This might be a bit of a confession "but forgive me I have sinned.... maybe"
When doing slalom I had three boards light wind, medium, and nuking.
Moving over to waves it seems to be a different story. Each board has its own traits, some plain easy, jump, turn hard ect ect.
For about 2 years I have been buying boards and I've currently amassed a small collection of 6 wave boards in total. For some that's a drop. I'm lucky enough to be able to see the wind reports and web cams near my spots so I have a basic idea of what to bring. Usually 2 boards and 3 sails.
Sometimes I'll think maybe I'll sell one and give it a final test before selling only to find I have a great session and it becomes my go to board. I've got a small board that only comes out once a year but it makes it all worth it.
I did sell a board last year and now regret doing it as it was a fast freewave board and at my skill level it really helped me get onto waves and I think a few more seasons would of helped me more than the boards I have.
For some it's a case of not a board problem but a space problem and I should built a shed but I can only carry so many boards in the car (yes I could get a van), only so many riding days.
How do you evaluate when to sell a board, keep a board, do you upgrade every couple of years? Interested to hear about how you deal with this addiction.
Currently broke so no more addiction

I have sinned so bad satan is at the gates..'

My take, There can never be too many boards there can only be too little storage space. for 2 people I have the below..

4 freestyle boards, 90l, 101l, 110l + 86l custom.
1 fsw board 125l
3 wave boards 81l, 87l + 135l custom
1 slalom - 138l

2 sups
2 longboards, Lt and OD

so I'm in the market for another slalom board or 2 and some bigger vol wave boards. Years ago I had a formula board and a 95lt wave board that covered everything. then I paired it down to one board which was a 125lt fsw board..always had a longboard. but hey.

so that one board quiver was all that I actually ever needed.but I got bored. Bought a board, bought another board before I know it I;m out of space.

i give boards away from time to time or sell them for what I paid for them used then buy something different that's used and see what it's like before moving it on again.. all my boards are used except what I build myself.so the amount of boards I've had then sold is significantly higher.

i went through a phase where I didn't pay more than $150 for a board.

Perfect number of wave boards is always n+1

Neverrrrrrr

I don't understand the question.

Henners said..
This might be a bit of a confession "but forgive me I have sinned.... maybe"
When doing slalom I had three boards light wind, medium, and nuking.
Moving over to waves it seems to be a different story. Each board has its own traits, some plain easy, jump, turn hard ect ect.
For about 2 years I have been buying boards and I've currently amassed a small collection of 6 wave boards in total. For some that's a drop. I'm lucky enough to be able to see the wind reports and web cams near my spots so I have a basic idea of what to bring. Usually 2 boards and 3 sails.
Sometimes I'll think maybe I'll sell one and give it a final test before selling only to find I have a great session and it becomes my go to board. I've got a small board that only comes out once a year but it makes it all worth it.
I did sell a board last year and now regret doing it as it was a fast freewave board and at my skill level it really helped me get onto waves and I think a few more seasons would of helped me more than the boards I have.
For some it's a case of not a board problem but a space problem and I should built a shed but I can only carry so many boards in the car (yes I could get a van), only so many riding days.
How do you evaluate when to sell a board, keep a board, do you upgrade every couple of years? Interested to hear about how you deal with this addiction.
Currently broke so no more addiction

If a board (or a sail) works, don't sell it. You'll regret it in future.

Welcome to Gear Whoredom

jn1 said..

Henners said..
This might be a bit of a confession "but forgive me I have sinned.... maybe"
When doing slalom I had three boards light wind, medium, and nuking.
Moving over to waves it seems to be a different story. Each board has its own traits, some plain easy, jump, turn hard ect ect.
For about 2 years I have been buying boards and I've currently amassed a small collection of 6 wave boards in total. For some that's a drop. I'm lucky enough to be able to see the wind reports and web cams near my spots so I have a basic idea of what to bring. Usually 2 boards and 3 sails.
Sometimes I'll think maybe I'll sell one and give it a final test before selling only to find I have a great session and it becomes my go to board. I've got a small board that only comes out once a year but it makes it all worth it.
I did sell a board last year and now regret doing it as it was a fast freewave board and at my skill level it really helped me get onto waves and I think a few more seasons would of helped me more than the boards I have.
For some it's a case of not a board problem but a space problem and I should built a shed but I can only carry so many boards in the car (yes I could get a van), only so many riding days.
How do you evaluate when to sell a board, keep a board, do you upgrade every couple of years? Interested to hear about how you deal with this addiction.
Currently broke so no more addiction

If a board (or a sail) works, don't sell it. You'll regret it in future.

Welcome to Gear Whoredom

Ran out of space and implemented a one board in one board out rule. Very stupid.
I have some foil boards that, in parts, are worth more than selling, so now they take up space in a wardrobe. I was looking at one yesterday, thinking this could make a good windfoil. So I have not carnivored the parts.

