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evlPanda
evlPanda
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22 Oct 2008 12:06am
Gestalt said...

touche panda man great minds and all


1 minute apart.
The Grinch
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WA
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21 Oct 2008 9:22pm

To reduce you chances of being eaten by a shark by as much as 50% find a windsurfer who cant gybe.
Follow him everywhere and turn when he turns.
I've done this for years and NEVER been attacked by a shark. Enough proof I think!
Dawn Patrol
Dawn Patrol
WA
1991 posts
WA, 1991 posts
21 Oct 2008 10:52pm
I really really like sharks. I don't think there is a better adapted, more perfect hunter out there. To be honest, I think it would be a great experience to see a white pointer out whilst kiting ahh performing water activities. I might not seem like it at the time, but afterwards it would be.
I really don't think there is much to worry about with them. If they really wanted to eat people, there would be A LOT more fatalities.
Every time I see on a news website "Massive Killer Shark Horrifies Poor Little Kid" i feel sad towards them. The media constantly drills into peoples heads that sharks are out to get us. And most people tend to have a hate towards them.

An example, the Japs killing a few whales every year, massive public problems. Illegal fisherman killing 100,000,000 (a hundred million)+ sharks a year, and it seems few people give a dam.

When i went to check out the dead whale that washed up at Hillaries, i really went to see the shark bites. They were really quite amazing. I imagined the bites would be messy and chewed up. In fact, the cuts were soooooooo smooth and clean, it could have been a doctor with a scalpel.


If i were you guys, I'd feel really privileged (and really scarred) to have seen a white pointer. Possibly the coolest animal out there.
Wet Willy
Wet Willy
TAS
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22 Oct 2008 2:52am
NotWal said...

my shark story -

doggerel warning

The Kiter Girl - a talking blues

A shark was prowlin about the bay
Hadn’t eaten for a bunch of days
His guts were hangin out fer a feed
He was ravenous n kinda mean

Oh a jelly fish and a squid or two
Had blundered into his maw
But jellyfish is peppery mush
N the squid was chewy n raw

He had a lust for bleeding meat
A most delightful feller
He was in the mood for killing
When he glided into Wello

Then somethin bright flashed passed his eye
I think it was the right one
N the greedy glint in that beady eye
Was absolutely frightenin

So he stopped t hide n check it out
Like a true pelagic hoodlum
His every sense wus wire tense
He pumped his gills and flexed his pecs
His lorenzini sensor thingies
Felt every pico ampere
His lateral line wuz keenly primed
For the subtlest quiverin out there

And he wasn’t just yer average shark
Though any shark'd scare ya
If you saw him pass you’d cross yourself
N utter a silent prayer

He was pure evil incarnate
A sneaky grey assassin
The kinda sickenin dirty creep
That you wouldn’t turn yer back on

His evil started in the womb
When he ate up all his brothers
N his mother died n went t hell
To join her demon lover

And a frisson of fear hit every heart
In every livin creature.
Leavin a scar of innocence lost
Accordin to my teacher

And mothers held their children close
N whispered soothing lies
Something evil was abroad
And these were evil times


~-0-~


So he found an inconspicuous spot
N there he watched and waited
It wasn’t long before he saw
What he anticipated

The brilliant thing that caught his eye
Went flyin past again
Elizabeth Bate the kiter girl
Was dangling from a string

Ah ha he thought she’s nicely ripe
Mmm… I bet she’s tasty
It wont be long before she’ll be
My intimate acquaintance

But he didn’t know he’d picked a fight
With a pedagogic titan
Had he known her name he'd a thought again
N sought something else t bite on.

When he made his play that fateful day
That demon shark had blundered
He really shoulda just swum away
A critical misjudgement

What went down I can’t relate
You’d have to see to appreciate
The incredible skill of our Miss Bate
When she introduced him to his fate

Sharky found when she pinned him down
And tied him to a desk
I t was pencils down n hands away
N our Miss Bate knows best.

