Select to expand quotecammd said..Serb1980 said..
Instead of sailing I am spending hours/ days trying to repair this engine. Getting sick of it!
Didn't even tried once to pull a spinnaker on my boat!!! Really getting sick of this. Boat is there to have fun and to enjoy the harbour and life not to suffer like this! Honestly..
Quote: "Believe me, my young friend, there is NOTHING - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats." - Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the Willows
I think working on boats is part of the joy, I know I spend more time working on mine then sailing it, it was never purchased as a "project" boat, I think you could buy a brand new one and still spend more time working on them then sailing.
I have been watching the Tally Ho rebuild on youtube, someone asked Leo what will happen to his channel when he finishes the rebuild, he replied that a boat is never finished.
For myself I am looking forward to doing some extended cruising down the track, I am lead to believe that's really just doing repairs in different locations.
It is certainly one of the biggest cliches in the literature of boating. What the Water Rat said to the Mole: "Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing-absolutely nothing-half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats."But here's a little tip. Any purportedly literate mariner who quotes that little snippet of Kenneth Grahame's classic The Wind in the Willows at you (it appears very early on, in Chapter 1, The River Bank) probably hasn't bothered to read the entire book. Because the very best bit-the part any cruising sailor, at least, will most readily relate to-doesn't appear until much later in Chapter 9, Wayfarers All.This is where the Water Rat, after bantering with some swallows who are preparing to migrate south for winter, meets up with the worthiest wayfarer of all, the Sea Rat, who has abandoned his comfortable life on an inland farm to answer the call again.
Illustration by Ernest H. ShepardWhat he says to the Water Rat speaks directly to the heart of anyone who has ever dreamed of sailing south for the winter:There, sooner or later, the ships of all seafaring nations arrive; and there, at its destined hour, the ship of my choice will let go its anchor. I shall take my time, I shall tarry and bide, till at last the right one lies waiting for me, warped out into midstream, loaded low, her bowsprit pointing down harbour. I shall slip on board, by boat or along hawser; and then one morning I shall wake to the song and tramp of the sailors, the clink of the capstan, and the rattle of the anchor-chain coming merrily in. We shall break out the jib and the foresail, the white houses on the harbour side will glide slowly past us as she gathers steering-way, and the voyage will have begun! As she forges towards the headland she will clothe herself with canvas; and then, once outside, the sounding slap of great green seas as she heels to the wind, pointing South!And you, you will come too, young brother; for the days pass, and never return, and the South still waits for you. Take the Adventure, heed the call, now ere the irrevocable moment passes! 'Tis but a banging of the door behind you, a blithesome step forward, and you are out of the old life and into the new! Then some day, some day long hence, jog home here if you will, when the cup has been drained and the play has been played, and sit down by your quiet river with a store of goodly memories for company. You can easily overtake me on the road, for you are young, and I am aging and go softly. I will linger, and look back; and at last I will surely see you coming, eager and light- hearted, with all the South in your face!
Select to expand quoteBushdog said..cammd said..Serb1980 said..
Instead of sailing I am spending hours/ days trying to repair this engine. Getting sick of it!
Didn't even tried once to pull a spinnaker on my boat!!! Really getting sick of this. Boat is there to have fun and to enjoy the harbour and life not to suffer like this! Honestly..
Quote: "Believe me, my young friend, there is NOTHING - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats." - Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the Willows
I think working on boats is part of the joy, I know I spend more time working on mine then sailing it, it was never purchased as a "project" boat, I think you could buy a brand new one and still spend more time working on them then sailing.
I have been watching the Tally Ho rebuild on youtube, someone asked Leo what will happen to his channel when he finishes the rebuild, he replied that a boat is never finished.
For myself I am looking forward to doing some extended cruising down the track, I am lead to believe that's really just doing repairs in different locations.
