Which part of the book is rubbish?
It's a challenge, as I can't check the references the have marked with superscript.
But this quote definitely doesn't match reality:
."Foreign Experiences
In compliance with the WHO recommendation, Switzerland banned the use of HCQ; however, about 2 weeks into the ban, Switzerland's death rates tripled, for about 15 days, until Switzerland reintroduced HCQ. COVID deaths then fell back to their baseline.118 Switzerland's "natural experiment" had provided yet another potent argument for HCQ."
According to the book, the HCQ ban was ordered in June. Switzerland reported daily deaths in single digits or zero from late May through to mid October.
Couldn't see any sign of death rates tripling for a 15 day window in June, July, August, September.
So that seems like an example that perhaps some claims in this book need to be taken with a grain of salt, as they could be entirely unverifiable falsehoods
The Federal Office of Public Health (FOPH) said on April 3, 2023 that no Covid-19 vaccination is recommended for spring/summer 2023. "Nearly everyone in Switzerland has been vaccinated and/or contracted and recovered from Covid-19. Their immune system has therefore been exposed to the coronavirus. In spring/summer 2023, the virus will likely circulate less," the FOPH wrote.
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More than 13,900 people have died in connection with Covid-19 in Switzerland, which has a population of 8.7 million.
Around 69% of the population has received two doses of vaccine.
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According to the book, the HCQ ban was ordered in June. Switzerland reported daily deaths in single digits or zero from late May through to mid October.
Couldn't see any sign of death rates tripling for a 15 day window in June, July, August, September.
So that seems like an example that perhaps some claims in this book need to be taken with a grain of salt, as they could be entirely unverifiable falsehoods
Hey, triple zero is still zero right
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Wouldn't the fact that, in Australia, we had so few people get seriously ill, and /or die, be evidence that all those measures we used were beneficial?
Correlation never does automatically qualify causation. It's a self fullfilling prophecy that Covid harm would reduce over time. You say the Vax worked. We all know the virus mutated.
You say the virus mutated? I thought "it was just the flu" in the first place?
Hello and welcome to cyberspace. The place where you can be or think whatever you want to think / be.
The place where you're ultimately right and correct as you're able to yank articles from said cyber space.
Hello and goodbye to all forms of positive HUMANITY.
THIS IS NOW THE NEVER DEATH OF THE EGO DEATH OF NON CONSEQUENTIAL FAKE PROFILE NAME PROFESSSORS !
PS currently awake at 119am as my hearts decided it needs to enact an immune response of making my heart beat at 160bpms whilst I was asleep thanks to those safe effective Pfizer vaccines.
If anyone knows how to delete this thread please do.
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So, the facts are not necessarily true or the truth you would like to believe.
as far as I can figure out
In a capitalist society / market democracy
those that have the most
decide the most,
and not everyone is happy.
The virus and the vaccine are natural progressions
even human psychology is nature
anyway
those that have the most
decided the best course of action
was to save as many as possible.
Yes, there have been some losers
the strategic was largely a success
in maintaining the growth strategy
might as well delete
Sounds like you're in a position to achieve some good and it sounds like you have done. Now tell me the story of how you freed Assange.
I'm retired, only worked in Canberra briefly, and also overturned the proposed state law as a volunteer.
I was just trying to point out that anyone who claims that vaxxed people (like me) are sheep is a liar, pure and simple.
Really Yarpie
You should look into things a little closer.
Founded in 2021, World Council for Health is a non-profit initiative of EbMCsquared CiC,
Tess Lawrie is the CEO of EbMCsquared CIC
Surely that is a pattern that any self respecting CTer would think is fishy
PS the directors and and steering Committee of both Not For Profit company are the same people
And here is a bit of info you should read about Homeopathy
Since the beginning of the 21st century, a series of meta-analyses have further shown that the therapeutic claims of homeopathy lack scientific justification.[73] This had led to a decrease or suspension of funding by many governments. In a 2010 report, the Science and Technology Committee of the United Kingdom House of Commons recommended that homeopathy should no longer receive National Health Service (NHS) funding due its lack of scientific credibility;[73] NHS funding for homeopathy ceased in 2017.[28] They also asked the Department of Health in the UK to add homeopathic remedies to the list of forbidden prescription items.[29]In 2015, the National Health and Medical Research Council of Australia found that "there are no health conditions for which there is reliable evidence that homeopathy is effective".[74] The federal government only ended up accepting three of the 45 recommendations made by the 2018 review of Pharmacy Remuneration and Regulation.[75] The same year the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) held a hearing requesting public comment on the regulation of homeopathic drugs.[76] In 2017 the FDA announced it would strengthen regulation of homeopathic products.[77]The American non-profit Center for Inquiry (CFI) filed a lawsuit in 2018 against the CVS pharmacy for consumer fraud over its sale of homeopathic medicines.[78] It claimed that CVS was selling homeopathic products on an easier-to-obtain basis than standard medication.[79] In 2019, CFI brought a similar lawsuit against Walmart for "committing wide-scale consumer fraud and endangering the health of its customers through its sale and marketing of homeopathic medicines".[80][81] They also conducted a survey in which they found consumers felt ripped off when informed of the lack of evidence for the efficacy of homeopathic remedies, such as those sold by Walmart and CVS.[82][83]In 2021, the French healthcare minister phased out social security reimbursements for homeopathic drugs.[30][31] France has long had a stronger belief in the virtues of homeopathic drugs than many other countries and the world's biggest manufacturer of alternative medicine drugs, Boiron, is located in that country.[84] Spain has also announced moves to ban homeopathy and other pseudotherapies.[32] In 2016, the University of Barcelonacancelled its master's degree in Homeopathy citing "lack of scientific basis", after advice from the Spanish Ministry of Health.[85] Shortly afterwards the University of Valencia announced the elimination of its Masters in Homeopathy.
Thank you for the information on homeopathy. Tess Lawrie has an impeccable record as a professional medical scientist. You will be unable to find any negative criticism of her dating back to before she promoted her meta analysis on ivermectin. Since then the machine went to work in its usual fashion as it has with virtually every other serious scientist that spoke out and criticised the narrative.
There are more than a handful of high achievers including Nobel Laureates who are in the same position. Likewise there are many individuals whose eyes have been opened to the corruption of the pharmaceutical industry.
I used to find it so perplexing as to how seemingly intelligent people refuse to look at the content or listen to the message being delivered because they have an opinion on a matter.
Can you please tell us how "the machine went to work" in detail?
How were the other scientists - the ones who supported the consensus - driven to do so?
If you're going to say that's what happened, surely you must know exactly how it was done, so please tell us in detail.
I could give it a crack but Robert Kennedy has already done a sterling job so I'll leave it to him. Starting with Hydroxychloroquine because the two medicines received the same treatment and HCQ came first.
II: KILLING HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE
Most of my fellow Democrats understand that Dr. Fauci led an effort to deliberately derail America's access to lifesaving drugs and medicines that might have saved hundreds of thousands of lives and dramatically shortened the pandemic. There is no other aspect of the COVID crisis that more clearly reveals the malicious intentions of a powerful vaccine cartel-led by Dr. Fauci and Bill Gates-to prolong the pandemic and amplify its mortal effects in order to promote their mischievous inoculations.
Efficacy Against Coronavirus with Early Intervention HCQ Protocol
Some 200 peer-reviewed studies (C19Study.com) by government and independent researchers deem HCQ safe and effective against Coronavirus, especially when taken prophylactically or when taken in the initial stages of illness along with zinc and Zithromax.
The chart below lists 32 studies of early outpatient treatment of COVID using hydroxychloroquine. Thirty-one of the studies showed benefit, and only one study showed harm. The study showing harm resulted from a single patient in the treatment group requiring hospitalization. When all the studies are collected together, despite having different outcome measures, the average benefit is 64 percent. This means that subjects who received hydroxychloroquine were only 36 percent as likely to reach the negative outcomes as subjects in the control groups.
The scientific literature first suggested that HCQ or CQ might be effective treatments for Coronavirus in 2004.13 In that era, following an outbreak, Chinese and Western governments were pouring millions of dollars into an effort to identify existing, a.k.a. "repurposed," medicines that were effective against coronaviruses. With HCQ, they had stumbled across the Holy Grail. In 2004, Belgian researchers found that chloroquine was effective at viral killing at doses equivalent to those used to treat malaria, i.e., doses that are safe.14 A CDC study published in 2005 in the Virology Journal, "Chloroquine is a Potent Inhibitor of SARS Coronavirus Infection and Spread" demonstrated that CQ quickly eliminated coronavirus in primate cell culture during the SARS outbreak. That study concludes: "We report . . . that chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS-Coronavirus infection of primate cells . . . [both] before or after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic and therapeutic advantage."15
This conclusion was particularly threatening to vaccine makers since it implies that chloroquine functions both as a preventive "vaccine" as well as a cure for SARS coronavirus. Common sense would presume it to be effective against other coronavirus strains. Worse still for Dr. Fauci and his vaccine-making friends, a NIAID study16 and a Dutch paper,17 both in 2014, confirmed chloroquine was effective against MERS-still another coronavirus.
In response to their studies, physicians worldwide discovered early in the pandemic that they could successfully treat high-risk COVID-19 patients as outpatients, within the first five to seven days of the onset of symptoms, with a chloroquine drug alone or with a "cocktail" consisting of hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and azithromycin (or doxycycline). Multiple scholarly contributions to the literature quickly confirmed the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine and hydroxychloroquine-based combination treatment when administered within days of COVID symptoms. Studies confirming this occurred in China,18 France,19 Saudi Arabia,20 Iran,21 Italy,22 India,23 New York City,24 upstate New York,25 Michigan,26 and Brazil.27
HCQ's first prominent champion was Dr. Didier Raoult, the iconic French infectious disease professor, who has published more than 2,700 papers and is famous for having discovered 100 microorganisms, including the pathogen that causes Whipple's Disease. On March 17, 2020, Dr. Raoult provided a preliminary report on 36 patients treated successfully with hydroxychloroquine and sometimes azithromycin at his institution in Marseille.28
In April, Dr. Vladimir (Zev) Zelenko, M.D., an upstate New York physician and early HCQ adopter, reproduced Dr. Didier Raoult's "startling successes" by dramatically reducing expected mortalities among 800 patients Zelenko treated with the HCQ cocktail.29
By late April of 2020, US doctors were widely prescribing HCQ to patients and family members, reporting outstanding results, and taking it themselves prophylactically.
