Think you forgot a few things there.

Presumably if the masses weren't 'subdued' they would be anarchistic.

If religion hadn't have existed then civilisation as we know it wouldn't have been carried forward to each generation.

Like you, I like my ordered life with a mass moral concensus of what is right and wrong.

Presumably if there was nothing in 'power' and no centrally controlled education, social services, or other things I equate to civilisation and we all lived in an anarcy state where nobody pays taxes, every service you want you perform directly for yourself, nobody provides clean water let along puts chlorine and flouride in it, the airplane hasdn't been built because it takes governments developing military technology to advance the science, the peoples of Pakistan receive no aid from US military helicopters, then Petermac would be happy.


Maybe wake up and smell the roses rather than compalining about the thorns on them.

Sure life isn't perfect, but name a place and a time when life would have been better than it is right now.

that post is a joke right...?

did you write it sitting in the dark by light of the flashlight in case a boogeymonster or a scary man might come a knocking...?


here's a thought, maybe think beyond the box of what we have is better than nothing. maybe then we might have a chance of betterment for the human family and not have to rely on others for services we take for granted or on death machine military for our redundant economically driven technological advancements

there are many alternatives and possibilities for conscious evolution outside our systems of enslavement and indoctrination.

to see religion as the motor which has driven civilisation to where we are now, is only looking at the half of the picture you want to see.

looking objectively, it would appear to me that religion has been more responsible for holding civilisation and spiritual evolution back.

theDoctor said...
[there are many alternatives and possibilities for conscious evolution outside our systems of enslavement and indoctrination.

True possibilities or theortical dreams ?

If they are true and possible why haven't they happened ?

I am not saying I think what we have is better than any other another possibility, or that what we have today is what we will have tomorrow, it is just that I don't think it is so bad in comparrision to what could be (and what has been).

Given perfection can only be measured by having imperfect things I don't think my life and the world I live in is so bad. I am suggesting we are less enslaved and less indoctrinated than ever before, and that trend is continuing not going backwards.

Your arguements seem to be that the world is getting worse - that more and more nefarious things are happening - I am just of the opinion that the opposite is true.

And dreaming of a better world, free of enslavement and indoctrination is the basis on which most religions exist. I am not sure how you can hate religion as a system, but then dream for a better world and a better way of living.

Perhaps posting clips of inspirational good deeds, instead of telling me the world is doomed might make me understand the message more. Just saying we doomed were doomed doesn't add up, things seem to be getting better not worse.

NotWal said...

log man said...

Petermac33, she doesn't need to know about 9/11 being an inside job or fluoride being "a poison" or chemtrails or all the other conspiracist crap, and by the way what ever happened to UFO's Ghosts and talking to the spirits, is that just a bit out of fashion or something. There's proper science going everywhere, real science, fascinating, ground breaking science, backed up by years of work by others, peer reviewed and constantly tested not I read it on some nutjob internet site and it fits MY view of the world so therefore that's "evidence". And Cisco please , playing the innocent victim, and claiming gingerpoms response was shooting the messenger , rubbish, if you bring up a nonsense idea and it gets shot down in flames then maybe the the idea is nonsense. However I failed to add that I work for an international pharmaceutical company that has close dealings with the CIA and I was in new york on or about 9/11

The only one to raise that crap in this thread is you log man. This is a gratuitous personal attack. Take your argument to the appropriate thread.

The same goes for the rest of. Play the ball not the man.

Is this a gratuitous personal attack!!!!????PFFTT. And I thought I was crapping on about the responses to the girls speech

log man said...

NotWal said...

log man said...

Petermac33, she doesn't need to know about 9/11 being an inside job or fluoride being "a poison" or chemtrails or all the other conspiracist crap, and by the way what ever happened to UFO's Ghosts and talking to the spirits, is that just a bit out of fashion or something. There's proper science going everywhere, real science, fascinating, ground breaking science, backed up by years of work by others, peer reviewed and constantly tested not I read it on some nutjob internet site and it fits MY view of the world so therefore that's "evidence". And Cisco please , playing the innocent victim, and claiming gingerpoms response was shooting the messenger , rubbish, if you bring up a nonsense idea and it gets shot down in flames then maybe the the idea is nonsense. However I failed to add that I work for an international pharmaceutical company that has close dealings with the CIA and I was in new york on or about 9/11

The only one to raise that crap in this thread is you log man. This is a gratuitous personal attack. Take your argument to the appropriate thread.

