Mistral are looking at bringing out a new Equipe which might be the answer. Possibly a modern replica of the Mistral Equipe II XR to be made at Cobra using the original moulds. I suggested to Mistral that there was no point in competing with Raceboard top boards as they are an arms race but like surfing sales can be achieved in traditional retro gear which sees market uptake. As I also suggested to Mistral it is also important the board be from the design stable of the late Harold Iggy as I believe the EII was as this design pedigree provides important heritage. This could be a suitable Olympic longboard provided they make it slightly more expensive than the Windsurfer LT (already in the Mistral range) but less than a typical raceboard. The goal is to be light, durable and cheap. Alternatively if the moulds exist the Equipe III might be adopted and much depends on what moulds exist.
Could they make it 2 piece so able to travel with it.
I guess they could provide a travel model similar to the Pope Bisect surfboard but that would effect its structural integrity, stiffness and increase cost. (surfwatersports.com/harbour_banana_pope_bisect_travel_surfboard_2_piece_signed_rich_harbour_9_8.php and www.ridershack.com/used-95-pope-bisect-longboard-surfboard.html) The charter and club model would be better where you leave the longboard at the sailing club and charter boards at interstate and overseas regattas eliminating travel issues and also so you don't need a serial killer style model of van to drive around in locally.
The RSX was awful to sail. It's very heavy & sailed like a dog in light wind. You needed to be strong, quite light & supremely fit to do well. To my mind it was not as engaging to sail as a raceboard or now the iq foil.
Let's see what happens with the kids sailing the iqfoil. Unfortunately, they really need to be in Europe now competing in big fleets & then in regattas here sailing against each other & getting the best coaching. Tricky at the moment.
The AS criteria makes it very hard to have an Olympic rep given the popularity of board sailing in Europe and Asia.
The RSX was awful to sail. It's very heavy & sailed like a dog in light wind. You needed to be strong, quite light & supremely fit to do well. To my mind it was not as engaging to sail as a raceboard or now the iq foil.
Let's see what happens with the kids sailing the iqfoil. Unfortunately, they really need to be in Europe now competing in big fleets & then in regattas here sailing against each other & getting the best coaching. Tricky at the moment.
The AS criteria makes it very hard to have an Olympic rep given the popularity of board sailing in Europe and Asia.
I have also heard that the IMCO could beat the RSX in race conditions many times. I guess Tom you are doing racefoiling already, but the best advice to anyone into racefoiling and wanting Australia to do well in the Olympic windfoiling is to buy a Starboard iQFoil or TAHE Techno Windfoil 130 or other racing one design windfoil board for you and your family. Then join your local sailing club and promote racing windfoils. That will create fleets in clubs and give rise to uptake of senior and junior racers who can race and compete locally and then ultimately globally. That is how the Laser works in Australia and also other classes and they have the same AS criteria.
The LT,s current 5.7 rig would limit it as a super lightweight only board at the olympics.
Only if they didn't also adopt the weight classes that Windsurfer Racing is based on.
Fastest guys at the LT worlds were about 76-78 kg; the world's #1 ranked RSX sailor was there and won course racing and scored 2nd in slalom and marathon. However, the LT's bid for the Olympics was a tongue in cheek way to get publicity. If it was selected many windsurfers would scream so hard that it would be bad for the sport, IMHO.
Dunno how the $10k IQ Foil will get club fleets like the Laser. A new Laser costs more but the class relies on the vast numbers of cheaper boats out there to get critical mass, and the vast numbers of people who sail it just for club racing and not for speed or for the Olympics. There's not many IQ Foils out there and it could suffer from the same chicken and egg problem as the RSX; you don't get lots of people buying cheap used boards until you get club fleets, but you don't get club fleets until you get lots of people buying cheap used boards. And what sort of club fleets do you get if you can't race in light and fluky winds?
At least the IQ Foil has the advantage that it represents a mainstream branch of windsurfing better than the RSX, and perhaps the IMCO, did.
Even Raceboard class was at a low ebb towards the end of the period when the IMCO was in the Olympics, because the Olympians are soooooo damn good (on the gear they are used to) they are depressing to race against.
