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Reflex Films
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26 May 2008 2:33pm
Had a ripper session at scarbs this am - the winter banks have arrived after a good savaging from a strong frontal system.

scarbs -with less than 1.7m swell at rotto absolutely goes off - as long as there are gutters. Any more than 1.7m of swelll and i grab the surfboard and go barrell hunting.

Today it was marginal with some shortboarders getting some good uns but a little lacking in power as the swell was slowly on the fade - the 11'2 Starboard loved it. Definitley got tons of long rides with speed - and some reos too.

i COULD have taken heaps of weaves off the pack - but i was making sure that no one felt like they were being taken advantage - we have to be SUPER CONSIDERATE of other users - i was already getting some pretty funky looks just by being out there.

The cool thing is that the SUP still rocks at Scarbs when there is as little as 0.7m swell at rotto -had plenty of ripper days in summer in these sort of conditions- its pretty rare that it gets smaller than that - i'm gonna get so many days in this winter - stoked!
marco gribi
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26 May 2008 4:26pm
The Rott has already set in MH, taking time away from the editing for a SUP.

MG
Greenroom
Greenroom
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27 May 2008 12:51am
Drove past on the way to work this morning and saw a few nice ones rolling through
Reflex Films
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30 May 2008 4:52pm
Nother ripper session today! - 1.5 - 1.2 m swell at Rotto- mid tide - wind ne 3 - 6 knots - primo scarbs stuff.


30 waves plus - tons of LOONG rights - really long from out the back to 25 m or more down the beach
10 reos tried -3 landed - a few good wipeouts

Lovin the SB 11'2 ,


lovin the scarbs banks right now - windsurf beach peak has a sensational gutter with a right breaking into and thru it.
P co
P co
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30 May 2008 6:00pm
It surprises me how well the SUP rides even the small closeout looking days. You can get in so early and race down the sections before a regular surfer would be popping to their feet. Had some ripper little arvo's in summer when all I was expecting was a flat water cruise out the back.
Greenroom
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30 May 2008 10:39pm
Reflex Films said...

Nother ripper session today! - 1.5 - 1.2 m swell at Rotto- mid tide - wind ne 3 - 6 knots - primo scarbs stuff.


30 waves plus - tons of LOONG rights - really long from out the back to 25 m or more down the beach
10 reos tried -3 landed - a few good wipeouts

Lovin the SB 11'2 ,


lovin the scarbs banks right now - windsurf beach peak has a sensational gutter with a right breaking into and thru it.



Reflex Films
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14 Jun 2008 10:26am
another joy scarbs session today - in front of the ampitheatre

i though mettams would be on as rotto was around 2m -checked it but it was dribbly as- the swell was on the fade big time.

Plan b: Checked out the beachies and VERY glad i did -mid arvo so zero crew in the water- a nice little rip was forming an artificial gutter (look for the no swimming signs) that was firehosing out to sea - moving around quite a bit (the paddle power of SUP just nails rips and shifting peaks -yet another advantage!) - got a ton of waves , a mal milking the same peak even locked in a little barrrel - and came out. RESPECT. We were both havin a ball.

Heres a cool tip thats fun and functional on the Starboard 11'2:

i found that when going backside (left in my case) and the section looks walled up and super fast (maybe closing out fast) - if you kneel down on your back foot , place your paddle on the board and grab the outside rail (think kelly slater's backside barrel technique) and lever it up about 15 degrees - the rail finds a really grippy part of the curve and just SHOOOTS down the line - even if its a semi white water section. Result = making the section on nearly impossibly fast waves - had quite a few ripper lefts using this technique - SUPER FUN! lovin it...
WINDY MILLER
WINDY MILLER
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14 Jun 2008 10:57am
another SB 11'2 addict who does this...frontside aswell as back ...works well and does seem to get him that extra bit of grunt to whilst going down the line.






any suppy films coming up Matt?
Reflex Films
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14 Jun 2008 1:54pm
Got a bunch of footage from Maui - gonna do another Sup basics movie for Starboard - web downloadable mid august. Starring brian Talma. It'll be on their 2009 promo DVD too.