After reading all the comments, it looks like I have a space problem rather than a board-hording problem. Thank you all for straightening that up. Time to build that underground bunker that I have always planned to have, doomsday prepping cause one day we will want to go back to the ocean.

Some things that I noticed from this forum are that there are no guarantees that a board for one person will work for another, a designer has a concept in mind and tries to implement it. Some of the issues could be

* rider's weight/height
* riders riding style
* rider's mindset (maybe not understanding how to ride the board)
* location conditions (waves, wind, water flow)
* board sail setup

There are some things that are absolute, like water will suck around a curve but will be channelled along straight lines.

For me, after my weight (90kg), I think riding conditions are very important. My spot often has waves but gusty conditions, so I really want a board that can get through the lulls without bearing away. Currently, I am still battling with the endless walking upwind. I am starting to understand that it is not all my problem, but rather board and sail selection. As I go out, I am usually facing a strong rolling swell; it's like a speed hump paired with lulls. Other 65kg riders don't seem to have this problem, as they seem to get through it all with ease. I know this because another one of our local spots that faces the same direction but has a marina wall protecting it does not have a large rolling swell, and there is no walking needed.
I also like a little jumping (bunny hopping), but I don't like how longer, wider-nosed boards jiggle around in the air (good technique might fix this).
After looking at this, I decided to get a 2022 100L UltraKode (218x63 tail 43.8). My concept and maybe the designers concept might meet. Then again, I might be stuck with a stubby board. It is on the way, so I have not tried it out. The season is almost over, so I might have to wait, and the purchase triggered me to write this thread.

Back to the point of the thread. Different boards for different conditions. Never have enough boards; there is space under the bed.

At least 2 for this location as 1 will always go over the rocks

I'm in Maui so.....some people here only have 1 board. Not me, I'm spoiled.. but also after 19 years I have a well defined and refined quiver.
I have winter (wave) boards, and summer (flat + B+J) boards, and switch out the boards in the van usually in May and October. I'm 88kilos.
Winter wave season, I use a float and ride 115l Quatro, a 99 l Q Pyramid for clean waves, an AV 92 windy waves, and a 83 Radical Quad for radical waves and side off windy. Summer flat season, I use a Thommen 104, a Thommen 97, a Thommen 93, and Thommen 83. Some of the boards were hand me downs, I didn't buy them all. I also use the Thommen 104 (Magic Board) in winter flat days, it planes early.
I find each board has a character and feel, and suits itself to specific conditions, I think I would get bored sailing the same board day after day. You wouldn't eat the same meal everyday, nor drink the same wine.
I also have 2 Windfoil boards, an Exocet 81 light wind, and a JP 105lt high wind foiling, used mostly in summer when tide is higher.
In Florida for vacation from the vacation, I also have an Exocet 81 Windfoil, a Seatrend Allstar 62 130l, a Fanatic 100l Skate, a Mistral 92 Twinser, and a Mistral 81 Razor. Like i said, a well defined and refined quiver.
First World Problems. Don't get me started on sails.

Gestalt said..
I have sinned so bad satan is at the gates..'

My take, There can never be too many boards there can only be too little storage space. for 2 people I have the below..

4 freestyle boards, 90l, 101l, 110l + 86l custom.
1 fsw board 125l
3 wave boards 81l, 87l + 135l custom
1 slalom - 138l

2 sups
2 longboards, Lt and OD

so I'm in the market for another slalom board or 2 and some bigger vol wave boards. Years ago I had a formula board and a 95lt wave board that covered everything. then I paired it down to one board which was a 125lt fsw board..always had a longboard. but hey.

so that one board quiver was all that I actually ever needed.but I got bored. Bought a board, bought another board before I know it I;m out of space.

i give boards away from time to time or sell them for what I paid for them used then buy something different that's used and see what it's like before moving it on again.. all my boards are used except what I build myself.so the amount of boards I've had then sold is significantly higher.

i went through a phase where I didn't pay more than $150 for a board.

Gestalt said..
I have sinned so bad satan is at the gates..'

My take, There can never be too many boards there can only be too little storage space. for 2 people I have the below..

4 freestyle boards, 90l, 101l, 110l + 86l custom.
1 fsw board 125l
3 wave boards 81l, 87l + 135l custom
4 wave boards 81l, 87l, 107lt, 135l custom
1 slalom - 138l

2 sups
2 longboards, Lt and OD

Gestalt said..

Gestalt said..
I have sinned so bad satan is at the gates..'

My take, There can never be too many boards there can only be too little storage space. for 2 people I have the below..