It is certainly one of the biggest cliches in the literature of boating. What the Water Rat said to the Mole: "Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing-absolutely nothing-half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats."But here's a little tip. Any purportedly literate mariner who quotes that little snippet of Kenneth Grahame's classic The Wind in the Willows at you (it appears very early on, in Chapter 1, The River Bank) probably hasn't bothered to read the entire book. Because the very best bit-the part any cruising sailor, at least, will most readily relate to-doesn't appear until much later in Chapter 9, Wayfarers All.This is where the Water Rat, after bantering with some swallows who are preparing to migrate south for winter, meets up with the worthiest wayfarer of all, the Sea Rat, who has abandoned his comfortable life on an inland farm to answer the call again.Illustration by Ernest H. ShepardWhat he says to the Water Rat speaks directly to the heart of anyone who has ever dreamed of sailing south for the winter:There, sooner or later, the ships of all seafaring nations arrive; and there, at its destined hour, the ship of my choice will let go its anchor. I shall take my time, I shall tarry and bide, till at last the right one lies waiting for me, warped out into midstream, loaded low, her bowsprit pointing down harbour. I shall slip on board, by boat or along hawser; and then one morning I shall wake to the song and tramp of the sailors, the clink of the capstan, and the rattle of the anchor-chain coming merrily in. We shall break out the jib and the foresail, the white houses on the harbour side will glide slowly past us as she gathers steering-way, and the voyage will have begun! As she forges towards the headland she will clothe herself with canvas; and then, once outside, the sounding slap of great green seas as she heels to the wind, pointing South!And you, you will come too, young brother; for the days pass, and never return, and the South still waits for you. Take the Adventure, heed the call, now ere the irrevocable moment passes! 'Tis but a banging of the door behind you, a blithesome step forward, and you are out of the old life and into the new! Then some day, some day long hence, jog home here if you will, when the cup has been drained and the play has been played, and sit down by your quiet river with a store of goodly memories for company. You can easily overtake me on the road, for you are young, and I am aging and go softly. I will linger, and look back; and at last I will surely see you coming, eager and light- hearted, with all the South in your face!
Awesome, ready to Take the Adventure, heed the call and bang the door behind me, right now after reading that............ and start doing repairs at new locations 
Select to expand quotecammd said..
...after reading that............ and start doing repairs at new locations 
If I've got this correct you have a spare engine.
rebuild that .
Don't talk to a marine mechanic about rebuilding your engine ring & get a quote of an engine reconditioning workshop tell them it's from a tractor or whatever.
I can't understand its a diesel it's compression ignition if it's firing you have compression & fuel and it can rev out & drive the boat so really the alternator should have no real effect.
It might sound stupid but have you checked the alternator is not seized?
I did work at an engine reconditioning shop for a few years doing all the machining u know grinding cranks cams boring blocks machining heads up & stuff all the fun stuff so its a bit of a mystery to me the symptoms the way you have described it.
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Beware, this is long ) As others have said, you need to stop worrying about hull speed and engine reliability. It's actually only in the last 60 years auxilliary engines were standard equipment in any sailing boats. Sailors needed to be able to handle their boats without engines in all conditions.
When we first started with our TopHat in 2009, we were moored in Gladesville, just east and south of the bridge. There was an Etchell there who was un-powered, and lived on a mooring very close to shore. They always sailed on and off the mooring. So it can be done, even in the worst conditions. We practice it often, because it's a good way to learn how to handle your boat in close quarters without an engine. Because even the best maintained engine can fail at any time. We have an outboard, on the transom. It's never not started, but it does cavitate when the waves get short and choppy, so we need to be able to sail safely without the engine in those conditions, which we have learned to do. We've also learned to be patient if the wind dies and not worry too much if we get back in later than we expected. Sailing for us is a relaxation, not a worry about how fast we're going. (unless of course there is another TopHat around to sail against.... er with )
Don't ever worry about hull speed. My Top Hat has a hull speed of 6.8 knots. It's never, ever got over 6, except running down the face of a 4 metre wave in a southerly, I got 11 knots and a pair of brown pants. No actual point in starting the engine, I was 6 miles off the coast and half way to Lake Macquarie solo.
There are numerous weather charts available, even on Seabreeze. They're used by sailors, surfers, kite boarders and fishermen. The weather always determines whether they go out or not. Again, as others have said, it's incumbent on you to know how to handle your boat on your own whenever you go out. If the wind is predicted at 15 knots, there will be gusts of over 20 knots. You need to decide whether you are going to put up with that or not. If not, stay on your mooring. Or, go out and learn how to handle your boat with some experienced sailors and get more confident.
You've had many, many posts here about your Tasman and how terrible the engine is and how terrible it is when you get into trouble. Bad weather sailing is part of owning a boat, and if you can't be sure you're going to get perfect weather, stay home. Boats are safe on shore, but that's not what boats are for is it?
If you're so worried about your engine, do the basic checks yourself. It's not rocket science if you stay focused and don't second guess your own abilities everything everyone suggests. This is what I would do.
1) Change the engine oil and oil filter, making sure it's the correct grade for your engine. DON'T SKIMP!
2) Replace all the diesel in the boat, change the diesel filter, making sure it's all fresh, especially if you've not used that much over the time you've owned it.
3) Replace the air filter element if it has one. Don't make up any additional stuff to keep it quiet. That will impede air intake and certainly reduce the power. It needs to be standard fitment.
4) You've cleared the exhaust elbow, but make sure the rest of the exhaust system is clear.
5) Check the valve clearances, then check the compression (your manual will tell you the clearance, and if it's out, how to set it correctly. It MAY make a difference to your compression if the valve clearances are a long way out.
6) Check the alternator bearings are not compromised. Having to start without the alternator doesn't make any sense.
