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tatkins

QLD

344 posts

tatkins

QLD, 344 posts

12 May 2010 4:31pm

~~http://www.kitegearboxx.com/home/36-products-a-decals/25-kitelife-products/50-kitelife~~

Has anyone had any experience with this?

toddws

469 posts

toddws

WA, 469 posts

12 May 2010 4:34pm

Yeah i was thinking same thing, they also do a line protector spray, and gearwash cleaner, saw an ad a month or so ago in kiteworld, would appreciate any feedback also.

GalahOnTheBay

NSW

4188 posts

GalahOnTheBay

NSW, 4188 posts

12 May 2010 7:34pm

If it sounds to good to be true, it usually is...

Unless this has been around for a while it will be very difficult to prove it actually does anything, especially given that most kiters change gear well before it dies of natural causes (sun exposure), and it is usually due to trauma (waves, trees) or upgrades.

ApatheticEnd

995 posts

ApatheticEnd

WA, 995 posts

19 May 2010 6:06am

Send me a free sample and i'll do a complete writeup.

toddws

469 posts

toddws

WA, 469 posts

19 May 2010 10:45am

^^^^^
Any independant reviews on the products? As you say, you are a business so you are likely to big the gear up. Also any plans to get an Australian distributor/stockists? And having a big brand name doesn't make it any good, just want to know that it works.

getfunky

4485 posts

getfunky

WA, 4485 posts

19 May 2010 11:32am

Seems like a good idea to me - speshly for winter wet kite pack aways.

Price seems very reasonable and worth a punt.

Any shops locally want to give it a shake? Please post here if you do.

EDIT: How much material can one bottle cover? If you have 12m, 9m and 7m kites - how many bottles are needed?

Gorgo

VIC

5124 posts

Gorgo

VIC, 5124 posts

19 May 2010 1:48pm

KGBswag said...
...Paragliders and ... have been using a very similar product for years, so why not kiters?
...

That is not correct. No paraglider pilots put stuff on their wings. Only the very new and the very inexperienced think about doing it.

The consensus view is that you do more damage to a paraglider from over handlnig it by spraying and wiping and all that stuff. The manufacturer's instructions are always to clean stains off the wing with a damp cloth and neutral soap.

The few people who used protectants in the past found that the wing became too attactive to dust and ended up much more grotty. It's much better to be caerful not to get yuor wing dirty in the first place.

Some motorised hang glider pilots have been known to spray their wings just prior to sale to enhance the colours. People are warned to be on the lookout for old wings with bright colours.

Having said that, the main thing that ages my kites is mechanical damage due to physical wear and tear. If a spray on coating would help with that I might be interested.

Addikt

553 posts

Addikt

WA, 553 posts

19 May 2010 4:49pm

I have always wondered what they treat the new kites with when they leave the factory or maybe they treat the fabric before they cut it but you can smell something, that strong treatment spray "smell"

you get when you unwrap your new kite for the first time.

They must treat the fabric with a type of textile spray after they have produced the facbric.

Anyone involved in PET/ PETE fabrication

dusta

2940 posts

dusta

WA, 2940 posts

19 May 2010 6:18pm

KGBswag said...
If It had DaKine on the bottle would that make you trust it more?

no it wouldn't. If you got Megan Gale or Miranda Ker to deliver it for me to my doorstep i'll buy a shipping container worth of the stuff

ApatheticEnd

995 posts

ApatheticEnd

WA, 995 posts

19 May 2010 6:39pm

KGBswag said...

ApatheticEnd said...

Send me a free sample and i'll do a complete writeup.

Would love to but, We are a business after all, Who are you?

I'm an independent reviewer......

I'm nobody special but if you want everyone to see how awesome this product is, give it to someone with nothing to benefit and have them evaluate it. I'm not doubting you product, or saying that it will be the greatest thing. But I'd give it an honest shot and write it up. If you give it to a pro or high profile amatuer, there is always going to be doubt about what they are getting out of it. Someone is always going to use the P word!

Actually, people usually get paid for doing independent review but i'm happy to try it out to settle the seabreeze conjecture.

TurtleHunter

1675 posts

TurtleHunter

WA, 1675 posts

20 May 2010 1:36pm

So does this stuff need to be applied as often as sunscreen and how many applications do you get out of a bottle.
Maybe you can do half you kite and half your lines so we can see the difference apatheticend.
Sorry I see your in Perth so your probably not using your kite for a few months.
We can give it plenty of use in Exmouth over the freezing winter haha.

Sir V

QLD

490 posts

Sir V

QLD, 490 posts

20 May 2010 3:39pm

Well...

I'm taking one for the team.

I've just bought the product a few seconds ago. A full review will be posted here.. how long to arrive, packaging, quantity, how it applies... etc. I will supply photos of before and after even though 2 of my kites are quite new.

I have however one of the 2009 SB12M IDS with a manly black cannopy that has become dull from use. Nothing strange, just a little dull and grey'ish. The lines of the IDS 2009 have also faded and frayed more than I expect them to. I have spoken to one of the local retailers and was told 'it's normal'. No, I don't think so.. the IDS line quality has left a little to be desired compared to other year's gear.