4 freestyle boards, 90l, 101l, 110l + 86l custom.
1 fsw board 125l
3 wave boards 81l, 87l + 135l custom
1 slalom - 138l

2 sups
2 longboards, Lt and OD

so I'm in the market for another slalom board or 2 and some bigger vol wave boards. Years ago I had a formula board and a 95lt wave board that covered everything. then I paired it down to one board which was a 125lt fsw board..always had a longboard. but hey.

so that one board quiver was all that I actually ever needed.but I got bored. Bought a board, bought another board before I know it I;m out of space.

i give boards away from time to time or sell them for what I paid for them used then buy something different that's used and see what it's like before moving it on again.. all my boards are used except what I build myself.so the amount of boards I've had then sold is significantly higher.

i went through a phase where I didn't pay more than $150 for a board.

Gestalt said..
I have sinned so bad satan is at the gates..'

My take, There can never be too many boards there can only be too little storage space. for 2 people I have the below..

4 freestyle boards, 90l, 101l, 110l + 86l custom.
1 fsw board 125l
3 wave boards 81l, 87l + 135l custom
4 wave boards 81l, 87l, 107lt + 135l custom
1 slalom - 138l

2 sups
2 longboards, Lt and OD

Owww no ...
What's your dimensions on the new board ?
135l wave board sounds interesting. Float and ride?

Gestalt said..
107 is an older used board in great condition. 221x65
135lt is a mini Simmons built like a surfboard with some extra patches and tri/quad box configuration. Woodies instead of hd foam. 232x68, looking at going 238x68

i'm gearing up for v2.. would like a little less volume in the tail. Not width but thickness. Maybe add 5cm to length to achieve a slightly pointier nose

Question with the 135l, when does increasing volume cease to make a difference?

I weigh 85kg and changed my f-n-r from 106l to 115. Not sure it planes any sooner, maybe a little bit.. the advantages are that its easier to keep moving in very light non planing conditions and you can stand stationary and hold your position while waiting for a set. I guess i could run a bigger sail but never go bigger than 5.3. So would any extra volume just be unnecessary weight and bulk?

AI.Dave said..

Gestalt said..
107 is an older used board in great condition. 221x65
135lt is a mini Simmons built like a surfboard with some extra patches and tri/quad box configuration. Woodies instead of hd foam. 232x68, looking at going 238x68

i'm gearing up for v2.. would like a little less volume in the tail. Not width but thickness. Maybe add 5cm to length to achieve a slightly pointier nose

Question with the 135l, when does increasing volume cease to make a difference?

I weigh 85kg and changed my f-n-r from 106l to 115. Not sure it planes any sooner, maybe a little bit.. the advantages are that its easier to keep moving in very light non planing conditions and you can stand stationary and hold your position while waiting for a set. I guess i could run a bigger sail but never go bigger than 5.3. So would any extra volume just be unnecessary weight and bulk?

Depends where you place the volume.. to far forward of the mast base and it makes the board less nimble because of swing weight so my personal opinion is higher volume boards can be shorter. More tail width and yes you definitely plane earlier you just need more v to counteract the width.... the balance need with tail width is the board becomes unstable when stalled or dredging because of to much rear volume compared to nose volume. So tacking is a problem. plus you need to be more aggressive taking off by stepping back a lot earlier then pumping to plane

sail size, sails with longer booms need longer track/fin cluster distance or there is a coe issue.. so going shorter suits kinda max 5.2-5.6 in my experience. Why 135lt. I was 115kg and wanted an easy uphaul if the wind died.. I've sailed the board in 5-10 knots. Lost about 15kg recently so keen to see what effect that has.

also, my board is higher density foam with 3 layers of fiberglass, rail stringer.. like full surfboard construction.. no sandwich. rocker is continuous no flat. board flexes in the turns and feels great, fast in a straight line keeps up with mates. Seems to prefer quad setup..

plugs are all in the foam no hd foam used.. woodies used for centre us box fin and mast track.

So it is a planing shape not a windSup?
I must admit I rather like my Exocet WindSUP 130L, it can plane but definitely doesn't feel small and the durability isn't great.
A board that rides closer to a real waveboard with it's light wind capability would be great.

The Exocet I have isn't really a Mal:
progressivesports.com/products/exocet-windsup-windsurf-board-carbon-windsurfing-board?variant=46499392061617&country=US¤cy=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&srsltid=AfmBOoret-5aAzfjRJ_-3VUiFlb0MixmcqWtjIUvwi0LPfN4H14f2bEJXHM

Mine is the 9'3" and if you were to cut off the step tail it's probably around 8'5"

But it definitely doesn't ride like a waveboard. Too wide I think and the deck is dead flat. Makes for a very easy board but I doubt I can get a bottom turn from it.

We have light wind side-on groundswell in the summer, perhaps shoulder high and that's what I use it for. Had one session and although it's very easy it's not exactly sporty.
I think I need more of a SUP mindset in terms of making it turn.