Dunno how the $10k IQ Foil will get club fleets like the Laser.
There are a lot of youth kits/youth fleets out on the east coast of the U.S. Not super common but I've run into them, and the youth kits are a little bit cheaper. Some are also going windsurf->freeride slingshot gear->IQ (youth or senior)
Dunno how the $10k IQ Foil will get club fleets like the Laser.
There are a lot of youth kits/youth fleets out on the east coast of the U.S. Not super common but I've run into them, and the youth kits are a little bit cheaper. Some are also going windsurf->freeride slingshot gear->IQ (youth or senior)
Maybe, but given the population of the east coast, does that mean there's enough out there to create big club fleets like the Laser has?
RSX is/was an awful design used only by Olympians and hopefuls.
Raceboard has some popularity but mostly among older folks.
Even with zero used market and being released alongside lots of other foiling gear the IQFoil is being sailed purely for recreation by plenty of folks.
The Olympic sailing community got it right with the IQ.
The Olympic sailing community got it right with the IQ.
In respect to what? ..... performance, entertainment, cost, accessibility, transport etc etc?. Just saying they "got it right" isn't really saying much at all. I am not saying they got it wrong either, but for here in Aus (and this thread is about Aussie Olympians) I wonder if it will change the status quo much.
If anything racing a foil is harder to do than racing the other windsurf classes, foils won't solve our problem, just changing gear won't solve our problem, nice if that was the magic bullet but its not.
We need those grass roots fleets of "centreboard classes" at weekend club racing to be the feeder. I am guessing all the best Olympic windsurfing nation's have that. Its what Australia has with other sailing classes and overall Australia kicks arse at Olympic sailing, just not the windsurfing.
Why we don't have any Olympians is not a discussion around the Olympic gear in my opinion.
The Olympic sailing community got it right with the IQ.
Why we don't have any Olympians is not a discussion around the Olympic gear in my opinion.
Agree, the equipment debate is a moot point now as it is selected through the world sailing tender process.
Also agree that developing the grass roots sailors is key.
The other aspect is the AS selection process for windsurfing.
Is it in line with other countries, or is windsurfing a lower priority in AS selection compared to other classes?
if the selection process is not transparent and understood, we could be here in 2024 asking the same question again.
Maybe the organisation to ask why Olympic windsurfing has failed in Australia is the Australian Windsurfing Association ? Their main role is to generate sail number registers and procure insurance but it seems to promote class racing has not been effective nor their focus. They are affiliated with AS and a broad church which possibly makes the organisation's architecture ill suited to promote any class. Of course the health and vitality of Windsurfer Class and Bic Techno racing fleets for example is because of the great boards and the willingness of clubs and sailors to join clubs and race these craft in clubs which leads to better participation and racing. RSX failed in Australia will iQFoil do better ?
The Olympic sailing community got it right with the IQ.
Why we don't have any Olympians is not a discussion around the Olympic gear in my opinion.
Agree, the equipment debate is a moot point now as it is selected through the world sailing tender process.
Also agree that developing the grass roots sailors is key.
The other aspect is the AS selection process for windsurfing.
Is it in line with other countries, or is windsurfing a lower priority in AS selection compared to other classes?
if the selection process is not transparent and understood, we could be here in 2024 asking the same question again.
As someone who sails most types of craft (ie dinghies, yachts, cats and windsurfers), runs a club, has run a class and had a little bit to do with AS on the windsurfing side years ago, I'd say that windsurfing's priority in AS is pretty reasonable. We're not a high priority, but that's because we are a very small part of the scene, and we don't do much for ourselves compared to what the dinghy sailors do, for example. Dinghy sailors spend huge amounts of time training kids and running the clubs that do the training. Yachties are treated fairly badly but then again, they don't spend as much time training new sailors as the dinghy sailors do, and they hoover up the dinghy kids. Cat sailors don't do much training either, and then wonder why their numbers are small.
In my experience, contrary to what many people think, the yachties are generally treated worse by AS than any other group.
