This place is for fun - not for bullies

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boofy
boofy
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27 Feb 2013 5:13pm
Legion said...
Help! I've been cyber-bullied! I'm gunna report you to laurie, get you banned.

In response to the OP, it's the goddamn internet. If you can't handle it, get out. If you really need to report things and have "admin" hold your hand for you, wow.

That's the thing I hate about seabreeze, how soft everyone is. Always complaining to laurie. "Oooh, a troll! Someone help me, I can't handle this scary situation by myself."


Yep I gotta agree with you there Legion unless you have actually met the bully it would be embarrassing to find out the bully is a 10 year old bitter and twisted EMO girl or a maniac bubble boy sitting in his bubble tent
surfershaneA
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27 Feb 2013 2:18pm
laceys lane said...
i believe the decline in the sup room started when doggie and legion got in there.


probably just a coincident thou.



probably bound to happen anyway


The decline in the SUP forum has probably more to do with a few of the prolific posters treating newcomers like kook wannabes. Often the newcomer will then say W.T.F. and spam the place. Gotta admit I have even done the same myself.

If you think the forum rules are cool you should see the speil you get when the moderators ban you temporarily. They have a bloody good sense of humour!

Oh, due to past episodes of bullying on this site, I am not even going to bother reading the responses to my post. Bye all.
Legion
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27 Feb 2013 2:30pm
boofy said...
... it would be embarrassing to find out the bully is a 10 year old bitter and twisted EMO girl or a maniac bubble boy sitting in his bubble tent


What the ...? How do you know who I am? And doggie too?
Legion
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27 Feb 2013 2:34pm
surfershaneA said...The decline in the SUP forum has probably more to do with a few of the prolific posters treating newcomers like kook wannabes.


I treated a few of the prolific posters like kook wannabes. But I got banned for my troubles .

I'm yet to meet a good SUPer. I'm sure they exist. I've seen some vague evidence when I used to read that forum but none in the flesh. Just numerous examples to the contrary in real life.
poor relative
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27 Feb 2013 2:40pm
Legion said...

I treated a few of the prolific posters like kook wannabes.


why?
Legion
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27 Feb 2013 2:51pm
Because they are? There are a lot of people on there who are new to the surf and think they know what they're talking about because they've been SUPing for a few years, more than newcomers to that sport. But they have no background in the waves themselves. In surfing, when I grew up you spent years learning the hard yards and slowly worked your way up the ladder gaining skill and experience until you earned a spot in the rotation. Nowadays all you need is a couple of grand and a paddle. Thankfully, most surf craft preclude the rider putting themselves and others in too much danger. Unfortunately, SUPers are very different due to their particular characteristics.

No problem with some, big problems with others. In general, those with a longtime surfing background are no problem it seems. But the overwhelming majority have no background.

Guys like dogman, greenroom, a whole bunch of others who I forget since I rarely go there, no problem.
Simondo
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27 Feb 2013 5:54pm
Haha! Legion, haven't noticed you about for ages!
poor relative
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27 Feb 2013 2:57pm
Legion said...


No problem with some, big problems with others. In general, those with a longtime surfing background are no problem it seems. But the overwhelming majority have no background.

Guys like dogman, greenroom, a whole bunch of others who I forget since I rarely go there, no problem.


Good luck with your crusade.

Heres some shining armour which will no doubt help.

Legion
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27 Feb 2013 3:08pm
Notice how big my sword is. Yeah.

Simondo said...
Haha! Legion, haven't noticed you about for ages!


CMC
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27 Feb 2013 5:17pm
If there were no bullies, no trolls, no Doggies and Legions which I have maintained for many years are really 1 single person code name DogLeg Seabreeze would be that boring I would come back far less.

It's adversity that keeps things interesting, and entertainment.........
Legion
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27 Feb 2013 3:17pm
You're right PR, I kinda came to the realisation I was wasting my time. So laurie did me a favour. But e.g. I was with a whole bunch of clueless kooks on SUPs last year at this one spot. They were a danger to themselves, each other, and other surf craft. It wasn't a problem at all when it got bigger, but unfortunately it's not always big and then I'd have to interact with these crew. Just blatant repeated dropping in, ditching boards, getting in the way, etc, etc. Low ability level but since they're already standing up and they've got paddling power they've automatically jumped 30 rungs up the ladder and don't need a fundamental skill set. And these are the sorts of people who I read posting on that forum. So occasionally I'd try to pass on advice etc, but unfortunately due to my immaturity usually with a barbed tongue.

There was one good guy. And about 20 kooks. Bit like the SUP forum.
Legion
Legion
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27 Feb 2013 3:20pm
CMC said...
... I have maintained for many years are really 1 single person code name DogLeg ...

It's a brilliant deception, and you're one of the only ones to see through us/me.

doggie
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27 Feb 2013 3:26pm
Legion said...
CMC said...
... I have maintained for many years are really 1 single person code name DogLeg ...

It's a brilliant deception, and you're one of the only ones to see through us/me.




Its over now!! Gotta stop talking to myself
boofy
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27 Feb 2013 6:36pm
doggie said...
Legion said...
CMC said...
... I have maintained for many years are really 1 single person code name DogLeg ...

It's a brilliant deception, and you're one of the only ones to see through us/me.




Its over now!! Gotta stop talking to myself


Back in your bubble tent Emo kid
doggie
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27 Feb 2013 3:45pm
boofy said...
doggie said...
Legion said...
CMC said...
... I have maintained for many years are really 1 single person code name DogLeg ...

It's a brilliant deception, and you're one of the only ones to see through us/me.




