Does anyone remember using this old RRD Wassup, maybe called a stinger?
8'5"(256cm) x 31( 78.7cm) @135L
Last year, I sold my 22 Starboard Hypernut 5 in 1 (7'4" 115L). I just wasn't using it enough due to its small volume. I loved windsupping on it, but when it came to supping, it was just a comedy of falling off again and again. I'm currently using a '21 Quatro glide 8'8" 145L supping, it's great but lacks a lot when windsupping. I find I am always around the mast base area. It just lacks that dynamic feel when windsupping. I go into the waves (small crappy shore break), and when it's flat, I'll go for a paddle up the coast a little and come back.
In summer, the wind is lacking, so I would love to go to the beach with a surfboard or 2, a sup, a windsurfing rig, and a paddle. That way I'm covering my bases and can always do something.
Blowing the cobwebs off the old forums, it looks like it is a good board for windsupping, but some people found that over 85kg riders are a bit more technical (info from a French forum). I'm 92kg.
I think for windsupping it's going to be a bit of fun, but what do you all think about supping? Is the style too old fashioned ect....
Thank you all for your time.
Not sure what the question actually was, but 8' 5" seems short for windsupping.
But i'm far from expert and if it works go for it
Select to expand quoteNozza said..
Not sure what the question actually was, but 8' 5" seems short for windsupping.
But i'm far from expert and if it works go for it
Sorry, might have just spattered my thoughts onto the thread.
Previously used a 7'4" 115L for windsuping but had to have wind to keep going
Currently using 8'8" and could do it with no wind if needed
I think the board would be no problem for windsupping but I am not sure about supping.
Question(s) would be "has anyone tried this board or something similar, is the board on the old-fashioned side of a sup board, or maybe too much of a windsup, if you saw this kind of shape, how do you think it would perform in regards to supping?"
I have sailed and supped the RRD. It has sailboard rocker, so it will plane. It is plenty stable and sups better than one might think with the straight rocker. It helps to have good footwork and initially you will probably have more success with it in softer or smaller waves. As always it depends on which discipline is your priority. There are likely a couple more modern boards that would work, although with a slightly different sailing to surfing ratio. You would have to throw a mast insert in, but the infinity escape pod and a couple hipro longboards look they could work if you are okay with a strapless riding style.
Select to expand quoteHenners said..
but some people found that over 85kg riders are a bit more technical (info from a French forum). I'm 92kg.
A caveat: the average SUPer was less advanced some years ago. A board that was judged unstable on forums 10 years ago could be considered very stable nowadays.
I had the 10' RRD Wassup and tried a few other boards for sup and windsup.
The RRD was nice for windsup but really stiff for sup turns on waves. OTOH ohter SUPs with more surf oriented shapes/rockers and classic outlines need the stance you descibe when planing on a wave. Pure sailpowered planing felt terrible because they bog around climbing on their tailrocker, braking, re-accerlerating back on the tailrocker and so on.
Best compromisse i found are flat rockered Stubby shapes like your Hypernut was. I had a F-One Papenoo 7'11 which was ok in both applications sup and windsup, but after all a compromise in both worlds.
Now i have a Quatro Glide 8'6 which is more stable and surfs far better, than the former boards.
No more windsup for me though, since winging covers the lightwind days now.
Select to expand quoteAlexF said..
I had the 10' RRD Wassup and tried a few other boards for sup and windsup.
The RRD was nice for windsup but really stiff for sup turns on waves. OTOH ohter SUPs with more surf oriented shapes/rockers and classic outlines need the stance you descibe when planing on a wave. Pure sailpowered planing felt terrible because they bog around climbing on their tailrocker, braking, re-accerlerating back on the tailrocker and so on.
Best compromisse i found are flat rockered Stubby shapes like your Hypernut was. I had a F-One Papenoo 7'11 which was ok in both applications sup and windsup, but after all a compromise in both worlds.
Now i have a Quatro Glide 8'6 which is more stable and surfs far better, than the former boards.
No more windsup for me though, since winging covers the lightwind days now.
Sounds like it is either a big windsurfing board that can be supped, or a sup board with a mast base hole, which can kinda be windsurfed on or a middle of the road board. And this RRD that I am looking at seems to be a big windsurfing board.
Yeah, I like the Quatro Glide. I find I get through the shore break easily, surfing on a wave: I am just finding out now that I really have to move up and down the board to get it moving. Is it the newer version that is more rounded? I do like my 8'8", but I do wonder if I can go down a little bit in volume to 130L. I had a starboard converse '17 before (9'0 x 30" x 4.1" 142L) and actually found it very unstable so I went up in volume to the Glide but now I think it is more to do with the shape of the board than the volume. At 33" it give me alot more stability.
Has anyone tried the '22 8' Hypernut 5 in 1? Wondering if this might work @ 135L
I know this is not the correct forum, but what about ditching the sail and going for a wing? I only need the power to get out once on the wave; I can flag it out. Is there a very good chance of having to do the "walk of shame" with a wing sup? Can I stay upwind.... The body position having a wing in my hands would not require that large backward position when I have a windsurfing rig.
I wingfoil, WindSUP and windsurf.
A wing on a SUP would be awful, stick to the sail or get a paddle.
I had the 106 Hypernut and it wasn't great. Are you looking for a board that rides like a big windsurfing board or like a SUP with a sail?
Select to expand quoteGrantmac said..
I wingfoil, WindSUP and windsurf.
A wing on a SUP would be awful, stick to the sail or get a paddle.
I had the 106 Hypernut and it wasn't great. Are you looking for a board that rides like a big windsurfing board or like a SUP with a sail?
+1
I have the 2019 Quatro Glide 8'6, the more pointed nose shape.
For my 94 kg the 130 litres are enough for my stability even in slight chop. In stronger chop where i start to fall, the waves usually loose their quality anyway, at least at the spots where i wavesup.
Select to expand quoteGrantmac said..
I wingfoil, WindSUP and windsurf.
A wing on a SUP would be awful, stick to the sail or get a paddle.
I had the 106 Hypernut and it wasn't great. Are you looking for a board that rides like a big windsurfing board or like a SUP with a sail?
Trying to get away with packing the least amount of gear into the car to cover the biggest amount of conditions. Winter is fine as there is plenty of wind for windsurfing.
Summer (now) is the problem. Weather is harder to predict, so putting in foil gear, surfing gear, supping gear, and light wind windsurfing gear into and out of the car becomes a little bit tiresome.
If push comes to shove, then it's a big SUP with a sail attachment (which I have). Can always have a good time on a SUP, but I love windsurfing.
I still don't really understand board shapes enough to understand how the board will behave, still dazzled by the pretty colors. There is plenty of surfing videos talking about shaping, but windsurfing and sup boards I find hard to find.
I liked my previous 116L hypernut great for windsup, wing foiling, windfoiling, but for my local spot, it did not get much use (b/c shore break), so I was leaning more to a SUP but @ 116L I lack the skill to stay on.
Seems like if I did purchase the RRD board it would not get much use unless I could also happily SUP on it and from the sounds of it maybe it is not a great sup board.
