Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..Flying Dutchman said..FormulaNova said..
The pandemic is over, mainly because of vaccines and the protection they have give us ALL.
Thank you pharma for the protection of the virus that escaped the lab.
You have said before that you are not a conspiracy theorist. Is that still the case?
If so, then I have to assume that you think the virus that escaped from a lab was something that just happened.
It's so lazy to label anyone that doesn't share your view a conspiracy theorist. You're digging yourself a bigger hole denying the plausibility of a lab leak along with Remery.
www.wsj.com/articles/where-did-covid-come-from-new-evidence-lab-leak-hypothesis-78be1c39
Select to expand quotemyscreenname said..
Covid 19 is so 2019
What does anyone gain from re-living the past? Tons of interesting stuff going on in 2024. Pandemic is a well worn, old, boring, sad and broken record now. yawn!
Move on.
Ah yes, during Covid you were so harsh against anyone that didn't share your view and now we're at the other end, you just want to let it all go because you're probably embarrassed how hard you went against anyone who didn't bend over and get reamed by the authorities.
The lack of accountability by so many is amazing.
Select to expand quoteFlying Dutchman said..FormulaNova said..Flying Dutchman said..FormulaNova said..
The pandemic is over, mainly because of vaccines and the protection they have give us ALL.
Thank you pharma for the protection of the virus that escaped the lab.
You have said before that you are not a conspiracy theorist. Is that still the case?
If so, then I have to assume that you think the virus that escaped from a lab was something that just happened.
It's so lazy to label anyone that doesn't share your view a conspiracy theorist. You're digging yourself a bigger hole denying the plausibility of a lab leak along with Remery.
I agree. That's why I only really call them conspiracy theorists when I see that they jump at anything that seems to be against popular opinion or science, without any careful evaluation of things. If they just believed in one conspiracy I could understand that, but when they seem to believe in them all, without any real decent information, that's when they become conspiracy theorists.
In fact, I believed you when you claimed you weren't one, but the more I read on different things, the more I started to think you are one.
In your post from before, you are thanking 'Pharma' for the protection against the virus that escaped from the lab. Other than taking your comment literally, I don't know how to interpret it, as you haven't explained it. Is this one of the CT things? Don't take a stand so that no one can pull your agument apart?
Who is digging a hole for themself? That's the weak sort of argument that losers use so that they themselves don't have to form an argument for the contrary. I find myself confused when people use that one in real life and confused when other people fall for it. Weak.
P.S. I call BS on your reference to an article on the wall street journal. This has happened so many times on here where someone posts a link to an article that is on a paid website. I just don't believe you have a subscription to the wall street journal. Therefore you posting the link highly suggests that you haven't bothered looking at the link yourself, which then implies that you haven't bothered reading the text at all and have just reposted something someone else has sent you. Probably from the US, as seems to be the norm.
I will call out an exception though. If PM33 cites an article on Henry Makow, I would believe he has a subscription. It fits.
Select to expand quoteFlying Dutchman said..myscreenname said..
Covid 19 is so 2019
What does anyone gain from re-living the past? Tons of interesting stuff going on in 2024. Pandemic is a well worn, old, boring, sad and broken record now. yawn!
Move on.
Ah yes, during Covid you were so harsh against anyone that didn't share your view and now we're at the other end, you just want to let it all go because you're probably embarrassed how hard you went against anyone who didn't bend over and get reamed by the authorities.
The lack of accountability by so many is amazing.
Yup. Bankrupted thousands. Mental health problems through the roof. Massive increase in excess deaths. Sown division throughout the world.
Let it go guys. Couldn't happen again??
Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..
I agree. That's why I only really call them conspiracy theorists when I see that they jump at anything that seems to be against popular opinion or science, without any careful evaluation of things.
Popular opinion is often a poor gauge of truth. And science is only valuable with an open mind not clouded by dogmatic views.
www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/the-covid-lab-leak-theory-is-dead
Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..
P.S. I call BS on your reference to an article on the wall street journal. This has happened so many times on here where someone posts a link to an article that is on a paid website. I just don't believe you have a subscription to the wall street journal.
Where the fark in my message did I say I have a subscription to WSJ? Do you just make shiit up?
You're so into science and evidence and "careful evaluation of things". Please show me the evidence and how you came to this conclusion.
Read the first few lines of the article. It clearly states that a lab leak is a plausible possibility. You don't need a subscription to see that.
Select to expand quoteFlying Dutchman said..FormulaNova said..
P.S. I call BS on your reference to an article on the wall street journal. This has happened so many times on here where someone posts a link to an article that is on a paid website. I just don't believe you have a subscription to the wall street journal.
Where the fark in my message did I say I have a subscription to WSJ? Do you just make shiit up?
You're so into science and evidence and "careful evaluation of things". Please show me the evidence I said I have a subscription and how you came to this conclusion.
Read the first few lines of the article. It clearly states that a lab leak is a plausible possibility. You don't need a subscription to see that.
