try this with a pole in yahand

and I thought kop was just trolling for an argument
will see you on the kite forum again next season kop

Fig jam only if they all could do a figure 8 like you ...........thats what im talking
about why you come out that barrel ......back in there

Fig jam you actually line up when its bombing 3 to 8 foot and really behave at 10to 12 to 15 foot and understand the seriously heavyness and consequenses of fken around with short jyds and small waves between the sets. You do all the right things unlike that kook kiter (trick rider New .......? ) whom enters the surf for all the wrong reasons not haven even riden in real west coat waves of 3to 6 foot , or built up to it .... way out of his ability....then goes out droppen da kite right in front of your exit point, whilst your right in your rythem of riding 10 to 12 footers monsters the suns dropen quickly and once your on the inside your days all over .

Man i thought i was going to be killed, haven to take the whole kite kit out to survive or be killed ..........I flicked out of this mast plus shut down end section throwing the gear out to sea,,, to get the next 2 sets take me verticaly up and down 5m and in 1 m with me feet through the barrel trying to waterstart , i got it all back together just ......i would have probably been ok but all the gear would have been history

No one wants to lose gear get it all smashed up or even seriously injured .....injurys are no good doods.

So keep control of your hot air blader blurted

Two nights in a row on the fizz Kotp?

Just topping up from last night eh old mate?

king of the point said...

Fig jam only if they all could do a figure 8 like you ...........thats what im talking
about why you come out that barrel ......back in there

Fig jam you actually line up when its bombing 3 to 8 foot and really behave at 10to 12 to 15 foot and understand the seriously heavyness and consequenses of fken around with short jyds and small waves between the sets. You do all the right things unlike that kook kiter (trick rider New .......? ) whom enters the surf for all the wrong reasons not haven even riden in real west coat waves of 3to 6 foot , or built up to it .... way out of his ability....then goes out droppen da kite right in front of your exit point, whilst your right in your rythem of riding 10 to 12 footers monsters the suns dropen quickly and once your on the inside your days all over .
Man i thought i was going to be killed, haven to take the whole kite kit out to survive or be killed ..........I flicked out of this mast plus shut down end section throwing the gear out to sea,,, to get the next 2 sets take me verticaly up and down 5m and in 1 m with me feet through the barrel trying to waterstart , i got it all back together just ......i would have probably been ok but all the gear would have been history

No one wants to lose gear get it all smashed up or even seriously injured .....injurys are no good doods.

So keep control of your hot air blader blurted

ilike it when you blow wind up my @&$$

king of the point said...

Fig jam only if they all could do a figure 8 like you ...........thats what im talking
about why you come out that barrel ......back in there

Fig jam you actually line up when its bombing 3 to 8 foot and really behave at 10to 12 to 15 foot and understand the seriously heavyness and consequenses of fken around with short jyds and small waves between the sets. You do all the right things unlike that kook kiter (trick rider New .......? ) whom enters the surf for all the wrong reasons not haven even riden in real west coat waves of 3to 6 foot , or built up to it .... way out of his ability....then goes out droppen da kite right in front of your exit point, whilst your right in your rythem of riding 10 to 12 footers monsters the suns dropen quickly and once your on the inside your days all over .

Man i thought i was going to be killed, haven to take the whole kite kit out to survive or be killed ..........I flicked out of this mast plus shut down end section throwing the gear out to sea,,, to get the next 2 sets take me verticaly up and down 5m and in 1 m with me feet through the barrel trying to waterstart , i got it all back together just ......i would have probably been ok but all the gear would have been history

No one wants to lose gear get it all smashed up or even seriously injured .....injurys are no good doods.

So keep control of your hot air blader blurted

can't say I have kited 10 to 12 foot but I bet the kiter in the line up with the kite down couldn't give a s#it if they messed up your rythem. Have you ever had a windsurfer washing through the linup effect your rythem

Joe Cron said...

Just occurred to me, for a kiter, a cut back is a functionally redundant maneuver.

Maybe so. ^^^
But cutbacks can extend your ride,
lengthen your ride.
Remember ...
Every good turn deserves another cutback.

Hungry bum.
I would go see a parade more often if the marching bands looked like that.
Nice sax

king of the point said...

Fig jam only if they all could do a figure 8 like you ...........thats what im talking
about why you come out that barrel ......back in there

Fig jam you actually line up when its bombing 3 to 8 foot and really behave at 10to 12 to 15 foot and understand the seriously heavyness and consequenses of fken around with short jyds and small waves between the sets. You do all the right things unlike that kook kiter (trick rider New .......? ) whom enters the surf for all the wrong reasons not haven even riden in real west coat waves of 3to 6 foot , or built up to it .... way out of his ability....then goes out droppen da kite right in front of your exit point, whilst your right in your rythem of riding 10 to 12 footers monsters the suns dropen quickly and once your on the inside your days all over .