Several years ago Jo Sterling qualified Australia for the Olympics in RSX. But, because she wasn't top ten in the world, Australian Sailing didn't enter her in the Games. Not a good enough chance to get a medal. I thought that sucked...What motivation does a windsurfer have if you can train for years, compete in world class events in Europe, work your guts out to qualify your Country, only to be knocked back by Australian Sailing......
Several years ago Jo Sterling qualified Australia for the Olympics in RSX. But, because she wasn't top ten in the world, Australian Sailing didn't enter her in the Games. Not a good enough chance to get a medal. I thought that sucked...
I agree but apparently that is the same for any sailor ie top ten is not even good enough. It is top 5 in the world ie a medal chance. If you look whenever Australia sent people to Windglider, Lechner, Mistral or RSX they were always medal chances. Now we have no medal chances and the prospects dropped off a lot when we had RSX. The reasons for that are the ones which should be considered. If we have big iQFoil fleets racing in clubs around Australia, then Australian prospects in the Olympics will be healthy. RSX did not achieve that. iQFoil is $15k and RSX was around $11K. From experience I know windsurfers don't like joining clubs but that is the engine room of Olympic sailing. A lot of work is needed and it will be up to those who want to race and support growth of windfoils. It starts at club level. Every Windsurfer LT or Bic Techno or raceboard sailor is part of the growth that supports this and when you join a club that has windsurfing racing it feeds into the windsurfing/windfoiling continuum. 20 iQFoil sailors in each state joining their local club is the way forward. This should be the goal of AWA. What is the AWA goal ? What support can AWA offer ?
I agree but apparently that is the same for any sailor ie top ten is not even good enough. It is top 5 in the world ie a medal chance. If you look whenever Australia sent people to Windglider, Lechner, Mistral or RSX they were always medal chances. Now we have no medal chances and the prospects dropped off a lot when we had RSX. The reasons for that are the ones which should be considered. If we have big iQFoil fleets racing in clubs around Australia, then Australian prospects in the Olympics will be healthy. RSX did not achieve that. iQFoil is $15k and RSX was around $11K. From experience I know windsurfers don't like joining clubs but that is the engine room of Olympic sailing. A lot of work is needed and it will be up to those who want to race and support growth of windfoils. It starts at club level. Every Windsurfer LT or Bic Techno or raceboard sailor is part of the growth that supports this and when you join a club that has windsurfing racing it feeds into the windsurfing/windfoiling continuum. 20 iQFoil sailors in each state joining their local club is the way forward. This should be the goal of AWA. What is the AWA goal ? What support can AWA offer ?
Good questions. Would be great to get AWA response to them.
As far I know, Australia has little or no representation in professional level windsurfing racing on the world stage either. We have had some high level representation in the past and those people were likely Olympic contenders. I think it speaks to the lack of interest in any kind of windsurfing racing in Australia. (WindsurferOD excepted
)
But the issue of qualification for the Olympics is a sore point with me. IMHO, anyone who meets the qualifying standards should be sent automatically, even if they have to pay their own way! It is shameful that the Olympics has become a quest for Medals only, which is not what it started out being all about. In fact, i don't think there should be any such things a 'Qualifying Standards" Any country should be able to send any competitors they consider their best, regardless of their world standing. This was always to me the whole idea behind the Olympics!
And I am very ambivalent about 'windsurfing' being in the Olympics at all as a 'sailing' class. perhaps there is enough interest in the so called 'Olympic' windsurfing classes in some other parts of the world to justify it, but I am not really convinced.
BYW. I met some of the fantastic and dedicated young girls and boys in the Olympics sailing squad , training at Mooloolaba last month. (Nacra, 49'er, and maybe 470?). They all seemed like great representatives for our country and I wish them all the best. ![]()
I agree but apparently that is the same for any sailor ie top ten is not even good enough. It is top 5 in the world ie a medal chance. If you look whenever Australia sent people to Windglider, Lechner, Mistral or RSX they were always medal chances. Now we have no medal chances and the prospects dropped off a lot when we had RSX. The reasons for that are the ones which should be considered. If we have big iQFoil fleets racing in clubs around Australia, then Australian prospects in the Olympics will be healthy. RSX did not achieve that. iQFoil is $15k and RSX was around $11K. From experience I know windsurfers don't like joining clubs but that is the engine room of Olympic sailing. A lot of work is needed and it will be up to those who want to race and support growth of windfoils. It starts at club level. Every Windsurfer LT or Bic Techno or raceboard sailor is part of the growth that supports this and when you join a club that has windsurfing racing it feeds into the windsurfing/windfoiling continuum. 20 iQFoil sailors in each state joining their local club is the way forward. This should be the goal of AWA. What is the AWA goal ? What support can AWA offer ?