7) Get the diesel fuel pump serviced, and check that it's operating correctly with the morse cable.
8) When the gearbox is in neutral, is the shaft relatively free to spin? Is the stuffing box, or shaft seal in good condition and not slightly seized?
9) An engine getting hot means something is not right in the cooling system. If you've replaced the head gasket with a home made one, then get an original fitment head gasket. You can't complain about poor running if you keep making stuff up. If you've had the head off, did you service it? Silly not to if you have it apart. What did the cylinder/s look like? Were they scored, was there a big lip at the top? Did you measure for a round cylinder, or are they oval shaped? Did you replace the head bolts and torque them to specification? It all makes a big difference.
All this work should be able to be done with the engine in the boat, and only once all of it is done can you be certain of it's condition. It's pointless to speculate and go all over the place looking for opinions and quotes until you complete the basics one at a time and check the results.
Select to expand quoteMichaelR said..?????? ??????
Beware, this is long ) As others have said, you need to stop worrying about hull speed and engine reliability. It's actually only in the last 60 years auxilliary engines were standard equipment in any sailing boats. Sailors needed to be able to handle their boats without engines in all conditions.
When we first started with our TopHat in 2009, we were moored in Gladesville, just east and south of the bridge. There was an Etchell there who was un-powered, and lived on a mooring very close to shore. They always sailed on and off the mooring. So it can be done, even in the worst conditions. We practice it often, because it's a good way to learn how to handle your boat in close quarters without an engine. Because even the best maintained engine can fail at any time. We have an outboard, on the transom. It's never not started, but it does cavitate when the waves get short and choppy, so we need to be able to sail safely without the engine in those conditions, which we have learned to do. We've also learned to be patient if the wind dies and not worry too much if we get back in later than we expected. Sailing for us is a relaxation, not a worry about how fast we're going. (unless of course there is another TopHat around to sail against.... er with )
Don't ever worry about hull speed. My Top Hat has a hull speed of 6.8 knots. It's never, ever got over 6, except running down the face of a 4 metre wave in a southerly, I got 11 knots and a pair of brown pants. No actual point in starting the engine, I was 6 miles off the coast and half way to Lake Macquarie solo.
There are numerous weather charts available, even on Seabreeze. They're used by sailors, surfers, kite boarders and fishermen. The weather always determines whether they go out or not. Again, as others have said, it's incumbent on you to know how to handle your boat on your own whenever you go out. If the wind is predicted at 15 knots, there will be gusts of over 20 knots. You need to decide whether you are going to put up with that or not. If not, stay on your mooring. Or, go out and learn how to handle your boat with some experienced sailors and get more confident.
You've had many, many posts here about your Tasman and how terrible the engine is and how terrible it is when you get into trouble. Bad weather sailing is part of owning a boat, and if you can't be sure you're going to get perfect weather, stay home. Boats are safe on shore, but that's not what boats are for is it?
If you're so worried about your engine, do the basic checks yourself. It's not rocket science if you stay focused and don't second guess your own abilities everything everyone suggests. This is what I would do.
1) Change the engine oil and oil filter, making sure it's the correct grade for your engine. DON'T SKIMP!
2) Replace all the diesel in the boat, change the diesel filter, making sure it's all fresh, especially if you've not used that much over the time you've owned it.
3) Replace the air filter element if it has one. Don't make up any additional stuff to keep it quiet. That will impede air intake and certainly reduce the power. It needs to be standard fitment.
4) You've cleared the exhaust elbow, but make sure the rest of the exhaust system is clear.
5) Check the valve clearances, then check the compression (your manual will tell you the clearance, and if it's out, how to set it correctly. It MAY make a difference to your compression if the valve clearances are a long way out.
6) Check the alternator bearings are not compromised. Having to start without the alternator doesn't make any sense.
7) Get the diesel fuel pump serviced, and check that it's operating correctly with the morse cable.
8) When the gearbox is in neutral, is the shaft relatively free to spin? Is the stuffing box, or shaft seal in good condition and not slightly seized?
9) An engine getting hot means something is not right in the cooling system. If you've replaced the head gasket with a home made one, then get an original fitment head gasket. You can't complain about poor running if you keep making stuff up. If you've had the head off, did you service it? Silly not to if you have it apart. What did the cylinder/s look like? Were they scored, was there a big lip at the top? Did you measure for a round cylinder, or are they oval shaped? Did you replace the head bolts and torque them to specification? It all makes a big difference.
All this work should be able to be done with the engine in the boat, and only once all of it is done can you be certain of it's condition. It's pointless to speculate and go all over the place looking for opinions and quotes until you complete the basics one at a time and check the results.