Oh, that's worse. You go via a headline or the first few sentences without trying to understand 'why' or 'how'? How do you then judge the relative merit of an article or do you just cherry-pick articles that agree with what you want?
My mistake. I am sorry. I stupidly applied my own approach to what I thought you would do. Thank you for telling me you don't approach things the same way.
Consider this a full retraction. 'Flying Dutchman' did not require a subscription to the wall street journal and most likely made his judgement based on the first few lines of an article behind a paywall.
I cannot make the call on whether he thinks that the virus was natural and then leaked from a lab or whether it was manufactured in a lab and then released, as I cannot make assumptions about how far he has read of the three or four sentences that are available.
Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..
Oh, that's worse. You go via a headline or the first few sentences without trying to understand 'why' or 'how'? How do you then judge the relative merit of an article or do you just cherry-pick articles that agree with what you want?
My mistake. I am sorry. I stupidly applied my own approach to what I thought you would do. Thank you for telling me you don't approach things the same way.
Consider this a full retraction. 'Flying Dutchman' did not require a subscription to the wall street journal and most likely made his judgement based on the first few lines of an article behind a paywall.
I cannot make the call on whether he thinks that the virus was natural and then leaked from a lab or whether it was manufactured in a lab and then released, as I cannot make assumptions about how far he has read of the three or four sentences that are available.
Stop blabbering and show me evidence I said I had a subscription. You can't. You're a crap scientist.
Select to expand quotePcdefender said..
You need to first check the TGA website before attempting to cover up the harm caused by the shots.
From the TGA website. I have pointed this out to you previously but, because you are a fanatic, you continue to lie about adverse events.
Causality
Adverse event reports that we receive reflect the observations of the people submitting them.
Adverse events are suspected of being related to a medicine, but this relationship is usually not certain - the symptom may be related to an underlying illness or to other factors.
There might be no relationship between the adverse event and the medicine. The symptoms may instead have occurred coincidentally.
Sometimes the adverse event may have been caused by the other ingredients in the medicine such as an excipient ingredient.
Limitations of the data
We encourage people to report even if there is only a very small chance that a medicine was the cause. These reports are entered into the database without being confirmed or assessed to determine if they are caused by a medicine. Many of the reports are made voluntarily and may be incomplete or inaccurate.
The database does not contain all known information concerning a medicine. Therefore, an assessment of a product's safety cannot be made based on this information.
Select to expand quoteFlying Dutchman said..
It's so lazy to label anyone that doesn't share your view a conspiracy theorist. You're digging yourself a bigger hole denying the plausibility of a lab leak along with Remery.
www.wsj.com/articles/where-did-covid-come-from-new-evidence-lab-leak-hypothesis-78be1c39
academic.oup.com/ve/article/10/1/vead077/7503693
Select to expand quoteremery said..Flying Dutchman said..
It's so lazy to label anyone that doesn't share your view a conspiracy theorist. You're digging yourself a bigger hole denying the plausibility of a lab leak along with Remery.
www.wsj.com/articles/where-did-covid-come-from-new-evidence-lab-leak-hypothesis-78be1c39
academic.oup.com/ve/article/10/1/vead077/7503693
I'm not saying that Covid didn't come from bat soup, however you guys are saying lab leak is a conspiracy theory. Not sure why you would discount that possibility.
Select to expand quoteFlying Dutchman said..myscreenname said..
Covid 19 is so 2019
What does anyone gain from re-living the past? Tons of interesting stuff going on in 2024. Pandemic is a well worn, old, boring, sad and broken record now. yawn!
Move on.
Ah yes, during Covid you were so harsh against anyone that didn't share your view and now we're at the other end, you just want to let it all go because you're probably embarrassed how hard you went against anyone who didn't bend over and get reamed by the authorities.
The lack of accountability by so many is amazing.
The lack of care and love on here for those who have been harmed by them still amazes me.
Then there are others who still support the official nonsense of reactions are rare and the recommendation for more booster shots by our own TGA.
They like the TGA clearly do not operate on a frequency of love but of hate.
Hopefully they will become aware of their folly soon.
Select to expand quotePcdefender said..
The lack of care and love on here for those who have been harmed by them still amazes me.
Then there are others who still support the official nonsense of reactions are rare and the recommendation for more booster shots by our own TGA.
They like the TGA clearly do not operate on a frequency of love but of hate.
Hopefully they will become aware of their folly soon.
You and that Dutch guy are yesterdays men.
Did anyone see that picture of the Palestinian prisoner that was run over by a Israeli tank? Now that's something I wish I could unsee.
Select to expand quotemyscreenname said..Pcdefender said..
The lack of care and love on here for those who have been harmed by them still amazes me.
Then there are others who still support the official nonsense of reactions are rare and the recommendation for more booster shots by our own TGA.
They like the TGA clearly do not operate on a frequency of love but of hate.
Hopefully they will become aware of their folly soon.
You and that Dutch guy are yesterdays men.
Did anyone see that picture of the Palestinian prisoner that was run over by a Israeli tank? Now that's something I wish I could unsee.