Good questions. Would be great to get AWA response to them.
Call your reps, tell them you think building club racing should be a goal, while your there ask them what you can do and how you can help to make that happen.
Here's the contact details
www.windsurfing.org/contacts.htm
IMHO, anyone who meets the qualifying standards should be sent automatically, even if they have to pay their own way!
It's a funding issue. Sailing has had a very good athlete to medal ratio for some time. (we bring back a lot of medals for a small amount of athletes sent), so the funding keeps flowing in to YA for the next years. Start sending windsurfers who don't win and it skews the stats... bit insane to me as well, but thems the breaks.
My thoughts have always been that
1) nobody wins Gold at their first Olympics
2) you can't win Gold without experience from previous Olympics.
So start sending windsurfers so they can be mentally ready for their 2nd Games and go for medals!!
I hope the road has got a lot better nowadays. I tried for Beijing in 2008. Australia qualified for this Olympics but sent no-one as we weren't Top 6 at the Worlds. I was repeatedly by multiple coaches I should quit the whole time I was doing it (great motivators - ha!). I eventually quit it and went and did the PWA for 10 years. happy days :)
My BIGGEST beef with the whole system is the split organisation. YA looks after triangle racing and WIndsurfing Australia looks after all other racing. Thus having a fractured development program for any individuals that want to sail. Unless it's changed
as I got out awhile back.
Several years ago Jo Sterling qualified Australia for the Olympics in RSX. But, because she wasn't top ten in the world, Australian Sailing didn't enter her in the Games. Not a good enough chance to get a medal. I thought that sucked...
I agree but apparently that is the same for any sailor ie top ten is not even good enough. It is top 5 in the world ie a medal chance. If you look whenever Australia sent people to Windglider, Lechner, Mistral or RSX they were always medal chances. Now we have no medal chances and the prospects dropped off a lot when we had RSX. The reasons for that are the ones which should be considered. If we have big iQFoil fleets racing in clubs around Australia, then Australian prospects in the Olympics will be healthy. RSX did not achieve that. iQFoil is $15k and RSX was around $11K. From experience I know windsurfers don't like joining clubs but that is the engine room of Olympic sailing. A lot of work is needed and it will be up to those who want to race and support growth of windfoils. It starts at club level. Every Windsurfer LT or Bic Techno or raceboard sailor is part of the growth that supports this and when you join a club that has windsurfing racing it feeds into the windsurfing/windfoiling continuum. 20 iQFoil sailors in each state joining their local club is the way forward. This should be the goal of AWA. What is the AWA goal ? What support can AWA offer ?
Other sailors were selected for Rio that weren't Top 10 - Laser women and Finn. They were sent discretionarily. Jo missed out as did the 49er Fx. There were political reasons. Jo's board was on the way to Rio but something fishy happened. Rumour has had that AS didn't want to send the Fx women as they had bucked the system and Jo was 'collateral damage' as I have been told.
This is what makes it so hard - the unfairness of it. They wanted her to try again for Tokyo but she was told by the high performance manager that she would need to relocate full-time to Europe and quote: "no career, no boyfriend". Totally unacceptable and some of the things that happened to her were on a similar scale to the issues currently in swimming. I won't elaborate here.
No wonder she has gone onto to do her masters, is a psychologist, has bought a house and is now setting up a business to teach kinds with ADHD to surf. Windsurfing and AS's loss.
She does get out on the IQ foil for fun. But feels that Europe are already so far in front and competing against each other in large fleets, that it will be very hard for Aus to get up to speed. Aus also need to abandon their current model of selecting the top couple of sailors and sending them to Europe. With covid, this model may prove to be difficult. They should focus on developing big fleets here but they are already funnelling it all down to a few.
