No mate, you still dont get it. So the natural unspoilt beauty is only there for your personal pleasure to use as you choose. Cmon mate.

Gestalt said...

no, i get it.

what you see as a featureless nothing space i see as natural unspoilt beauty.

My initial reaction was wtf - is this a joke? and you now what? that initial reaction is still the same reaction I have every time I look at that video.

Stick it in a marina or a man made lake - not the ocean!!!

Haha what a silly idea to put it in the ocean, if it was in the middle of a city or some type of main area it would make sense. But randomly in the sea.... It would be fun to see a kiter go threw that jet of water though. If this is to go ahead will you be able to go near it or will it be fenced off and under security. If it sounds as powerful as what it needs to be that would be awesome to jump into it and get shot up into the air!!

Tks Simon, we are mostly on the same page. The jet is proposed to be located at the shark nets which are already marked with buoys and in an exclusion zone.
Mate, I know many wont like it and you are entitled to your view. Others are also entitled to theirs.
Anyhow mate, this whole process was meant to stimulate discussion and thanks genuinely for your input and that of the other guys.
Time for me to move on.
Rgds
Rossco

Simon100 said...

Rossco4215 said...

Simon, what fake comments on u-tube, tell me. Your presence in the broadwater or the sea with a coloured sail will have more impact than this jet.
Lets not deal with the whole jetski issue of noise, danger, accidents, irresponsibility etc. etc. Yes, I know the idiots are a small minority who ruin it for the responsible sports guys.
Explain ur problem, that is precisely why this idea was put out there but I cant deal with issues if u wont tell me what they are or they are just illogical.
Rgds
Rossco

Simon100 said...

Check out the fake comments for it on youtube . I dont think there will be enough people that think this is a good idea for it to happen luckily .

4 comments from the same person 3 acting independent and saying how nice it is , one apologizing for the video being down . You obviously like it and thats great it doesnt mean every one else will like it dont take offense at that like if it was in your back yard no one would care but i think alot of people on here dont want to see it when they go to the beach . Remember if it did ever happen it will have 4 big yellow markers around it to mark the water hazard wind exactly be real elegant then will it .

^^^

Yeah, right on Carantoc +1 from me

Carantoc, Thanks for your input but it is negativtity like this that holds the world back. I don't really understand your argument or what you are trying to say.

I suppose we must expect to have to live with idiots, who have nothing constructive to say.

If you can't see the vision, and jhave nothing intelligent to add please shut up and go away.

My daughter painted a picture of a rainbow giraffe. It was a great visual concept. A giraffe, that was rainbow colours. Come -on get on board.

She is 3. She will be 4 when it is her next birthday.

Making a feature to represent something that is 'featureless'. That makes sense.
Why not take it to the next level and build an air geyser to pay tribute to the 'nothingness' of air?

http://theicongeyser.com/

The website for the apparent attraction that William (Bill) Ross wants to leave the Gold Coast as his legacy but is paid for by local business etc. I thought the video claimed there were no costs.

And the diagram of the proposed setup:


Oh and they also have their bank account details listed incase you want to make a donation towards this project

Also against it - would much rather just watch the ocean and listen to its natural sounds.

Befree001 said...

http://theicongeyser.com/

The website for the apparent attraction that William (Bill) Ross wants to leave the Gold Coast as his legacy but is paid for by local business etc. I thought the video claimed there were no costs.

And the diagram of the proposed setup:


Oh and they also have their bank account details listed incase you want to make a donation towards this project

Also against it - would much rather just watch the ocean and listen to its natural sounds.

I couldn't see where it said who would pay for it. It just said it wouldn't cost.

One can only assume the implication is that local business will pay, or perhaps a single benefactor for some reason.

If it is business they won't do it for nothing. They will want their advertising up in lights. So, a giant laser illuminated billboard sat in the ocean.

A giant plume of spounting jizzum on the Goldy - I can only assume Viagra would be the number 1 advertiser.

Rossco4215 said...

Mate - you dont get it do you. If I put the jet into the urban highrise area, it would be lost, un-noticed in the busy highrise but when I put something into the nothing space of ocean, it cant be missed by anyone.

Gestalt said...

well the video says, "there is an enormous contrast between the busyness of the city and the vast expanse of the featureless ocean.

if you believe that replicating the busyness and bulk of the city in the ocean is a good thing then more power to you.

Rossco4215 said...

Hi Gestalt. I'm an old fart but The Icon Geyser is my project. This jet celebrates the very thing you love, the ocean. Some news for u - many of the guys who build the digital jet and constructed the vid are all young and into a variety of surf sports. They all work on the Goldie and I've given them work and wages in the last few weeks. Love ur havin some fun with it and gotta get my cat one of those hats but with ear holes - Coles or Woollies?
Listen to the opening of the vid, it says that compared to the busyness of the city with cars, highrise, roads etc. etc. the ocean is flat, calm, featureless but not always. The "bloody offensive" hardly necessary. Lotsa workmates in my staffroom all surfers and I support their causes.
Rgds
Rossco4215

Gestalt said...

me thinks whoever made this video is not really a water person. how is the ocean featureless. bloody offensive idea really

Actually ROSCO4215..YOU dont get it. Why would you want to put a bloody fountain in the ocean. The ocean has many moods, features ......although somehow you missed them, like waves, currents, sand bars, noise, changes and variations in colour, marine life etc....ohhh and the occasional water spout that nature seems quite good at doing by itself.
We do not need a false icon of the ocean beauty, what we need if for people to appreciate the environment they live in so as they truly see the beauty in it.
Am I progress forward in the world...absolutely. However, are we truly that shallow in our minds and evolution that the need for lights and 45 minutes of WOW factor is needed in this world...come on people, please think forward.

As for your comments on your website
" It will generate its own power and be environmentally clean."
Perhaps you could explain how this will occur.
How will you generate the large amount of power required. Make no mistake my background in 25years in this field as a specialist so I am VERY interested on how you propose, based on the comments it will be "environmentally clean"..
How will you maintain this in an environmental way??
As for construction....are you going to tell me that this will no impact on the environment, during or after construction!!!!

How about
Navigational hazard
Erosion hazard of structure and sub surface pipe line
Changes to the shore line due to natural wave function changing
Wind affecting the curtain that you intend to display lights on
Environmental issues.... micro environment due to a un-natural structure placed in the ocean.
Vandalism
NOISE........ ohhh yes it will be noisey


I could go on but shall not...
I will thank Gestalt for bringing this to our attention.

Climber

And the diagram of the proposed setup:

Thanks for that, it explains things nicely.

I must admit I felt relief when I saw the big spelling mistake on the diagram, you had me worried there for a bit. The preparation for the 1st of April release is going well I see

The Captain James Cook Memorial on Lake Burley Griffin in Canberra includes a water jet:

"The water jet is powered by two 560 kilowatt electric motors driving four stage centrifugal pumps capable of pumping up to 250 litres per second against a head of 183 meters. The water velocity at the water nozzle is 260 km/h.

While running both pumps simultaneously the main jet throws approximately six tons of water into the air at any instant, reaching a maximum height of 147 metres."

Surely this is a more appropriate place for colonic hydrotherapy. [}:)]

Much lulz at the smart state What a terrible idea [}:)]

K Dog said...

Much lulz at the smart state

the "self proclaimed" smart state by the way i think they were being sarcastic