In May 2020, Dr. Harvey Risch, M.D., Ph.D. published the most comprehensive study, to date, on HCQ's efficacy against COVID. Risch is Yale University's super-eminent Professor of Epidemiology, an illustrious world authority on the analysis of aggregate clinical data. Dr. Risch concluded that evidence is unequivocal for early and safe use of the HCQ cocktail. Dr. Risch published his work-a meta-analysis reviewing five outpatient studies-in affiliation with the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health in the American Journal of Epidemiology, under the urgent title, "Early Outpatient Treatment of Symptomatic, High-Risk COVID-19 Patients that Should be Ramped-Up Immediately as Key to Pandemic Crisis."30
He further demonstrated, with specificity, how HCQ's critics-largely funded by Bill Gates and Dr. Tony Fauci31-had misinterpreted, misstated, and misreported negative results by employing faulty protocols, most of which showed HCQ efficacy administered without zinc and Zithromax which were known to be helpful. But their main trick for ensuring the protocols failed was to wait until late in the disease process before administering HCQ-when it is known to be ineffective. Dr. Risch noted that evidence against HCQ used late in the course of the disease is irrelevant. While acknowledging that Dr. Didier Raoult's powerful French studies favoring HCQ efficacy were not randomized, Risch argued that the results were, nevertheless, so stunning as to far outweigh that deficit: "The first study of HCQ + AZ [ . . . ] showed a 50-fold benefit of HCQ + AZ vs. standard of care . . . This is such an enormous difference that it cannot be ignored despite lack of randomization."32 Risch has pointed out that the supposed need for randomized placebo-controlled trials is a shibboleth. In 2014 the Cochrane Collaboration proved in a landmark meta-analysis of 10,000 studies, that observational studies of the kind produced by Didier Raoult are equal in predictive ability to randomized placebo-controlled trials.33 Furthermore, Risch observed that it is highly unethical to deny patients promising medications during a pandemic-particularly those which, like HCQ, have long-standing safety records.
So, against all that I've shared here, Dr. Fauci offered up one answer: hydroxychloroquine should not be used because we don't understand the mechanism it uses to defeat COVID-another shibboleth transparently invoked to defeat common sense. Regulators do not understand the mechanism of action of many drugs, but they nonetheless license those that are effective and safe. The fact is that we know more about how HCQ beats COVID than we know about the actions of many other medicines, including-notably-Dr. Fauci's darlings, mRNA vaccines and remdesivir.
Furthermore, an August 2020 paper from Baylor University by Dr. Peter McCullough et al. described mechanisms by which the components of the "HCQ cocktail" exert antiviral effects.34 McCullough shows that the efficacy of the HCQ cocktail is based on the pharmacology of the hydroxychloroquine ionophore acting as the "gun" and zinc as the "bullet," while azithromycin potentiates the anti-viral effect.
An even more expansive September 30, 2020 meta-review summarizes more recent research, concluding that ALL the studies on early administration of HCQ within a week following infection demonstrate efficacy, while studies of HCQ administered later in the illness show mixed results.35
In March, 2020 Nature published a paper demonstrating the specific mechanisms in tissue culture by which chloroquine stops viral reproduction.36
In April, 2020, a team of Chinese scientists published a preprint of a 62-patient placebo-controlled trial of hydroxychloroquine, resulting in demonstrably improved time to recovery and less progression to severe disease in the treated group.37
In May, 2020, a Chinese expert consensus group recommended doctors use chloroquine routinely for mild, moderate, and severe cases of COVID-19 pneumonia.38
A national study in Finland in May 2021 showed a 5x efficacy.39 And national studies in Canada and Saudi Arabia showed 3x efficacy.40
I'll stop gilding the lily here and ask the reader: Was hydroxychloroquine some crazy baseless idea, or ought regulators to have honestly investigated it as a potential remedy during a raging pandemic?
Pharma's War on HCQ
The prospect of an existing therapeutic drug (with an expired patent) that could outperform any vaccine in the war against COVID posed a momentous threat to the pharmaceutical cartel. Among the features pharma companies most detest is low cost, and HCQ is about $10 per course.41 Compare that to more than $3000 per course for Dr. Fauci's beloved remdesivir.42
No surprise, pharmaceutical interests launched their multinational preemptive crusade to restrict and discredit HCQ starting way back in January 2020, months before the WHO declared a pandemic and even longer before President Trump's controversial March 19 endorsement. On January 13, when rumors of Wuhan flu COVID-19 began to circulate, the French government took the bizarre, inexplicable, unprecedented, and highly suspicious step of reassigning HCQ from an over-the-counter to a prescription medicine.43 Without citing any studies, French health officials quietly changed the status of HCQ to "List II poisonous substance" and banned its over-the-counter sales.44 This absolutely remarkable coincidence repeated itself a few weeks later when Canadian health officials did the exact same thing, quietly removing the drug from pharmacy shelves.45
A physician from Zambia reported to Dr. Harvey Risch that in some villages and cities, organized groups of buyers emptied drugstores of HCQ and then burned the medication in bonfires outside the towns. South Africa destroyed two tons of life-saving hydroxychloroquine in late 2020, supposedly due to violation of an import regulation.46 The US government in 2021 ordered the destruction of more than a thousand pounds of HCQ, because it was improperly imported.47 "The Feds are insisting that all of it be destroyed, and not be used to save a single life anywhere in the world," said a lawyer seeking to resist the senseless order.
By March, front-line doctors around the world were spontaneously reporting miraculous results following early treatment with HCQ, and this prompted growing anxiety for Pharma. On March 13, a Michigan doctor and trader, Dr. James Todaro, M.D., tweeted his review of HCQ as an effective COVID treatment, including a link to a public Google doc.48,49 Google quietly scrubbed Dr. Todaro's memo. This was six days before the President endorsed HCQ. Google apparently didn't want users to think Todaro's message was missing; rather, the Big Tech platform wanted the public to believe that Todaro's memo never even existed. Google has a long history of suppressing information that challenges vaccine industry profits. Google's parent company Alphabet owns several vaccine companies, including Verily, as well as Vaccitech, a company banking on flu, prostate cancer, and COVID vaccines.50,51 Google has lucrative partnerships with all the large vaccine manufacturers, including a $715 million partnership with GlaxoSmithKline.52 Verily also owns a business that tests for COVID infection.53 Google was not the only social media platform to ban content that contradicts the official HCQ narrative. Facebook, Pinterest, Instagram, YouTube, MailChimp, and virtually every other Big Tech platform began scrubbing information demonstrating HCQ's efficacy, replacing it with industry propaganda generated by one of the Dr. Fauci/Gates-controlled public health agencies: HHS, NIH and WHO. When President Trump later suggested that Dr. Fauci was not being truthful about hydroxychloroquine, social media responded by removing his posts.
It was a March 2020 news conference where Dr. Fauci launched his concerted attack on HCQ. Asked whether HCQ might be used as a prophylaxis for COVID, he shouted back: "The answer is No, and the evidence that you're talking about is anecdotal evidence."54 His reliable allies at the New York Times then launched a campaign to defame Dr. Raoult.55
In the midst of a deadly pandemic, somebody very powerful wanted a medication that had been available over the counter for decades, and known to be effective against coronaviruses, to be suddenly but silently pulled from the shelves-from Canada to Zambia.
In March, at HHS's request, several large pharmaceutical companies-Novartis, Bayer, Sanofi, and others-donated their inventory, a total of 63 million doses of hydroxychloroquine and 2 million of chloroquine, to the Strategic National Stockpile, managed by BARDA, an agency under the DHHS Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response.56 BARDA's Director, Dr. Rick Bright, later claimed the chloroquine drugs were deadly, and he needed to protect the American public from them.57 Bright colluded with FDA to restrict use of the donated pills to hospitalized patients. FDA publicized the authorization using language that led most physicians to believe that prescribing the drug for any purpose was off-limits.
But at the beginning of June, based on clinical trials that intentionally gave unreasonably high doses to hospitalized patients and failed to start the drug until too late, FDA took the unprecedented step of revoking HCQ's emergency authorization,58 rendering that enormous stockpile of valuable pills off limits to Americans while conveniently indemnifying the pharmaceutical companies for their inventory losses by allowing them a tax break for the donations.
After widespread use of the drug for 65 years, without warning, FDA somehow felt the need to send out an alert on June 15, 2020 that HCQ is dangerous, and that it required a level of monitoring only available at hospitals.59 In a bit of twisted logic, Federal officials continued to encourage doctors to use the suddenly-dangerous drug without restriction for lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, Lyme and malaria. Just not for COVID. With the encouragement of Dr. Fauci and other HHS officials, many states simultaneously imposed restrictions on HCQ's use.
The Fraudulent Industry Studies
The Fraudulent Industry Studies Prior to COVID-19, not a single study had provided evidence against the use of HCQ based on safety concerns.
In response to the mounting tsunami that HCQ was safe and effective against COVID, Gates, Dr. Fauci and their Pharma allies deployed an army of industry-linked researchers to gin up contrived evidence of its dangers.
By 2020, we shall see, Bill Gates exercised firm control over WHO and deployed the agency in his effort to discredit HCQ.60
Dr. Fauci, Bill Gates, and WHO financed a cadre of research mercenaries to concoct a series of nearly twenty studies-all employing fraudulent protocols deliberately designed to discredit HCQ as unsafe. Instead of using the standard treatment dose of 400 mg/day, the 17 WHO studies administered a borderline lethal daily dose starting with 2,400 mg.61 on Day 1, and using 800 mg/day thereafter. In a cynical, sinister, and literally homicidal crusade against HCQ, a team of BMGF operatives played a key role in devising and pushing through the exceptionally high dosing. They made sure that UK government "Recovery" trials on 1,000 elderly patients in over a dozen British, Welsh, Irish and Scottish hospitals, and the U.N. "Solidarity" study of 3,500 patients in 400 hospitals in 35 countries, as well as additional sites in 13 countries (the "REMAP-COVID" trial), all used those unprecedented and dangerous doses.62 This was a brassy enterprise to "prove" chloroquine dangerous, and sure enough, it proved that elderly patients can die from deadly overdoses. "The purpose seemed, very clearly, to poison the patients and blame the deaths on HCQ," says Dr. Meryl Nass, a physician, medical historian, and biowarfare expert.