We have some issues to overcome:
* We have a small population with pockets of people spaced very far apart. This makes it expensive and time consuming to compete.
* Very few windsurfing instructors (only at a handful of clubs). This makes it hard to find somewhere to learn to windsurf.
* Most windsurfers (my guess is 95%) don't go to yacht clubs (slalom sailors, GPS, free riders, wavesailors etc) and their kids (a good source for a youth fleet) have not spent time at the yacht clubs either.
* The Australian Sailing Performance Director fired our National Windsurfing coach (Max) just before the Youth Olympics (and he had been developing beginner youth competition along the east coast as well as training those competing internationally). The coach was the central coordinating point for youth development. He also helped connect the AWA with AS.
This sent a message of the lack of interest of Australian Sailing in windsurfing. Their attitude has always been that if the other sailing classes have succeeded, then windsurfing should have succeeded in the same way (implying that AS doesn't think it should put in much effort to nurture the sport). They obviously don't understand how long it takes to develop a youth class. The coach was fired without consultation with any windsurfers or discussion with the coach himself and without knowing what had been achieved or what was planned.
* It is unreasonable to expect an athlete to fund themselves to the extent necessary to get to the Olympics. Fund raising is difficult to do and an athlete really needs others to do it for them so they can concentrate on what they do best.
* It is unreasonable to expect that the only way an athlete will be good enough to compete internationally is to give up their home, family and friends and somehow fund themselves to live in Europe for more than 6 months of every year, beg to be included in another country's training squad and give up all hope of having a career or a relationship. If Australian Sailing give the athletes this message, it can be no surprise that it is hard to find people willing (and able) to do this. Particularly when you realise that after years of training and giving up everything else in life, a small injury or illness (or only ranking 6th in the world) can end all your hopes of going to the Olympics.
* Many aspiring athletes have seen how Australian Sailing have treated prior Olympic hopefuls.
* Australian Sailing need to offer Windsurfing and Kitesurfing instruction at most of their clubs (wherever suitable) since they are the organisation responsible for the Olympic pathway for these sports. They need to offer boards to learn on for hire.
* To do well at international level without needing to live overseas, we need to hold competitions in Australia. We need a large fleet to be able to do this effectively (that is to provide strong competition at home to make our athletes stronger). We can't just rely on having a couple of great windsurfers to send to the Olympics. The one windsurfer who is sent to the Olympics needs to have a dozen other Australian windsurfers to train with so that they push each other to become world class. Also all our hopes don't rest on one or two people who could drop out due to unforeseen circumstances.
* Australian Sailing need to commit to sending our best windsurfers and kitesurfers to the Olympics regardless of their medal chances. This will inspire and give hope to kids who are interested in aiming for the Olympics. It is outrageous that a wealthy country like Australia cannot afford to send athletes in every sport we qualify to do so. It is hard enough to gain Olympic qualification for your country and inexcusable that we only send someone if we think they can win. What happened to the Olympic Spirit?
As the Olympic Creed says: "The most important thing in the Olympic Games is not to win but to take part, just as the most important thing in life is not the triumph but the struggle. The essential thing is not to have conquered but to have fought well." Well Australian Sailing doesn't think so.
On the positive side:
* For our small population, we have a good amount of windsurfers (and they are very talented. eg it is amazing that Jo Stirling for example was able to qualify Australia and rank so high in the world with very few windsurfers to train with and very little support from AS).
* The IQ already has the largest youth fleet participation Australia has had in decades
* RQ in Brisbane has great volunteers and windsurfing instructors
* Qld, NSW and WA have strong youth fleets developing (and some great coaches)
* IQ seems to be inspiring youth all over the world (about 260 kids have entered the upcoming IQ youth worlds)
An idea for getting more windsurfing instructors:
Currently it costs thousands to become a windsurfing instructor (first aid certificate, powerboat handling course and windsurfing instructor's course). There is little opportunity to work with seasoned instructors to gain experience and few clubs have jobs available for qualified instructors.