I also have a lifestyle SUP project in mind - i would love to get down to the south coast and film some cruisy river expeditions then out thru rivermouths and into some classy waves - all with a bit of a laid back , sunset , backlit, morning of the earth feel to it. Basically catch the cruisy laid back relaxed feel of a good SUP session. Dunno if its commercially viable - but it would be fun to put a dvd together - i have a fair bit of footage already.
oliver
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14 Jun 2008 4:00pm
Hey reflex,

if you head down Melbourne way make sure you are here for the next full moon night paddle - very lifestyle very cruisy
Reflex Films
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14 Jun 2008 4:44pm
Hey windy - nice pics!
Greenroom
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14 Jun 2008 10:30pm
I hear what your saying MH.
I do the pig dog move often as this gives me a ton of speed as I lift the flat section of the board onto the inside rail.
Backside or frontside.
Plus I think its a super cool move



Greenroom
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15 Jun 2008 6:45pm
Here is another photo taken of me yesturday demonstrating the drop knee rail grab

Greenroom
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15 Jun 2008 6:47pm
Reflex Films said...

I also have a lifestyle SUP project in mind - i would love to get down to the south coast and film some cruisy river expeditions then out thru rivermouths and into some classy waves - all with a bit of a laid back , sunset , backlit, morning of the earth feel to it. Basically catch the cruisy laid back relaxed feel of a good SUP session. Dunno if its commercially viable - but it would be fun to put a dvd together - i have a fair bit of footage already.

When are the auditions?
Im a really good actor

Reflex Films
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20 Jun 2008 2:36pm
just had a wicked little session down at scarbs / brighton.

Here is another bonus that Stand Ups gives to the surfer - you know those surfs where the swell is maybe shoulder high and there is a strong rip wriggling out to sea - moving the peak around alot. There are a lot of peaks coming in but the waves are really hard to get because

the peak is moving around alot or the rip pulls you out too far - or feeds the waves energy so that it breaks at ta VERY specific spot - meaning surfboard take offs that are too early or too late.

The Stand up doesnt really feel the rip - you can just slice across it - or even sit in the rip and maintain position with a few strokes. End result - you get tons of waves by being in position!
And then you have a rip fed wall to enjoy that has quite a bit of energy in it!!

Scarbs does have quite a few days like this where the rip actually forms the gutter - and hence the shape.

For sure A Stand Up is the tool for the job on those days.

Got some awesome right handers this morning! another session of stoke!!
Greenroom
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20 Jun 2008 10:21pm
See you out there tomorrow morning MH?
I reckon Cott will be fat
Reflex Films
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2 Jul 2008 4:04pm
WORRARIPPER!

just got in from another sweeeet sesh at brighton / scarbs - the magic combo was on again - 1.5m swell at rotto, mid tide and some nice gutters! And a nice 3 - 8 knot easterly. Some nice deep gutters there right now actually. Some fantastic right handers still running thru some rips.

The SB 11'2 is a very intriguing board - as you learn its pivot points it just seems to get looser and looser the more you surf it - and all while feeling SUPER connected to the wave.

Such is the ability of these boards to get long flowing rides - I was even getting the thumbs up from the crew in the water.

As usual i was letting heaps of waves go thru for the pack - and just picking off the ones chock full of shape. Good vibrations all round.

Can not believe how much fun !
hilly
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2 Jul 2008 4:11pm
Point was pretty good too!
eric344
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2 Jul 2008 4:53pm
Reflex Films said...

WORRARIPPER!

just got in from another sweeeet sesh at brighton / scarbs - the magic combo was on again - 1.5m swell at rotto, mid tide and some nice gutters! And a nice 3 - 8 knot easterly. Some nice deep gutters there right now actually. Some fantastic right handers still running thru some rips.




hey Matt, at what time have you been out ?

I checked scarbs at 8am but finally headed a bit north and found a fun small uncrowded wave perfect for me and the 10' Laird

I'll probably do the same tomorrow morning

have fun,
Eric

Reflex Films
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2 Jul 2008 7:42pm
Eric -

anytime from 11 - 3pm seems pretty good - basically mid tide. You also want to avoid the stronger off shores of the early morning.


1-3 pm and you get the no crowd after lunch session - just make sure the tide doesnt drop out too much (check the tide graph) - If the banks are really good you cna have fun later in the afternoon as well.

Like those threeos you been throwing down on your SUP - VERY cool!


Greenroom
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2 Jul 2008 9:51pm
I gotta totally agree with you MH.
Ive been really dialing into the 11'2 lately.
I went out at Metts this arvo and it was only me and Annika. She was on her 11'2 as well. I also saw someone down at TP.
Ive been getting right up to the nose and back again. Im still using my shortboard leggie which is a pain really. I need to get myself a longboard leggie.
Also finding that sweet spot is just the ticket for driving the board around on some sweet cutbacks. Not what you would expect from an 11'2.
Bring on the 10'5 I say
hilly
hilly
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3 Jul 2008 9:31am
Bring on the 10'5 I say - Definitely go smaller Owen you will love the speed and drive you get compared to the 11 2. Finding the JL 10 8 joy in the waves.