In each of these two trials, SOLIDARITY and RECOVERY, the hydroxychloroquine arm predictably had 10-20 percent more deaths than the control arm (the control arm being those patients lucky enough to receive standard supportive care).63
The UK government and Wellcome Trust and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation (BMGF) jointly financed the Recovery Trial.64 The principal investigator (PI), Peter Horby, is a member of SAGE and is the chairman of NERVTAG, the New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group, both important committees that give the UK government advice on mitigating the pandemic.65,66 Horby's willingness to risk death of patients given toxic doses of HCQ fueled his subsequent rise in the UK medical hierarchy. Horby received a parade of extraordinary promotions after he orchestrated the mass poisonings of senior citizens. Queen Elizabeth recently knighted him.67
Gates's fingerprints are all over this sanguinary project. Despite suspiciously missing pages, the published minutes of WHO's part-secret March and April meetings show these medical alchemists establishing the lethal dosing of chloroquines (CQ and HCQ) for WHO's Solidarity clinical trial. Only four participants attended the second WHO meeting to determine the dose of HCQ and CQ for the Solidarity trial. One was Scott Miller, the BMGF's Senior Program Officer. The report admits that the Solidarity trial was using the highest dose of any recent trial.68
The report acknowledges that, "The BMGF developed a model of chloroquine penetration into tissues for malaria."69 BMGF's unique dosing model for the studies deliberately overestimated the amount of HCQ that necessary to achieve adequate lung tissue concentrations. The WHO report confesses that, "This model is however not validated." Gates's deadly deception allowed FDA to wrongly declare that HCQ would be ineffective at safe levels.
The minutes of that March 13, 2020 meeting suggest that BMGF knew the proper drug dosing and the need for early administration. Yet their same researchers then participated in deliberately providing a potentially lethal dose, failing to dose by weight, missing the early window during which treatment was known to be effective, and giving the drug to subjects who were already critically ill with comorbidities that made it more likely they would not tolerate the high dose. The Solidarity trial design also departed from standard protocols by collecting no safety data: only whether the patient died, or how many days they were hospitalized. Researchers collected no information on in-hospital complications. This strategy shielded the WHO from gathering information that could pin adverse reactions on the dose.
The report of WHO's HCQ trial notes that WHO researchers did not retain any consent forms from the elderly patients they were overdosing, as the law in most countries requires, and makes the bewildering claim that some patients signed consent forms "in retrospect"-a stunning procedure that is unethical on its face. The WHO's researchers noted in their interim report on the trial, "Consent forms were signed and retained by the patients; [An extremely unorthodox and suspicious procedure that suggests that there may have been no formal consents] but noted for record that, consent was generally prospective, but could (where locally approved) be retrospective." One wonders if researchers notified their families of the high dose they were giving to their elderly parents and grandparents in locked COVID wards to which they denied family members access.
The researchers evinced their guilty knowledge by concealing the research records of the doses they used in Solidarity when they filed their trial reports. They also omitted dosing numbers from the report of WHO's meeting to determine the dose, and omitted details of dosing from the WHO's Solidarity trial registration.
Another group of researchers using overdose concentrations of chloroquine published their study as a preprint in mid-April 2020 (and quickly brought to print) in the preeminent journal, JAMA (The Journal of the American Medical Association) In this murder-for-hire scheme, Brazilian researchers used a dose of 1,200 mg/day for up to ten days of CQ.70 According to a 2020 review of CQ and HCQ toxicity, "As little as 2-3 g of chloroquine may be fatal in adult patients, though the most commonly reported lethal dose in adults is 3-4 g." Predictably, so many subjects died in the Brazilian high dose study (39 percent, 16 of 41 of the subjects who took this dose) that the researchers had to halt the study. The subjects' mean age was only 55.71 Their medical records revealed EKG changes characteristic of CQ toxicity.
The WHO and UK trial coordinators must have known this information, but they made no efforts to stop their own overdose trials, nor to lower the doses.
Although Gates did not fund the JAMA study directly (it's very possible he funded it indirectly through a nebulous list of funders), the senior and last author, Marcus Vin?cius Guimar?es Lacerda, has been a Gates-funded researcher on numerous projects. Further, the BMGF has funded multiple projects at the same medical foundation where he and the first, or "lead" author, Borba, work in Manaus, Brazil.72 (Traditionally, the first listed author is generally seen as the senior and accountable author.)
Gates and his cabal used an arsenal of other deceptive gimmickry to assure that HCQ would appear not just deadly, but ineffective. Each of the studies that Gates funded failed to incorporate Zithromax and zinc-important components of HCQ protocols. All of the Fauci, Gates, WHO, Solidarity, Recovery and Remap-COVID studies administered HCQ at late stages of COVID infection, in contravention of the prevailing recommendations that deem HCQ effective only when doctors administer it early.73,74 Viewing this orchestrated sabotage with frustration, critics accused the Gates grantees of purposefully designing these studies, at best, to fail and, at worst, to murder.75 Brazilian prosecutors have accused the authors of the study of committing homicide by purposefully poisoning the elderly subjects in their study with high doses of chloroquine.76
All through 2020, Bill Gates and Fauci lashed out against HCQ every chance they got. During the early stages of the pandemic in March, Bill Gates penned an op-ed in The Washington Post.77 Besides calling for a complete lockdown in every state, along with accelerated testing and vaccine development, Gates warned that: "Leaders can help by not stoking rumors or panic buying. Long before the drug hydroxychloroquine was approved as an emergency treatment for COVID-19, people started hoarding it, making it hard for lupus patients who need it to survive."78
This, of course, was a lie. The only ones hoarding HCQ were Dr. Fauci and Rick Bright, who had padlocked 63 million doses in the Strategic National Stockpile79-more than enough to supply virtually every gerontology-ward patient in America. Despite such efforts to create a shortage, none existed. HCQ is cheap, quick, and easy to manufacture, and since its patent is expired, dozens of manufacturers around the world can quickly ramp up production to meet escalating demand.
In July, Gates endorsed censorship of HCQ recommendations after a video touting its efficacy against coronavirus accumulated tens of millions of views.80 Gates called the video "outrageous," and praised Facebook and YouTube for hastily removing it. He nevertheless complained "You can't find it directly on those services, but everybody's sending the link around because it's still out there on the internet."81 This, Gates told Yahoo News, revealed a persistent shortcoming of the platforms. "Their ability to stop things before they become widespread, they probably should have improved that," Gates scolded.
Asked by Bloomberg News in mid-August about how the Trump White House had promoted HCQ "despite its repeatedly being shown to be ineffective and, in fact, to cause heart problems in some patients," Gates happily responded: "This is an age of science, but sometimes it doesn't feel that way. In the test tube, hydroxychloroquine looked good. On the other hand, there are lots of good therapeutic drugs coming that are proven to work without the severe side effects."82 Gates went on to promote Gilead's remdesivir as the best alternative, despite its lackluster track record compared to HCQ. He didn't mention having a large stake in Gilead,83 which stood to make billions if Dr. Fauci was able to run remdesivir through the regulatory traps.
Obsequious reporters consistently encouraged Gates to portray himself as an objective expert, and Gates used that interview to discredit HCQ, and also me. His Bloomberg questioner opened the door with a typical softball: "For years, people have said if anti-vaxxers had lived through a pandemic, the way their grandparents did, they'd think differently." Gates replied: "The two times I've been to the White House [since 2016], I was told I had to go listen to anti-vaxxers like Robert Kennedy, Jr. So, yes, it's ironic that people are questioning vaccines and we're actually having to say, 'Oh, my God, how else can you get out of a tragic pandemic?'"84 If he had only asked me, I could have told him!
Lancetgate
It remains an enduring mystery just which powerful figure(s) caused the world's two most prestigious scientific journals, The Lancet and the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM), to publish overtly fraudulent studies from a nonexistent database owned by a previously unknown company. Anthony Fauci and the vaccine cartel celebrated the Lancet and NEJM papers on May 22, 2020 as the final nail in hydroxychloroquine's coffin.85,86
Both studies in these respected publications relied on data from the Surgisphere Corporation, an obscure Illinois-based "medical education" company that claimed to somehow control an extraordinary global database boasting access to medical information from 96,000 patients in more than 600 hospitals.87 Founded in 2008, this sketchy enterprise had eleven employees, including a middling science fiction writer and a porn star/events hostess. Surgisphere claimed to have analyzed data from six continents and hundreds of hospitals that had treated patients with HCQ or CQ in real time. Someone persuaded the Lancet and the New England Journal of Medicine to publish two Surgisphere studies in separate articles on May 1 and 22. Like the other Gates-supported studies, the Lancet article portrayed HCQ as ineffective and dangerous. The Lancet study said that the Surgisphere data proved that HCQ increased cardiac mortality in COVID-19 patients. Based on this study, the FDA withdrew its EUA recommendation on June 15, 2020,88 the WHO and UK suspended their hydroxychloroquine clinical trials on May 25.89 Each resumed briefly, then stopped for good in June declaring HCQ unhelpful.90 Three European nations immediately banned use of HCQ, and others followed within weeks.91
That would normally have been the end of it, if not for the 200 independent scientists who quickly exposed the Lancet and NEJM studies as shockingly clumsy con jobs.92 The Surgisphere datasets that formed the foundation of the studies were so ridiculously erroneous that they could only have been a rank invention. To cite only one of many discrepancies, the number of reported deaths among patients taking hydroxychloroquine in one Australian hospital exceeded the total number of deaths for the entire country. An international brouhaha quickly revealed that the Surgisphere database did not exist, and soon enough, Surgisphere itself vanished from the Internet. The University of Utah terminated the faculty appointment of one of the article's authors, Amit Patel. Surgisphere's founder, Sapan S. Desai, disappeared from his job at a Chicago hospital.