So I am going to test the line treatment on those lines and see how this affects or repairs the use. I will post dated photos of the treatment - also so I can claim any damage that may occur as cause of the treatment

(covering my bases).

Wait and see team...

V

toddws

469 posts

toddws

WA, 469 posts

20 May 2010 4:05pm

Well done Sir V
Yeah know what you mean about the 09 switchblade lines, got a brand spanking new 12M in august and a 9m 2010 in september and with about the same amount of use the 09 looks 3 seasons old, esp the lines, while the 2010 looks still new.
Look forward to your review

Gorgo

VIC

5124 posts

Gorgo

VIC, 5124 posts

20 May 2010 8:20pm

KGBswag said...
....

You need to get some kite brands to endorse the product and/or recommend people use it.

getfunky

4485 posts

getfunky

WA, 4485 posts

20 May 2010 6:27pm

Seems like Cab middle seams may be just the ticket for this stuff.

Does it repel trees?

GalahOnTheBay

NSW

4188 posts

GalahOnTheBay

NSW, 4188 posts

21 May 2010 7:59pm

KGBswag you do realise that under Australian trade practices law there is such a thing as false and misleading advertising?

I refer you to point c of section 53:

~~http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/tpa1974149/s53.html~~

KGBswag said...

Guys this stuff really works we spent 2 years testing it!

KGBswag said...We are a new brand and kiting is a new sport so please get some and give it a try for yourselves.

2 year old brand new? So which one is it?

KGBswag said...If It had DaKine on the bottle would that make you trust it more?

No it would not, but either way it does not so why even ask the question?

KGBswag said...
Protecting your thousands of dollars worth of gear is well worth the low price of the product!

Worst sales spin ever. You could have at least included a set of steak knives.

KGBswag said...Why not make it last longer or restore your favourite old kite to like new condition? Yes It does that as well!

Fixes frapped out fabric - I think not. Certainly looks, feels and smells like snake oil to me!

KGBswag said...

Also what would we have to gain from selling something that doesn't work?

Ummm - money?

Spacemonkey!

2288 posts

Spacemonkey!

SA, 2288 posts

23 May 2010 5:08pm

^^^ Lol

My favourite part was

We saved your asses in ww2

EDIT: Quoted for future reference

I really don't even want to dignify your skeptic ass bs with a response but since some of you won't quit being asses here goes! You sound very frustrated so i am guessing that probably haven't been laid in 20 yrs with that attitude ummm maybe you have wait you do live in AU where the girls outnumber the men. I guess that gives some of you outnumbering uber proud males the sense of superiority BS! We saved your asses in ww2 now you wanna bag? piss off mate!
Some of you skeptic down under kiters really need to quit hating in general and get a life quit bagging on sh%t you no nothing about, in the states we these kind of people jealous haters, losers GET A LIFE. Bring something new to the table and then you can bag! Negative begets negative and I digress!
For those select few open minded individuals that actually had the sense to order some product it's in the post, please follow the directions on the bottles try it! and chime back please so as to sedate those weak minded fools amongst you! And right on for on for supporting a new kiting product you other douch bags f off !! LOSESSSSSSERRRS!
These negative daggy sods aren't representative of the cool set I met in my travels to your country, as well as the others I have met here and abroad!
So again shut the f up and piss off or come bring something new out! It's not as easy as it is to bag!!
It's okay tho come to SF bay and we can have this out on the water skeptic enet pussies!

fattso

VIC

170 posts

fattso

VIC, 170 posts

23 May 2010 6:06pm

way to promote kgbs.

I reckon you've convinced all of oz with your last response.
Of what, however, I am not so sure.

Looks like my kite will be staying dirty though.

ApatheticEnd

995 posts

ApatheticEnd

WA, 995 posts

23 May 2010 5:40pm

Best spastic retard rant ever!

The WW2 bit was indeed my fav as well.

BTW, I'm Canadian and we beat your ass in the war of 1812. We set your president's house on fire and they had to repaint it white to cover all the smoke damage. So if I come round to Amurica selling snake oil, I expect you to buy it with a smile.

Priceless.

stamp

QLD

2797 posts

stamp

QLD, 2797 posts

23 May 2010 11:01pm

great customer relations and marketing there mate. i'm sure you'll do really well

Charl dv

2485 posts

Charl dv

WA, 2485 posts

23 May 2010 9:36pm

anyone that got further than kindergarten in life should know you can't use a bit of liquid to "restore a sail to like new", you cant repair frayed fabric, you cant unstretch the sails etc.

also you saved us in WW2?

darylkiter

42 posts

darylkiter

WA, 42 posts

23 May 2010 9:59pm

KGBswag said...

now the brainiums are spinning! So instead of great glad to so there is an option. i get smashed. Then when i retort, I get smashed again! Open your domes up and quit the hating go get laid. oh yee of little faith. DONE PEACE OUT SURF MORE F*CK MORE< AND BE HAPPY UV SCORCHED DU RANTAERS >QUOTE THIS **** YOU AShHOLE!!!!!!!