Buddy tried that twice but had strong current against me and just couldn't get back to Woolwich wharf from around the cockatoo island. Asked for help twice and got towed back by some good people. I need more practice ( haven't had any since engine broke down). I am not a sailor just a learner. With my hard work and enthusiasm I will get there. little upgrade on YSE8, the problem is not in the piston rings, in fact the exhaust valve is broken. Didn't opened properly and that caused blowby and eventually engine would shutdown. currently mechanic is fixing valves and the head of the engine and finally next week I will be back in business every morning from 6.30 to 8 sailing around the cockatoo island. so frustrating when you pay for a new mooring, insurance, rego, fix your boat and than you can not go sailing...actually learn how to sail.
It's not fair.I just can't wait that day when everything on engine is fine. I just fixed all small leakages on the boat and now I am ready like never before. Take care and stay safe my dear friends!
Select to expand quoteBushdog said..cammd said..Serb1980 said..
Instead of sailing I am spending hours/ days trying to repair this engine. Getting sick of it!
Didn't even tried once to pull a spinnaker on my boat!!! Really getting sick of this. Boat is there to have fun and to enjoy the harbour and life not to suffer like this! Honestly..
Quote: "Believe me, my young friend, there is NOTHING - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats." - Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the Willows
I think working on boats is part of the joy, I know I spend more time working on mine then sailing it, it was never purchased as a "project" boat, I think you could buy a brand new one and still spend more time working on them then sailing.
I have been watching the Tally Ho rebuild on youtube, someone asked Leo what will happen to his channel when he finishes the rebuild, he replied that a boat is never finished.
For myself I am looking forward to doing some extended cruising down the track, I am lead to believe that's really just doing repairs in different locations.
It is certainly one of the biggest cliches in the literature of boating. What the Water Rat said to the Mole: "Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing-absolutely nothing-half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats."But here's a little tip. Any purportedly literate mariner who quotes that little snippet of Kenneth Grahame's classic The Wind in the Willows at you (it appears very early on, in Chapter 1, The River Bank) probably hasn't bothered to read the entire book. Because the very best bit-the part any cruising sailor, at least, will most readily relate to-doesn't appear until much later in Chapter 9, Wayfarers All.This is where the Water Rat, after bantering with some swallows who are preparing to migrate south for winter, meets up with the worthiest wayfarer of all, the Sea Rat, who has abandoned his comfortable life on an inland farm to answer the call again.Illustration by Ernest H. ShepardWhat he says to the Water Rat speaks directly to the heart of anyone who has ever dreamed of sailing south for the winter:There, sooner or later, the ships of all seafaring nations arrive; and there, at its destined hour, the ship of my choice will let go its anchor. I shall take my time, I shall tarry and bide, till at last the right one lies waiting for me, warped out into midstream, loaded low, her bowsprit pointing down harbour. I shall slip on board, by boat or along hawser; and then one morning I shall wake to the song and tramp of the sailors, the clink of the capstan, and the rattle of the anchor-chain coming merrily in. We shall break out the jib and the foresail, the white houses on the harbour side will glide slowly past us as she gathers steering-way, and the voyage will have begun! As she forges towards the headland she will clothe herself with canvas; and then, once outside, the sounding slap of great green seas as she heels to the wind, pointing South!And you, you will come too, young brother; for the days pass, and never return, and the South still waits for you. Take the Adventure, heed the call, now ere the irrevocable moment passes! 'Tis but a banging of the door behind you, a blithesome step forward, and you are out of the old life and into the new! Then some day, some day long hence, jog home here if you will, when the cup has been drained and the play has been played, and sit down by your quiet river with a store of goodly memories for company. You can easily overtake me on the road, for you are young, and I am aging and go softly. I will linger, and look back; and at last I will surely see you coming, eager and light- hearted, with all the South in your face!
That is a truly wonderful piece from a book I should have but never have read. Thank you.
Sorry it doesn't help you much Serb.
At least all this work and messing around will make you appreciate your new boat when it arrives and solve problems with it which will inevitably come one day. Have you ordered it?
Good motorcycle heritage too like me and probably many others on here :). Dying breed of MEN.
If you do go the new motor route don't forget to check Witchard Marine (WM) at Mona Vale behind Norths Sails (but apparently moving to Avalon soon).
Select to expand quotejulesmoto said..Bushdog said..cammd said..Serb1980 said..
Instead of sailing I am spending hours/ days trying to repair this engine. Getting sick of it!
Didn't even tried once to pull a spinnaker on my boat!!! Really getting sick of this. Boat is there to have fun and to enjoy the harbour and life not to suffer like this! Honestly..
Quote: "Believe me, my young friend, there is NOTHING - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats." - Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the Willows
I think working on boats is part of the joy, I know I spend more time working on mine then sailing it, it was never purchased as a "project" boat, I think you could buy a brand new one and still spend more time working on them then sailing.