Even the New York Times reported that "More than 100 scientists and clinicians have questioned the authenticity" of the database, as well as the study's integrity.93 Despite the barrage of astonished criticism, the Lancet held firm for two weeks before relenting to the remonstrances. Finally, three of the four Lancet coauthors requested the paper be retracted. Both The Lancet and NEJM finally withdrew their studies in shame. Somebody at the very pinnacle of the medical cartel had twisted arms, kicked groins, and stoved in kneecaps to force these periodicals to abandon their policies, shred their ethics, and spend down their centuries of hard-won credibility in a desperate bid to torpedo HCQ. To date, neither the authors nor the journals have explained who induced them to coauthor and publish the most momentous fraud in the history of scientific publishing.
The headline of a comprehensive expos? in The Guardian expressed the global shock among the scientific community at the rank corruption by scientific publishing's most formidable pillars: "The Lancet has made one of the biggest retractions in modern history. How could this happen?"94 The Guardian writers openly accused The Lancet of promoting fraud: "The sheer number and magnitude of the things that went wrong or missing are too enormous to attribute to mere incompetence." The Guardian commented, "What's incredible is that the editors of these esteemed journals still have a job-that is how utterly incredible the supposed data underlying the studies was."
The capacity of their Pharma overlords to strong-arm the world's top two medical journals, the NEJM and The Lancet, into condoning deadly research95,96 and to simultaneously publish blatantly fraudulent articles in the middle of a pandemic, attests to the cartel's breathtaking power and ruthlessness. It is no longer controversial to acknowledge that drug makers rigorously control medical publishing and that The Lancet, NEJM, and JAMA are utterly corrupted instruments of Pharma. The Lancet editor, Richard Horton, confirms, "Journals have devolved into information laundering operations for the pharmaceutical industry."97 Dr. Marcia Angell, who served as an NEJM editor for 20 years, says journals are "primarily a marketing machine."98 Pharma, she says, has co-opted "every institution that might stand in its way."99,100
Cracking Down on HCQ to Keep Case Fatalities High
Referring to the Lancet Surgisphere study during a May 27 CNN interview, Dr. Fauci stated on CNN about hydroxychloroquine, "The scientific data is really quite evident now about the lack of efficacy."101 And even after the scandal lay exposed and the journals retracted their articles, Dr. Fauci let his lie stand. Instead of launching an investigation of this momentous and enormously consequential fraud by the world's two leading medical journals and publicly apologizing, Dr. Fauci and the medical establishment simply ignored the wrongful conduct and persevered in their plan to deny global populations access to lifesaving HCQ.
The historic journal retractions went practically unnoticed in the slavish, scientifically illiterate mainstream press, which persisted in fortifying the COVID propaganda. Headlines continued to blame HCQ for the deaths instead of the deliberately treacherous researchers who gave sick, elderly, and compromised patients toxic drug dosages. And most remarkable of all, the FDA made no effort to change the recommendation it made against HCQ. Other countries persisted in demonizing the life-saving drug.
Once the FDA approves a prescription medication, federal laws allow any US physician to prescribe the duly approved drug for any reason. Twenty-one percent of all prescriptions written by American doctors, exercising their medical judgment, are for off-label uses.102
Even after the FDA withdrew its Emergency Use Authorization and posted the fraudulent warning on its website,103 many front-line doctors across the country continued to prescribe and report strong benefits with appropriate doses of HCQ. In response, Dr. Fauci took even more unprecedented steps to derail doctors from prescribing HCQ.
In March, while people were dying at the rate of 10,000 patients a week, Dr. Fauci declared that hydroxychloroquine should only be used as part of a clinical trial.104 For the first time in American history, a government official was overruling the medical judgment of thousands of treating physicians, and ordering doctors to stop practicing medicine as they saw fit. Boldly and relentlessly, Dr. Fauci kept declaring that "The Overwhelming Evidence of Properly Conducted Randomized Clinical Trials Indicate No Therapeutic Efficacy of Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ)."105 Dr. Fauci failed to disclose that NONE of the trials he had used as the basis for that pronouncement involved medication given in the first five to seven days after onset of symptoms. Instead, all of those randomized controlled trials targeted patients who were already sick enough to be hospitalized.
People wanting to be treated in that first critical week of illness and avoid being hospitalized were basically out of luck as Dr. Fauci moved to foreclose patients from receiving the lifesaving remedy during the treatment window when science and previous experience showed it to be effective.
On July 2, following the humiliating journal retractions, Detroit's Henry Ford Health System published a peer-reviewed study showing that hydroxychloroquine significantly cut death rates even in mid-to-late COVID cases, and without any heartrelated side effects.106 Fauci leapt to the barricades to rescue his vaccine enterprise. On July 30, he testified before Congress that the Michigan results were "flawed."107
The FDA revocation of the EUA and Dr. Fauci's withering response to the Michigan trial provided cover for 33 governors whose states moved to restrict prescribing or dispensing of HCQ.108
In New York, Governor Andrew Cuomo drove up record death counts by ordering that physicians prescribe HCQ only for hospitalized patients.109 In Nevada, Governor Steven Sisolak prohibited both prescribing and dispensing chloroquine drugs for COVID-19.110 State medical licensing boards threatened to bring "unprofessional conduct" charges against non-complying doctors (a threat to their license) and to "sanction" doctors if they prescribed the drug.111 Most pharmacists were afraid to dispense HCQ, and on June 15, state pharmacy boards in Arizona, Arkansas, Michigan, Minnesota, New Hampshire, New York, Oregon, and Rhode Island began refusing orders from physicians and retailers.112 Hospitals commanded doctors to cease treating their patients with HCQ beginning June 15, 2020.113 The NIAID halted a clinical trial of the drug in outpatients, in June 2020, only a month after it started, having enrolled only 20 of the planned 2,000 enrollees.114 The FDA blocked access to the millions of doses of HCQ and CQ that Sanofi and other drug makers had donated to the Strategic National Stockpile (with appropriate tax benefits).115 Sanofi announced it would no longer supply the drug for use treating COVID. Dr. Fauci and his HHS cronies decreed that the medication rot in warehouses while Americans unnecessarily sickened and died from COVID-19.
On June 17, the WHO-for which Mr. Gates is the largest funder after the US, and over which Mr. Gates and Dr. Fauci exercise tight control-called for the halt of HCQ trials in hundreds of hospitals across the world.116 WHO Chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus ordered nations to stop using HCQ and CQ. Portugal, France, Italy, and Belgium banned HCQ for COVID-19 treatment.117
Foreign Experiences
In compliance with the WHO recommendation, Switzerland banned the use of HCQ; however, about 2 weeks into the ban, Switzerland's death rates tripled, for about 15 days, until Switzerland reintroduced HCQ. COVID deaths then fell back to their baseline.118 Switzerland's "natural experiment" had provided yet another potent argument for HCQ.
Similarly, Panamanian physician and government advisor Sanchez Cardenas notes that when Panama banned HCQ, deaths shot up, until the government relented, at which point deaths dropped back to baseline.119
Seven months into the pandemic, nations that widely used HCQ and made it readily available to their citizens demonstrated overwhelming evidence that HCQ was obliterating COVID-19.
A June 2, 2020 court filing supporting the use of HCQ for COVID included an Association of American Physicians & Surgeons (AAPS) comparison of national death rates among countries with varying policies governing access to HCQ. Many countries with underdeveloped health care systems were using HCQ early and achieving far lower mortalities than in the United States, where HHS and the FDA impede access to HCQ.120 AAPS General Counsel Andrew Schlafly observed that "Citizens of the Philippines, Poland, Israel, and Turkey all have greater access to HCQ than American citizens do," and they have superior morbidity outcomes. He added, "In Venezuela, HCQ is available over the counter without a prescription, while in the United States, pharmacists are prevented from filling prescriptions for HCQ."121
Other foreign studies support strong claims for HCQ. A study by Nova demonstrated that nations using HCQ have death rates 80 percent lower than those that banned it.122
A meta-review of 58 peer-reviewed observational studies by physician researchers in Spain, Italy, France, and Saudi Arabia found that hydroxychloroquine dramatically reduced mortality from COVID, while additional articles by doctors in Turkey, Canada, and the US found that HCQ's cardiac toxicity is negligible. (See c19study.com for a compilation of 99 (58 peer-reviewed) studies of the chloroquine drugs in COVID-19.)123
Furthermore, mortality and morbidity data from over six dozen nations indicate a strong relationship between access to HCQ and COVID-19 death rates.124,125 While such a relationship does not prove cause/effect, it would be lunacy to simply ignore the reality and assume no relationship.
Country by country, data consistently links broader access to HCQ to lower mortality. The very poorest countries-if they used HCQ-had far lower case fatality rates than wealthy countries that did not. Even impoverished African nations, where "experts" like Bill Gates predicted the highest death rates, had drastically lower mortalities than in nations that banned HCQ. Senegal and Nigeria, for example, both use hydroxychloroquine and had COVID fatality rates that were significantly lower than those experienced in the United States.126
Similarly, despite the fact that hygiene in those countries is often far inferior, in Ethiopia,127 Mozambique,128 Niger,129 Congo,130 and Ivory Coast,131 there are far fewer per capita deaths than in the US. In those nations, death rates vary between 8 and 47.2 deaths per million inhabitants as of September 24, 2021. In contrast, western countries that denied access to HCQ experienced numbers of coronavirus deaths per million inhabitants between 220 per million in Holland,132 2,000 per million in the US, and 850 deaths per million in Belgium.133 Dr. Meryl Nass observed, "If people in these malaria countries would boost their immune system with zinc, vitamin C and vitamin D, the coronavirus death toll would even further decrease."
Similarly, Bangladesh CFR, Senegal, Pakistan, Serbia, Nigeria, Turkey, and Ukraine all allow unrestricted use of HCQ and all have miniscule case fatality rates compared to the countries that ban HCQ.134 Wealthier democracies or countries with especially restrictive HCQ protocols-Ireland, Canada, Spain, the Netherlands, UK, Belgium, and France-are comparatively deadly environments.