The same goes for the rest of. Play the ball not the man.

Is this a gratuitous personal attack!!!!????PFFTT. And I thought I was crapping on about the responses to the girls speech

That's not a personal attack. THIS is a gratuitous personal attack:

theDoctor said...

that post is a joke right...?

did you write it sitting in the dark by light of the flashlight in case a boogeymonster or a scary man might come a knocking...?

Dextrous, dude, u need to warn people... now those images of animal abuse are in my mind!

http://www.henrymakow.com/000561.htm


lEDUCATION SERVES ITS PURPOSE


As you've gathered by now, a Humanities education is not intended to uplift or empower. The world is owned and run by a secretive banking cabal and their inbred allies. Its goal, in the words of Cecil Rhodes, is to "gradually absorb the wealth of the world." Naturally it must obscure this plan. They want to make students their tools. Professors who don't play the game are fired.

If you haven't noticed, universities are not places of invigorating inquiry and debate. They are stagnant backwaters that reek of moral compromise and disillusionment.

Mankind is groping in the dark. "All we know is the wind that blows," Thoreau


wrote. Our false confidence is based on material progress and technology, which Thoreau calls "improved means to unimproved ends."

"We have turned the brainless head of the goyim with progress," says the Protocols(XIII). With the exception of "material inventions" progress "like a fallacious idea, implies a departure from truth in all cases."

In other words, the Illuminists have infected mankind with the illusion that they are building a humanist utopia based on reason, when in fact they are constructing a neo feudal tyranny. This is the essence of "globalism" and the principle behind world events.

In conclusion, God is a Spirit or state of consciousness where ideals of justice goodness truth and love are self-evident. The Illuminists' first priority is to destroy Christianity and belief in God. They have to sever humanity from its metaphysical moorings in order to substitute a false reality conducive to their rule.

Humanities education today is a placebo, a substitute for a true education. It is a pretext for indoctrination, acceptance of which qualifies you for employment.

The world will not be saved by acts of God but acts of men representing God. Our duty is to take these ideals seriously in our personal lives and bring them into the world. The cost of rejecting God is to become slaves of very bad men


do the students/lecturers at uni debate the events of history?

no, they are told history.

look what happened to professor Kevin Barrett,he was fired from his job for questioning 911.

Meaningless drivel, sweeping generalisations and sheer tripe written by a tool and quoted here by someone who obviously hasn't a clue what happens in university.

So why exactly would I waste my life reading this trash Peter?

Wind... please!!

I'd even be happy for a mega fart right now.

maxm said...

So why exactly would I waste my life reading this trash Peter?

It was your decision, not his.

poor relative said...

petermac33 said...



to accept the reality would bring emotional pain, so the events are denied.

at last, finally found the answer as to why otherwise intelligent people believe in chemtrails, NWO, 911 insider job, poison in the water, today tonight etc etc etc

Whoopes I think the implication of petermac's quote is the exact opposite of what you understood it to be.

petermac33 said...

4:15

to think is to process information to form an opinion, but if we are not critical in processing this information are we really thinking or are we mindlessly accepting other people's opinions as truth.



6:08

the majority of students are put through the same brainwashing techniques in order to create a complacent labor force, working in the interests of large corporations and secretive government and worst of all they are completely unaware of it.



8:35

we will not accept anything at face value, we will ask questions and and we will demand answers and truth.

this is the type of girl mum said i should marry this is the type of girl dad said you should f@#$ her brains out then jump out the window and run like hell hard to imagine the pillow talk or pillow listen maybe why ball gags were invented

cisco said...

saltiest1 said...

this site is starting to piss me off.
like a record..... round and round and round.........

and..........??

He is getting dizzy! Perhaps he should hold Maxm's hand and they can work it out together

myusernam said...

she could have got her tits out

I must admit i was waiting for her to get her kit off

japie said...

He is getting dizzy! Perhaps he should hold Maxm's hand and they can work it out together

Nah, nothing to work out, japie. Just a low boredom tolerance threshhold is my excuse.