Elizabeth Bate though not well known
Will be famous ‘fore too long
She could educate the worst of the worst
N charm a beast with a song

She was versed in the occult quisenaire
And longhand cursive writing
And fer lots of things about teaching lore
Won bursaries and prizes

She took that shark from a to zed
And from one to ten again
And inculcated the ****in lot
Into his tiny brain

N when that shark was properly taught
N passed all his exams
He did a degree in philosophy
“I swim therefore I am”

Now ya might think it was foolish
N a dangerous state of affairs
T let that evil bastard free
To do his worst again

But no its not as it turns out
As lots of folks could tell ya
He’s educated n overpaid
In fact he’s now a lawyer

So the word got out and the legend spread
Through seas around the world
How the demon shark was broken by
That teacher kiter girl

And the dugong and the turtles sing
Mysterious and mellow
Of the terrible reign of the demon shark
That ended there at Wello

The fishes dance n frolic free
And Wellos more inviting
Cos sharks n rays stay far away
When Elizabeth Bate goes kiting







Um...I just read the whole damn thing and there was no sex, no real violence to speak of, no depraved thrills of any kind...do you think next time you could issue a warning beforehand?? I normally only read pornography and comic books, but this looked interesting...


Wet Willy
Wet Willy
TAS
2317 posts
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22 Oct 2008 2:59am
The Grinch said...


To reduce you chances of being eaten by a shark by as much as 50% find a windsurfer who cant gybe.
Follow him everywhere and turn when he turns.
I've done this for years and NEVER been attacked by a shark. Enough proof I think!



And as that windsurfer, I'd like to thank you for reducing my chances of being attacked by 25%...
dism
dism
NSW
660 posts
NSW, 660 posts
22 Oct 2008 2:06pm
aus301 said...

More chance of becoming a grease spot on a road somewhere on the way to the beach than getting eaten while you are there.


So true, but no one thinks twice about going for a drive. Probably about 10000times more likely too. Someone got actual figures? Probably close to the magnitude difference

As for the red 'shark deaths' symbols on Google, there isn't any ones for road deaths is there? You could probably omit the road track lines on google and use the road deaths points to form the road lines, but again sharks emit fear into our souls or whatever.

Need to think past the fear, and use logic. You aren't gunna get bitten by a shark, just like you're not gunna win lotto.

But not best to put yourself in the most possible chance of having a car crash, just like not best to swim in muddy, night real sharky areas

Leech
Leech
WA
1933 posts
WA, 1933 posts
22 Oct 2008 11:28am
NotWal said...

my shark story -

doggerel warning

etc.



That was awesome. I even LOLed
westhammer
westhammer
WA
507 posts
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22 Oct 2008 1:29pm
A 5 hour swim back with a bloody nose would increase your chances of bein chomped on, like driving at night with the lights off
Bayblaster
Bayblaster
VIC
122 posts
VIC, 122 posts
22 Oct 2008 10:06pm
Statistically your more likely to die being hit by a car crossing the road or an allergic bee sting, this is based on number of people killed every year V number killed by shark attack.
But the odds change for the worse as soon as you enter the sharks habitat, the statistics stay the same and apply just as much to the person watching you on the beach who has got no chance of being eaten.


Ellobuddha
Ellobuddha
NSW
625 posts
NSW, 625 posts
22 Oct 2008 10:39pm
The biggest fear about a shark attack is that we THINK we are at the top of the food chain.

No-one likes to hve to realise that there are plenty of animals out there that can knock off a human as quick as..... I also remember hearing somewhere that more humans killed by falling coconuts. Its a wonder we havent burnt even coconut palm to the ground as well.

I think a healthy respect and knowledge that we play in their domain is the answer. Plus it also can up the adrenaline levels a fair bit which is pretty good.

This is a guy from down my way about 2 years ago. real nice guy and sooo lucky. Where they dive, no way would I sail. Best time of year for GWS down here. Couple in the bay every year. Reports of one hitting a seal only a couple of weeks ago in front of some tourists - though not confirmed.

Gotta improve waterstarts before I just stay bobbing around in the bay like a injured seal.