I have been watching the Tally Ho rebuild on youtube, someone asked Leo what will happen to his channel when he finishes the rebuild, he replied that a boat is never finished.
For myself I am looking forward to doing some extended cruising down the track, I am lead to believe that's really just doing repairs in different locations.
It is certainly one of the biggest cliches in the literature of boating. What the Water Rat said to the Mole: "Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing-absolutely nothing-half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats."But here's a little tip. Any purportedly literate mariner who quotes that little snippet of Kenneth Grahame's classic The Wind in the Willows at you (it appears very early on, in Chapter 1, The River Bank) probably hasn't bothered to read the entire book. Because the very best bit-the part any cruising sailor, at least, will most readily relate to-doesn't appear until much later in Chapter 9, Wayfarers All.This is where the Water Rat, after bantering with some swallows who are preparing to migrate south for winter, meets up with the worthiest wayfarer of all, the Sea Rat, who has abandoned his comfortable life on an inland farm to answer the call again.Illustration by Ernest H. ShepardWhat he says to the Water Rat speaks directly to the heart of anyone who has ever dreamed of sailing south for the winter:There, sooner or later, the ships of all seafaring nations arrive; and there, at its destined hour, the ship of my choice will let go its anchor. I shall take my time, I shall tarry and bide, till at last the right one lies waiting for me, warped out into midstream, loaded low, her bowsprit pointing down harbour. I shall slip on board, by boat or along hawser; and then one morning I shall wake to the song and tramp of the sailors, the clink of the capstan, and the rattle of the anchor-chain coming merrily in. We shall break out the jib and the foresail, the white houses on the harbour side will glide slowly past us as she gathers steering-way, and the voyage will have begun! As she forges towards the headland she will clothe herself with canvas; and then, once outside, the sounding slap of great green seas as she heels to the wind, pointing South!And you, you will come too, young brother; for the days pass, and never return, and the South still waits for you. Take the Adventure, heed the call, now ere the irrevocable moment passes! 'Tis but a banging of the door behind you, a blithesome step forward, and you are out of the old life and into the new! Then some day, some day long hence, jog home here if you will, when the cup has been drained and the play has been played, and sit down by your quiet river with a store of goodly memories for company. You can easily overtake me on the road, for you are young, and I am aging and go softly. I will linger, and look back; and at last I will surely see you coming, eager and light- hearted, with all the South in your face!
That is a truly wonderful piece from a book I should have but never have read. Thank you.
Sorry it doesn't help you much Serb.
At least all this work and messing around will make you appreciate your new boat when it arrives and solve problems with it which will inevitably come one day. Have you ordered it?
Good motorcycle heritage too like me and probably many others on here :). Dying breed of MEN.
If you do go the new motor route don't forget to check Witchard Marine (WM) at Mona Vale behind Norths Sails (but apparently moving to Avalon soon).
Thanks, got in touch with John WM and I think that he is a very nice man. He strongly suggested not to repair YSE8 and suggested to wait for the shipment to arrive so he could possibly install one of his engines in my boat for 9k plus 4K installation.
I know that Yanmar YSE8 is an old beast but if reconditioned properly it will push my boat for next 5 years without any problems and will easily reach a hull speed of 6.5 knots. That little engine has a lot of torque!!!!!!!
If I understand correctly you had the head off & made your own head gasket but didn't notice a broken exhaust valve?
What was the point in taking the head off if not to inspect those things?
I'm beginning to think that it might be your quotes for work are including the time taken to educate you about diesel motors.
All sailor's I've ever meet are more than happy to help beginners but I've never meet a mechanic that doesn't bill for time spent unnecessarily explaining things to people.
Its there job & likewise they want to be paid for there time.
Also having to redo poorly attempted repairs cost more than just getting the job done properly to start so while I applaud your efforts in trying it yourself maybe you are costing yourself a lot more money than necessary.
And this constant chasing hull speed that has been explained many times is going to end up costing you more than I think is worth investing in that boat .
But you should learn from your mistakes I've learned so much from my mistakes that I'm going to keep making them .
Select to expand quoteSerb1980 said..julesmoto said..Bushdog said..cammd said..Serb1980 said..
Instead of sailing I am spending hours/ days trying to repair this engine. Getting sick of it!
Didn't even tried once to pull a spinnaker on my boat!!! Really getting sick of this. Boat is there to have fun and to enjoy the harbour and life not to suffer like this! Honestly..
Quote: "Believe me, my young friend, there is NOTHING - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats." - Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the Willows
I think working on boats is part of the joy, I know I spend more time working on mine then sailing it, it was never purchased as a "project" boat, I think you could buy a brand new one and still spend more time working on them then sailing.
I have been watching the Tally Ho rebuild on youtube, someone asked Leo what will happen to his channel when he finishes the rebuild, he replied that a boat is never finished.
