blueball said...

bakesy said...
well Suba all I can think of is that something within the ecosystem has changed I see Woodo has noticed a few things as well. The water temp is something I've been noting only for a couple of years but have read that this has caused a heap of damage to abalone, crays, crabs and other species. The shark thing is a bit of a worry too, in a lifetime (42yrs) on the water I've seen the odd change, one that was really weird was the emergence of mud crabs in the Murchison during the mid nineties. The other has been Spanairds off Two Rocks. These species will probably have an impact on the metro/southern scene and may have caused an imbalance. Those fish kills around Leeman really worried me, some weird stuff has happened in the Peel Estuary over the last decade that guys who have lived down here for 50 years just can't recall ever happening before, definately worth noting and would explain why apex predators are hitting the shoreline for a feed.

Forget Spaniards off Two Rocks, Marlin were caught in Geographe Bay last summer!!

They were taking Spaniards (and big ones too) off Albany last summer, pretty sure there was a landbased Sharky down that way too.

bit of a practical joke I think LS, I was really hoping that it might have been trueCan confirm that a bloke scooped a cray a couple of years ago though! there has been stories of sharks in the estuary, no reason why not as there is plenty for them to eat in here, I hooked an unidentified "thing" a couple of months ago that looked and acted like a shark for ten minutes, it was at night and we both called it a shark.

Funny thing is that Ive seen thousands of dolphins while surfing but have never seen a shark while in the water and only seen one while Ive been on the beach and it was big far king really big

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blueprint said...

doggie said...
Funny thing is that Ive seen thousands of dolphins while surfing but have never seen a shark while in the water and only seen one while Ive been on the beach and it was big far king really big

All that tells you is that you don't see them, you don't know they are there and it'll be over real quick when you do

I know they are there, we all do but we keep getting back in the water.

Kill the sharks. Then we can start on scientists. what have mud crabs got to do with it.

Om nom nom

jbshack said...

doggie said...
Funny thing is that Ive seen thousands of dolphins while surfing but have never seen a shark while in the water and only seen one while Ive been on the beach and it was big far king really big

I ve only ever seen sharks surfing over twenty years ago. So they were around in the old days too..

Oh and if anyone is keen to understand a bit more about our Current shark problem and all the reports. Especially the massive increase in the reports from the south west region. It may have to do with the fact that the chopper they currently use is rented and they have just made a application to buy one for themselves for good. SOOOOOOO the best way to help along your purchase and show its needed value is to add a few extra sitings in just for good measure..We are all just getting conned. Sad part is it seems to be the surfers who are getting played a grade

Suba what would you know? Honestly i thought you would have played this game to death with this lot.. Im surprised no one has googled to get the answer Surely that would be quicker and cheaper...

What next the deaths were faked too?

I dont think the sighting today at Trigg and Scabs was manufactured.

bakesy said...
more quality input from BS, making the world a better place one post a time. Try using some comprehension skills when reading words, it's a complicated issue.

Wow Bakesy! I've never seen you bring out your inner mongrel before! usually the gent Classsic!!

bakesy said...
should have just red thumbed it eh soley? But really enjoy the discussion and input side of this forum and can't abide those that really think we should cull or those that don't get that we are witnessing major changes to the ecosystem. I trust science and those that study the ocean to help us all work through this and to perhaps make our coastline a bit safer.

I know you don't like me to reply to your posts as my english skills aren't up to your standard but i agree most of your post.

But the problem is the scientists are saying shark numbers are lower then ever. They are also saying there is a complete imbalance in our eco system as well but that the answer isn't to kill more sharks. I agree with both of those ideals and if you agree with the scientists you'd agree with me.

Comercial fisherman who have something to gain from re starting commercial fishing for sharks have a agenda, but they say there are more sharks then ever. I cant find any scientists who say they agree with culling but i do often read on here about remarks made about the so called scientists, or the comments made to Suba who is at this moment studying sharks, claiming he and his science is wet behind the ear. So what scientists do we listen to? Do we google the online experts? That was my point.

As for my point about the government and spending, well no one seems to care that they are throwing thousands, no millions of dollars at this and doing absolutely nothing. I have been in talks with another interesting party lately (he confirmed my ideas to me) and to say the depth of miss handling of this problem by our state government is a joke is a understatement of biblical pre portions. Soon a few people (I hope) will be left with massive amounts of trouble. But only if the public can let go of the emotional side of the argument and look more at the facts and risks

Sorry i did type this and my last posts on a i phone so it could be worse than normal But we cant all be school teachers[}:)]

I have said & have plenty to say on the subject, but not in the mood to type atm.

The following article summarises my feelings very well...

www.busseltonmail.com.au/story/227118/stop-the-research-and-cull-some-sharks/

I think the problem has just been blown out of the water. With all these sightings this summer they are obviously out there.

No one has been eaten this summer. The choppers only see about 17% of the sharks (apparently) so they miss a lot. If they wanted to eat us and were rioting killing machines, we'd be getting attacked more often.

I still think if you aren't prepared to risk it (which is still a tiny risk), there's plenty of swimming pools in Perth.

A lot more people will drown this summer than be eaten by sharks. If peoples lives are what everyone wants to save, that would be a better place to start numbers wise.

You don't. If you want to do those things just grow some bloody balls and get out there.
Careful on the way to the beach though; far more likely to be killed on the way.

Yeah I saw that. So pointless.