Have a look at this - the Dave Letterman show interview was better, no b.s. graphics and wrong names for locals.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=2503081n
Zed
Zed
WA
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23 Oct 2008 4:41pm
Well the spot out near Hillarys used to be packed on a good summers day (30 sailors out) but since that guy got munched a few years ago at Cott you're lucky if you get 10 out! So I'd be getting concerned if the biteys buggered off! Almost a symbiotic relationship if you like, they need us for food and we need them to keep the crowds away :)
easty
easty
TAS
2213 posts
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23 Oct 2008 8:03pm
Ellobuddha said...



This is a guy from down my way about 2 years ago. real nice guy and sooo lucky. Where they dive, no way would I sail. Best time of year for GWS down here. Couple in the bay every year. Reports of one hitting a seal only a couple of weeks ago in front of some tourists - though not confirmed.

Have a look at this - the Dave Letterman show interview was better, no b.s. graphics and wrong names for locals.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=2503081n


Holey moley, they moved Eden to South Aust.! And Cape Howe!.
But yeah, when I lived in Mallacoota most of my mates were ab divers or deckies, and full respect to the guys in the water!

Ellobuddha
Ellobuddha
NSW
625 posts
NSW, 625 posts
23 Oct 2008 8:58pm
Its a really different place at the Cape. I killed myself laughing at the map and they got all the peoples names wrong as well. The Dave Letterman show was much better as it was a lot more of Eric explaining what happened.
aus301
aus301
QLD
2039 posts
QLD, 2039 posts
23 Oct 2008 9:42pm
Ellobuddha said...

I also remember hearing somewhere that more humans killed by falling coconuts. Its a wonder we havent burnt even coconut palm to the ground as well.


I read recently that this is a statistic that was manipulated by an insurance company in the UK for something to do with travel insurance and is not entirely correct. For their purpose they also included trees being uprooted and many other variables...but that is way off topic.


dism
dism
NSW
660 posts
NSW, 660 posts
24 Oct 2008 2:09pm
Dunno about the coconuts

But i've heard that statistically the most dangerous animal is the horse, but on one thinks twice about man-killing horses do they?

And hippos kill way more people then sharks
And bees

Scared of those?

I think we gotta respect the sharks
But not let fear drive us to crazyness, otherwise i'll be handing out bubblewrap and we can all live in a no-threatening environment
Dawn Patrol
Dawn Patrol
WA
1991 posts
WA, 1991 posts
24 Oct 2008 11:59am
Zed said...
Almost a symbiotic relationship if you like, they need us for food and we need them to keep the crowds away :)


Apparently sharks don't actually eat people. We are bad for their digestive system. Too much muscle/bone, not enough fat.
The kid down south that got his leg taken, they found it washed up on the beach a few days later. They just spit us out.
They say that they just "test" us. Its just so happens that a 16ft white pointer takes a pretty big "test" bite.

(Apart from bull sharks, which seem to actually be evil).
DavMen
DavMen
NSW
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24 Oct 2008 3:35pm






Lucky they put a saftey fence around it! , you may have accidently triped over it as you where walking down the beach.
Greenroom
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WA
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24 Oct 2008 4:24pm
DavMen said...







Lucky they put a saftey fence around it! , you may have accidently triped over it as you where walking down the beach.

Tripped over what?
wormy
wormy
QLD
679 posts
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24 Oct 2008 6:37pm
Greenroom said...

DavMen said...







Lucky they put a saftey fence around it! , you may have accidently triped over it as you where walking down the beach.

Tripped over what?


The crocodile laying on its back sunbathing its belly whilst having a snack.

NotWal
NotWal
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7436 posts
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25 Oct 2008 12:46am
wormy said...

Greenroom said...

DavMen said...







Lucky they put a saftey fence around it! , you may have accidently triped over it as you where walking down the beach.

Tripped over what?


The crocodile laying on its back sunbathing its belly whilst having a snack.




I thought it was a tea tree with fins. That's curious. What would a tea tree want with fins?
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