.

These actions came about as a result of faulty observation and logic.

Similar to listening to someone present a valid premise then trying to counteract by criticising the colour of the opponents hair.

remery
WA, 3709 posts
27 Apr 2023 9:48AM
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"Effectiveness studies of HM have been undertaken by ranchers and farmers who were selected because of their commitment to HM. In other words, such studies were neither experimental nor were the participants randomly selected. Livestock producers who may have had negative experiences with HM were not included in the studies. Nearly all of the support and confirmation for HM come from articles developed at the Savory Institute or testimonials by practitioners. Most of the published literature that attempts to rigorously test HM in any scientific fashion does not support its principal assumptions."

www.hindawi.com/journals/ijbd/2014/163431/

hardpole
WA, 608 posts
27 Apr 2023 1:46PM
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Just finished reading this book Otherworlds by Thomas Halliday. Gives you a very different outlook on whats "natural" and whats not.

www.amazon.com/Otherlands-Journeys-Earths-Extinct-Ecosystems/dp/0593132882

Left me thinking we are just some slime in the petri dish of life (although at some times in the planets evolution slime has been pretty important).

One thing that sticks in my mind is if the time scale was translated to distance, where Darwin is first life form on earth and Adelaide is "now" then each Km is a Million years. Walking that path 17m gets you to the Pleistocene, humans in a lush Australia with cow sized wombats, one city block and no humans on this continent. 550 Km further and there is no life on land. And we still have a long way to go. He picked that analogy as the fossils found at that location are from that time. The rest if the way its just bacteria! (having driven that road in 2021 I can say its not just bacteria now - no slur intended)

In bed with covid today so time to waste posting on here - been vaxed so not seriously ill - just 3 days resting / in bed so far. But do seriously recommend that book!

hardpole
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27 Apr 2023 1:48PM
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remery said..

japie said..




Is that the guy who shot 40,000 elephants in a failed attempt to reduce desertification?


google does say it was his greatest regret and it didnt work the way he wanted.

Certainly having been to a park where you could see the difference between the land with elephants and where they were excluded they do have a huge effect (Addo Elephant park - near Port Elizabeth).

remery
WA, 3709 posts
27 Apr 2023 2:38PM
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google does say it was his greatest regret and it didnt work the way he wanted.

Certainly having been to a park where you could see the difference between the land with elephants and where they were excluded they do have a huge effect (Addo Elephant park - near Port Elizabeth).


I wonder if he is embarrassed by this statement, "Gone into universities as bright young people, they come out brain dead. What is science? We are going to kill ourselves because of stupidity".

hardpole
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27 Apr 2023 2:54PM
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hardpole said..

google does say it was his greatest regret and it didnt work the way he wanted.

Certainly having been to a park where you could see the difference between the land with elephants and where they were excluded they do have a huge effect (Addo Elephant park - near Port Elizabeth).



I wonder if he is embarrassed by this statement, "Gone into universities as bright young people, they come out brain dead. What is science? We are going to kill ourselves because of stupidity".


Some of the drugs that were around when I was at uni did have that effect. But don't need to go to uni to do that anymore.

japie
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27 Apr 2023 5:05PM
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remery said..


japie said..





Is that the guy who shot 40,000 elephants in a failed attempt to reduce desertification?



google does say it was his greatest regret and it didnt work the way he wanted.

Certainly having been to a park where you could see the difference between the land with elephants and where they were excluded they do have a huge effect (Addo Elephant park - near Port Elizabeth).


I worked in Kwas Zulu Natal on the border of the Umfolosi and Hluhluwe game reserve in the mid 70's.

The difference in vegetation was remarkable. One side supported subsistence farmers and was seriously denuded.

Inside the reserves was a stark contrast with a plethora of wild animals and fauna.

Familiar with Addo as well as I spent ten years in the region. Eastern Province has always been a very hard area to farm. Those who have transitioned to game farming appear to be doing very well.

japie
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27 Apr 2023 5:05PM
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remery said..


japie said..





Is that the guy who shot 40,000 elephants in a failed attempt to reduce desertification?



google does say it was his greatest regret and it didnt work the way he wanted.

Certainly having been to a park where you could see the difference between the land with elephants and where they were excluded they do have a huge effect (Addo Elephant park - near Port Elizabeth).


I worked in Kwas Zulu Natal on the border of the Umfolosi and Hluhluwe game reserve in the mid 70's.

The difference in vegetation was remarkable. One side supported subsistence farmers and was seriously denuded.

Inside the reserves was a stark contrast with a plethora of wild animals and fauna.

Familiar with Addo as well as I spent ten years in the region. Eastern Province has always been a very hard area to farm. Those who have transitioned to game farming appear to be doing very well.

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
27 Apr 2023 6:37PM
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We heard you the first time.

Facts after an issue are easy to see,
but unfortunately most CT crew, even after undisputable facts, still can't see them.
I think it's their pride or ego??? that clouds their vision of what is actually happening in the real world.