The ones who were behind the C19 shots need to be held liable for the massive harm caused by them.
Do you go all the way to the bottom to the ones tasked with giving them?
The ones at the top should be on trial for their life.
Select to expand quotePcdefender said..
The ones who were behind the C19 shots need to be held liable for the massive harm caused by them.
Do you go all the way to the bottom to the ones tasked with giving them?
The ones at the top should be on trial for their life.
Have you considered writing to Derryn Hinch or maybe a citizen arrest?
Select to expand quotePcdefender said..
The lack of care and love on here for those who have been harmed by them still amazes me.
Where is the love and care for the 232,000 Americans alone, who died because they weren't vaccinated? Many would have died because of misinformation spread by Conspiracy Liars like you. Your shame should be great. You sponged off our medical system when the bone was sticking out of your leg. Some people even donated money to help you out in your time of need. How did you repay this generosity? By telling lies about our medical system.
"We used a simple method based on a nationally representative dataset to estimate the preventable deaths among unvaccinated individuals in the US from May 30, 2021 to September 3, 2022 adjusted for the effects of age and time. We estimated that at least 232,000 deaths could have been prevented among unvaccinated adults during the 15 months had they been vaccinated with at least a primary series."
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10123459/
Such a positive trait to keep going down the hate path - at least you seem to think so.
I have honestly lost count of the number of people i know who were harmed by the shots.
I do not know of any unvaccinated person who died of 'covid'.
Select to expand quoteremery said..Pcdefender said..
The lack of care and love on here for those who have been harmed by them still amazes me.
Where is the love and care for the 232,000 Americans alone, who died because they weren't vaccinated? Many would have died because of misinformation spread by Conspiracy Liars like you. Your shame should be great. You sponged off our medical system when the bone was sticking out of your leg. Some people even donated money to help you out in your time of need. How did you repay this generosity? By telling lies about our medical system.
"We used a simple method based on a nationally representative dataset to estimate the preventable deaths among unvaccinated individuals in the US from May 30, 2021 to September 3, 2022 adjusted for the effects of age and time. We estimated that at least 232,000 deaths could have been prevented among unvaccinated adults during the 15 months had they been vaccinated with at least a primary series."
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10123459/
Select to expand quotePcdefender said..
I have honestly lost count of the number of people i know who were harmed by the shots.
I do not know of any unvaccinated person who died of 'covid'.
Can you concieve of why both of your points could be true in Australia, in WA in particular, but not likely in places that had a more negative view of vaccination.
Hint: If the majority of the population are protected by vaccination, either themselves or others around them, then many less are expected to die from covid. At the same time, we do know there have been deaths and injuries caused by the vaccines.
Would you be so keen that you would want to know what the stats of unvaccinated deaths in a first world country like the USA?
Select to expand quotePcdefender said..
Such a positive trait to keep going down the hate path - at least you seem to think so.
I have honestly lost count of the number of people i know who were harmed by the shots.
I do not know of any unvaccinated person who died of 'covid'.
"honestly"... very amusing to hear a pathological liar like yourself use this word. I'm surprised you know how to spell it.
OK, I'll put medical research aside and go with an anecdote like you. I don't personally know anyone who is not vaccinated (probably because I generally hang around with scientifically educated people). None of them had serious side affects from the vaccination Maybe half have had COVID. None were seriously ill or even bothered to see a doctor.
Select to expand quoteremery said..Pcdefender said..
Such a positive trait to keep going down the hate path - at least you seem to think so.
I have honestly lost count of the number of people i know who were harmed by the shots.
I do not know of any unvaccinated person who died of 'covid'.
OK, I'll put medical research aside and go with an anecdote like you. I don't personally know anyone who is not vaccinated (probably because I generally hang around with scientifically educated people). None of them had serious side affects from the vaccination Maybe half have had COVID. None were seriously ill or even bothered to see a doctor.
Mardi gras people
HiV is not a crime
Select to expand quotemyscreenname said..
You and that Dutch guy are yesterday's men.
This possible lab leak has cost the lives of almost as many people as World War I. Including excess deaths, around 20 million have died.
You're going to be pissed when you realise you took the clot shots to fix a gain of function fuc up while lining the pockets of pharma at the possible expense of your health.
www.city-journal.org/article/new-documents-bolster-lab-leak-hypothesis
Select to expand quoteFlying Dutchman said..
This possible lab leak has cost the lives of almost as many people as World War I. Including excess deaths, around 20 million have died.
You're going to be pissed when you realise you took the clot shots to fix a gain of function fuc up while lining the pockets of pharma at the possible expense of your health.
www.city-journal.org/article/new-documents-bolster-lab-leak-hypothesis
The earth is rappidly becoming overpopulated. Humans are a successful species, but our population growth is unsustainable. It's inevitable that something will cull our numbers down.
I've got better things to be pissed about, than some shot I took in late 2020. Like that idiot yesterday, who put a scratch in my car and didn't leave a note. I would be ok with that person getting a covid shot tomorrow and dying, they would be doing the plannet a favour.