Man i thought i was going to be killed, haven to take the whole kite kit out to survive or be killed ..........I flicked out of this mast plus shut down end section throwing the gear out to sea,,, to get the next 2 sets take me verticaly up and down 5m and in 1 m with me feet through the barrel trying to waterstart , i got it all back together just ......i would have probably been ok but all the gear would have been history

No one wants to lose gear get it all smashed up or even seriously injured .....injurys are no good doods.

So keep control of your hot air blader blurted

Joe Cron said...

Just occurred to me, for a kiter, a cut back is a functionally redundant maneuver.

For a surfer, the objective of a cutback, roundhouse, fig 8 or generic (like that? I do) is to get back to the power of the wave, in the pocket, below the crest. He needs that power to keep moving. Too far out on the face, he is not falling down the wave, off the back he drifts.

Now, our friend on the kite, well, he carries his power with him, his own 'pocket' if you like. Anytime he pleases, as long as he hasn't ridden under the kite or put it too far to the edge of the window, he dials in some power from the kite.

Others may disagree, I respect that, but the more I think about it, kiters can just blurt down the line, slapping lips, speeding up and slowing down as they please.

Yep surfers don't have a choice they have to get their power from the wave, we as kiters have a choice we can either use the power of the kite and "blurt down the line, slapping lips" or "get back to the power of the wave, in the pocket, below the crest."

I know what I prefer but hey each to their own.

waveslave said...

Joe Cron said...

Just occurred to me, for a kiter, a cut back is a functionally redundant maneuver.

Maybe so. ^^^
But cutbacks can extend your ride,
lengthen your ride.
Remember ...
Every good turn deserves another cutback.

Couldnt have said it better slave slayer been awhile since i seen you Are you slaying cut backs, as you used to, on your retro 1980s 90s fish tailed home made designed windsurf gear.?

What an insperation .....if you only brought half your inivation to kiting as you did to windsurfing look out kiters you should be cutting back with style.

Meantime i dont think you have boosted as high as you used to on the windsurfer?.
No **** you used to go end over end forward loop 20 to 30 foot for years.

gazza said...
and I bet hes not thinking i had better get these death trap lines wrapped up asap before I kill someone.

More than likely they will drift with 20m of lines right through the wave for 10mins till they can try and relaunch, causing chaos along the way

your sounding a bit like slave there gazza with all the death trap lines.
Plus I wouldn't worry about a kite sitting in the lineup for 10min trying to relaunch when it's 10 to 12 foot. If it hasn't relauched before the first wave hits it the kite will be washed inside with the rider attached or not

Hey Elmo,

Thanks man, just waste 1 hour watching that vid and the other links.

It was good but I should be workin.

Thanks.
Rich

gazza said...

TurtleHunter said...


can't say I have kited 10 to 12 foot but I bet the kiter in the line up with the kite down couldn't give a s#it if they messed up your rythem. Have you ever had a windsurfer washing through the linup effect your rythem

No and I bet hes not thinking i had better get these death trap lines wrapped up asap before I kill someone.

More than likely they will drift with 20m of lines right through the wave for 10mins till they can try and relaunch, causing chaos along the way

So no he shoudnt give a **** about the windsurfers rhythm more about his
safety

Gazza your right the safety of all on the water is priority for all water sports....(you lose consiousness of something and its all over red rover you end up with water on the lungs or brain damage .but it was the wildest challenge there i was lock in to the max......kegged in......like a run away bull on the loose from pamplona and theres med strings 100m down the line right through the line up.He was goen out with the kite down ..........fk knows how that eventually poped up.........he at this point was being dragged forward through and just over the close out sections at 10 foot.
Every thing was in slow motion ,i could not do any thing untill the beast released me from its frothing fire ball, meantime the bladder blurter and tampon strings were right infront of my exit if the beast released me just a bit i could avoid a real collision.... board body, kite body ,bloody bodies, mumifiedes bodies all wrapped up in tampon string
............as it was a final desperate lung and pump shot me forward over the lip and 10feet up in the air outwards and down the line up i had to throw the gear away to save a huge injury crash at max speed.

The gear missed him and the tampon line... but ****en give me the worst freak out ......

I scramble to get my gear organised and out of the lair of the next set of fire breathing dragons.
For that you will sux you donky.
Beer WASHED the memory but i get flash backs[}:)]
Do you call this KITE MERES Because i fk do

Even tho KOTP has been on a nightly, out of control rant I kinda understand.
I started as a wavesailor (even did some summers in gero), then due to lack of wind in SA, started kiting.
All for it's own, if it's dribbly onshores I kite, but for those 35knt days it's a poleboard for sure.

Living in gero can play tricks on the mind (so can to much cray fish and locally grown pot) but too many kooky euros or over cocky Aussies can also make your blood boil.

1 bad experience has obviously tipped the scale.
I know I've shook my head at what both kite mates and PB mates have done on the water.

Enjoy lads.