Andrew Schlafly observed that, "The mortality rate from COVID-19 in countries that allow access to HCQ is only one-tenth the mortality rate in countries where there is interference with this medication, such as the United States. . . . In some areas of Central America, officials are even going door to door to distribute HCQ. . . . These countries have been successful in limiting the mortality from COVID-19 to only a fraction of what it is in wealthier countries."135
As the industry/government cartel ramped up its campaign to keep HCQ from the masses, many doctors fought back. On July 23, Yale virologist Dr. Harvey Risch persisted, this time with a Newsweek article titled "The key to defeating COVID-19 already exists. We need to start using it."136 Dr. Risch beseeched the authorities: HCQ saves lives and its use could quickly end the pandemic. By then, Dr. Risch had updated his rigorous analysis of the early treatment of COVID-19 with hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and azithromycin. He now cited twelve clinical studies suggesting that the early administration of HCQ could lower death rates by 50 percent. In that case, COVID-19 would have a lower case fatality rate than the seasonal influenza. "We would still have had a pandemic," Harvey Risch told me, "but we wouldn't have had the carnage."
Noting more than fifty HCQ studies, Dr. Meryl Nass, in June 2020, supported Risch's calculation: "If people were treated prophylactically with this drug (using only 2 tablets weekly) as is done in some areas and some occupational groups in India, there would probably be at least 50 percent fewer cases after exposure."137 Stopping the pandemic in its tracks seemed to be the last thing Tony Fauci wanted. Thanks to Dr. Fauci, most US states had by then banned treatment with HCQ, including Dr. Nass's home state of Maine, which banned it for prophylaxis, but did allow it for acute treatment. Dr. Nass suggested that the "acts to suppress the use of HCQ [were] carefully orchestrated" and that "these events [might] have been planned to keep the pandemic going to sell expensive drugs and vaccines to a captive population."138
In the same article by Dr. Meryl Nass, published on June 27, 2020,139 Nass-who has extensively studied HCQ-pointed out that with prophylactic treatment with HCQ "at the onset of their illness, over 99 percent would quickly resolve the infection, avoiding progression to the late-stage disease characterized by cytokine storm, thrombophilia, and organ failure. Despite claims to the contrary, this treatment is very safe, yet outpatient treatment is banned in the United States."
Beginning June 27, 2020, Dr. Nass began a list of deceptive strategies that the Fauci/Pharma/Gates cartel used to control the narrative on hydroxychloroquine and deny Americans access to this effective remedy. The list has grown to 58 separate strategies.140 "It is remarkable," she observed, how "a large series of events taking place over the past months produced a unified message about hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) and produced similar policies about the drug in the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and western Europe. The message is that generic, inexpensive hydroxychloroquine (costing only $1.00 to produce a full course) is dangerous."141
Dr. Fauci's Hypocritical HCQ Games
In his early AIDS days, Dr. Fauci had thrashed FDA as inhumane for demanding randomized double-blind placebo studies at the height of the pandemic. Now, here he was doing what he had condemned by blocking an effective treatment simply because it would compete with his expensive patent-protected pharmaceutical, remdesivir, and vaccines.
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Dr. Fauci repeatedly insisted he would not allow HCQ for COVID-19 until its efficacy is proven in "randomized, double-blind placebo studies."142 Dr. Risch calls this position a "transparent sham." Dr. Fauci knew that neither industry nor its PI's would ever sponsor trials for a product with expired patents. It's noteworthy that while Dr. Fauci was bemoaning the lack of evidence of HCQ efficacy, he was refusing to commission his own trials to study early use of the hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and Zithromax remedy. Dr. Fauci himself, while spending 48 billion dollars on zero-liability vaccines, at first refused to allocate anything for a randomized placebo study of HCQ. Even worse, he cancelled two NIAID-sponsored trials of outpatient HCQ before completion.143
Dr. Fauci's hypocrisy about HCQ is evident to anyone who looks at his vacillating pronouncements throughout his long career. He has persistently insisted on double-blind randomized placebo trials for medicines he dislikes (those that compete with his patented remedies) and airily fixed the NIAID study of remdesivir by changing the endpoints midstream to favor the drug. Dr. Fauci did not sponsor or encourage randomized trials for masks, lockdowns, or social distancing. And in the decades since he took over NIAID, he has never demanded randomized studies to confirm safety of the combined 69 vaccine doses currently on the childhood schedule. Every one of these vaccines is regarded as so "unavoidably unsafe"-in the words of the 1986 Vaccine Act (NCVIA) and the Supreme Court-that their manufacturers have demanded-and received-immunity from liability.
During a 2013 USA Today interview, Dr. Fauci discussed remedies for another deadly coronavirus, MERS, which was causing an outbreak in Qatar and Saudi Arabia with over 30 percent mortality.144 Dr. Fauci then sang an entirely different tune than he is singing now about hydroxychloroquine. He suggested using a combination of the antiviral drugs ribavirin and interferon-alpha 2b to treat MERS, even though the treatment had never been tested for safety or effectiveness against MERS in humans. In that circumstance, Dr. Fauci's NIAID had found that the treatment could stop MERS virus from reproducing in lab-grown cells. And, oh yes, NIAID had patented it.145
"We don't have to start designing new drugs," Dr. Fauci told journalists.146 "The next time someone comes into an emergency room in Qatar or Saudi Arabia, you would have drugs that are readily available. And at least you would have some data."147 Even though the treatment hadn't gone through any trials, Dr. Fauci urged its compassionate use: "If I were a physician in a hospital and someone were dying, rather than do nothing, you can see if these work."148
He played by all-new rules when it came to COVID, forcing doctors to stand on the sidelines while patients died and prohibiting them from trying combinations of repurposed therapeutics to "see if these work."149 Back in 2013, when Dr. Fauci endorsed Ribavirin/Interferon for use against MERS, the two-punch hepatitis C remedy was, according to NIH, horrendously dangerous, with harms occurring in literally every patient who took the concoction. It causes hemolytic anemia chronic fatigue syndrome, and a retinue of birth defects and/or death of unborn children. Ribavirin is genotoxic, mutagenic, and a potential carcinogen.150
Nevertheless, in 2013, Dr. Fauci advocated the therapy, despite the total lack of randomized, placebo-controlled clinical trials, in fact, the lack of any human data on using the combination against MERS.
The COVID vaccines that qualified for Emergency Use Authorization include novel platforms like mRNA and DNA with no known safety profile. Others use toxic adjuvants like squalene and aluminum or novel adjuvants, with proven risks and potentially high rates of serious injuries. The two-month randomized clinical trials that justified the EUAs for COVID vaccines were far too brief to detect injuries with longer incubation periods.151,152,153 The vaccines are so risky that the insurance industry has refused to underwrite them,154 and the manufacturers refuse to produce them without blanket immunity from liability.155 Bill Gates, who is the principal investor in many of these new COVID vaccines, stipulated that their risk is so great that he would not provide them to people unless every government shielded him from lawsuits.156
Why then should HCQ be the only remedy required to cross this artificially high hurdle? After all, HCQ is less in need of randomized placebo studies than any of these vaccines or remdesivir; the safety of HCQ has been established over more than six decades. While vaccines are given to healthy people who face small risk of catching the disease, HCQ is administered to people who are actually sick, with virtually no risk to the patient. If a drug is safe and might work, if people are dying and there are no other good options, must we not try it?
Dr. Fauci's on-again-off-again interest in drug safety is situational and self-interested. He claimed on July 31 about HCQ that "If that randomized placebo-controlled trial shows efficacy, I would be the first to admit it and to promote it, but I have not. So I just have to go with the data. I don't have any horse in the game one way or the other; I just look at the data."157
In fact, Dr. Fauci always had a stable of horses in the game. One of them is remdesivir, even after the WHO's randomized placebo trial showed remdesivir ineffective against COVID.158 Furthermore, remdesivir has a catastrophic safety profile.159
His second nag is the Moderna vaccine, in which he invested years and six billion taxpayer dollars. He was thrilled to sponsor a human trial of a Moderna COVID vaccine (partly owned by his agency), before there were any safety and efficacy data from animal studies, which goes against FDA regulations. He then pushed for hundreds of millions of people to get EUA vaccines before the randomized placebo-controlled trials were complete. So much for Dr. Fauci's requirement for having high-quality evidence before risking use of drugs and vaccines in humans.
Dr. Fauci's ethical flip-flopping about the need for rigid safety testing is particularly troubling since he is championing a competitive product from which his agency and his employees expect a lucrative financial outcome.
In the midst of a pandemic, with hundreds of thousands of deaths attributed to COVID, and the economy in free fall, Dr. Fauci's suggestion that we withhold promising treatments that have an established safety profile-from patients who have a potentially lethal disease-pending the completion of randomized controlled clinical trials, is highly manipulative and utterly unethical. It is not medically ethical to allow a COVID-19 patient to deteriorate in the early stages of the infection when there is an inexpensive, safe, and demonstrably effective HCQ treatment that CDC's and NIAID's own studies show blocks coronavirus replication. It would be equally unethical to enroll sick individuals in such studies-as Dr. Fauci proposes-in which half the infected patients would receive a placebo.
Dr. Fauci's hypocrisy is particularly acute since the 21st Century Cures Act, which Congress passed in 2016, directs the FDA to accept precisely the type of "real world" evidence reported by treating physicians like Drs. Zelenko, Raoult, Risch, Kory, McCullough, Gold, and Chinese doctors, in lieu of controlled clinical trials, for licensing new products.160
The Cures Act161 recognizes that doctors and scientists can obtain very useful information when treating patients and observing the results outside of a formal trial setting.
For Big Pharma, no milestone was more important during the current pandemic than neutralizing HCQ to prevent its widespread beneficial use.
Dr. Fauci's shocking inconsistency and ethical breaches are congruent with his long history of promoting Big Pharma's more profitable patented products and using his power and influence to advance its agenda without regard to public health. Dr. Fauci's leadership role in this deadly scandal is consistent with his long history of discrediting therapies that compete with vaccines and other patented pharmaceutical products.
Thanks to Dr. Fauci's strategic campaign, most Americans are still unable to obtain HCQ for early treatment of COVID-19, even fewer Americans are able to access it as preventive medicine, and fewer still are aware of its benefits.
His bizarre and inexplicable actions give credence to the suspicions held by many Americans that Dr. Fauci is working to prolong the epidemic in order to impose expensive patented drugs and vaccines on a captive population, during a pandemic that has crashed the world economy, caused famines, and destroyed lives. While Dr. Fauci held us hostage waiting for what turned out to be imperfect vaccines, his own agency attributed over half a million deaths in America to COVID.