MH - How did you find the 9 8 compared to the 11 2? I much preferred the 9 8 in waves much faster and responsive, found the 11 2 sluggish like the Naish 11 6 more cruiser style. Horses for courses.

Cheers Andrew
Reflex Films
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3 Jul 2008 10:02am
i havent ridden the 9'8 alot - but in my brief experience it delivers alot of what i get from my normal surfboard - a later take off and it needs a little bit more energy in the wave to come alive.

For me the whole point of SUP is to turn average waves (we get alot of these here in Perth) into something fun - the incredible drive and longboard style trimming of the 11'2 delivers that. You cant really longboard trim (that cool feeling of walking the board for trim - toes on the nose etc) and noseride the 9'8.

AS i mentioned before the 11'2 really has some cool sweet spots that take a while to get to know - but the curves are in all the right places on that board. I',m discovering It even does floaters and reos pretty well - once you learn to go with the board.

I actually reckon in good waves the 9'8 would be a better carving surfer - but i will just grab my 6'4 when that happens! Slides , reos, 360s and aerials (attempts in my case) are areas where - so far - a stand up just cant compete with a surfboard - Plus i feel a whole lot better in a barrel without paddles and large boards all around me.

The SB 11'2 is also a good coast cruiser for basic paddling - WAAAY more glide than the Naish 11'6 - which is a pretty bent board. In fact the Naish 11'6 and Starboard 11'2 are 2 VERY different boards - even though the lengths are similar - the rail shapes, rockers and volumes are completely different. I never really got along with the massive chunky hard rail in the rear of the Naish 11'6 - it just didnt feel like it wanted to set in the face of a wave properly. In my experiences on that board -Several times the back just let go and slid out of the wave.

Nothing wrong with big round rails up in the middle and front of a board though..

So for me the Naish 11'6 didnt paddle well (too much rocker) and didnt surf well (the rocker was good for surfing but the tail rails let it down) - your mileage may vary.

The newer Naish models look a lot more refined though.

The SB 11'2 rail delivers super confidence in a wall as its rail blades out progressively towards the tail and has some real grip in a wave face. And i have never found it to be slow - at full trim i can make virtually any section that doesnt qualify as a clsoeout.


So its a matter of having the right tool for the job - in this case (as a surfer with a great all round surfboard) the 11'2 delivers the biggest range of fun for me personally.
hilly
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3 Jul 2008 12:14pm
I found the JL 10 8 and the SB 9 8 accelerated better even on small waves which gave me more freedom to turn.

Give you the glide factor the JL is not as much fun getting to outer reefs as the 11 6 or 11 2 was. At 110kg the chunky rails were excellent for learning. Wish I could afford 2 boards.

Lack of nose rocker in the 11 2 caused me some grief too on late take offs. The small 8" fin spun out on me heaps. Would recommend the wood construction just so you get the side fins.

I cannot lay down paddle much now due to neck grief so SUP came at the right time for me.

All good boards great to have so much choice now.

eric344
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3 Jul 2008 12:45pm
Just back from scarbs (was there from 8h30 to 9h30), and yeah, I had heaps of fun !

50cm waves some opening really good and no crowd at all ; the only thing is the tide that was maybe a bit high producing some naughty backwash.

regarding the board discussion, I share reflex film's opinion :


For me the whole point of SUP is to turn average waves (we get alot of these here in Perth) into something fun - the incredible drive and longboard style trimming of the 11'2 delivers that. You cant really longboard trim (that cool feeling of walking the board for trim - toes on the nose etc) and noseride the 9'8.


That's why I love my 10' Laird ( I've already put a review on it in the gear reviews section)

But yeah, it's good to see that for 2009 some brands will have shortboards, longboards, guns, beginner, cruising and open ocean race boards, I can only afford to have 1 and already made my choice, but if I could I would certainly have 1 of each (even the beginner one, so I can teach to my mates !)

I hope you'll all have a good sesh today,

Eric

Reflex Films
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3 Jul 2008 12:54pm
when i started on the 11'2 i too was getting the odd sideways pitch and some nose dives on take off. I believe these are just basic beginner hurdles anyone goes through learning trim and set on SUP. This happened to me on all sorts of shapes in the early days.