Since we need to attract a lot of new windsurfing instructors to train large fleets and have them at every yacht club (like the other classes do), Aus Sailing could offer free training in exchange for their commitment to pay the cost back by instructing for a set number of hours in the clubs where they are needed in return (eg one Saturday per month until repaid after which they can start to be employed).
We should aim for 3-4 windsurfing instructors in every club. We need to grow the capacity of clubs to provide windsurfing instruction to many more kids. This way it could start to be seen by parents as a Saturday morning sporting option where they can drop off the kids and pick them up some hours later.
Clubs can promote/advertise windsurfing lessons because they know they have the capacity to do this. AS should encourage/coorinate this and provide financial support/incentives. They should subsidise the clubs to buy a few boards to start off with. They should promote the learn to windsurf programmes at the yacht clubs so each club doesn't need to duplicate resources to advertise and develop their programmes.
Otherwise we cannot expect windsurfing to achieve the same results as the other sailing classes. Windsurfing has not had the same level of support over many decades by the same wealthy yacht clubs and families as the other boat classes have had. The yacht clubs have been teaching kids to sail boats a long time before windsurfing even started. If we get organised and implement this now, we have a good chance of getting on the podium in 2032 in Brisbane (or at least put forward some very decent athletes to participate in our own games).
Several years ago Jo Sterling qualified Australia for the Olympics in RSX. But, because she wasn't top ten in the world, Australian Sailing didn't enter her in the Games. Not a good enough chance to get a medal. I thought that sucked...
I agree but apparently that is the same for any sailor ie top ten is not even good enough. It is top 5 in the world ie a medal chance. If you look whenever Australia sent people to Windglider, Lechner, Mistral or RSX they were always medal chances. Now we have no medal chances and the prospects dropped off a lot when we had RSX. The reasons for that are the ones which should be considered. If we have big iQFoil fleets racing in clubs around Australia, then Australian prospects in the Olympics will be healthy. RSX did not achieve that. iQFoil is $15k and RSX was around $11K. From experience I know windsurfers don't like joining clubs but that is the engine room of Olympic sailing. A lot of work is needed and it will be up to those who want to race and support growth of windfoils. It starts at club level. Every Windsurfer LT or Bic Techno or raceboard sailor is part of the growth that supports this and when you join a club that has windsurfing racing it feeds into the windsurfing/windfoiling continuum. 20 iQFoil sailors in each state joining their local club is the way forward. This should be the goal of AWA. What is the AWA goal ? What support can AWA offer ?
Other sailors were selected for Rio that weren't Top 10 - Laser women and Finn. They were sent discretionarily. Jo missed out as did the 49er Fx. There were political reasons. Jo's board was on the way to Rio but something fishy happened. Rumour has had that AS didn't want to send the Fx women as they had bucked the system and Jo was 'collateral damage' as I have been told.
This is what makes it so hard - the unfairness of it. They wanted her to try again for Tokyo but she was told by the high performance manager that she would need to relocate full-time to Europe and quote: "no career, no boyfriend". Totally unacceptable and some of the things that happened to her were on a similar scale to the issues currently in swimming. I won't elaborate here.
No wonder she has gone onto to do her masters, is a psychologist, has bought a house and is now setting up a business to teach kinds with ADHD to surf. Windsurfing and AS's loss.
She does get out on the IQ foil for fun. But feels that Europe are already so far in front and competing against each other in large fleets, that it will be very hard for Aus to get up to speed. Aus also need to abandon their current model of selecting the top couple of sailors and sending them to Europe. With covid, this model may prove to be difficult. They should focus on developing big fleets here but they are already funnelling it all down to a few.
Yes it is a tough road the Olympics, glad Jo is now really happy and sorry to hear this story. It has always been tough and Brad Hiles (WA), there was someone who might have won gold in 1988 in heavy winds in Busan, Korea on a Division II Lechner but he was not selected as the trials were designed for and held in light winds. Note: "Busan in Korea was reportedly a light wind venue but no one realised until too late that this information came from the airport which was located in a sheltered valley. It turned out to be that the 1988 Olympic Games were one of the windiest ever with one day of racing postponed due to too much wind. One day of racing saw around 30 knots of wind with 5 knots of current going against the wind. There was a lot of equipment damage and rescues for many classes resulting in many sailors did not finish and requests for redress." I don't know Brad Hiles but I think he has a reason to feel ripped off. He was a great sailor and would have been unbeatable as these are like WA conditions.