For myself I am looking forward to doing some extended cruising down the track, I am lead to believe that's really just doing repairs in different locations.
It is certainly one of the biggest cliches in the literature of boating. What the Water Rat said to the Mole: "Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing-absolutely nothing-half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats."But here's a little tip. Any purportedly literate mariner who quotes that little snippet of Kenneth Grahame's classic The Wind in the Willows at you (it appears very early on, in Chapter 1, The River Bank) probably hasn't bothered to read the entire book. Because the very best bit-the part any cruising sailor, at least, will most readily relate to-doesn't appear until much later in Chapter 9, Wayfarers All.This is where the Water Rat, after bantering with some swallows who are preparing to migrate south for winter, meets up with the worthiest wayfarer of all, the Sea Rat, who has abandoned his comfortable life on an inland farm to answer the call again.Illustration by Ernest H. ShepardWhat he says to the Water Rat speaks directly to the heart of anyone who has ever dreamed of sailing south for the winter:There, sooner or later, the ships of all seafaring nations arrive; and there, at its destined hour, the ship of my choice will let go its anchor. I shall take my time, I shall tarry and bide, till at last the right one lies waiting for me, warped out into midstream, loaded low, her bowsprit pointing down harbour. I shall slip on board, by boat or along hawser; and then one morning I shall wake to the song and tramp of the sailors, the clink of the capstan, and the rattle of the anchor-chain coming merrily in. We shall break out the jib and the foresail, the white houses on the harbour side will glide slowly past us as she gathers steering-way, and the voyage will have begun! As she forges towards the headland she will clothe herself with canvas; and then, once outside, the sounding slap of great green seas as she heels to the wind, pointing South!And you, you will come too, young brother; for the days pass, and never return, and the South still waits for you. Take the Adventure, heed the call, now ere the irrevocable moment passes! 'Tis but a banging of the door behind you, a blithesome step forward, and you are out of the old life and into the new! Then some day, some day long hence, jog home here if you will, when the cup has been drained and the play has been played, and sit down by your quiet river with a store of goodly memories for company. You can easily overtake me on the road, for you are young, and I am aging and go softly. I will linger, and look back; and at last I will surely see you coming, eager and light- hearted, with all the South in your face!
That is a truly wonderful piece from a book I should have but never have read. Thank you.
Sorry it doesn't help you much Serb.
At least all this work and messing around will make you appreciate your new boat when it arrives and solve problems with it which will inevitably come one day. Have you ordered it?
Good motorcycle heritage too like me and probably many others on here :). Dying breed of MEN.
If you do go the new motor route don't forget to check Witchard Marine (WM) at Mona Vale behind Norths Sails (but apparently moving to Avalon soon).
Thanks, got in touch with John WM and I think that he is a very nice man. He strongly suggested not to repair YSE8 and suggested to wait for the shipment to arrive so he could possibly install one of his engines in my boat for 9k plus 4K installation.
I know that Yanmar YSE8 is an old beast but if reconditioned properly it will push my boat for next 5 years without any problems and will easily reach a hull speed of 6.5 knots. That little engine has a lot of torque!!!!!!!
At the end of the day your boat is costing you a lot of money with mooring fees insurance, annual slipping and general deterioration plus fixing up tons of minor things all the time. I think you just need to bite the bullet and do whatever is necessary to either get this motor fixed fast or get a new one fast. I agree that if you want your wife to like sailing and you want to feel safe with your kids and are effectively single handing a reliable motor is important.
It takes me forever to put a reef in my mainsail by myself but I am still practising and my mainsail is a lot bigger than yours. Occasionally you just get caught out. I don't want to sail around all the time with three reefs just in case. Anyway mate just make a decision so that you can get back to sailing without having to worry about it all the time.
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Instead of sailing I am spending hours/ days trying to repair this engine. Getting sick of it!
Didn't even tried once to pull a spinnaker on my boat!!! Really getting sick of this. Boat is there to have fun and to enjoy the harbour and life not to suffer like this! Honestly..
Quote: "Believe me, my young friend, there is NOTHING - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats." - Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the Willows
I think working on boats is part of the joy, I know I spend more time working on mine then sailing it, it was never purchased as a "project" boat, I think you could buy a brand new one and still spend more time working on them then sailing.
I have been watching the Tally Ho rebuild on youtube, someone asked Leo what will happen to his channel when he finishes the rebuild, he replied that a boat is never finished.
For myself I am looking forward to doing some extended cruising down the track, I am lead to believe that's really just doing repairs in different locations.