Professor Risch believes that Dr. Fauci knowingly lied about the drug hydroxychloroquine and used his influence to get the FDA to suppress it because he and other bureaucrats are "in bed with other forces that are causing them to make decisions that are not based on the science [and are] killing Americans."162
Moreover, Dr. Risch specifically claims that Fauci and the FDA have caused "the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans who could have been saved by" HCQ.163
That does nothing to answer the question I asked, and a quick read shows it's full of rubbish. As one simple example, Kennedy claims that most Dems know that there was a conspiracy. In that case, why don't they make a huge fuss about the (supposed) fact that the Republican president allowed a vast conspiracy to go on? Proving that would deliver the Democrats the White House for years to come. So allegely the Democrats could score the biggest victory over their political rivals in history and yet they are sitting quiet. Oh come on, that's just bizarre.
The claims about hydroxychloroquine and studies are also bollocks. Let's just look at the 2005 Virology Journal study. It dealt with a DIFFERENT drug applied in a DIFFERENT way and its effect on a DIFFERENT disease on DIFFERENT cells from a DIFFERENT organ in a DIFFERENT animal. Not only were they not human cells, they weren't even normal green monkey cells. That's a clear six points of difference.
Saying that is proof that hydrox. works against C19 is like saying that if axle grease works in a trailer axle bearing then it will also work in the fuel tank of a diesel engine. Or put it this way - it's like saying that if pile ointment works to stop your arse from hurting, you should swallow it to stop an earache. But let's leave aside those points.
I asked "How were the other scientists - the ones who supported the consensus - driven to do so?
If you're going to say that's what happened, surely you must know exactly how it was done, so please tell us in detail."
We know that most relevant scientists follow the consensus. Why do they do that, if (as you claim) the consensus is wrong?
If you claim that they were forced to follow the consensus because of fear for their career, or something, exactly what were they scared of? How was "the establishment" going to effect the careers of the scientists who followed the consensus?
You make all the claims, so please show us how it works. It's a very simple question - where's your answer?
Hello and welcome to cyberspace. The place where you can be or think whatever you want to think / be.
The place where you're ultimately right and correct as you're able to yank articles from said cyber space.
Hello and goodbye to all forms of positive HUMANITY.
THIS IS NOW THE NEVER DEATH OF THE EGO DEATH OF NON CONSEQUENTIAL FAKE PROFILE NAME PROFESSSORS !
PS currently awake at 119am as my hearts decided it needs to enact an immune response of making my heart beat at 160bpms whilst I was asleep thanks to those safe effective Pfizer vaccines.
If anyone knows how to delete this thread please do.
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I sympathise with your illness, but where's the video you promised on Thursday, and I asked for yesterday?
FormulaNova you poor deluded soul. Us anti vaxxers didn't take a guess, we simply took the time to read, research, listen and we connected the dots.
And you're claiming we pro-vaxxers didn't take the time to read, research, listen and connect the data?
The person closest to me has spent years in medical research. She has therefore spent years learning how to read, research, listen and connect the dots. She is also firmly in favour of vaxxing.
This is the thing that is frustrating about conspiracy theorists - they actually do far less research than many people, but claim that they do more.
Yes
You really can't do an intelligent response, can you? Do you really think that showing a video like that would change the mind of anyone with half a brain?
You're the herd animal, not me, but you're not as smart as the typical sheep.
I've personally taken on state and federal government formally-proposed laws and had them changed. You are a liar if you think someone who does that is like a sheep.
I just don't think you are worth my time giving any more than a single word response.
No point trying to wake a sheep when my time is better spent waking the lions.
I don't think you understand the difference between educated and intelligent.
People can be both educated and still be an idiot.
Gee, you're doing a really good job of "waking the lions". Sitting on a sailing forum posting ****'s really getting the majority of Australians to reject vaxxes, isn't it.
It's not just that you're failing, it's that you are too lazy and/or gutless to do a proper job of changing anything.
This is the thing that is frustrating about conspiracy theorists - they actually do far less research than many people, but claim that they do more.
Normal research is 'was it approved' if yes then it's safe. Antivax research is 'I saw it on Facebook' so it mustn't be safe.
My research was mostly listening to Dr. Lawrence S. Meyer (he and his mates could all be full of ****, I've no way to check) that's where I heard that the FDA board of 20 voted 12 against the EUA and it wasn't until the head of the FDA had his job threatened that approval was granted.
Perhaps one of your former peers in the U.S. will investigate the matter.
I sympathise with your illness, but where's the video you promised on Thursday, and I asked for yesterday?
Sorry I haven't read what you asked for there's so many posts. Please remind me and I'll do my best to facilitate

This is the video but Seabreeze won't allow me to upload a video. If you provide an email I can send it to you as you seem to forget how badly we have been lied to.
first video April 2022
"Getting that third dose is protection against severe illness but also getting infection in the first place"
Second video August 2022
"despite 2,3,4 doses of the vaccine, it's not so good at preventing infection in the first place. So we are getting infected and that's why we have had 10s of thousands of cases in this wave"
It was nice too read that you only just knew of one person who died of covid yet you're on Seabreeze where you know of many who's lives have been ruined by the vaccines. formulanomates didn't respond because well no mates..
The chief medical officer above has also resigned which is just another "coincidence" I suppose.
Thanks for posting,but you claimed that you had a video showing a Health Minister saying first"get vaccinated, it not only stops you getting the virus, it stops severe illness and it stops you from spreading the virus" and then at a later date that "we were completely wrong. It's now showing none of this is true".
Your claims are untrue.
The video does not show a Health Minister and he does not say what you claimed he did. Despite the heading on the vid, that's not "Australia's Chief Health Officer". Australia doesn't have a "Chief Health Officer". The guy who made the clip is either a complete liar, or he's careless.
Apart from being wrong about the title, the vid doesn't actually say what you claim. In the first clip, Brett Sutton (the Victorian CHO) said the vax protects you but that "protection wanes over time", which is correct.
Things that protect us are not always total protection. A hat protect you from sunburn but you can still get sunburn. Good lifting protects you from back injury but you can still get a sore back.
The fact that he later said it's "not so good" doesn't mean it didn't protect anyone earlier. It's just normal English use. It's simple - Put it this way - if you say a lifejacket can protect you but that it's "not so good" as a lifejacket and a safety harness, you're completely right.
The other thing you're ignoring is that the virus mutates, and that vaxs change to address that.
I don't know anyone in real life from SB, and it's real life that I was asked about. If we're talkingabout people I know from forums, people from school, people who are friends of friends then I know far, far more than just one person who died from Covid.
How do you know your medical issues came from a vax? Sadly, plenty of us get new health issues all the time. A mate of mine who seemed very healthy had a heart attack a couple of weeks ago. That wasn't linked to anything he did, it just happens. When millions of people do something, the simple probability is that lots of them will later develop health issues but that's just because lots of people develop health issues all the time.
By the way, are you suggesting that the CHO Brett Sutton resigned because of pressure because he was in a conspiracy? What else are you suggesting?
If he was pushed out because he was part of a conspiracy, who pushed him now and why didn't they push him earlier?
The chief medical officer above has also resigned which is just another "coincidence" I suppose.
From the Royal Australian College of General Practitioners in 2020.
"Outgoing Chief Medical Officer praised for work during the pandemic.
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Professor Murphy will continue his involvement in the response to the coronavirus in his next post as Secretary of the Federal Health Department, succeeding Glenys Beauchamp on 13 July. Professor Murphy will be the first medical doctor to serve in the role.
His appointment was first announced in January and meant to be begin on 29 February. However, the move was delayed due to the threat and uncertainty being posed by the coronavirus pandemic."
Really Yarpie
You should look into things a little closer.
Founded in 2021, World Council for Health is a non-profit initiative of EbMCsquared CiC,
Tess Lawrie is the CEO of EbMCsquared CIC
Surely that is a pattern that any self respecting CTer would think is fishy
PS the directors and and steering Committee of both Not For Profit company are the same people
And here is a bit of info you should read about Homeopathy
Since the beginning of the 21st century, a series of meta-analyses have further shown that the therapeutic claims of homeopathy lack scientific justification.[73] This had led to a decrease or suspension of funding by many governments. In a 2010 report, the Science and Technology Committee of the United Kingdom House of Commons recommended that homeopathy should no longer receive National Health Service (NHS) funding due its lack of scientific credibility;[73] NHS funding for homeopathy ceased in 2017.[28] They also asked the Department of Health in the UK to add homeopathic remedies to the list of forbidden prescription items.[29]In 2015, the National Health and Medical Research Council of Australia found that "there are no health conditions for which there is reliable evidence that homeopathy is effective".[74] The federal government only ended up accepting three of the 45 recommendations made by the 2018 review of Pharmacy Remuneration and Regulation.[75] The same year the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) held a hearing requesting public comment on the regulation of homeopathic drugs.[76] In 2017 the FDA announced it would strengthen regulation of homeopathic products.[77]The American non-profit Center for Inquiry (CFI) filed a lawsuit in 2018 against the CVS pharmacy for consumer fraud over its sale of homeopathic medicines.[78] It claimed that CVS was selling homeopathic products on an easier-to-obtain basis than standard medication.[79] In 2019, CFI brought a similar lawsuit against Walmart for "committing wide-scale consumer fraud and endangering the health of its customers through its sale and marketing of homeopathic medicines".[80][81] They also conducted a survey in which they found consumers felt ripped off when informed of the lack of evidence for the efficacy of homeopathic remedies, such as those sold by Walmart and CVS.[82][83]In 2021, the French healthcare minister phased out social security reimbursements for homeopathic drugs.[30][31] France has long had a stronger belief in the virtues of homeopathic drugs than many other countries and the world's biggest manufacturer of alternative medicine drugs, Boiron, is located in that country.[84] Spain has also announced moves to ban homeopathy and other pseudotherapies.[32] In 2016, the University of Barcelonacancelled its master's degree in Homeopathy citing "lack of scientific basis", after advice from the Spanish Ministry of Health.[85] Shortly afterwards the University of Valencia announced the elimination of its Masters in Homeopathy.
Thank you for the information on homeopathy. Tess Lawrie has an impeccable record as a professional medical scientist. You will be unable to find any negative criticism of her dating back to before she promoted her meta analysis on ivermectin. Since then the machine went to work in its usual fashion as it has with virtually every other serious scientist that spoke out and criticised the narrative.
