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1 May 2026 6:04am
Bit of free time this morning.
This post seems to sum up everything quite well.
jimbodouglass.blogspot.com/2012/07/big-boards-that-do-it-all.html?m=1
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29 Apr 2026 7:24pm
Grantmac said..
I wingfoil, WindSUP and windsurf.

A wing on a SUP would be awful, stick to the sail or get a paddle.
I had the 106 Hypernut and it wasn't great. Are you looking for a board that rides like a big windsurfing board or like a SUP with a sail?


Trying to get away with packing the least amount of gear into the car to cover the biggest amount of conditions. Winter is fine as there is plenty of wind for windsurfing.
Summer (now) is the problem. Weather is harder to predict, so putting in foil gear, surfing gear, supping gear, and light wind windsurfing gear into and out of the car becomes a little bit tiresome.
If push comes to shove, then it's a big SUP with a sail attachment (which I have). Can always have a good time on a SUP, but I love windsurfing.
I still don't really understand board shapes enough to understand how the board will behave, still dazzled by the pretty colors. There is plenty of surfing videos talking about shaping, but windsurfing and sup boards I find hard to find.
I liked my previous 116L hypernut great for windsup, wing foiling, windfoiling, but for my local spot, it did not get much use (b/c shore break), so I was leaning more to a SUP but @ 116L I lack the skill to stay on.
Seems like if I did purchase the RRD board it would not get much use unless I could also happily SUP on it and from the sounds of it maybe it is not a great sup board.

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29 Apr 2026 8:11am
AlexF said..
I had the 10' RRD Wassup and tried a few other boards for sup and windsup.
The RRD was nice for windsup but really stiff for sup turns on waves. OTOH ohter SUPs with more surf oriented shapes/rockers and classic outlines need the stance you descibe when planing on a wave. Pure sailpowered planing felt terrible because they bog around climbing on their tailrocker, braking, re-accerlerating back on the tailrocker and so on.
Best compromisse i found are flat rockered Stubby shapes like your Hypernut was. I had a F-One Papenoo 7'11 which was ok in both applications sup and windsup, but after all a compromise in both worlds.
Now i have a Quatro Glide 8'6 which is more stable and surfs far better, than the former boards.
No more windsup for me though, since winging covers the lightwind days now.


Sounds like it is either a big windsurfing board that can be supped, or a sup board with a mast base hole, which can kinda be windsurfed on or a middle of the road board. And this RRD that I am looking at seems to be a big windsurfing board.
Yeah, I like the Quatro Glide. I find I get through the shore break easily, surfing on a wave: I am just finding out now that I really have to move up and down the board to get it moving. Is it the newer version that is more rounded? I do like my 8'8", but I do wonder if I can go down a little bit in volume to 130L. I had a starboard converse '17 before (9'0 x 30" x 4.1" 142L) and actually found it very unstable so I went up in volume to the Glide but now I think it is more to do with the shape of the board than the volume. At 33" it give me alot more stability.

Has anyone tried the '22 8' Hypernut 5 in 1? Wondering if this might work @ 135L

I know this is not the correct forum, but what about ditching the sail and going for a wing? I only need the power to get out once on the wave; I can flag it out. Is there a very good chance of having to do the "walk of shame" with a wing sup? Can I stay upwind.... The body position having a wing in my hands would not require that large backward position when I have a windsurfing rig.
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26 Apr 2026 4:06pm
Nozza said..
Not sure what the question actually was, but 8' 5" seems short for windsupping.
But i'm far from expert and if it works go for it


Sorry, might have just spattered my thoughts onto the thread.
Previously used a 7'4" 115L for windsuping but had to have wind to keep going
Currently using 8'8" and could do it with no wind if needed
I think the board would be no problem for windsupping but I am not sure about supping.
Question(s) would be "has anyone tried this board or something similar, is the board on the old-fashioned side of a sup board, or maybe too much of a windsup, if you saw this kind of shape, how do you think it would perform in regards to supping?"

