I might be wrong but isn't Melbourne the second most livable city in the world? ...after Vancouver.

Oliver ... move somewhere nice and you only cop tourists for part of the year. The rest of the year it is all yours and your new mates.

Sandon Point is a good secret spot

northern NSW would be good.

oliver said...

I'll have Peter Reith as a neighbor.

Does Peter SUP?

daletor said...

I might be wrong but isn't Melbourne the second most livable city in the world? ..

Your kidding right how many more knife attacks do you want to see on the news. Every other day someone is knifed, very sad

Easy to answer that one....East coast somewhere between Pambula/Merimbula and the Gold Coast. You'll have probably 100 options. Tourists are hard to get away from though...

Good luck, it's just a decision away. We have 4 kids and moved from Syd to GC a couple of years ago.

GC is unreal....

cheers froggo

Dream place to live, mid to northern NSW.Love Byron Bay and keep telling or pre warning the family that one day I will live down that way.
I would love to live in a quite country town/village that has a cracking right hand point break

and thats coming from Queenslander

froggo said...



GC is unreal....

cheers froggo

I hear ya froggo, but man it has changed soooooooooooo much in the last 10/15 years and not for the better. Sure we have great waves and climate but its full of metro's ,drugs, hookers, rev heads and dodgy people keen to make a dollar at any cost,sorry the place sucks.

Makaha said...

I am with mac, lived there years ago

What about that place where OG lives
Sounds ok

I've been going up to the GC and Northern NSW for years. 10 years ago I may have put it on my list but I don't get the same vibe now.

Ocean Grove could be good, never really spent any time there.

rollo90 said...

northern NSW would be good.

I'll second that.

Sandon Point at Bulli, a northern sub of Wollongong which is about 70 odd k's from Sydney. We almost moved there thinking we would still have access to Syd but still get the Seachange feeling. I was at Sandon Pt at xmas checking out those amazing old boatsheds. We decided on the GC purely because of the warmer weather and aquatic options.


froggo

1770 Agnes waters great fishing , great surf.Captain cook liked it.

I moved to Byron about 11 years ago and haven't yet found the time to move anywhere else.

Sandon Point. I hear the locals are very friendly and welcoming.[}:)]

oliver said...

My son is 13 and is giving us a hell of a time at the moment and that's got me dreaming of a better life

Best SUP wave could be St George in Geraldton on a big swell. Nice flowing wave that walls up then flows into deep water. When the wind isn't blowing though.

But that is avoiding the point really. How to deal with a 13 year old? Research shows there are three ways to parent.

Only one is effective.

The 3 ways are
1. Authoritarian. An example of this is. Parent shouts! YOU WILL NOT SMOKE CIGARETTES. IF I CATCH YOU SMOKING YOU WILL GET A HIDING!
Outcome= The child sneaks around to his mates place as soon as he can and has a puff. Ineffective

2. Laissez Faire. Where the child is allowed to find boundaries for itself. Often used by hippies and indigenous parents. Outcome=The child bares the burden of their own experimentation. Ineffective

3.Authoritative. The child is educated to the dangers of an activity and taught that the consequences will be something he alone must carry. Example. Parent to child. " If you wish to smoke it is entirely your decision" "However if you smoke you will stink". "It will make you ill". "It will cost you heaps". etc List all the reasons why you don't want them to smoke then allow them autonomy. Allow them to choose.This is amazingly effective.Your children aren't fools and will invariably make the right decision if they are educated to the dangers. If they are given no choice however they will choose to infuriate you

It seems to me that there is a default setting for most Australian parents and that is the Authoritarian version. Telling kids what to do and allowing them no input or choice in that decision is a sure way to reap rebellion and dissent. All you need to do is remember what it was like when you were growing up.

South Coast somewhere around Ulladulla/Mollymook area. Some of the best waves in Aus (if you like reefs) heaps of setups - bugger all crowds and generally a mellow vibe.

I find the north coast too aggro and crowded and misses heaps of the swells we get further south. The sth is less developed as well. I am biased as me and the Family spend nearly every holiday down there.