Tell ya who just got shagged mate?

Ill break your suspense - YOU!!!

LOL's best thread and how to kill a product all in one

djdojo

VIC

1614 posts

djdojo

VIC, 1614 posts

24 May 2010 12:04am

KGBswag said...
This is a molecular level cross-linked polymer coating that wont shine up your kite but will restore an old worn out kite by strengthening the fibers at the molecular level.

So, can I make fibres with this stuff? Or just strengthen existing but damaged fibres? If I squirt some out into a sheet and let it dry will it be as strong as dacron? Can I make a whole kite from it? If not, how can it possibly strengthen what's already there?

KGBswag said...
The product will not damage your gear just like sunscreen on your skin won't damage you.

Hmmm, a great many threads on this forum have found a lot of research showing that some chemicals in some sunscreens will indeed damage you and your environment.

I'm not anti-protectant, and I don't think anyone is, but I sure am anti-bullsh!t. Please, think before writing.

sir ROWDY

5378 posts

sir ROWDY

WA, 5378 posts

23 May 2010 10:07pm

Surely this is a troll... If not, it's gotta be the stupidest poster (and pimp) in the history of forums.

djdojo

VIC

1614 posts

djdojo

VIC, 1614 posts

24 May 2010 12:15am

sir ROWDY said...

Surely this is a troll... If not, it's gotta be the stupidest poster (and pimp) in the history of forums.

But don't you understand, they saved us in WW2 so we have to believe their spiels and buy their stuff. If we don't, not only will our kite fibres unravel, but time itself could unravel backwards and fork off into a parallel universe in which the Americans don't save us, especially the ones who weren't born yet, and we'll never have the benefits of intramolecular fibre repair goop.

Buy the goop or else your kite, and our relatively free country could all disappear in a flash.

sir ROWDY

5378 posts

sir ROWDY

WA, 5378 posts

23 May 2010 10:30pm

^^^ There it is people, time has already started to unravel and the structure of space and time as we know it is starting to diverge in mysterious new ways. Dojo has started posting with sarcasm... Dear god what is next

blekk

11 posts

blekk

11 posts

23 May 2010 11:13pm

djdojo said...

KGBswag said...
This is a molecular level cross-linked polymer coating that wont shine up your kite but will restore an old worn out kite by strengthening the fibers at the molecular level.

So, can I make fibres with this stuff? Or just strengthen existing but damaged fibres? If I squirt some out into a sheet and let it dry will it be as strong as dacron? Can I make a whole kite from it? If not, how can it possibly strengthen what's already there?

It would be a type of elastomeric polymer spray. As started these are multiple cross-linked polymers that would work by bonding to the surface of the kite and in between the nylon/dacron fibres to help relieve the stress/stretch on the material itself from the constant changing shape of the kite, dare I say may even help prevent rips/tears; Think of it as a spray on rubber band to help protect the material.

BTW I have no affiliation with the product and have not tried it (yet), but do see the usefulness of a product such as this one.

toddws

469 posts

toddws

WA, 469 posts

23 May 2010 11:46pm

What started out as a question about a product, and its ability to enhance our kiting experience has been hijacked by a tirade of abuse.
Buts its not us this time

. its actually the vendor of the product, WTF!!!
Talk about alienating a potential customer base.
Maybe its some new marketing strategy, and we're just too dumb to realise.
I think its good to have a heathly degree of mistrust, stops you getting it in the arse, generally, but is this how you help put potential customers at ease?
All we were looking for was some independant reviews on the products, and instead of getting some infomation we get presented with this...

now the brainiums are spinning! So instead of great glad to so there is an option. i get smashed. Then when i retort, I get smashed again! Open your domes up and quit the hating go get laid. oh yee of little faith. DONE PEACE OUT SURF MORE F*CK MORE< AND BE HAPPY UV SCORCHED DU RANTAERS >QUOTE THIS **** YOU AShHOLE!!!!!!!

why would I want to give this guy one of my hard earned dollars.

dusta

2940 posts

dusta

WA, 2940 posts

24 May 2010 10:08am

stupid seppo that thinks the good old US of A is superior to every1 else . I will laugh pretty hard when china cripples the US . And the only reason the USA "won" the war was by shear numbers and wearing down the germans/japs . Not through skill or anything important like that .

TurtleHunter

1675 posts

TurtleHunter

WA, 1675 posts

24 May 2010 10:12am

I think you will have to finish this thread SirV
And tatkins is that the answer you were looking for?

Sir V said...

Well...

(covering my bases).

Wait and see team...

V

tatkins

QLD

344 posts

tatkins

QLD, 344 posts

24 May 2010 2:30pm

TurtleHunter said...

I think you will have to finish this thread SirV
And tatkins is that the answer you were looking for?

I have certainly had a good laugh...

Looking forward to SirV's review (although i think we've already made up our minds

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