It is certainly one of the biggest cliches in the literature of boating. What the Water Rat said to the Mole: "Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing-absolutely nothing-half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats."But here's a little tip. Any purportedly literate mariner who quotes that little snippet of Kenneth Grahame's classic The Wind in the Willows at you (it appears very early on, in Chapter 1, The River Bank) probably hasn't bothered to read the entire book. Because the very best bit-the part any cruising sailor, at least, will most readily relate to-doesn't appear until much later in Chapter 9, Wayfarers All.This is where the Water Rat, after bantering with some swallows who are preparing to migrate south for winter, meets up with the worthiest wayfarer of all, the Sea Rat, who has abandoned his comfortable life on an inland farm to answer the call again.Illustration by Ernest H. ShepardWhat he says to the Water Rat speaks directly to the heart of anyone who has ever dreamed of sailing south for the winter:There, sooner or later, the ships of all seafaring nations arrive; and there, at its destined hour, the ship of my choice will let go its anchor. I shall take my time, I shall tarry and bide, till at last the right one lies waiting for me, warped out into midstream, loaded low, her bowsprit pointing down harbour. I shall slip on board, by boat or along hawser; and then one morning I shall wake to the song and tramp of the sailors, the clink of the capstan, and the rattle of the anchor-chain coming merrily in. We shall break out the jib and the foresail, the white houses on the harbour side will glide slowly past us as she gathers steering-way, and the voyage will have begun! As she forges towards the headland she will clothe herself with canvas; and then, once outside, the sounding slap of great green seas as she heels to the wind, pointing South!And you, you will come too, young brother; for the days pass, and never return, and the South still waits for you. Take the Adventure, heed the call, now ere the irrevocable moment passes! 'Tis but a banging of the door behind you, a blithesome step forward, and you are out of the old life and into the new! Then some day, some day long hence, jog home here if you will, when the cup has been drained and the play has been played, and sit down by your quiet river with a store of goodly memories for company. You can easily overtake me on the road, for you are young, and I am aging and go softly. I will linger, and look back; and at last I will surely see you coming, eager and light- hearted, with all the South in your face!
That is a truly wonderful piece from a book I should have but never have read. Thank you.
Sorry it doesn't help you much Serb.
At least all this work and messing around will make you appreciate your new boat when it arrives and solve problems with it which will inevitably come one day. Have you ordered it?
Good motorcycle heritage too like me and probably many others on here :). Dying breed of MEN.
If you do go the new motor route don't forget to check Witchard Marine (WM) at Mona Vale behind Norths Sails (but apparently moving to Avalon soon).
Thanks, got in touch with John WM and I think that he is a very nice man. He strongly suggested not to repair YSE8 and suggested to wait for the shipment to arrive so he could possibly install one of his engines in my boat for 9k plus 4K installation.
I know that Yanmar YSE8 is an old beast but if reconditioned properly it will push my boat for next 5 years without any problems and will easily reach a hull speed of 6.5 knots. That little engine has a lot of torque!!!!!!!
At the end of the day your boat is costing you a lot of money with mooring fees insurance, annual slipping and general deterioration plus fixing up tons of minor things all the time. I think you just need to bite the bullet and do whatever is necessary to either get this motor fixed fast or get a new one fast. I agree that if you want your wife to like sailing and you want to feel safe with your kids and are effectively single handing a reliable motor is important.
It takes me forever to put a reef in my mainsail by myself but I am still practising and my mainsail is a lot bigger than yours. Occasionally you just get caught out. I don't want to sail around all the time with three reefs just in case. Anyway mate just make a decision so that you can get back to sailing without having to worry about it all the time.
Well, thank you for your message. Ok. I been trying to start the engine but just realised that pump in not pumping the diesel into injector. Took off the pump and realised that a pin and a coin like top are not connected. I will try to fix this and now with a new valves it should start. If doesn't start I will put an outboard and sell the boat. After so many hours of working on that boat I have realised that is too small for me and my family. peter cole bounty 35 is more likely coming into my possession. Tasman introduced me into sailing and is very nice little boat especially now when is leak free, has new batteries, solar panels, etc but I have made my decision to get something that is ready when I am. The future owner will have inboard and outboard and nice little boat but I want 35 footer. No more dirty hands and destroyed clothes.
Now the real joy is coming, turn the key and go. Sailing, fishing with friends , cruising with family.
I don't regret any second of my time spent on Tasman at all. I learned how to install electricity, played with engine around, almost capsized twice. Tasman I'm will always be in my hart. Instead of investing 14k in It I have made a decision to stop playing around with Tasman and get myself a serious boat in perfect condition. A new Volvo 3 cylinders, new rigs, very good sails..finally dreams are coming true.
Guys will keep in touch and I will let you know if I managed to get this bounty 35. I must do some magic and negotiate a big time otherwise my wife will cut my balls for sure.
stay safe
Serb did you bleed the fuel system first? It won't start unless you bleed it first. Look it up on YouTube and you should find plenty of information on it.Hope you get it running.