Its over now!! Gotta stop talking to myself


Back in your bubble tent Emo kid


laceys lane
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27 Feb 2013 6:23pm
dear mrs legion. i feel it is my duty to inform you that if you look at the top of the page it says 'LONGBOARD'.

if you insist on arguing about sups in the longboard forum, at least have the decency to use this forums code word which is 666.

thankyou


must be hell- nowhere it preach to the heathens
thePup
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27 Feb 2013 4:27pm
ahhh the good brother Lacey how the fark are we this fine (end of the working week for me ) day
Legion
Legion
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27 Feb 2013 4:37pm
laceys lane said...
must be hell- nowhere it preach to the heathens




I have been known to preach in the water, too. I dream of the day I come across hilly or greenroom and can have a rational, friendly discussion. Until then, no doubt I'll continue to encounter imbeciles.
doggie
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27 Feb 2013 4:48pm
Legion said...
laceys lane said...
must be hell- nowhere it preach to the heathens




I have been known to preach in the water, too. I dream of the day I come across hilly or greenroom and can have a rational, friendly discussion. Until then, no doubt I'll continue to encounter imbeciles.


Hahahaha
laceys lane
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27 Feb 2013 7:04pm
Legion said...
laceys lane said...
must be hell- nowhere it preach to the heathens




I have been known to preach in the water, too. I dream of the day I come across hilly or greenroom and can have a rational, friendly discussion. Until then, no doubt I'll continue to encounter imbeciles.



we can only hope you do- you deserve it
bakesy
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27 Feb 2013 5:41pm
Legion your point on progressing up the ladder is well made and certainly my experience. However, I don't get how these 666'ers actually make it out the back, read the surf, takeoff and presumably make it back out again without some sort of clue. If you are saying that this is their first experience of surfing then that's a pretty good effort especially at the place you observed this behaviour, did this stuff happen when it was below head high? If so I can kind of understand, any bigger and they would have taken some beatings right? best way to learn and to thin a crowd at the same time.
Legion
Legion
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27 Feb 2013 6:11pm
Not raw beginners. Just kooks. At a well-known place that's a big, wide open reef zone. There's plenty of scope to paddle out and not get wet, even for kooks. I can paddle out (with lots of luck) on an 8' day and not get hammered. Other times I can get washed through the inside on a 4-6' day. The days with trouble were 3-4' and under, no problem for a kook. Lots of deep water around for safety, come steaming in when you think you've got it. Someone else in position? No problem, you've already bagsed this one from 100m away. Someone else already up 20m inside you? Too late, no way to stop your momentum. Not used to the feel of a wave? No problem, just fall off backwards or drift sideways up the face then dive off the back and let the board go sideways over the falls. People sitting in exactly the takeoff spot patiently waiting their turn? Nup, seen a wave so paddle madly inside the crew from 20m further out and 20m further on the shoulder until you're just inside. First to see it deserves it, right? Etc.

A big part of the problem was it was wind crew who've found a new craze. Something to do before the breeze comes in. No awareness of waves or surf zone at all.

I got in an almost fight. It was ugly and sucked.

As soon as it is over 4', the crowd magically thins. Particularly over 6'.
thePup
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27 Feb 2013 7:31pm
Such a sweet vibe in Perth line-ups makes one proud to be West Aussie
weiry
weiry
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27 Feb 2013 9:39pm
Did you read the topic ,this place is for fun - not for Doggies what happen to I won't be back
62mac
62mac
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27 Feb 2013 7:40pm
weiry said...
what happen to I won't be back

Deep down he really likes me
doggie
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27 Feb 2013 7:46pm
62mac said...
weiry said...
what happen to I won't be back

Deep down he really likes me


62mac
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27 Feb 2013 7:53pm
Told yaz
newguy
newguy
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654 posts
28 Feb 2013 10:15am
Is this the new 'shark' topic of the Beer Garden? And to think 'bullying' was confined to my generation... Alrighty, it's time to drop the topic! Weekends here! Grab a beer and surf!
jbshack
jbshack
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28 Feb 2013 11:16am
Legion said...
Not raw beginners. Just kooks. At a well-known place that's a big, wide open reef zone. There's plenty of scope to paddle out and not get wet, even for kooks. I can paddle out (with lots of luck) on an 8' day and not get hammered. Other times I can get washed through the inside on a 4-6' day. The days with trouble were 3-4' and under, no problem for a kook. Lots of deep water around for safety, come steaming in when you think you've got it. Someone else in position? No problem, you've already bagsed this one from 100m away. Someone else already up 20m inside you? Too late, no way to stop your momentum. Not used to the feel of a wave? No problem, just fall off backwards or drift sideways up the face then dive off the back and let the board go sideways over the falls. People sitting in exactly the takeoff spot patiently waiting their turn? Nup, seen a wave so paddle madly inside the crew from 20m further out and 20m further on the shoulder until you're just inside. First to see it deserves it, right? Etc.

A big part of the problem was it was wind crew who've found a new craze. Something to do before the breeze comes in. No awareness of waves or surf zone at all.

I got in an almost fight. It was ugly and sucked.

As soon as it is over 4', the crowd magically thins. Particularly over 6'.


Kooks maybe but i will say this. 666's are bloody hard to surf on, as a surfer i'm not great but i can steer, turn and definitely avoid others, i tried surfing my SUP in 1 foot waves down south and its a big ask. The thing is massive and my last boat had a better turning circle. Having said that, they need some cred for there fitness as well. It hurts in places you didn't realise, and for days after. I really wanted to surf mine at a few points in Perth but am sh-t scared now of my lack of control, but it still comes down to people need to be taught safe surf techniques and general etiquette to others, cant see that ever happening though

Having said that if this was a Body board page they would Be saying the same about the surfers
swalkington
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WA
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28 Feb 2013 12:46pm
I reckon paddle supping is fun but why would you bother when there is waves? Surf a lb if under waist high and a shorty if over. Problem solvered.
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