There are more than a handful of high achievers including Nobel Laureates who are in the same position. Likewise there are many individuals whose eyes have been opened to the corruption of the pharmaceutical industry.
I used to find it so perplexing as to how seemingly intelligent people refuse to look at the content or listen to the message being delivered because they have an opinion on a matter.
Can you please tell us how "the machine went to work" in detail?
How were the other scientists - the ones who supported the consensus - driven to do so?
If you're going to say that's what happened, surely you must know exactly how it was done, so please tell us in detail.
Chris 249 said..
That does nothing to answer the question I asked, and a quick read shows it's full of rubbish. As one simple example, Kennedy claims that most Dems know that there was a conspiracy. In that case, why don't they make a huge fuss about the (supposed) fact that the Republican president allowed a vast conspiracy to go on? Proving that would deliver the Democrats the White House for years to come. So allegely the Democrats could score the biggest victory over their political rivals in history and yet they are sitting quiet. Oh come on, that's just bizarre.
The claims about hydroxychloroquine and studies are also bollocks. Let's just look at the 2005 Virology Journal study. It dealt with a DIFFERENT drug applied in a DIFFERENT way and its effect on a DIFFERENT disease on DIFFERENT cells from a DIFFERENT organ in a DIFFERENT animal. Not only were they not human cells, they weren't even normal green monkey cells. That's a clear six points of difference.
Saying that is proof that hydrox. works against C19 is like saying that if axle grease works in a trailer axle bearing then it will also work in the fuel tank of a diesel engine. Or put it this way - it's like saying that if pile ointment works to stop your arse from hurting, you should swallow it to stop an earache. But let's leave aside those points.
I asked "How were the other scientists - the ones who supported the consensus - driven to do so?
If you're going to say that's what happened, surely you must know exactly how it was done, so please tell us in detail."
We know that most relevant scientists follow the consensus. Why do they do that, if (as you claim) the consensus is wrong?
If you claim that they were forced to follow the consensus because of fear for their career, or something, exactly what were they scared of? How was "the establishment" going to effect the careers of the scientists who followed the consensus?
You make all the claims, so please show us how it works. It's a very simple question - where's your answer?
You know full well that it's not full of rubbish.
If it were Kennedy would have been lambasted by the media and would be facing multiple libel cases. The only solution is to do exactly what you have done.
I don't know what your agenda is but for someone who purports to be a defender of the truth you're transparently a fraud.
I will post the chapter on ivermectin in my own good time. It's even more damning than HCQ.
Japie, what happened to that info you said 3 years ago that you had from the German Secret Society?? that proved that covid was made to depopulate the earth, that all governments worldwide had planned it all.
Remember, you said you had some undeniable evidence that proved it ??
Is it still a secret or can you share this undeniable evidence now ??
Thanks for posting,but you claimed that you had a video showing a Health Minister saying first"get vaccinated, it not only stops you getting the virus, it stops severe illness and it stops you from spreading the virus" and then at a later date that "we were completely wrong. It's now showing none of this is true".
Your claims are untrue.
The video does not show a Health Minister and he does not say what you claimed he did. Despite the heading on the vid, that's not "Australia's Chief Health Officer". Australia doesn't have a "Chief Health Officer". The guy who made the clip is either a complete liar, or he's careless.
Apart from being wrong about the title, the vid doesn't actually say what you claim. In the first clip, Brett Sutton (the Victorian CHO) said the vax protects you but that "protection wanes over time", which is correct.
Things that protect us are not always total protection. A hat protect you from sunburn but you can still get sunburn. Good lifting protects you from back injury but you can still get a sore back.
The fact that he later said it's "not so good" doesn't mean it didn't protect anyone earlier. It's just normal English use. It's simple - Put it this way - if you say a lifejacket can protect you but that it's "not so good" as a lifejacket and a safety harness, you're completely right.
The other thing you're ignoring is that the virus mutates, and that vaxs change to address that.
I don't know anyone in real life from SB, and it's real life that I was asked about. If we're talkingabout people I know from forums, people from school, people who are friends of friends then I know far, far more than just one person who died from Covid.
How do you know your medical issues came from a vax? Sadly, plenty of us get new health issues all the time. A mate of mine who seemed very healthy had a heart attack a couple of weeks ago. That wasn't linked to anything he did, it just happens. When millions of people do something, the simple probability is that lots of them will later develop health issues but that's just because lots of people develop health issues all the time.
By the way, are you suggesting that the CHO Brett Sutton resigned because of pressure because he was in a conspiracy? What else are you suggesting?
If he was pushed out because he was part of a conspiracy, who pushed him now and why didn't they push him earlier?
Vic CHO Sutton was required by law to review the actions of megalomaniac Andrews within two weeks to ensure they were the least detrimental to society. That didn't happen. Two months later Sutton told Neill Mitchell on 3aw that he hadn't reviewed anything and he wasn't involved in any of the decision making "the decision making process took a different direction". As the only person appointed to review the not entirely illegal actions of Andrews, his actions were far beyond negligent. Some might suggest that for anyone in such a prominent position to completely disregard their responsibilities smacks of conspiracy.
Really Yarpie
You should look into things a little closer.
Founded in 2021, World Council for Health is a non-profit initiative of EbMCsquared CiC,
Tess Lawrie is the CEO of EbMCsquared CIC
Surely that is a pattern that any self respecting CTer would think is fishy
PS the directors and and steering Committee of both Not For Profit company are the same people
And here is a bit of info you should read about Homeopathy
Since the beginning of the 21st century, a series of meta-analyses have further shown that the therapeutic claims of homeopathy lack scientific justification.[73] This had led to a decrease or suspension of funding by many governments. In a 2010 report, the Science and Technology Committee of the United Kingdom House of Commons recommended that homeopathy should no longer receive National Health Service (NHS) funding due its lack of scientific credibility;[73] NHS funding for homeopathy ceased in 2017.[28] They also asked the Department of Health in the UK to add homeopathic remedies to the list of forbidden prescription items.[29]In 2015, the National Health and Medical Research Council of Australia found that "there are no health conditions for which there is reliable evidence that homeopathy is effective".[74] The federal government only ended up accepting three of the 45 recommendations made by the 2018 review of Pharmacy Remuneration and Regulation.[75] The same year the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) held a hearing requesting public comment on the regulation of homeopathic drugs.[76] In 2017 the FDA announced it would strengthen regulation of homeopathic products.[77]The American non-profit Center for Inquiry (CFI) filed a lawsuit in 2018 against the CVS pharmacy for consumer fraud over its sale of homeopathic medicines.[78] It claimed that CVS was selling homeopathic products on an easier-to-obtain basis than standard medication.[79] In 2019, CFI brought a similar lawsuit against Walmart for "committing wide-scale consumer fraud and endangering the health of its customers through its sale and marketing of homeopathic medicines".[80][81] They also conducted a survey in which they found consumers felt ripped off when informed of the lack of evidence for the efficacy of homeopathic remedies, such as those sold by Walmart and CVS.[82][83]In 2021, the French healthcare minister phased out social security reimbursements for homeopathic drugs.[30][31] France has long had a stronger belief in the virtues of homeopathic drugs than many other countries and the world's biggest manufacturer of alternative medicine drugs, Boiron, is located in that country.[84] Spain has also announced moves to ban homeopathy and other pseudotherapies.[32] In 2016, the University of Barcelonacancelled its master's degree in Homeopathy citing "lack of scientific basis", after advice from the Spanish Ministry of Health.[85] Shortly afterwards the University of Valencia announced the elimination of its Masters in Homeopathy.
Thank you for the information on homeopathy. Tess Lawrie has an impeccable record as a professional medical scientist. You will be unable to find any negative criticism of her dating back to before she promoted her meta analysis on ivermectin. Since then the machine went to work in its usual fashion as it has with virtually every other serious scientist that spoke out and criticised the narrative.
There are more than a handful of high achievers including Nobel Laureates who are in the same position. Likewise there are many individuals whose eyes have been opened to the corruption of the pharmaceutical industry.
I used to find it so perplexing as to how seemingly intelligent people refuse to look at the content or listen to the message being delivered because they have an opinion on a matter.
Can you please tell us how "the machine went to work" in detail?
How were the other scientists - the ones who supported the consensus - driven to do so?
If you're going to say that's what happened, surely you must know exactly how it was done, so please tell us in detail.
Chris 249 said..
That does nothing to answer the question I asked, and a quick read shows it's full of rubbish. As one simple example, Kennedy claims that most Dems know that there was a conspiracy. In that case, why don't they make a huge fuss about the (supposed) fact that the Republican president allowed a vast conspiracy to go on? Proving that would deliver the Democrats the White House for years to come. So allegely the Democrats could score the biggest victory over their political rivals in history and yet they are sitting quiet. Oh come on, that's just bizarre.
The claims about hydroxychloroquine and studies are also bollocks. Let's just look at the 2005 Virology Journal study. It dealt with a DIFFERENT drug applied in a DIFFERENT way and its effect on a DIFFERENT disease on DIFFERENT cells from a DIFFERENT organ in a DIFFERENT animal. Not only were they not human cells, they weren't even normal green monkey cells. That's a clear six points of difference.
Saying that is proof that hydrox. works against C19 is like saying that if axle grease works in a trailer axle bearing then it will also work in the fuel tank of a diesel engine. Or put it this way - it's like saying that if pile ointment works to stop your arse from hurting, you should swallow it to stop an earache. But let's leave aside those points.
I asked "How were the other scientists - the ones who supported the consensus - driven to do so?
If you're going to say that's what happened, surely you must know exactly how it was done, so please tell us in detail."
We know that most relevant scientists follow the consensus. Why do they do that, if (as you claim) the consensus is wrong?
If you claim that they were forced to follow the consensus because of fear for their career, or something, exactly what were they scared of? How was "the establishment" going to effect the careers of the scientists who followed the consensus?
You make all the claims, so please show us how it works. It's a very simple question - where's your answer?
You know full well that it's not full of rubbish.
If it were Kennedy would have been lambasted by the media and would be facing multiple libel cases. The only solution is to do exactly what you have done.
I don't know what your agenda is but for someone who purports to be a defender of the truth you're transparently a fraud.
I will post the chapter on ivermectin in my own good time. It's even more damning than HCQ.