I bet if someone claimed that they have been silenced on Youtube for saying the jab works and is safe..........I bet the CT would then believe it, lol.
Seems to be the way they think and then blindly follow or become a major alarmist on social media.

Rango
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27 Apr 2023 4:47PM
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The worlds deserts are actually greening without his help.Sure he may have done some good work restoring over grazed and mismanaged land but he's a bit of alarmist pushing his idea of saving the planet.

remery
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27 Apr 2023 4:55PM
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I used to do experiments in pasture production. We made sure that the people assessing pasture production didn't know which plots were treated and which weren't. A double-blind experiment where scientists deal with unconscious bias.

japie
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27 Apr 2023 8:47PM
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I used to do experiments in pasture production. We made sure that the people assessing pasture production didn't know which plots were treated and which weren't. A double-blind experiment where scientists deal with unconscious bias.


Interesting story. I sat next to a bloke on a plane on the way back from Bangkok after getting some dental work done. Bloke was a cocky but was running a nutrient company called Paradise nutrients.

He told me how he got into it.

He's been running a sheep farm in the upper Hunter Valley during a drought, and got really interested to find out what it was in the feed that he was feeding the sheep which was effective.

He segregated the ingredients out into pens and fed each individual pen a single portion of the nutrient that he was buying.

Turned out that the binder they were using, for the nutrient was the one which was keeping them alive.

From memory, it was clay.

psychojoe
WA, 2234 posts
27 Apr 2023 6:58PM
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Flying Dutchman said..

ok said..
www.instagram.com/p/CrfhUGau_B-/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
I'll just leave this link here for those still in denial and think that the jabs are "SAFE AND EFFECTIVE"

safe : protected from or not exposed to danger or risk; not likely to be harmed or lost.

effective : successful in producing a desired or intended result.



Thanks for sharing that OK. Will be interesting to see if the class action gets anywhere.

Pyschojoe, I was wondering something. Did you say you were involved in a trial for the Covid vaccine but got injured?


Yeah. That's what happened.

Flying Dutchman
WA, 1730 posts
27 Apr 2023 8:16PM
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psychojoe said..
Yeah. That's what happened.

Yeah ok cheers. That's a noble thing to do. I think it's super brave to be in a medical trial without knowing the outcome. Hats off to you for your goodwill in trying to help find a solution for the population.

I was wondering, were you thinking at all during the trials that maybe being a test case was risky? I'm assuming people going into vaccine trials have no doubts about the safety of vaccines in general? How did the trial organisers/scientists/Drs react after you got injured? Was there any acknowledgement of a potential problem with the vaccine?

remery
WA, 3709 posts
27 Apr 2023 10:43PM
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japie said..

Interesting story. I sat next to a bloke on a plane on the way back from Bangkok after getting some dental work done. Bloke was a cocky but was running a nutrient company called Paradise nutrients.

He told me how he got into it.

He's been running a sheep farm in the upper Hunter Valley during a drought, and got really interested to find out what it was in the feed that he was feeding the sheep which was effective.

He segregated the ingredients out into pens and fed each individual pen a single portion of the nutrient that he was buying.

Turned out that the binder they were using, for the nutrient was the one which was keeping them alive.

From memory, it was clay.




The control animals should have been fed the binder/carrier.

If we sprayed plots with fertiliser, we would spray the control plots with water.

psychojoe
WA, 2234 posts
28 Apr 2023 5:39AM
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Flying Dutchman said..

psychojoe said..
Yeah. That's what happened.


Yeah ok cheers. That's a noble thing to do. I think it's super brave to be in a medical trial without knowing the outcome. Hats off to you for your goodwill in trying to help find a solution for the population.

I was wondering, were you thinking at all during the trials that maybe being a test case was risky? I'm assuming people going into vaccine trials have no doubts about the safety of vaccines in general? How did the trial organisers/scientists/Drs react after you got injured? Was there any acknowledgement of a potential problem with the vaccine?


It's the same protein as the Pfizer so the risk seemed fairly low, and there was a pre phase one group of just 30 volunteers and no injuries were reported from that group, and I the only other option I had was the Pfizer so at least this way there was a chance I'd land in the control group.
The immunologist wrote a letter excluding me from RNA vaccines because of the injury but didn't follow through by marking that on the vaccine register, my GP also didn't mark it on the vaccine register, his nurse demanded I book multiple Pfizer shots immediately even though she'd read the professor's letter.
One of the junior trial doctors, the one that recruited me for the study, seemed genuinely concerned, but since the letter everyone else has just ghosted me.
I made a recent call to the head of the hospital because the trial was covered by insurance and I'm supposed to be considered for compensation, no telling if the message will get through, I've finally found a lawyer that might be willing to take the case but I'll give the hospital one more chance to respond.