None of this happens top me at all anymore - you just have to know how to use the curves (rocker and rail) of the board. And with experience you tend to position more effectively in the surf.

now that i have the board dialled - i can take off on steep waves(even scarbs low tide suck ups) with confidence - as its a long board you just have to trim by taking a step and a half back - where the tail rocker keeps the nose out nicely for you! This zone also gives the board heaps of looseness of the bottom.

I dont get any sideways stuff on takeoff now - in fact i personally would hesitate to go to thrusters now as i like the looseness and speed of the single - and would like to avoid any surplus drag- admittedly you do have to be a bit more on to its trim. Especially when you are trimming through a whitewater section - this is where the get low and grab rail tilt 15 degrees trick works beautifully.

The thrusters are definitely easier - but i think take an edge off the top of the performance envelope.
Greenroom
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3 Jul 2008 6:15pm
Reflex Films said...

i havent ridden the 9'8 alot - but in my brief experience it delivers alot of what i get from my normal surfboard - a later take off and it needs a little bit more energy in the wave to come alive.

For me the whole point of SUP is to turn average waves (we get alot of these here in Perth) into something fun - the incredible drive and longboard style trimming of the 11'2 delivers that. You cant really longboard trim (that cool feeling of walking the board for trim - toes on the nose etc) and noseride the 9'8.

AS i mentioned before the 11'2 really has some cool sweet spots that take a while to get to know - but the curves are in all the right places on that board. I',m discovering It even does floaters and reos pretty well - once you learn to go with the board.

I actually reckon in good waves the 9'8 would be a better carving surfer - but i will just grab my 6'4 when that happens! Slides , reos, 360s and aerials (attempts in my case) are areas where - so far - a stand up just cant compete with a surfboard - Plus i feel a whole lot better in a barrel without paddles and large boards all around me.

The SB 11'2 is also a good coast cruiser for basic paddling - WAAAY more glide than the Naish 11'6 - which is a pretty bent board. In fact the Naish 11'6 and Starboard 11'2 are 2 VERY different boards - even though the lengths are similar - the rail shapes, rockers and volumes are completely different. I never really got along with the massive chunky hard rail in the rear of the Naish 11'6 - it just didnt feel like it wanted to set in the face of a wave properly. In my experiences on that board -Several times the back just let go and slid out of the wave.

Nothing wrong with big round rails up in the middle and front of a board though..

So for me the Naish 11'6 didnt paddle well (too much rocker) and didnt surf well (the rocker was good for surfing but the tail rails let it down) - your mileage may vary.

The newer Naish models look a lot more refined though.

The SB 11'2 rail delivers super confidence in a wall as its rail blades out progressively towards the tail and has some real grip in a wave face. And i have never found it to be slow - at full trim i can make virtually any section that doesnt qualify as a clsoeout.


So its a matter of having the right tool for the job - in this case (as a surfer with a great all round surfboard) the 11'2 delivers the biggest range of fun for me personally.

AMEN!
How can anyone compete with that review?
We gotta catch up and go for a SUP Mat.

Greenroom
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3 Jul 2008 6:29pm
hilly said...

Bring on the 10'5 I say - Definitely go smaller Owen you will love the speed and drive you get
compared to the 11 2. Finding the JL 10 8 joy in the waves.

Cheers Andrew

Im with Matt on this one. The 9'8 is too small for what I want from a SUP.
Yeah but I do get some good speed and drive from the 11'2.
The more I ride it the more I think that this is the board for me.
And yes I think the 10'5 would be a super fun board but I cant see myself owning a smaller SUP.



hilly
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3 Jul 2008 10:25pm
Have to agree to disagree on that one the 11 2 did not do much for me on the waves. Don't see the point of a board that makes you compromise and change how you want to ride. I ride my SUP all the time unless it is big enough to tow and like a more progressive feel. As I said before horses for courses.
Reflex Films
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4 Jul 2008 1:42pm
yeah no worries hilly - thats the great thing about sup - its many things to many people -and super versatile. And if you are looking for more shortboard surfing feel - then the tools are there to give you what you need.

You goin north again this year ? - i remember you getting some absolute screamers through centeries on a surfboard about 10 years ago! Imagine it on a Sup!

just had a scarbs sesh in junky slop that was unsurfable on my lil surfboard - while it wasnt as good as ealier int he week - it was actually pretty good fun on the sup.
Brooko
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4 Jul 2008 9:08pm
Yeah great in depth reveiw ! well done , i have the 11 6" kalama and have been suprised at how well this board takes steep sucky drops in beach breaks. For a big board i have made some late take offs i thought were real dicey, but as you said reflex just taking that step back made all the difference gunna start looking at if i can poke the big girl into a couple of barrels soon
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