No, Kennedy wouldn't be facing multiple libel cases because libel cases in the USA (where he is based) are incredibly hard to win, pretty much requiring proof of actual malice. They also cost a lot of money to run, and even if you win you it's hard to get the money. Finally, do you know the difference in the USA between party-to-party costs and indemnity costs?
You are implying that you know US libel law. Please give us a rundown on US libel costs to show us that you know what you're talking about.
I am a defender of the truth, but you haven't shown anything that is shows that the truth (ie the scientific consensus) is not true.
On what basis do you claim, for example, that a test of a DIFFERENT drug on a DIFFERENT virus on a DIFFERENT cell from a DIFFERENT part of the body of a DIFFERENT animal was relevant?
And while you are answering that, answer the earlier question please - how were the many, many thousands of scientists who would normally have blown the whistle silenced? Why did these thousands of medical researchers who would have been able to look at the published reports stay so quiet?
And no, it's not enough for you to fall back onto silly insults. We're adults here. You are making a claim that can only be true if thousands of researchers were somehow persuaded to stay quiet, and knowingly become implicit in a giant fraud. So tell us in detail how they were silenced.
This is not only a very simple question, it's a vital one for you. So please tell us in detail what happened to keep those thousands of thousands of scientists quiet.
Either have an adult discussion, in which you use reason, logic and relevant evidence, or stop the insults and give up.
Tell us in detail how the other scientists were silenced, or admit that you don't know how this claim - so critical to your allegations - could actually be carried out.
Vic CHO Sutton was required by law to review the actions of megalomaniac Andrews within two weeks to ensure they were the least detrimental to society. That didn't happen. Two months later Sutton told Neill Mitchell on 3aw that he hadn't reviewed anything and he wasn't involved in any of the decision making "the decision making process took a different direction". As the only person appointed to review the not entirely illegal actions of Andrews, his actions were far beyond negligent. Some might suggest that for anyone in such a prominent position to completely disregard their responsibilities smacks of conspiracy.
Okay, can you please tell us;
1 - what law?
2- What "two weeks"?
3- Where is the evidence of this conversation with Mitchell?
4- Why do you think that Andrews' decisions were immune from the normal processes of law?
5- Anyone can suggest anything. Where is the evidence of any conspiracy?
Have you investigated many conspiracies in real life? Have you listened to wire taps, sent in the surveillance guys, jumped over fences at night on raids, or got the forensic guys involved? I've done them all. The fact that one person allegedly didn't follow some alleged law to review someone does not smack of anything to those of us who have actually done this stuff in real life.
Vic CHO Sutton was required by law to review the actions of megalomaniac Andrews within two weeks to ensure they were the least detrimental to society. That didn't happen. Two months later Sutton told Neill Mitchell on 3aw that he hadn't reviewed anything and he wasn't involved in any of the decision making "the decision making process took a different direction". As the only person appointed to review the not entirely illegal actions of Andrews, his actions were far beyond negligent. Some might suggest that for anyone in such a prominent position to completely disregard their responsibilities smacks of conspiracy.
Okay, can you please tell us;
1 - what law?
2- What "two weeks"?
3- Where is the evidence of this conversation with Mitchell?
4- Why do you think that Andrews' decisions were immune from the normal processes of law?
5- Anyone can suggest anything. Where is the evidence of any conspiracy?
Have you investigated many conspiracies in real life? Have you listened to wire taps, sent in the surveillance guys, jumped over fences at night on raids, or got the forensic guys involved? I've done them all. The fact that one person allegedly didn't follow some alleged law to review someone does not smack of anything to those of us who have actually done this stuff in real life.
I do rather enjoy your posts.
Vic CHO Sutton was required by law to review the actions of megalomaniac Andrews within two weeks to ensure they were the least detrimental to society. That didn't happen. Two months later Sutton told Neill Mitchell on 3aw that he hadn't reviewed anything and he wasn't involved in any of the decision making "the decision making process took a different direction". As the only person appointed to review the not entirely illegal actions of Andrews, his actions were far beyond negligent. Some might suggest that for anyone in such a prominent position to completely disregard their responsibilities smacks of conspiracy.
Okay, can you please tell us;
1 - what law?
2- What "two weeks"?
3- Where is the evidence of this conversation with Mitchell?
4- Why do you think that Andrews' decisions were immune from the normal processes of law?
5- Anyone can suggest anything. Where is the evidence of any conspiracy?
Have you investigated many conspiracies in real life? Have you listened to wire taps, sent in the surveillance guys, jumped over fences at night on raids, or got the forensic guys involved? I've done them all. The fact that one person allegedly didn't follow some alleged law to review someone does not smack of anything to those of us who have actually done this stuff in real life.
The law is part of the Victorian health and wellbeing legislation, from memory this was on about page 252, such a boring read.
The wording is something to the effect of the premier may take any health measures without any consultation under a state of emergency (so there's Andrews immunity from normal law) and goes on to say the the Chief health officer must review any measures within two weeks to ensure the least impactful measures have been taken.
The conversation with Neill Mitchell was broadcast on 3aw, I didn't personally keep a record of it but someone would have.
No, I haven't worked as a detective on any level. My work for WAPOL and ADF has been much less exciting than yours, and of course my contracts ceased immediately when I let it be known what I thought of McGowan's dismissal of informed consent for medical procedures. And naturally if a law is broken that you didn't know existed you'd have no reason to be concerned.
"Informed consent is a person's decision, given voluntarily, to agree to a healthcare treatment, procedure or other intervention that is made:
Following the provision of accurate and relevant information about the healthcare intervention and alternative options available; and
With adequate knowledge and understanding of the benefits and material risks of the proposed intervention relevant to the person who would be having the treatment, procedure or other intervention."
How do you know your medical issues came from a vax?
I've got it in writing from my GP, cardiologist, immunologist and even a gastroenterologist saying that the medication to combat my vaccine related issue was burning holes in my throat and stomach.
I don't know what planet you're from but being in denial about having the media and politicians telling us to get vaccinated as it stops the spread and infection is pretty delusional. There's multiple videos on this thread and I'm sure you remember all the celebrities telling us to get it for the above reasons too. ![]()
How do you know your medical issues came from a vax?
I've got it in writing from my GP, cardiologist, immunologist and even a gastroenterologist saying that the medication to combat my vaccine related issue was burning holes in my throat and stomach.
I don't know what planet you're from but being in denial about having the media and politicians telling us to get vaccinated as it stops the spread and infection is pretty delusional. There's multiple videos on this thread and I'm sure you remember all the celebrities telling us to get it for the above reasons too. ![]()
What on earth are you on about?
I'm not in denial, but you are lying. I have NEVER said that the media and politicians didn't tell us to get vaxxed, and nothing I wrote denied they did. It's perfectly reasonable that they tried to promote vaccination.
I can only guess what makes it perfectly reasonable.
The mountain of evidence that it's safe. No.
The mountain of evidence that it's effective. No.
America did it so we should too. Maybe.
It's the only way to save face after the massive ****show. Possibly, although saving face isn't perfectly reasonable.
I am interested to hear how you arrived at the conclusion that it was and continues to be perfectly reasonable to promote Corminarty vaccination to healthy young Australians.
I can only guess what makes it perfectly reasonable.
The mountain of evidence that it's safe. No.
The mountain of evidence that it's effective. No.
America did it so we should too. Maybe.
It's the only way to save face after the massive ****show. Possibly, although saving face isn't perfectly reasonable.
I am interested to hear how you arrived at the conclusion that it was and continues to be perfectly reasonable to promote Corminarty vaccination to healthy young Australians.
Except there is a mountain of evidence on the safety profile of the Covid vaccines. They are perhaps the most studied medical intervention ever
In fact the speed of their role out has improved our ability to assess safety. If, like you say is a safety trial phase, we should have limited the number of people to access these vaccines for a number of years, it would be very hard to seperate a reaction from general life.
Instead, in Australia we have data from over 60 million doses in 2 years, and the number of reactions that are worse than a normal reaction to flu or tetanus shot is extremely rare. Not zero, because we don't live in a fantasy utopia, but extremely rare.
On the other hand, you claim that there is Zero risk to young people from catching the virus. Would you then recommend that kids over 5 with naive immune systems should repeatedly catch the virus?
Have you got any evidence that there is no long term harm to these pre-scoolers - high-school kids repeatedly catching a new virus?
I mean, there is plenty of evidence from other countries that vaccinate kids,. That rates MISC-C are significantly reduced or eliminated in vaccinated children who then catch Covid
Except there is a mountain of evidence on the safety profile of the Covid vaccines.
It's a shame OK, Pyschojoe & Harrow's daughter were excluded from the data collection.
I can only guess what makes it perfectly reasonable.
The mountain of evidence that it's safe. No.
The mountain of evidence that it's effective. No.
America did it so we should too. Maybe.
It's the only way to save face after the massive ****show. Possibly, although saving face isn't perfectly reasonable.
I am interested to hear how you arrived at the conclusion that it was and continues to be perfectly reasonable to promote Corminarty vaccination to healthy young Australians.
Except there is a mountain of evidence on the safety profile of the Covid vaccines. They are perhaps the most studied medical intervention ever
In fact the speed of their role out has improved our ability to assess safety. If, like you say is a safety trial phase, we should have limited the number of people to access these vaccines for a number of years, it would be very hard to seperate a reaction from general life.
Instead, in Australia we have data from over 60 million doses in 2 years, and the number of reactions that are worse than a normal reaction to flu or tetanus shot is extremely rare. Not zero, because we don't live in a fantasy utopia, but extremely rare.
On the other hand, you claim that there is Zero risk to young people from catching the virus. Would you then recommend that kids over 5 with naive immune systems should repeatedly catch the virus?
Have you got any evidence that there is no long term harm to these pre-scoolers - high-school kids repeatedly catching a new virus?
I mean, there is plenty of evidence from other countries that vaccinate kids,. That rates MISC-C are significantly reduced or eliminated in vaccinated children who then catch Covid
It's called MISc not MISCc, and the numbers are so low, literally comparable to lottery statistics that drawing any conclusions based on this syndrome is akin to predicting lotto numbers.
At no point did I say there's no danger in Covid. I've always maintained that it's significantly worse than regular cold and flu which kills thousands every year including low numbers of Australian children.