Flying Dutchman
WA, 1730 posts
28 Apr 2023 8:10PM
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It's the same protein as the Pfizer so the risk seemed fairly low, and there was a pre phase one group of just 30 volunteers and no injuries were reported from that group, and I the only other option I had was the Pfizer so at least this way there was a chance I'd land in the control group.
The immunologist wrote a letter excluding me from RNA vaccines because of the injury but didn't follow through by marking that on the vaccine register, my GP also didn't mark it on the vaccine register, his nurse demanded I book multiple Pfizer shots immediately even though she'd read the professor's letter.
One of the junior trial doctors, the one that recruited me for the study, seemed genuinely concerned, but since the letter everyone else has just ghosted me.
I made a recent call to the head of the hospital because the trial was covered by insurance and I'm supposed to be considered for compensation, no telling if the message will get through, I've finally found a lawyer that might be willing to take the case but I'll give the hospital one more chance to respond.

Hey thanks for the reply psychojoe. Interesting timeline of events. Will be keen to hear how your compensation claim goes.

FormulaNova
WA, 15086 posts
29 Apr 2023 9:01AM
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EmissaryOfPeace said..
Isn't it disgusting that after so many unusual cases of injury and certified vaccine deaths, many still find their compassion severely lacking and, their brainwashing at the hands of professional liars is so complete that they still belittle real world cases of vaccine injury and death?

Shameful.


I think its more disgusting that some loser creates a new login just to wind people up. Probably one of the regular dopes.

It must be a wind-up surely or a complete dissociation from reality, as I haven't read even one case of anyone here not having compassion for those that have been injured.

On the contrary I have read of idiots that continue to harass those that have had the vaccines, purely for taking a vaccine to try and protect themselves and the general population.

'Shameful' is a word used by conceited twats.

FormulaNova
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29 Apr 2023 9:30AM
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EmissaryOfPeace said..

FormulaNova said..


EmissaryOfPeace said..
Isn't it disgusting that after so many unusual cases of injury and certified vaccine deaths, many still find their compassion severely lacking and, their brainwashing at the hands of professional liars is so complete that they still belittle real world cases of vaccine injury and death?

Shameful.


I think its more disgusting that some loser creates a new login just to wind people up. Probably one of the regular dopes.

It must be a wind-up surely or a complete dissociation from reality, as I haven't read even one case of anyone here not having compassion for those that have been injured.

On the contrary I have read of idiots that continue to harass those that have had the vaccines, purely for taking a vaccine to try and protect themselves and the general population.

'Shameful' is a word used by conceited twats.



Quite the judgemental reply don't you think? Is Formula directly identifying with the question?

I guess all the daily harassment by the authorities during the COVID Scamdemic was OK?
The daily vilification / discrimination / segregation and lies?
That kind of harrassment?
Or has that been conveniently forgotten already?


Emissary of the peace? Welcome to the list

Rango
WA, 828 posts
29 Apr 2023 7:49PM
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Have you just turned up on the Rainbow Warrior in Fremantle?

remery
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29 Apr 2023 8:29PM
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Now now don't start with the logical rational angle. I recall the Nobel Laureate inventor of the real time polymerase chain reaction technology saying that his tech should never be used to diagnose an illness. That's what COVID was - a fraudulently set up test protocol.

What would he know? He only invented the tech.


"Dr Mullis died, aged 74, in August 2019, four months before the first signs of the novel coronavirus outbreak in China and six months before the World Health Organisation named the disease COVID-19, making it impossible for the late doctor to have spoken about COVID-19.

D3
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30 Apr 2023 6:26AM
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EmissaryOfPeace said..
Isn't it disgusting that after so many unusual cases of injury and certified vaccine deaths, many still find their compassion severely lacking and, their brainwashing at the hands of professional liars is so complete that they still belittle real world cases of vaccine injury and death?

Shameful.


Morning, Emissary.

I was tempted to use the same paragraph but replace vaccine with covid.

In your few posts here, I've managed to understand that:
- Your claims of seeking Divine Unity don't really match your antagonistic attitude.

- Your supposed compassion only aligns with your anti-vaccine agenda. Where's your compassion for tens of thousands of people in Australia suffering long term harm or who have died from COVID?

- Your appeals to nature and to resist our 'ancient common enemy' are ringing alarm bells. Your setting yourself up on poor foundations if you're going to be challenging "misinformation".

Maybe if you had something new to add to this discourse, Formula Nova might believe you're serious about joining the discussion rather than just a 'wind-up'

FormulaNova
WA, 15086 posts
30 Apr 2023 2:40PM
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I bet you this guy kept quiet about his vaccine injury:

edition.cnn.com/2021/12/01/media/marcus-lamb-covid-death/index.html

Oh that's right. He died from Covid/with Covid/in the same room as Covid.

I wonder if he would have preferred to have survived and had an injury from the vaccination? I can't put words into his mouth but I can guess.



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