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26 Apr 2026 10:38am
Does anyone remember using this old RRD Wassup, maybe called a stinger?
8'5"(256cm) x 31( 78.7cm) @135L
Last year, I sold my 22 Starboard Hypernut 5 in 1 (7'4" 115L). I just wasn't using it enough due to its small volume. I loved windsupping on it, but when it came to supping, it was just a comedy of falling off again and again. I'm currently using a '21 Quatro glide 8'8" 145L supping, it's great but lacks a lot when windsupping. I find I am always around the mast base area. It just lacks that dynamic feel when windsupping. I go into the waves (small crappy shore break), and when it's flat, I'll go for a paddle up the coast a little and come back.
In summer, the wind is lacking, so I would love to go to the beach with a surfboard or 2, a sup, a windsurfing rig, and a paddle. That way I'm covering my bases and can always do something.
Blowing the cobwebs off the old forums, it looks like it is a good board for windsupping, but some people found that over 85kg riders are a bit more technical (info from a French forum). I'm 92kg.
I think for windsupping it's going to be a bit of fun, but what do you all think about supping? Is the style too old fashioned ect....
Thank you all for your time.

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25 Apr 2026 12:04pm
Grantmac said..

Henners said..


Grantmac said..
No videos or experience using a paddle, I'm trash at SUP and would probably just hack the delicate rails to bits but I'll try it someday. Videos would probably be embarrassing to review with tiny waves.
Definitely wants weight back to turn, I rarely use the back strap though.




Those promo videos look great. I used to love the hyped up promo videos but reality is I'm most likely never going to see waves that good (even small ones) or sail that great. Seeing "everyman" videos really interests me and I fell like I learn more then seeing a massive double spinny flippy thingies.



I went looking all over for even a decent review of it wavesailing when I looked to purchase. Like you I bought it, over their Breeze, because I imagine I'll paddle it someday.
Maybe I need to strap a GoPro on the boom at some point.


On the subject of GoPro, I've been using the flymount 40 (first pic), just clamping it at the very end of the boom (I have to remove it to change the outhaul). Previously, I tried the pipe extension off the back of the boom (second pic), but every now and then I would snap the pipe and found it a hassle. Yep, the pipe one gives a better camera angle, but Flymount is making an extension that fits on the end of the clamp, so it might give me a bit of a better angle.
There is a guy who does raw, uncut videos over in Hawaii, I like watching, but I think he's wearing a helmet style, so the angle is a little bit uninteresting.
From my point of view, I'm not really that good at windsurfing and fall flat on my face when I try to describe how a board or a sail functions.
When I'm not being too hard on myself, I'm actually kinda sorta good. I can get on a wave, get through shore breaks when others are getting hammered ect... I've come a long way from the big plastic fantastic board, but who wants to see a video of me falling off my board on every second jibe? And that might be the attitude of many windsurfers, and that is why we don't see many reviews or videos from the "everyman". We only get the super hyped up 20 foot in the air spins and twists. It seems that all boards these days are fast to get up on the plane, turn good, and are bomb proof. So maybe I should start putting up more of my videos, and maybe someone might get something out of it and actually, last time I did, I got so much good advice. Then again, I might just attract people with foot fetishes who just want to see me putting my feet into the strap.







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24 Apr 2026 8:02pm
Grantmac said..
No videos or experience using a paddle, I'm trash at SUP and would probably just hack the delicate rails to bits but I'll try it someday. Videos would probably be embarrassing to review with tiny waves.
Definitely wants weight back to turn, I rarely use the back strap though.


Those promo videos look great. I used to love the hyped up promo videos but reality is I'm most likely never going to see waves that good (even small ones) or sail that great. Seeing "everyman" videos really interests me and I fell like I learn more then seeing a massive double spinny flippy thingies.
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24 Apr 2026 7:51pm
ptsf1111 said..
Overlapping gear, no problem! I like it from a redundancy aspect. It's not easy to get a new replacement board in Australia when you break something, so having spares or alternatives in the same category is great.

I've got two identical wave boards, feels great when I don't have to worry about breaking one. Both purchased second hand, very cheap.



