Hey! C'mon the Leyland P76 was a great car!! I agree about the Camira though

I agree with Paul, if you make that the plug then you get a nice gelcoat finish on the finished product. It doesn't matter what the bottom looks like. Sounds like you've already got a market for them so you could recoup the cost of making a mould from it.

It looks too good not to make a mould from it. It could be the new seat for the all new "Aussie Promo"!!

hills said...

Hey! C'mon the Leyland P76 was a great car!! I agree about the Camira though

The selling point was the boot size for the P76, you could fit a 44 gallon (200 litre) drum in it.
OK then but how did you get a full drum out?
And a mate of mine had a Camira, the steering colum came apart one day while driving.

Gizmo said...


The selling point was the boot size for the P76, you could fit a 44 gallon (200 litre) drum in it.
OK then but how did you get a full drum out?

I thought the selling point was you could get a full keg into it and you get it out by the schooner!

Ah love the car thread.
there are 2 Lefroy minis in Northern NSW that the owner /builder is considering selling, bothe with the "explorer " glass seats.
I will try to find him as he has become a bit of a Hermit, and see if he can get the yachts to cross the RIO GRANDE and head your way
WAYNE , Can you hear me, Your email is bouncing

I didn't think weight would be much of an problem, you weigh more you use a larger sail- does weight make a difference ?

hills said...

Gizmo said...


The selling point was the boot size for the P76, you could fit a 44 gallon (200 litre) drum in it.
OK then but how did you get a full drum out?

I thought the selling point was you could get a full keg into it and you get it out by the schooner!

I think a full 44 would sink his schooner.

landyacht said...
Crikey , I didnt realize stick people built landyachts.How am I supposed to catch you

After some not so serious thought I came to the conclusion that 'the more you weigh-the larger sail you can use...therefore you have an unfair advantage and should run some front end ballast to make things equal.(I've already been told I'm using female logic. My reply-with females there is no logic)

iand said...

landyacht said...

After some not so serious thought I came to the conclusion that 'the more you weigh-the larger sail you can use...therefore you have an unfair advantage and should run some front end ballast to make things equal.(I've already been told I'm using female logic. My reply-with females there is no logic)

Logic behind ankle biter was to lower centre of gravity, make a mast step that flexes ,have stiffer mast and MORE sail area, to make it flex more, creating more down force, and putting a lighter pilot in the seat.
Result was faster, more stable, more tyre wear, more fun
Have a look at one of the french SEAGULL sites and find some photos of a LUDIC sailing in a strong wind .They may be silly little yachts, but they can absolutely smoke it when you push them hard

landyacht said...

designed to carry 2 44's.

Damn near make it across to Mauritius with that much water. And a damn fine looking yacht as well. Who is the designer anyway and from whence does he or she hail? That is what kind of waters was it designed for?

Beautiful. I have never seen a 30+' dinghy before let alone one with a schooner rig. I have heard the name Phil Bolger before though, but I am not familiar with his designs.

Some years ago I had a magnificent yacht being a 23' fibreglass production trailer sailor which was a Windrush Wildfire. It was originally designed as a 21 footer in plywood by a Perth gentleman by the name of McFarlane or McFarland if memory serves. It was adopted by Windrush Yachts and extended to 23' and I have been told only 57 were produced. There is more to it but suffice it to say, when I rang a broker in Perth to enquire about their value prior to selling mine he related to me that he knew an owner of an original 21' ply version who would sail it from Freeo to Rotty, single handed, almost every weekend. They have a cockpit that would be the ENVY of most 40 footers.

I got caught out one day with two teenage crew, experienced, but not on my yacht, when it blew up from 10 knots downwind to the race course to a gusty 25 knot headwind to get home. While all the other heavier displacement and better crewed yachts were bailing up and shortening down I carried full canvas, kept the crew on the rail with feet under the hiking straps and squeezed her up during the gusts. We got wet but we got home before the rest. Brilliant yachts with a bouyant dagger board that allows reduction of draught from 5'6" to 1'6" in an instant. Especially when you bottom out and snap it off.[}:)] but still and .

Her name was "Pancho". Adios Amigos Cisco.

Original windsurfer sail (approx 28 year old)

This is my attempt at learning to sew. My daughter and I totally unpicked a old windsurfer sail and I layed out the new shape while maximizing the area and then had a go at sewing it together. Unfortunately the area came out a bit large- 4.4 sq metre
Ian

Peter-My main concern regards size is more to do with being over powered
but-the main point of the exercise was to see if I could do my own sails instead of modifying sails to suit, that's why the old sail was broken down to it's individual components and sewn together in a totally different shape. Construction wise I'm happy with the sail and will be pricing some new dacron, in the mean time I'll continue playing with some of the other old sails I have.
Ian

iand said...

Original windsurfer sail (approx 28 year old)

This is my attempt at learning to sew. My daughter and I totally unpicked a old windsurfer sail and I layed out the new shape while maximizing the area and then had a go at sewing it together. Unfortunately the area came out a bit large- 4.4 sq metre
Ian

You guys (and Girls) are making me look like an amateur again
4.4 will be fine if the beach is a bit soft or you are carrying a cargo of sausages and beer
With a larger sail on a stiff mast you need to have a chassis that will allow the rig to lay off the wind rather than the "a" framed type rig. With an Aframed rig you would want a mast that is a bit more flexible at the top

After pulling the mould I couldn't wait to build a seat so I bolted the plug to the landyacht. The landyacht as pictured weighted 32 kg without mast, will be able to reduced weight dramatically with a seat not the plug.

WOW
all the curves in all the right places baby.
I do believe all your aches would disapear in the form fitting seat Cisco