We have some issues to overcome:
* We have a small population with pockets of people spaced very far apart. This makes it expensive and time consuming to compete.
* Very few windsurfing instructors (only at a handful of clubs). This makes it hard to find somewhere to learn to windsurf.
* Most windsurfers (my guess is 95%) don't go to yacht clubs (slalom sailors, GPS, free riders, wavesailors etc) and their kids (a good source for a youth fleet) have not spent time at the yacht clubs either.
* The Australian Sailing Performance Director fired our National Windsurfing coach (Max) just before the Youth Olympics (and he had been developing beginner youth competition along the east coast as well as training those competing internationally). The coach was the central coordinating point for youth development. He also helped connect the AWA with AS.
This sent a message of the lack of interest of Australian Sailing in windsurfing. Their attitude has always been that if the other sailing classes have succeeded, then windsurfing should have succeeded in the same way (implying that AS doesn't think it should put in much effort to nurture the sport). They obviously don't understand how long it takes to develop a youth class. The coach was fired without consultation with any windsurfers or discussion with the coach himself and without knowing what had been achieved or what was planned.
* It is unreasonable to expect an athlete to fund themselves to the extent necessary to get to the Olympics. Fund raising is difficult to do and an athlete really needs others to do it for them so they can concentrate on what they do best.
* It is unreasonable to expect that the only way an athlete will be good enough to compete internationally is to give up their home, family and friends and somehow fund themselves to live in Europe for more than 6 months of every year, beg to be included in another country's training squad and give up all hope of having a career or a relationship. If Australian Sailing give the athletes this message, it can be no surprise that it is hard to find people willing (and able) to do this. Particularly when you realise that after years of training and giving up everything else in life, a small injury or illness (or only ranking 6th in the world) can end all your hopes of going to the Olympics.
* Many aspiring athletes have seen how Australian Sailing have treated prior Olympic hopefuls.
* Australian Sailing need to offer Windsurfing and Kitesurfing instruction at most of their clubs (wherever suitable) since they are the organisation responsible for the Olympic pathway for these sports. They need to offer boards to learn on for hire.
* To do well at international level without needing to live overseas, we need to hold competitions in Australia. We need a large fleet to be able to do this effectively (that is to provide strong competition at home to make our athletes stronger). We can't just rely on having a couple of great windsurfers to send to the Olympics. The one windsurfer who is sent to the Olympics needs to have a dozen other Australian windsurfers to train with so that they push each other to become world class. Also all our hopes don't rest on one or two people who could drop out due to unforeseen circumstances.
* Australian Sailing need to commit to sending our best windsurfers and kitesurfers to the Olympics regardless of their medal chances. This will inspire and give hope to kids who are interested in aiming for the Olympics. It is outrageous that a wealthy country like Australia cannot afford to send athletes in every sport we qualify to do so. It is hard enough to gain Olympic qualification for your country and inexcusable that we only send someone if we think they can win. What happened to the Olympic Spirit?
As the Olympic Creed says: "The most important thing in the Olympic Games is not to win but to take part, just as the most important thing in life is not the triumph but the struggle. The essential thing is not to have conquered but to have fought well." Well Australian Sailing doesn't think so.
On the positive side:
* For our small population, we have a good amount of windsurfers (and they are very talented. eg it is amazing that Jo Stirling for example was able to qualify Australia and rank so high in the world with very few windsurfers to train with and very little support from AS).
* The IQ already has the largest youth fleet participation Australia has had in decades
* RQ in Brisbane has great volunteers and windsurfing instructors
* Qld, NSW and WA have strong youth fleets developing (and some great coaches)
* IQ seems to be inspiring youth all over the world (about 260 kids have entered the upcoming IQ youth worlds)
An idea for getting more windsurfing instructors:
Currently it costs thousands to become a windsurfing instructor (first aid certificate, powerboat handling course and windsurfing instructor's course). There is little opportunity to work with seasoned instructors to gain experience and few clubs have jobs available for qualified instructors.