I see your point about backup. I've got a full set of retired sails and did have a board out of action for 3 weeks and had to use 10l less board during that time. So having an extra board would be common sense.
I've been talking myself out of gear over the last couple of weeks saying it was an overlap. Just such a friggen horder, can't help myself. See a board for sale do all the research, watch the videos, check out the old catalogs, and then at the end talk myself out of it.
Seen an old starboard ignite which I would love to try out freestyle on but at the moment talking myself out because I don't sail flat water....
Someone selling a 2025 4.7 x-over for cheap and I've already got an older 4.7 wave which is just fine but I'd love to see the difference. Too many choices, not enough storage, cash, and I think moving closer to the beach would help this addiction. I'm only 30 mins away and that is 15 mins too far.
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23 Apr 2026 8:25pm
Grantmac said..
I have one of the Exocet step-tail WindSUPs, definitely gets me out on the smallest of days. Does the most hilarious impression of a carve gybe as the tail tries to sink but can't.

I've been keeping my eyes out for a second hand one. Currently using a Quatro glide 8' something sup with a rig. It's okay but I find I'm usually standing up near the mast foot rather than back in a windsurfing stance.
You got any video of your windsurfing it ? Have you tried SUPing on one as I'm sure in one of the promos they take it out for a paddle.
Coming back to the gear question, more varied gear = more chance to get out on the water. Issue for me is when the gear overlaps or is almost identical in its use or possibly the biggest problem having gear that you can only use rarely at your spot. I've got foiling gear but with the wind comes an evil shore break (it's not that big, it's just a pain with foiling gear). The foiling gear has been used about 10 times in 4 years. But the SUP gets to ride in the car all the way through summer. No waves to medium waves sup time, a bit of wind then windsup.


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19 Apr 2026 4:33pm
As a kid the shark scene kept me out of the water for a while. Now when I see it, it's comical.
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7 Apr 2026 8:07am
Exactly.
Use this to find your ideal height
Height (m) = square root of(Weight (kg) / 25)
It's not too late to grow; you can do it! Follow your dreams and never give up
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5 Apr 2026 8:38am
The calculation is
BMI = weight (kg) / height (m squared)
for me 92 / (1.92*1.92)
BMI = 24.9

Normal is 18.5 to 24.9
overweight 25 to 29.9
obese 30 - 34.9
extremely obese 35 and up

It is not really a true judge of your body condition; an example would be the current sumo champ, Onosato san.
Height 192cm and 191kg

191 / (192*192)
BMI = 51.8
He would be considered an exceptionally fat b*stard but they are exceptionally fit and healthy (maybe?)

So next time you look in the mirror, just remember you're not fat, you're just virtually challenged. Just grow to match your girth.
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30 Mar 2026 4:41pm
I thought I had to make a choice on selling an older ultrakode as the new ultrakode seems to suit me more. Today that "how many roads must a man walk down before you call him a man" song came into my head.
With a chuckle I decided as long as I've got rack space then the boards can keep coming.
I'll just pull out the fins and straps so I can store a few more. I like the idea of getting bored of a board and playing around with other shapes, picking a board to go to the beach with might be more like buying lollies (candy), "they all taste good but what am I hungry for today?"
Saying all that I'm trying to stay away from the windsurfing second hand websites.
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13 Mar 2026 7:17pm
This might be a bit of a confession "but forgive me I have sinned.... maybe"
When doing slalom I had three boards light wind, medium, and nuking.
Moving over to waves it seems to be a different story. Each board has its own traits, some plain easy, jump, turn hard ect ect.
For about 2 years I have been buying boards and I've currently amassed a small collection of 6 wave boards in total. For some that's a drop. I'm lucky enough to be able to see the wind reports and web cams near my spots so I have a basic idea of what to bring. Usually 2 boards and 3 sails.
Sometimes I'll think maybe I'll sell one and give it a final test before selling only to find I have a great session and it becomes my go to board. I've got a small board that only comes out once a year but it makes it all worth it.
I did sell a board last year and now regret doing it as it was a fast freewave board and at my skill level it really helped me get onto waves and I think a few more seasons would of helped me more than the boards I have.
For some it's a case of not a board problem but a space problem and I should built a shed but I can only carry so many boards in the car (yes I could get a van), only so many riding days.
How do you evaluate when to sell a board, keep a board, do you upgrade every couple of years? Interested to hear about how you deal with this addiction.
Currently broke so no more addiction
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