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The future owner will have inboard and outboard and nice little boat but I want 35 footer. No more dirty hands and destroyed clothes.
Now the real joy is coming, turn the key and go. Sailing, fishing with friends , cruising with family.
There is a company in Qld called Yachtshare, probably something similar in NSW. It's not time share you own equity in the boat (1/10th, I think). New boats fully maintained ready to "turn the key and go". That may be something that would suit you perfectly.
Bounty 35 still an old boat so there will still be plenty of work even though you think there will not be. Also I think it is a masthead rig and if it is the head sails are much bigger and harder to tack than 7/8 or 3/4 rig boat. This might be bad for wife or kids.
Sail one first!
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Bounty 35 still an old boat so there will still be plenty of work even though you think there will not be. Also I think it is a masthead rig and if it is the head sails are much bigger and harder to tack than 7/8 or 3/4 rig boat. This might be bad for wife or kids.
Sail one first!
Yes the Bounty 35 is a headsail driven boat and would be a handful for a solo sailor [wife and kids mean your really sailing solo]. Lovely boat and I would certainly own one but the loads might be a bit much for an old bloke.
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Serb did you bleed the fuel system first? It won't start unless you bleed it first. Look it up on YouTube and you should find plenty of information on it.Hope you get it running.
Yes I have done that. It looks like compression issues. I cleaned the pump and now is pumping like a new. Anyways will pull the engine out rebuild with new parts paint it and enjoy sailing my 26 footer. like many here mentioned, bigger boat bigger headache and expenses are huge for a bigger boat. It's just not worth it unless you live on the boat.
will send a picture once the engine is done.
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Serb did you bleed the fuel system first? It won't start unless you bleed it first. Look it up on YouTube and you should find plenty of information on it.Hope you get it running.
Yes I have done that. It looks like compression issues. I cleaned the pump and now is pumping like a new. Anyways will pull the engine out rebuild with new parts paint it and enjoy sailing my 26 footer. like many here mentioned, bigger boat bigger headache and expenses are huge for a bigger boat. It's just not worth it unless you live on the boat.
will send a picture once the engine is done.
Mate, if that is your decision then I applaud it, get the beast running sweetly and then go and sail the crap out of it, you will learn sooo much from it and if you feel the need for something larger later you will have the skills required.
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Serb did you bleed the fuel system first? It won't start unless you bleed it first. Look it up on YouTube and you should find plenty of information on it.Hope you get it running.
Yes I have done that. It looks like compression issues. I cleaned the pump and now is pumping like a new. Anyways will pull the engine out rebuild with new parts paint it and enjoy sailing my 26 footer. like many here mentioned, bigger boat bigger headache and expenses are huge for a bigger boat. It's just not worth it unless you live on the boat.
will send a picture once the engine is done.
Mate, if that is your decision then I applaud it, get the beast running sweetly and then go and sail the crap out of it, you will learn sooo much from it and if you feel the need for something larger later you will have the skills required.
That is my thoughts too. All my friends got very nice boats but they didn't learned on them. Step by step and will get there. I am very lucky because I am racing with very experienced people and I will learn quickly. They have a lot of patience and they are all champions!
As soon as my YSE8 beast is back in business I will be back sailing, it will be many questions for you but till then stay safe my dear fellow sailors.
Take care!
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Serb did you bleed the fuel system first? It won't start unless you bleed it first. Look it up on YouTube and you should find plenty of information on it.Hope you get it running.
Yes I have done that. It looks like compression issues. I cleaned the pump and now is pumping like a new. Anyways will pull the engine out rebuild with new parts paint it and enjoy sailing my 26 footer. like many here mentioned, bigger boat bigger headache and expenses are huge for a bigger boat. It's just not worth it unless you live on the boat.
will send a picture once the engine is done.
It's been done
look at the parts all cleaned and fixed but still no start. such a shame. But Mechsnic will make it strong again..
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Serb did you bleed the fuel system first? It won't start unless you bleed it first. Look it up on YouTube and you should find plenty of information on it.Hope you get it running.
Yes I have done that. It looks like compression issues. I cleaned the pump and now is pumping like a new. Anyways will pull the engine out rebuild with new parts paint it and enjoy sailing my 26 footer. like many here mentioned, bigger boat bigger headache and expenses are huge for a bigger boat. It's just not worth it unless you live on the boat.
will send a picture once the engine is done.
Mate, if that is your decision then I applaud it, get the beast running sweetly and then go and sail the crap out of it, you will learn sooo much from it and if you feel the need for something larger later you will have the skills required.
While engine is on the table in pieces and getting rebuilt, I have painted the engine bay with bilgecote and installed the lights. 20 days to go! Just can't wait to get the engine in and get confident to sail like captain Cook.