Since we need to attract a lot of new windsurfing instructors to train large fleets and have them at every yacht club (like the other classes do), Aus Sailing could offer free training in exchange for their commitment to pay the cost back by instructing for a set number of hours in the clubs where they are needed in return (eg one Saturday per month until repaid after which they can start to be employed).
We should aim for 3-4 windsurfing instructors in every club. We need to grow the capacity of clubs to provide windsurfing instruction to many more kids. This way it could start to be seen by parents as a Saturday morning sporting option where they can drop off the kids and pick them up some hours later.
Clubs can promote/advertise windsurfing lessons because they know they have the capacity to do this. AS should encourage/coorinate this and provide financial support/incentives. They should subsidise the clubs to buy a few boards to start off with. They should promote the learn to windsurf programmes at the yacht clubs so each club doesn't need to duplicate resources to advertise and develop their programmes.
Otherwise we cannot expect windsurfing to achieve the same results as the other sailing classes. Windsurfing has not had the same level of support over many decades by the same wealthy yacht clubs and families as the other boat classes have had. The yacht clubs have been teaching kids to sail boats a long time before windsurfing even started. If we get organised and implement this now, we have a good chance of getting on the podium in 2032 in Brisbane (or at least put forward some very decent athletes to participate in our own games).
Yep!! Agree with all points . My instructor certification lapsed due to a stuff up with YA and was asked to pay to redo the whole course. Sorry
, not happening. I don't do stupid charity. Sadly I can't see it getting any better/easier for those who want to go. But on the other side of things GPS sailing continues attract people to compete against their Pbs
has anyone figured out if we can watch the RSX live ?
Hey doug, according to Antonio Cozzolino in the windsurfing.tv video this morning, it will depend on which course they are sailing - TV coverage is only on the course closest to shore. Racing kicks off today 1pm local (tokyo) time, so should be viewable on the 7plus app or website.
7plus.com.au/olympic-games-tokyo-sailing
I'm watching the first race of the womens Laser right now live so RS-X shouldn't be a problem (even though there's no aussies).
"no career, no boyfriend".
Bleh... the 17th Century is calling.
It's a great idea to allow instructors to work off those ridiculously expensive qualifications (especially since many of us have had them in the past) but apart from that possibility, Australian Sailing can't really fund clubs to promote windsurfing. For a start, they claim they don't have the money. Secondly, other clubs are paying lots of money to AS already, so why should the clubs who are paying lots of money to AS have to pay even more just to help a branch of the sport that could so what the dinghy sailors and others do, and help themselves?
A club with about 30 members is supposed to pay $1018 per year to AS for affiliation fees alone. That's a huge burden on a small dinghy club, especially since many of them already fund clubhouses and their own training fleets and classes, so why should they have to pay even more just so another branch of the sport can get handed funding from AS?
The top dinghy sailors don't all come from wealthy clubs. Middle Harbour Amateur SC doesn't have a toilet, as far as I can remember, and it's in an old fibro shack but it's got Olympic medals for sailing and coaching. Wangi Sailing Club is in a traditionally working class area and is basically a brick shed; they do have an association with the little licensed worker's club next door but it's still not wealthy yet it produces multiple medallists. Double Bay SC is another wooden shack with an Olympian. Dobroyd (home club of our only windsurfing medallist) is a middle class dinghy club that was rebuilt by members. Tess Lloyd, 49erFX rep, started sailing and winning at Parkdale, which is not a rich club.
The clubs that have premises and training fleets are the ones where members got out and made something happen. If we windsurfers don't make that sort of stuff happen (and KA360 has made stuff happen) we can't expect others to do it for us.
Call your reps, tell them you think building club racing should be a goal, while your there ask them what you can do and how you can help to make that happen.
Here's the contact details
www.windsurfing.org/contacts.htm
Great point. Asking the AWA volunteers to volunteer even more of their time is not the way to get things done.